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The discussion centers on whether school policy penalizes students for misusing pronouns and whether such penalties amount to harassment or suspension. The first speaker raises the core question: “For clarification, is this the policy that's used if a student misuses a pronoun they are suspended? An intentional. Yeah. That's part of the definition, bullying.” They illustrate the concern with a hypothetical: if a student’s parents raise their child to respond to a female with she pronouns, but that student says “I want to be something else,” will their child be suspended for that? The implication is that misusing or resisting pronoun usage could trigger disciplinary action under the policy. The chain of reasoning then states: “Oh yeah that would be harassment.” The speaker expresses disbelief upon learning that students might be suspended “because they are using the wrong pronoun,” stating they were aghast and did not realize that such suspensions occur. The subsequent line shows a pushback from another participant: “Should be disagree with you saying that's incorrect.” This introduces a contest over whether suspending for pronoun usage is correct, but the rebuttal immediately pivots to a claim about biological facts: “Well, one is biologically facts.” The conversation asserts: “It's actually XX chromosomes, XY chromosomes. Those are facts. We can't change those. It doesn't matter what our opinion is. We can't change those things.” The speaker emphasizes that these chromosomal facts are immutable. From there, the speaker clarifies their main question: “Those are immutable facts. And I'm wondering, are we what I'm asking, my question is, are we suspending students for immutable facts? That's what I'm asking. Not for making it as genuine.” In sum, the exchange presents a concern that disciplinary actions related to pronoun use might target individuals based on disagreements about gender identity and pronouns, and it juxtaposes this with a claim about immutable biological facts (XX and XY chromosomes) as a basis for questioning whether suspensions are being applied to immutable facts rather than to conduct. The dialogue frames a tension between policy definitions of harassment and a set of assertions about biological determinism, seeking to determine whether suspensions are being imposed for immutable factual claims rather than for misbehavior.

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"Hi. Good evening. I'm a parent in the Davis Unified School District, and I'm here today to talk about the policies you have for the locker rooms in the junior high schools." "Right now, we require our students to undress for PE class." "depending on a child's transgender identity that they can pick which bathroom they want." "So we have right now at this school district, we have children self identifying into into different bathrooms just based off of No. Their You cannot." "I have my bathing suit on." "Excuse me. This this is allowed." "We're gonna recess. I'm gonna finish my comments." "So you are violating my first amendment right." "I am putting on my You are disrupt."

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A man is pretending to be a 13-year-old girl and showering with biological women. The speaker challenges anyone who has a problem with this to leave. The speaker threatens to call the police, claiming that a 50-year-old pervert is swimming with girls. The speaker questions if anyone has an issue with mature males swimming with girls, but receives no response. The speaker mentions seeing the person in question in the mornings and implies that they are biologically male.

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Speaker 0, identifying as the only Black lesbian in the room, asks Senator Winner a direct question about women’s safety in female-only spaces, referencing an incident at Gold’s Gym where she was attacked in a locker room by a self-identifying trans woman with a documented history of domestic violence. She asks what Senator Winner would say to women seeking assurance that their safety will be protected from men who, under California law, can self-identify as women in women-only spaces. Speaker 1 responds that “we want everyone to be safe,” and notes that trans people exist as both men and women, saying, “if you're trans women or women.” He emphasizes the need to protect safety for all, acknowledging that trans women are part of the discussion. Speaker 0 continues, praising Senator Winner for housing bills and other actions, but asserts that “millions of women across America are being harassed and sexually assaulted in locker rooms.” She reiterates that she is a lesbian Black woman, not transphobic or homophobic, and stresses that some bills passed by Winner are dangerous for women and young children. She states she represents her community and urges protection for women in light of concerns about trans-inclusive policies. Speaker 2 interjects, urging Speaker 0 to allow Senator Winner to respond, while Speaker 0 reiterates the need for protection of women, specifying “Women. Women. Trans women are doing things. Women. Women.” She asserts that she was assaulted, adding, “They are not. They are men.” She describes the assailant as someone who “broke his wife’s jaw” requiring reconstructive surgery, and emphasizes her identity as a lesbian who is Black. She invites another Black woman to share her feelings, while also challenging the presence of others in the room. Speaker 1 reiterates the goal of protecting the safety of all women and acknowledges that “trans women are also brutalized in this country.” The conversation emphasizes a tension between protecting women’s safety and acknowledging the experiences of trans women, with Speaker 0 insisting, “We cannot be raped in the bathrooms by men that wanna say they're women. They're not women.” Speaker 2 responds by leaving, citing that the group is not protecting women, and remarks on the bills, stating she has read many of them and still finds issues “not right.” The exchange ends with Speaker 2, introducing herself as Tish Heine, and a comment about not allowing Blackness and civil rights to be used to justify laws for children to transform, followed by a remark about disparities in access to tampons versus transformation medication. The conversation also touches on broader political history, with Speaker 1 and Speaker 0 referencing political dynamics, including a note that “things were going so smoothly” before recalling an earlier moment in 2008 involving Aaron Peskin.

