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The speakers discuss covert weapons causing no visible wounds, potentially used in Washington DC. Russian agents suspect Americans of using similar weapons. The CIA may be concealing this technology. Reasons for lack of public disclosure include operational risks. Urgent actions needed include implementing the Havana Act for DOD survivors. Bipartisan support is shown for helping victims and preventing future harm.

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Speaker 0 notes that the last administration was not transparent on the issue, but with the task force created, they have guided members within what they're cleared for. He asserts that they have encountered alien beings and recovered vehicles, with physical proof, and that he was partially cleared into those activities, having read intelligence reports from those programs. Speaker 1 reflects that online discourse about encounters and videos is plentiful, and asks if there is belief that the US government knows about alien beings coming to Earth. Speaker 0 responds that he doesn’t like to characterize where they came from, but they are definitely some kind of nonhuman sentience. He claims to have recovered vehicles and physical proof and says he had partial access to the data and to intelligence reports. He confirms seeing with his own eyes according to his account. Speaker 2 says NASA speaks for itself and claims transparency with data, and asks whether to believe David Crush or if he is lying, and where the evidence is. Speaker 0 asserts that members of the current administration are very aware of this reality and the current president is knowledgeable on the subject. He trusts the president’s leadership and believes the president has assembled a team; he says if Trump wants to be the greatest president and the most consequential leader in world history, he certainly has the knowledge, capabilities, and understanding of some of these sensitive government transparency issues. Speaker 3 says he has access and has had meetings with very smart people who believe there is something out there, and it makes sense there could be. He is not convinced himself. He asks if the person believes one, that he knows, and two, that he’s open to transparency on UAPs. Speaker 0 reiterates that the president is very well informed on the issue, and avoids revealing more than the president might want to reveal. He notes a role to cover this up through administrations. Speaker 1 asks about years of threat and testimony. Speaker 0 says he was physically threatened even before submitting his intelligence community inspector general report under the previous administration, and sought legal protection because of professional and personal fear. Speaker 1 asks about recovering pilots or remains and whether that was seen with his own eyes. Speaker 0 confirms there were pictures and says yes, there were remains. Speaker 1 questions whether the origin is from another planet or outer space, and if it is interdimensional, seeking clarification. Speaker 0 explains he has talked to many veterans of the program and keeps an open mind on origin. He acknowledges an extraterrestrial hypothesis but does not usually go there because he did not see the data, and he is not conversant in the high-confidence theories the US government has. He is not aware of any remains or signs of extraterrestrial beings or technology by his department. Speaker 3 says the US government knows, but asks whether other governments know. Speaker 0 says they know and have their own programs, and notes that two and a half years ago the US has been in an arms race with peer competitors like Russia and China, who have their own programs. He says he was able to view intelligence discussing adversarial programs and will leave it at that. Speaker 3 states that they’ve recovered things, and Speaker 0 confirms, noting there were bodies and physical remains. They discuss whether the motive or intent of the visitors was peaceful or not, acknowledging a mixed bag of activity and motive. They consider whether Earth’s genetic material could be a reason for visits, even jokingly proposing Jurassic Park as a tourist attraction for genetic material on Earth.

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We, along with other senators, will press the Secret Service for answers. The American people deserve transparency. Past conspiracy theories have proven true, so we must uncover the truth of this situation.

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The speakers discuss covert weapons causing no entry or exit wounds, making targets feel crazy. Attacks are reported in Washington, DC. Russian agents suspect Americans of using similar weapons. CIA may be covering up the technology. Reasons for withholding information include operational risks. Long-term solutions are needed, such as implementing the Havana Act.

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Speaker 0: Did you see evidence of collusion, coordination, conspiracy between Donald Trump and Russian state actors? Speaker 1: I saw information intelligence that was worthy of investigation by the bureau to determine whether or not such cooperation of conclusion was taking place. Speaker 0: That doesn't help us a lot. What was the nature of the information? Speaker 1: As I said, mister Gowdy, I think this committee now has access to the type of information that I'm alluding to here. It's classified and I'm happy to talk about it in classified session. Speaker 0: And that would have been directly between the candidate and Russian state actors? Speaker 1: That's not what I said. I'm not going to talk about any individual's But Speaker 0: that was my question.

