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I'm running out of time. You seem to be pro-vaccine but have started a group, Children's Health Defense, which sells baby clothing with anti-vaccine messages, like "unvaxxed, unafraid" for $26. Can you assure us that your organization will stop selling these products? I have no control over that organization; I resigned from the board. You founded it just a few months ago. Are you supportive of these onesies? I support vaccines and want good science. Will you tell your organization to stop selling those items?

Bobby Kennedy is deeply knowledgeable about science, particularly regarding health issues like food dyes and vaccines. For over a decade, studies have shown certain food colorings are carcinogenic, yet they remain legal in the U.S. while banned in Europe. Kennedy's concerns about vaccines, including older polio versions with mercury, are often misunderstood. He emphasizes the importance of clearing viruses to prevent long COVID, highlighting the need for effective vaccines. The rising incidence of cancer in children is alarming, and there are now effective therapies available. The goal is to advance healthcare innovation and use it as a tool for foreign policy, promoting a healthier future.

Speaker claims that the American Academy of Pediatrics' top funders are "Moderna, Pfizer, Sanofi" and "Merck" as another top funder; "So if you don't think they're captured, you're you're really not being honest." They allege that "your average pediatrician makes a lot of money by having, you know, meeting milestones about having, you know, x percentage of their, population, their patient population fully vaccinated according to the schedule." They argue "so they are pushing these things despite the fact that the science is that these children don't need it." The speaker says they found on the AAP website "they are still pushing the abject falsehood that children, healthy children, are at a they say from newborn stage five are at, quote, the highest risk for COVID." "What? Are you kidding?"

RFK Jr. continues to falsely claim that vaccines cause autism, and he's made childhood vaccines a major target. This is dangerous and will lead to the death of children. When RFK Jr. says we have more chronic diseases in children than ever before, he's citing the instance of autism spectrum disorder. There are many interesting causes of autism spectrum disorder, like the infant microbiome, genetics, or medicines that pregnant people take during their pregnancy. But by focusing on childhood vaccines, he's focusing on the one thing that doesn't cause autism. Vaccines are really the safest, best-tested things that we give to children, and that's what is making America healthy. To focus on vaccines as a target and claim that they're causing harm when they're not is only a detriment to America's children.

I serve on the FDA's vaccine advisory committee because I don't have relationships with pharmaceutical companies, as that would be a conflict of interest. I actually agree with some of the things my counterpart says, such as we are too obese as a country, and we overmedicate our children. I wrote a book about this called Overkill When Modern Medicine Goes Too Far. However, I don't agree with claims that vaccines are harmful, as has been said. RFK Jr. continues to claim that vaccines cause autism, which is untrue, and he's now targeting childhood vaccines, which will only hurt children.

I'm speaking out because my fully vaccinated son, Jackson, had health issues. With SB277, my perfectly healthy, vaccine-free five-year-old can't attend school in California. I cried for weeks, feeling I was meant to fight a company bigger than some countries. I used to sell Vioxx at Merck, which was later found to have manipulated data and covered up heart attack risks. This made me realize things on the market aren't always safe. If a vaccine is added to the schedule, drug companies can make billions. I cannot stay silent. Pharma influences medical education and research, leading to biased studies. The FDA and CDC are compromised, with conflicted leaders and revolving doors. Pharma creates customers for life, especially with vaccines for kids. They prioritize profit over people, and it's up to us to take back our health.

Speaker 0 describes a study on the hepatitis B vaccine, stating it is loaded with mercury during the first thirty days of life and comparing infants who received it in that period to those who did not or who received it later. He claims that the relative risk of smoking a pack a day for twenty years leading to lung cancer is ten, with a figure of 11.35, and attributes this to Thimerosal. Speaker 1 asks if the claim is about Thimerosal, and Speaker 0 confirms, then recounts a story that motivated his involvement: a “secret meeting” held to avoid on-campus exposure to freedom of information requests. The meeting occurred at Simpson Wood, a remote Methodist retreat center on the Chattahoochee River in Norcross, Georgia. Over two days, 52 attendees included major vaccine companies, regulatory agencies (WHO, CDC, FDA, NIH, HHS), and leaders in academic vaccinology. Megan recorded the first day, and Speaker 0 says he obtained the transcripts in 2005, calling them horrific. He invites listeners to read them on the Children’s Health Events site to judge for themselves, arguing the transcripts reveal “panjarums of the American healthcare system” and that regulators claimed the science was bulletproof while suggesting vaccines cause autism. Speaker 1 notes that Speaker 0 has previously claimed the conference revealed that vaccines cause autism and that data should be buried, referencing a January 2011 Rolling Stone article and a Salon piece that later withdrew the article. He mentions an eighteen-month US Senate committee investigation that found allegations of CDC misconduct unsubstantiated and concluded there was no cover-up. Speaker 0 clarifies it was a two-year committee hearing led by Senator Burton at the Governmental Oversight Committee, and asserts that vaccines do cause autism, while encouraging listeners to research the science themselves rather than trust him or the organizations cited. Speaker 0 then attacks the credibility and funding of CDC, NIH, and the American Academy of Pediatrics, claiming they are “bought and paid for,” with statistics he cites: FDA is funded 45% by the pharmaceutical industry; the AAP allegedly gets 80% of its money from industry; and the CDC spends 4,900,000,000 of its 12,000,000,000 annual budget. Speaker 1 pushes back by noting that parents within these organizations vaccinate their own children against vaccines that include thimerosal, asking rhetorically whether they are willingly harming their children, and suggesting a broader government conspiracy. Speaker 0 then directs Speaker 1 to the movie Dopesick for further context, contrasting it with opioid prescriptions, and asserts that doctors treated patients and their own children with opioids because they believed FDA guidance. Overall, the dialogue centers on thimerosal in early vaccines, alleged hidden meetings and data suppression, controversial media coverage of vaccines-autism links, and critical claims about regulatory agency funding and conduct, culminating in comparisons to pharmaceutical and medical industry dynamics.