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Transgender boys benefit from free tampons in bathrooms. Speaker 1 argues that only women menstruate, based on chromosomes. Speaker 0 counters that trans men and non-binary individuals also menstruate. Speaker 1 insists that they are women dressed as men, while Speaker 0 questions the definition of a man. They debate the distinction between sex and gender, with Speaker 0 asserting that they are different. Speaker 1 disagrees and accuses Speaker 0 of making up conclusions. Speaker 0 argues against denying someone's identity, while Speaker 1 denies being hateful. The conversation ends with Speaker 0 accusing Speaker 1 of being hateful.

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Speaker 0 asks Speaker 1 if biological men should be able to use women's restrooms. Speaker 1 questions the relevance to immigration. Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 1 has ever used the women's restroom, after Speaker 1 allegedly said everyone should use the other gender's bathroom today as a protest. Speaker 1 says they have not and denies advocating for men to use women's restrooms. Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 1 regrets encouraging men to use women's restrooms and if Speaker 1 ever considered that women don't want men in their bathrooms. Speaker 0 then asks if Speaker 1 thinks it's appropriate for men to use women's restrooms because Speaker 0 believes Speaker 1 is taking rights away from underage girls.

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Speaker 0 describes an incident at the WE Spa where a man enters the women's section with his penis exposed, causing fear among women and young girls. “It's not okay. Now I can't even go and put my clothes on because he's down there. Yeah. I don't feel comfortable. We don't feel uncomfortable.” The speaker emphasizes that this behavior happened in the women’s section, with the implication that a man came into an area designated for women and girls, and asserts that “his dick is out. To the campus side? Yeah. His dick is slinging left and right, and we're women in there, and young girls are there.” The speaker challenges the arrangement, stating, “And you allow that. So then you're lying.” They argue that there is a distinction between gender rights and discrimination, claiming that “We cannot discriminate against gender rights. It's not discrimination. It's an impostor. You cannot identify a impostor, someone faking to be a woman just because they feel like they wanna call themselves a woman.” There is a dismissive stance toward the idea of recognizing someone’s gender identity in this context, with a reference to being “pre board” as a test they don’t care about. Speaker 1 interjects with a repetition of “a situation,” emphasizing that there will be consequences or a response: “You gonna have a situation.” Speaker 0 responds with escalating emotion, invoking religious language: “The blood of Jesus. You're gonna have a situation. There’s going to be a situation.” They report being at the WE Spa and witnessing a man slinging his penis, expressing disbelief and stating that some women are afraid to speak up, while they themselves are determined to speak out: “I couldn’t believe what I saw. I couldn’t believe that this man, okay, and these people up here and you got some women scared to say something. Baby, I'm not scared to say a thing.” Speaker 0 asserts a strong stance against a man asserting entrance into the men’s section or a person presenting as a woman while being male, stressing concern for children and mothers present: “The blood of Jesus against this wilding out lion spirit. Sit up here. Gonna bring him to let a man come in here, slinging his penis up in here. No. No. No.” The speaker insists that somebody who identifies as a man cannot enter the women’s area, or that someone claiming to be a woman but possessing male anatomy should be challenged. The speaker ends with a warning that “these people, they about to find out though. Watch.”