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- Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss the possibility that a friend was murdered and suggest that both victims died suddenly from fast-moving cancer, a method they say the agency uses overseas to eliminate people. Speaker 1 admits he cannot prove this but notes the sudden deaths. - The conversation asserts that the US government has technology to infect people with fast-moving cancer and to perform cognitive and directed-energy warfare. Speaker 0 states the government has the technology to infect with fast-moving cancer and to do so absolutely. - In 1997, Speaker 1 describes a hearing on asymmetric threats where he chaired the research committee and focused on four threats: drones, cyberattacks, electromagnetic pulse (EMP), and cognitive warfare. He asserts that cognitive warfare is now being labeled by some as Havana syndrome and that directed-energy weapons are the underlying technology. - Speaker 2 recounts a recent homeland security hearing about foreign adversaries using direct weapons against US citizens, enabling incapacitation. He emphasizes the chilling nature of the briefing and criticizes current domestic leadership as foolish, corrupt, incompetent, and wicked. - Speaker 3 notes that up to 40% of the Air Force equipment budget in the 1990s was classified, making much of it “black.” He emphasizes that military and security research often precedes civilian medical science, and that servicemen were used in experiments without fully informed consent, referencing NK Ultra-era disclosures of thousands of service members used as subjects. - Speaker 4 discusses MKUltra, describing a Canadian experiment involving psychic driving with massive LSD doses, eye-tracking, and memory loss, funded by MKUltra and affecting civilians. He mentions Project Midnight Climax, where Johns were observed in brothels while subjected to LSD, and notes similar experiments by the British Royal Air Force and Army. The results of Midnight Climax are unknown, with no published after-action reports. - Speaker 3 adds that Secretary of Energy O’Leary stated under Clinton that over a half a million Americans had been used in human experiments over four decades without informed consent, including mind control, with no accountability. He argues that mind-control technology has advanced, and questions who should govern its use, given the lack of legal frameworks. - The discussion covers mind-effects research and the lack of treaties governing such technologies. They reference a European Parliament security and disarmament resolution (1999) addressing mind-effects and mind-control technology, and Russian Duma resolutions (2002) seeking similar safeguards. Zabigniew Brzezinski’s Between Two Ages is cited regarding electronically stroking the ionosphere to influence behavior over geographic areas, connecting it to HARP and other electromagnetic carriers capable of mass or individual influence. - Speaker 6 explains historical demonstrations of electronic mind control, starting with Jose Delgado’s remote manipulation of a charging bull using radio energy and electrodes, and notes later work showing noninvasive techniques to influence behavior using low-power magnetic fields. Speaker 7 reiterates Delgado’s animal studies and the potential for noninvasive methods to affect emotions and memory, with broader implications for humans. - Speaker 3 discusses the progression of research funded by DARPA and others toward higher-resolution control of brain activity, enabling controlled effects that override senses and create synthetic memories, raising questions about future justice and evidence. They describe European Parliament and NATO/US military interest in mind-control technologies and the absence of robust legal protections. - Speaker 9 presents advances in AI-enabled brain-reading and memory-altering devices, including mind-reading and emotion decoding, while Speaker 10 and Speaker 12 discuss privacy concerns, brain-data privacy laws (Colorado’s law adding brain data to privacy protections), and the availability of consumer devices that decode brainwaves. They warn that brain data can be misused by insurers, law enforcement, advertisers, and governments, with private companies often sharing data without clear disclosure. - The segment concludes with a note that devices can infer attention and thoughts, and that DARPA’s N3D program aims for noninvasive neuromodulation with implantable electrodes read/write capabilities. It references 1980s–1990s discussions of RF energy as a potential nonlethal mind-control technology, and a 1993 Johns Hopkins conference listing low-frequency weapons as attractive options.