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Speaker 1 expresses that the situation is traumatizing and asserts that as a woman there is a space reserved for women. She questions the right of a transgender person to be in that space, stating, "he has a penis. A full and testicle. Okay? And and I don't care what it it's a man. You got one? You're a man." She argues that if they entered the men's section based on anatomy, it would be a man, and notes that they may not like women, but that for her and many other women, they do not feel comfortable and "it's not okay." She adds, "I'm sorry to talk to Okay? So well, I yeah. Yeah. You're sorry. You should be, sweetie, and you're out of alignment, and this is not right." She implies the other person is out of alignment and suggests attention to the situation, even commenting on the other person’s personal circumstances: "it must be hard not being a real man. Try it." She urges that every woman get all of their information. Speaker 0 responds, discussing a security guard who said that this is not allowed. Speaker 1 disregards the security guard's stance, insisting she does not care what the security guard says. Speaker 0 clarifies that the security guard doesn't want to be involved, and Speaker 1 insists that the guard should not have been present or allowed in the space. The exchange centers on whether a transgender person should be in the women's space and the authorities' stance on access. The discussion highlights discomfort, boundaries, and perceived inappropriateness from the perspective of Speaker 1, while Speaker 0 defers to the security guard's position. The dialogue ends with an emphatic consolidation of their stance: "Exactly. Thank you. Exactly. No."

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Speaker 0 warns someone about their statement regarding men competing as females. They ask the person to leave, as they continue to make the same statement. Speaker 1 acknowledges that they are right and thanks the person for being present. They mention the importance of everyone following their own rules and ask for those who interrupt to leave, as it infringes on their First Amendment rights.

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Speaker 0 expresses concern about going to a sports group and potentially being made uncomfortable. Speaker 1 argues that trans women are women and face the same risks of rape as cisgender women. Speaker 2 agrees and emphasizes that there should be no differentiation. Speaker 0 clarifies that they are not scared, but they just want to be able to go to the sports group without any issues. Speaker 1 suggests that Speaker 0 educate themselves on the topic, as there are many support groups available. Speaker 0 expresses frustration with being told they have to educate themselves.

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A speaker alleges sexual harassment, stating that she and other college women, aged 18 to 22, were exploited and exposed without their consent to a naked man. The speaker claims a 6-foot-4 naked man entered the women's locker room at the university and saw her fully undressed. She says she was unaware of his access until she heard a man's voice, turned, and saw him naked a few feet away while she was unclothed. She accuses the university of allowing college women to be traumatized and violated and questions why they were not protected.

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Speaker 0 asks Miss Robinson if she agrees with Miss Gaines about the difference between women and men. Miss Robinson initially avoids answering directly, mentioning NCAA rules. Speaker 0 insists on a yes or no answer, but Miss Robinson continues to evade, mentioning definitions related to biological sex. Speaker 0 then questions why women's sports exist if there is no difference between women and men. Miss Robinson again avoids a direct answer, mentioning the positive benefits of sports. Speaker 0 persists, asking why there is a separate category for women in soccer if there is no difference. The conversation ends without a clear answer.

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A transgender activist was asked to explain the premise of the movement, but they deflected and changed the subject. The speaker believes it is their right to ask this question because there are civil rights specifically for women, such as special bathrooms and sports leagues. They argue that if men are claiming the right to enter these spaces, either all special rights for women need to be abolished or the activists need to explain how these men are actually women. The speaker is not willing to abolish women's rights and believes most women in the country feel the same way.

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Leah Thomas is accused of having a fixation on autogynephilia, which is dressing as a woman for sexual pleasure. The speaker believes that Leah is taking advantage of being in women's spaces, such as locker rooms, and enjoying the attention. They express their frustration and call for Leah to be removed from these spaces. The speaker emphasizes that they are not willing to give up girlhood or womanhood to accommodate Leah's mental issues.