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Speaker 1 says that the real information about the Epstein files has not come out and that “there were only four Republicans, four of us that’s really fought to get them released,” who “signed the discharge petition, went against the White House,” and were “threatened,” with Donald Trump calling him a traitor and saying his friends would be hurt. He questions why anyone would vote for Republicans if the administration doesn’t release all the information, framing it as a line in the sand for many people. Speaker 0 asks why they think the Epstein files are being hidden. Speaker 1 responds that it’s because the hidden information would protect “some of the most rich, powerful people,” arguing that Epstein was “definitely some sort of part of the intelligence state” who was “working with Israel” and with the “former prime minister of Israel.” He asserts that these are “the dirty parts of government and the powers that be that they don’t want the American people to know about.” He concludes that, sadly, he doesn’t think the files will come out. Speaker 0 presses on whether Trump is in the Epstein files. Speaker 1 speculates that if someone is “living under blackmail” or “living under threat” and told not to release information, that fear could influence actions. He suggests that someone might be warned by threats to prevent disclosure, giving a hypothetical example: after standing on a rally stage, you could be shot in the ear and warned that “next time we won’t miss,” or that the bullet might be for someone you care about. He says he is “speculating,” but notes he has “a strong enough reason to speculate like that.”

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Bob: Madame Ambassador, he says that this is something that has been in the planning stages for months. I understand you have been saying that you think it was spontaneous. Are we not on the same page here? Madame Ambassador: Well, Bob, let me tell you what we understand to be the assessment at present. First of all, very importantly, as you discussed with the president, there is an investigation that the United States government will launch led by the FBI that has begun. Bob: But they are not there. Madame Ambassador: They are not on the ground yet, but they already begun looking at all sorts of evidence of various sorts already available to them and to us, and they will get on the ground and continue the investigation. So we'll want to see the results of that investigation to draw any definitive conclusions. But based on the best information we have to date, what our assessment is as of the present is, in fact, what began spontaneously in Benghazi as a reaction to what transpired some hours earlier in Cairo, where, of course, as you know, there was a violent protest outside of our embassy sparked by this hateful video. But soon after that spontaneous protest began outside of our consulate in Benghazi, we believe that it looks like extremist elements, individuals joined in that effort with heavy weapons of the sort that are unfortunately readily now available in Libya post revolution, and that it spun from there into something much, much more violent. Bob: But you do not agree with him that this was something that had been plotted out We several months do Madame Ambassador: not have information at present that leads us to conclude that this was premeditated or preplanned.

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Speaker 0 asks how much USAID money went to the Wuhan Institute of Virology and Ralph Baric at the University of North Carolina to create weaponized coronaviruses. Speaker 1 rejects the implicit accusation and says they don't have the specific details of USAID funding at their fingertips. Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 1 is stating for certain that no USAID money went to the Wuhan Institute. Speaker 1 says they are happy to take questions from those in the audience who treat every person respectfully, and calls on someone else. Speaker 0 asks what Speaker 1 is denying. Speaker 0 says it's a non-denial denial.

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The discussion centers on concerns about the CIA’s influence over American media and how covert connections abroad could affect news domestically. Speaker 0 states a real concern: planted stories intended to serve a national purpose abroad could come back home and be circulated and believed in the United States, implying the CIA could manipulate the news in the U.S. by channeling it through a foreign country. The participants agree to examine this matter carefully. Speaker 1 raises a targeted question about individuals paid by the CIA contributing to major American journals, effectively asking whether there are CIA-paid contributors to prominent news outlets. Speaker 2 acknowledges that there are people who submit pieces to American journals and asks about whether any are paid by the CIA who are working for television networks, indicating a potential broader reach across media. Speaker 2 suggests that detailing “this kind of getting into the details” is something they would prefer to handle in an executive session, signaling a desire to limit public discussion at that stage. Speaker 3 provides historical context from CBS, noting that “the ships had been established” by the time the speaker became head of the news and public affairs operation in 1954, and that he was told to carry on with them, implying an established framework of CIA involvement or collaboration. Speaker 0 reiterates the need to evaluate the information and to “include any evidence of wrongdoing or any evidence of impropriety in our final report and make recommendations,” indicating a plan to compile findings and address possible abuses. The question is revisited: “Do you have any people being paid by the CIA who are contributing to the national news services, AP and UPI?” Speaker 2 again wants to move the discussion to an executive session, suggesting sensitivity about the specifics and possibly broader implications. Speaker 0 notes that the final report’s content or title “that remains to be decided,” leaving unresolved how the findings will be presented. Speaker 3 asserts that correspondents at the time “made use of the CIA agent chiefs of station and other members of the executive staff of CIA as sources of information which were useful in their assessments of world conditions,” indicating direct use of CIA personnel as information sources. The question is asked whether this practice continues today, and Speaker 3 responds affirmatively, though with caveat: due to revelations of the 1970s, a reporter “has got to be much more circumspect” and careful, or risk being looked at with considerable disfavor by the public. The speaker emphasizes the need for greater prudence in contemporary reporting in light of those revelations.