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In this video, the speaker asks how to differentiate between boys and girls. They mention that boys have short hair, but what if both individuals have short hair? The speaker suggests another way to determine gender is by removing their clothes. They also mention being asked explicit and sexual questions that made them uncomfortable, comparing it to how they would feel talking that way to their own child.

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Speaker 0 questions if Speaker 1 remains politically neutral while handing out materials in support of transgenderism. Speaker 1 denies being political and claims to be a community liaison officer for the LGBT community. Speaker 0 argues that allowing transgender individuals into women's spaces is an issue. Speaker 1 refuses to engage in the discussion and states they will not answer further questions.

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In the Sun Prairie School District in Wisconsin, a person named Raleigh shares their experience in a locker room with Leah Thomas, a biological male. Raleigh describes it as traumatizing, feeling betrayed and belittled. They express discomfort, embarrassment, and the shock of 14-year-old girls being exposed to male genitalia without consent. Raleigh explains that this situation is becoming more common, not just for them but for girls and women of all ages and sports across the country. They consider it a travesty.

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One participant insists that it’s unacceptable for a man to enter the women’s section and expose his penis to women and young girls, arguing that WE Spa condones such behavior. They question, “Is that what you’re saying? Like I asked. It’s he’s he could stay there. He could stay there?” They assert a sexual orientation claim, stating, “Sexual orientation. What sexual orientation? I see a dick. Sexual orientation. It lets me know he’s a man,” and repeatedly declare, “He he is a man. He is a man. He is not no female. He is not a female.” They emphasize that “Girls down there, other women who are highly offended for what they just saw, and you did nothing, absolutely nothing. In fact, you sided with him.” They accuse WE Spa of being “an agreement with men that just say they are a woman and they can go down there with their penis and get into the women’s section,” asking, “Is that what you’re saying? What law?” They note that “They pulled everything back. So women can go into the men’s with their breasts,” and state they won’t return, saying, “Everything needs money. Yeah. Get your money back. Every everything. You got a man with his penis talking about he’s a woman. He ain’t no woman.” They question whether the person is transgender, asserting, “Are you talking to that I’m transgender? There’s no such thing as transgender. He has a dick. Shut the fuck up. Okay? He has penis hanging out.” They add, “He and your daddy.” They conclude they are a woman who knows how to stand up for their rights, insisting, “As a woman, I have a right to feel comfortable without a man exposing himself.” They reiterate, “No. He’s not a transgender. He has a penis just like…” The other participant briefly attempts to calm the situation, saying, “You don’t so it’s okay. I just wanna be clear with you. It’s okay.” They acknowledge, “Okay?,” and the discussion ends with the first participant asserting their stance against the presence of a man with a penis in the women’s area.

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Transgender boys benefit from free tampons in bathrooms. Speaker 1 argues that only women menstruate, based on chromosomes. Speaker 0 counters that trans men and non-binary individuals also menstruate. Speaker 1 insists that they are women dressed as men, while Speaker 0 questions the definition of a man. They debate the distinction between sex and gender, with Speaker 0 emphasizing that gender is about identity. Speaker 1 claims that those who disagree are labeled as hateful, but denies harboring hate. Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1 of being hateful towards transgender men. The conversation ends unresolved.

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The speaker describes the shock of discovering a biological man in their locker room without prior notice. They approached an official who explained that the locker rooms had been made unisex to accommodate this situation. The speaker highlights the violation of privacy and safety for women and girls, questioning the message it sends to them. They express concern about their rights being dismissed in order to protect a small population. The overall sentiment among those in the locker room was a feeling of being disregarded.

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Leah Thomas is accused of having a fixation on autogynephilia and deriving sexual pleasure from dressing as a woman. The speaker argues that Leah, who competes in women's sports and takes their trophies, is crossing a line. They express frustration with the idea of accommodating Leah in women's spaces and believe therapy is necessary. The speaker emphasizes that they won't surrender girlhood or womanhood to Leah's mental issues and urges them to leave swimming pools, locker rooms, and track meets.