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These covert weapons leave no physical evidence, making it easy for adversaries to deny their use. The attacks are happening in Washington DC, with reports of similar weapons being used by Americans on Russians. This could be related to the CIA's efforts to conceal this technology.

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The speaker is part of a senate bipartisan investigation into an assassination attempt. According to the speaker, the Secret Service and FBI are dragging their feet and not providing requested documents, such as 302s and interview transcriptions. Documents that are provided are heavily redacted and delivered the day of the interview, making them unusable. The speaker believes this behavior is suspicious and fuels conspiracy theories. They claim releasing the body for cremation before autopsy or toxicology reports further drives suspicion and conspiracy theories.

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Speaker 0 (anonymous whistleblower): Government seems to be involved. They’re definitely some kind of nonhuman sentience. We’ve recovered the vehicles and have physical proof. I was partially cleared into those activities and had access to the data, reading intelligence reports resulting from those programs. Speaker 1: And with your own eyes you’ve seen it. So when people say this is kooky, there’s nothing to back it up… Speaker 2 (NASA): NASA is open and transparent with our data. Do you believe what Mister David Crush said, or is he lying? Whatever he said, where’s the evidence? Speaker 1: What do you say? Speaker 0: Members of this administration are very aware of this reality; the current president is very knowledgeable on this subject, and I trust his leadership. I think he’s assembled a cabinet, and I believe if Trump wants to be the greatest president and the most consequential leader in world history, he certainly has the knowledge, the capabilities, and understanding of some of these sensitive government transparency issues. Speaker 3: I have access and have spoken to people about it. I’ve had meetings with very smart, solid people who believe there is something out there. It makes sense there could be, but I’ve never been convinced, despite that. It’s not my thing. Speaker 1: So you think, one, he knows, and two, he’s open to transparency on UAPs? He’s very well informed on this issue. Leave it at that. I don’t want to get ahead of what the president might want to reveal. There’s been a role to cover this up through administrations. Speaker 0: I was physically threatened even before I sent in my intelligence community inspector general report under the previous administration. I had to seek legal protection because I was fearful professionally and personally. Speaker 1: And when you mention recovering pilots or remains nonhuman, that’s something you saw in the intelligence with your eyes? Speaker 0: Yes. There were pictures. It’s uncomfortable to discuss because it’s outside a normal worldview to understand there is a biological sentience that piloted these crafts and does not necessarily look 100% like us. Speaker 1: Were there pictures? Speaker 0: There were. Speaker 1: When I said from another planet or outer space, you said you don’t know where they’re from. Is it interdimensional? What are we talking about? Speaker 0: I’ve talked to a lot of graybeards about the origin. I leave an open mind. There is an extraterrestrial hypothesis, and they could be coming from elsewhere off Earth, but I didn’t see that data. I’m not conversant in the high-confidence theories the US government had. I’m not aware of any remains the department has of extraterrestrial beings or technology. Speaker 1: Do other governments know? Do they have programs? Speaker 0: They have their own programs. Two and a half years ago we’ve been in an arms race with peer competitors—Russia and China—and they have their own programs. I viewed a body of intelligence that discussed adversarial programs. Speaker 1: We’ve recovered things—bodies and physical remains. Was there a sense of their motive or whether it’s peaceful or not? We’ve seen a mixed bag of motives. Speaker 0: Activity and motive vary; the reasons for visiting are not fully understood. Could it be because we have interesting genetic material on Earth and we’re a Jurassic Park tourist attraction? There could be a myriad of reasons. Speaker 1: For other people coming forward, what do you say about intimidation? There are reports of harassment. There’s hope. Congress values whistleblower information now, and there’s appetite to do the right thing. There are things happening behind the scenes that the administration may discuss when ready. Speaker 1: We’ll follow every element. It’s fascinating. Speaker 0: Thanks for having me. Speaker 4: Sean Hannity here. Subscribe to Fox News YouTube pay.

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Speaker 0: There have been briefings to Congress that lead us to believe there is definitely an advanced technology out there that's not created by mankind. Speaker 1: About a decade ago I revealed on Joe Rogan that from my research in the Global Sun Admissions, aliens don’t come from distant star systems—they come interdimensionally. We have limited sight across our normal light spectrum and into other dimensions. I’ve spoken to high-level Pentagon people, CIA, scientists, physicists, who’ve said it’s an interdimensional invasion. The Bible and other ancient religions reference an unseen presence entering our universe, our domain, our dimension. There’s a clip of her on Fox News Friday night saying it’s interdimensional, but classified. A craft will show up 100 miles away instantly or fly Mach 20 and make a perfect turn—things that would crush solid stainless steel due to gravity. So we know they’re interdimensionally jumping. Now Trump talks about a big reveal; Obama says aliens are real. This isn’t just about UFOs—it's part of a broader awakening. It’s a distraction from Epstein, perhaps, but Trump said after reelection he’d disclose, and there’s a report due. Disclosure is happening on many fronts. We’re focused on UFOs and extraterrestrials, not taking away from exposing Epstein. There’s a lot of disclosure and crazy stuff happening on every front. Speaker 2: He (the other speaker) gave classified information and wasn’t supposed to. Speaker 1: Aliens are real? He gave classified information, whether they’re real or not. Speaker 3: Hours later, the president posted on Truth Social directing the release of government files related to alien and extraterrestrial life and UFOs. We bring in Florida Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna, chair of the Oversight Committee Task Force on declassification of federal secrets. She has said there is evidence of interdimensional beings that can operate through the time spaces we have. You told Joe Rogan you’ve viewed evidence of interdimensional beings on Earth that operate through time spaces—can you explain? Speaker 0: Yes. In classified briefings we’ve seen evidence suggesting advanced technology not created by mankind. There are videos, including one where a UAP deflects a Hellfire missile, taken from ISR footage off the coast of Yemen. Some physics defy explanation; not the only government to examine this. I view it through national security: are these technologies adversarial weapons or not? The federal government denying access to Congress is alarming in a free society. We expect the American people to decide after reviewing the evidence. Gates has said that if you’ve seen what we’ve seen, you’ll believe it too. Speaker 3: So you’re saying the Air Force has covered up UAP sightings? Is it because we or others have advanced technology, or because a foreign actor has abilities beyond our understanding? Speaker 0: Based on our interviews and testimony, we have reason to believe this tech is not created by mankind. It’s possible there are advanced US weapons denied access to the public. Unelected bureaucrats denying access to Congress is problematic, and there have been whistleblower threats and even deaths discussed in testimony. There’s bipartisan momentum toward disclosure, and we’ll continue to explore with the American people. President Obama’s remarks and Trump’s anticipated declassification are fueling this process. Speaker 1: The elite seek transcendence and to know the secrets of the universe; some are good, some bad, some mixed. Einstein and Planck suggest multiple dimensions; top scientists and billionaires are now speaking of a false hologram, artificial constraints, and gravity bleeding into this universe, with dark matter as a sign of something deeper. Some say we’re in a computer-generated projection, a thought or dream in a programmer’s mind. There’s talk of a sub-transmission zone below the third dimension fighting to ascend. Some believe humanity is at a fifth or sixth dimension intellectually, while a war rages to determine whether humanity will advance or be controlled by a breakaway civilization merging with machines. Google and others allegedly contemplated building a giant artificial system—a hive-mind AI connected to billions of people—that could predict and influence the future, potentially erasing individual free will. A counterstrike is underway to block such systems and promote genuine debate about humanity’s path, including addressing alleged pedophiles and “psychic vampires” in control of AI before humanity is harmed. The interdimensional force behind these developments is said to grant advanced knowledge to certain groups, sometimes described in religious terms as Satan. There’s more to come as disclosures unfold, including anticipated declassification next week when Trump allegedly releases UFO files. Speaker 3: We’ll be watching and covering it next week as disclosure unfolds.