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An 18-year-old high school student raises concerns about transgender individuals claiming to be women and using women's spaces. They mention an incident at MLK High School where a transgender woman, who is biologically male, had an altercation with a young woman. The student questions why the safety of women is being compromised by allowing mentally confused men to use women's spaces. They express that true girls like themselves, who are female down to their DNA, should have a say in this matter. The student urges action to protect the safety of women and calls on the school to address the issue. Another student shares their experience of being continuously bothered by the transgender individual and expresses frustration with the lack of action from the school.

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A woman confronts We Spa staff, alleging a man with a penis was allowed in the women's section, exposing himself to women and young girls. She questions if We Spa condones this, implying they prioritize a man's claim of being a woman over the comfort and safety of female patrons. She asserts that "transgender" is not a valid concept, stating the individual is simply a man with a penis. She argues that women would not be allowed in the men's section with their breasts exposed. She demands refunds for all the women present, stating the situation is traumatizing and a violation of women's rights to feel safe and comfortable. She claims security acknowledged this was not allowed, and suggests predators may exploit such policies.

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I'm just heading to the bathroom. What are you doing in the girl's bathroom? I'm a trans girl. But, you're not a girl. Oh, we're doing all of this now. Interesting. I've never heard of this before, and I don't know what to say. I'm sorry you feel that way. I pay a lot of money to feel safe in the bathroom. Me too. Excuse me. Weird. Do you think that's okay?

The Megyn Kelly Show

Fox Ratings Crater, and Lia Thomas Slams Women, with Allie Beth Stuckey, Melissa Francis, and More
Guests: Allie Beth Stuckey, Melissa Francis
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Megyn Kelly opens the show discussing Tucker Carlson's return with a video that garnered millions of views, contrasting it with Fox News's declining ratings after his departure. She highlights the anger among viewers and questions Fox's motives for firing Carlson, suggesting they aim to ruin his reputation. Kelly references a New York Times report revealing Carlson's off-camera comments about his audience and a senior executive, implying a smear campaign against him. Melissa Francis joins the discussion, sharing her own experience of being abruptly fired from Fox News amid an arbitration over pay. They analyze the New York Times article, which claims Carlson made offensive remarks in private messages, and question the timing and motives behind the leak. Francis argues that if Fox were genuinely concerned about such behavior, many others in the network would also face consequences. The conversation shifts to the ratings drop at Fox News, with Kelly providing statistics showing a significant decline in viewership since Carlson's exit. They speculate on Fox's strategy to separate Carlson from his audience to mitigate the fallout from his departure. Kelly introduces Ali Beth Stuckey to discuss Leah Thomas, a transgender athlete, and the implications of gender identity in sports. Stuckey critiques the notion that feminism is being used to justify trans inclusion in women's spaces, asserting that biological definitions of womanhood are being undermined. They express frustration over the term "transphobic" and emphasize the importance of standing firm in their beliefs about gender. The discussion continues with a focus on the dangers of allowing biological males into women's spaces, citing incidents where women and girls have been put at risk. They highlight the need for women to reclaim their rights and protect vulnerable populations from aggressive ideologies. Kelly and Stuckey also touch on the case of Zoe Zephyr, a transgender lawmaker in Montana, who faced censure for inflammatory remarks regarding legislation on minors' access to gender-affirming care. They criticize Zephyr's rhetoric and the broader implications of allowing minors to undergo irreversible medical procedures. Finally, Kelly discusses the firing of Don Lemon from CNN, referencing a Variety article detailing his history of alleged misogyny and inappropriate behavior. Tatiana Siegel, the journalist behind the piece, explains the context of Lemon's past actions and the challenges he may face in finding future employment in the industry. The conversation concludes with a critique of workplace relationships and the consequences of poor decisions by executives.
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