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Kevin Shipp, a former CIA officer with seventeen years of service, recounts a sweeping, real-world portrait of MKUltra, directed-energy weapons, and a long-running program of secrecy and retaliation at the highest levels of the U.S. intelligence community. He describes how the CIA and a “shadow government” targeted him and his family after he investigated a serious vulnerability in U.S. embassies—namely, foreign nationals in visa sections could hack an unclassified computer to identify CIA cover officers and assets. When he alerted CIA management, a division chief warned him to drop the matter, and his report was allegedly deleted. State Department IG later corroborated the risk to agents and rebuked the CIA; Shipp says this encounter left a laser-like targeting on his back. Following these events, Shipp says he and his family were transferred to a secret U.S. base where they were given a house known to be contaminated. Within months, severe illness struck: his children’s throats swelled, headaches surged, and his wife developed dementia. He asserts the house contained black mold and leakage of mica toxin (a chemical weapon Saddam Hussein used, described as yellow rain). With the aid of an attorney, Shipp reported the mold and toxins and sought redress, obtaining a clearance for his attorney to work with CI documents. He alleges that, after he filed a personal injury suit against the rental company, the couple faced intensified retaliation: surveillance, bugging, and a wave of neurological symptoms across the family—severe headaches, insomnia, nosebleeds, and immune and neurological damage. He asserts his oldest son’s immune system was severely compromised and that the boy’s symptoms resembled AIDS or radiation exposure; the son later developed PTSD and deteriorated mentally, leading to concerns about his whereabouts in Florida. Shipp asserts that senior CIA and Department of State officials attempted to silence him, including an IG officer who later confessed that George Tenet and a senior CIA official (Buzzy Cronk-gard) were ordered to silence and destroy him to prevent public disclosure. He describes a culture of intimidation, including a rise in the escalation of surveillance and obstruction of access to credit and resources. He recounts a “secret base” where additional disturbing occurrences were reported, including an observed figure described by guards as a goat-headed, cloaked figure (Baphomet) witnessed by multiple witnesses, including the base commander’s son. Shipp asks whether this symbol signals demonic activity or a psyop and notes that the accounts were later corroborated in mainstream outlets as to the base’s existence. On MKUltra itself, Shipp defines it as a practice that used drugs (LSD, mescaline, etc.) without participants’ knowledge to monitor brain activity and to create programmable “born” super-soldiers or data mules who would forget the information they carried. He claims the program included sexual abuse, sleep deprivation, beatings, hypnosis, and other forms of torture to break and reprogram minds. He cites Victor Marchetti’s assertion that MKUltra did not end in 1973 and mentions Elizabeth Nichol-son’s studies asserting continuing existence. He argues that the Church Committee inquiry led to the destruction of thousands of documents and suppression of testimony, preventing reform. He cites Sirhan Sirhan as a potential later MKUltra subject and notes Carol Warner’s work with patients who had MKUltra exposure. Shipp connects these activities to broader patterns of power and secrecy: mass mind control through contractors (Lockheed Martin, SAIC, Booz Allen Hamilton) who hold CIA clearances, and a culture where tens of thousands of Americans are bound by secrecy agreements that preclude speaking out. He claims Lockheed Martin monitors mail and has access to the U.S. Post Office, suggesting pervasive surveillance and control. He connects Venezuela’s use of directed-energy weapons to the broader capabilities of the CIA and other national actors, arguing that these technologies go back twenty years or more and have spread to Russia, China, and elsewhere. He contends that Havana syndrome and related phenomena are related modalities and suggests the CIA’s upper echelons do not share the full truth with Congress, recalling Chuck Schumer’s warning about “six ways from Sunday” to retaliate if you cross the intelligence community. He argues for reform: dismantling or reforming the CIA and moving intelligence functions to accountable bodies so that oversight becomes feasible again. Throughout, Shipp emphasizes the human cost: his wife and children still suffer PTSD and neurological damage, his son remains missing, and he himself continues to face pressure and retaliation. He frames his narrative as a call to expose the abuses of secrecy, advocate for accountability, and awaken the public to the alleged realities of MKUltra-era and post-era mind-control capabilities.

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These covert weapons leave no trace, making it easy for adversaries to deny their use. They cause targets to feel crazy with no visible wounds. Attacks are reported in Washington DC, with suspicions of Americans using similar weapons on Russians. This could be linked to the CIA's mission to conceal such technology.

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The transcript outlines a rapid advance of neuroscience and neurotechnology as potential weapons and the accompanying privacy, security, and societal risks. Key points include: - The novelty and viability of neuroscience as a weapon: nanoparticulate agents and aerosolizable nanomaterials could be breathed in to disrupt blood flow or neural networks, and nanomaterials could enable electrodes to enter the head, creating vast arrays of implants that can read from and write to the brain remotely in real time. DARPA’s N3D program (next generation non-invasive neuromodulation) is cited as a path toward implantable electrodes that need not require brain surgery. - Advances in AI-driven brain technologies: developments in artificial intelligence are enabling devices that can read minds and alter brains to treat conditions, while also raising privacy concerns about who has access to this technology and what it can reveal or affect. - Privacy and data protection: Colorado enacted a first-of-its-kind law to protect private thoughts, but the discussion notes that ear pods and other devices can decode brainwave activity and determine attention, even if they cannot specify exactly what a person is paying attention to. The claim is made that brain data can be decoded to identify individuals and be used to discriminate, interrogate, or manipulate, with data often stored and shared without disclosure of storage, access, or breach procedures. The Neuro Rights Foundation reports two-thirds of brain-data–collecting companies share or sell data with third parties, and privacy protections are seen as a necessary but incomplete step. - Brain data as an identifiable, sensitive trait: brain data are described as resembling fingerprints for identification, with privacy protections argued to be a no-brainer given their capacity to reveal thoughts, emotions, and memories. There is mention of private companies and countries racing to access, analyze, and alter brain data and the potential for government misuse to alter thoughts and memories as technology advances. - Neuroscience in everyday devices and surveillance: devices like EarPods and wearables are discussed as capable of picking up brainwave activity and distinguishing not only attention but the nature of tasks (central tasks like programming vs. peripheral tasks like social media use). The combination of brainwave data with software and surveillance is described as enabling highly precise monitoring of attention and intent, raising questions about how such technologies should be used. - At-home use and real-world applications: examples include brainwave-reading EarPods launching soon, and demonstrations of decoding attention and even memories or imagined content. The discussion notes ubiquitous monitoring for productivity, including the pandemic-era rise of “bossware” and the potential for these technologies to be used in workplaces or by advertisers or law enforcement. - Security and misuse concerns: there are warnings about the security risks of Bluetooth-driven headsets, potential hacking, and the possibility of neuromodulation technologies being misused to influence or degrade mental states. There is emphasis on the need for proactive measures and a “jump on it” approach to develop safeguards. - Public safety and political context: references to Havana syndrome and the fear of direct energy weapons targeting brains reflect concerns about deliberate, covert manipulation or disruption of brain function. Testimonies discuss the potential for covert weapons, the lack of visible entry/exit points like bullets, and the risk of labeling manipulated individuals as crazy. - Ongoing questions and policy needs: discussions include why some information remains classified, the need to implement protective acts (like Havana Act), and the concern that AI integration with neuroweaponry could create new, uncharted risks, including the possibility of torture or targeting of civilians.

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Speaker 0 is being accused of spreading a Russian plan, but this claim is dismissed by both parties and former heads of the CIA. The accusation is considered garbage and not believed by anyone, including Speaker 0's friend Bernie.

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Discussion centers on 'Guys, if your, assessments here are correct, these are very covert weapons, aren't they?' 'There's no entry or exit wound. How they're designed is to make the target feel like they're crazy.' 'And you guys also said that these attacks are happening right here in this city. Is that correct?' 'I mean, have been some that have gone public with respect to Washington DC.' 'I think it was mister you mister Grozov said you spoke to a Russian agent who said that they believe that Americans are using the same weapons on them. Is that correct?' 'That is correct.' 'Might that have something to do with part of the CIA's motive to cover up the existence of the this tech and these weapons?' 'That is a very logical possibility.' 'There's a lot of reasons why the information might not be publicly released.' 'There's some long term things that needs to be done in terms of of new acts. But in the short term, we need to do things like implement the original Havana Act. DOD'

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There's no entry or exit wound. How they're designed is to make the target feel like they're crazy, like they're imagining things. And you guys also said that these attacks are happening right here in this city. I mean, have been some that have gone public with respect to Washington DC. that they believe that Americans are using the same weapons on them. That is correct. Might that have something to do with part of the CIA's motive to cover up the existence of the this tech and these weapons? That is a very logical possibility. There's a lot of reasons why the information might not be publicly released. And I do think that's something we could address more in a classified environment to explain that, but there are understandable reasons why the US government, has not revealed much of what it knows.

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Why did the shooter act? Was he alone or connected to others? What motivated him? We sought answers from the DOJ and FBI, but they claim it's an ongoing investigation and can't share information with Congress. This is unacceptable. As a member of the intelligence and armed services committees, I regularly access sensitive information, so it's hard to believe we can't get updates on this investigation. I don't know if they're intentionally withholding information, but stonewalling is common in oversight. Misinformation thrives in the absence of clarity, and our goal is to provide transparency and counter conspiracy theories surrounding these events. So far, I have seen no evidence linking state actors to these assassination attempts.

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Speaker 0: We have a problem with the CIA and FBI in Washington. Speaker 1: What's your plan to start over and fix them? Speaker 0: They've gotten out of control, with weaponization and other issues. The people need to bring about change. We were making progress, but more needs to be done.

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Why is there a classified briefing about hobbyist drones if they aren't military? I can't speak for Congress on that. We're sharing as much information as possible, but I don't have the details of the briefing to clarify what is classified. Rest assured, we are providing all the information we can based on what we know.

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Speaker 0: Wikipedia is a propaganda operation, and one of its founders told me that the CIA or the American intel community is heavily involved in shaping the message, on Wikipedia. Did you come across evidence of that? Speaker 1: On the weaponization working group, as it's described by attorney general Bondi and the president's direction, intelligence community is one of the groups who was weaponized against the people, obviously. It's obvious. The question is, how are we gonna get to the bottom of it? Right? How are gonna get to the bottom of some of the weaponization of the government intelligence community against the citizens? And that's what I that's where I'm going now.

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Speaker 0: By a member of the Ukrainian parliament. Let's talk about the tape recording evidence. Speaker 1: We don't know. Yeah. We don't know much about it because it's floating around Ukraine, but we do know the general prosecutor of Ukraine, our equivalent of the attorney general, came on our show this morning and said the following. There's enough evidence for me to open up a criminal investigation into the illicit effort by a Ukrainian to try to influence the United States election in favor of Hillary Clinton. That's a profound statement coming from the top law enforcement official of Ukraine. Why is it important? There's a court in Ukraine that's already concluded that, Ukrainian officials leaked Paul Manafort's financial records to try to sway the US election. You haven't heard anything about that in the American press, but that ruling occurred recently. Then a parliamentary member comes out and says, I have a tape of these law enforcement officials saying they did it specifically to help Hillary Clinton. That becomes the foundation of the Ukrainian investigation. Speaker 0: You have talked to people that have heard this tape. Correct? Speaker 1: Well, the, the prosecutor himself has heard the tape and said it was important enough, good enough evidence to warrant opening the investigation. So the tape, the court ruling, the top prosecutor in Ukraine says there was a foreign power Speaker 0: Two separate issues here. Number one Speaker 1: Yes. Speaker 0: Did Ukrainian officials offered us evidence that, in fact, they were involved in election interference in 2016 to help Hillary Clinton's campaign? But why didn't anybody in in the media pursue the interference story? And I thought they cared about interference, but, obviously, only if it's Russian interference and Trump because we know they don't care about the dirty Russian dossier. Speaker 1: That's right. Keep in mind that just a few months ago, Sean, we reported on your on your show and inside the hill that Ukraine's embassy in Washington confirmed on the record that back in 2016, the Democratic National Committee trying to help Hillary Clinton get elected asked the Ukraine Embassy to help interfere in the election by doing two things, dig up dirt on Paul Manafort and have Ukraine's president make a kerfuffle here in Washington about Manafort and Trump when he came to visit. Now the Ukrainians say they they rebuffed that attempt, but Hillary Clinton's campaign, the DNC, made that request according to the, Ukraine embassy in
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