You have raised concerns about Robert Kennedy's potential influence on vaccines and vaccine manufacturing. While you emphasize the importance of following scientific guidelines, there are fears that Kennedy could undermine access to vaccines, which could have serious consequences for children's health. Despite his assurances, there is skepticism about his commitment to supporting vaccinations. You assert that Kennedy could profit significantly while jeopardizing public health, leading to tragic outcomes for children. In response, you affirm your support for vaccines and the childhood vaccination schedule.

I will comply with all ethical guidelines. However, you are implying that I should not challenge backseat decisions. As Secretary of HHS, Robert Kennedy could undermine vaccines and their manufacturing, potentially profiting while risking children's health. I support vaccines and the childhood schedule, but I prioritize good science. You should clarify that Kennedy has undergone the same ethics review as other nominees and has signed an ethics letter regarding conflicts of interest. While concerns about his financial interests are raised, he has complied with all applicable laws. I cannot confirm if any previous nominee has made millions from suing entities they would regulate, but all nominees face scrutiny over their financial interests, and Kennedy has met the necessary requirements.

I defend public health leaders and question why cuts are bad for health at HHS. Distrust stems from conflicts of interest, like Dr. Offit taking money from pharmaceutical companies while recommending drugs. He claims science is settled, yet approved vaccines have been recalled. I want focus on real issues: 38% of children having prediabetes. Measles deaths were high before vaccines, but chronic conditions are a bigger threat now. RFK Jr. isn't anti-vaccine but wants vaccine studies. I question why media covers measles over obesity and diabetes. Sixteen percent of COVID deaths were American, but the CDC didn't discuss metabolic links. I support measures like removing soda from SNAP, aiming for better health policies. Pharma profits from sick children, incentivizing chronic disease.

The recent confirmation hearings have sparked intense engagement, particularly regarding nominees like RFK Jr., Tulsi Gabbard, and Kash Patel. Senators aggressively questioned them, often interrupting their responses, which undermines the purpose of the hearings. Many attacks on RFK Jr. stem from significant financial ties senators have with the pharmaceutical industry, raising concerns about conflicts of interest. Despite claims that RFK caused a measles outbreak, the reality points to deeper issues within the vaccine system. Senators like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, who have received substantial pharma donations, have been particularly hostile. The hearings reveal a broader struggle against entrenched interests, with RFK Jr. advocating for transparency and accountability in health policies. The ongoing resistance to change reflects a system that prioritizes control and profit over public health.

Avoid politics; this is about Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who promotes misinformation and conspiracy theories. Experts in the medical community express significant concerns about him potentially taking a role in health, particularly as Secretary of Health and Human Services, which oversees the CDC, FDA, and NIH. His proposals, like cutting funding for infectious diseases, are alarming, especially post-pandemic. While there are valid criticisms of the healthcare system, many of his views are not alternative but false. For instance, the myth linking vaccines to autism has been debunked through extensive studies showing no connection, and some studies even suggest unvaccinated children may have a higher autism risk. These persistent falsehoods are a major concern regarding his influence on public health.

"Senator: 'We discovered is that Anthony Fauci was destroying federal records. He was encouraging other people to destroy federal records. That is a crime.' He testified to the house a year ago and said he wasn't doing that. 'That's a crime to perjure himself.' 'We will bring him back. I've asked him to come and testify this fall. If he doesn't come voluntarily, we will subpoena him.' 'The question is, is he immune because of the pardon? I think that that needs to be challenged in court.' 'I have encouraged the Trump administration that they should prosecute this case and challenge the auto pen. I don't think the auto pen is sufficient.' 'There were so many pardons that I'm not sure Biden was aware of all the people he did pardon.' 'There is not a direct link from the person running the auto pen to the president. The person that was running the auto pen never spoke with the president.' 'And I think a president's signature on something so as important as legislation or a pardon is absolutely required.'" "Susan Monarez will testify before the senate HELP committee tomorrow. This will be her first appearance since being ousted from the role. She will be joined by Deb Aury, a former chief medical officer and deputy director who was one of four CDC officials who resigned after Monarez was ousted." "The chair with the president of Moderna ... I asked him about the expectation that he'll be getting a lot less revenue from the vaccine for COVID perhaps this time around. The scientific evidence shows that the risks of taking the COVID vaccine for children exceeds the benefits, and the scientific evidence is abundant on this. There's a study out of Israel that showed that about six to eight kids 20 that are healthy will get an inflammation of the heart that is very dangerous, and that risk exceeds the benefits of a vaccine. Every kid at six months needs to get a COVID vaccination, and that defies the scientific evidence and shows me that she's not objective. It's the same with the hepatitis B vaccine. Unless the mom has hepatitis B vaccine, disease, there is no indication for the vaccine at birth, and we need to readdress that."

I'm asking if you will agree not to sue drug companies. I'm not agreeing to that. As secretary of HHS, you could influence lawsuits in many ways, such as promoting anti-vaccine views, appointing like-minded individuals, or changing vaccine schedules and compensation rules. You could even share FDA data with law firms for their benefit. I'm asking you to commit not to financially benefit from these lawsuits while serving as secretary. I will comply with ethical guidelines. You're trying to undermine vaccines. As secretary, you could harm vaccine access while profiting from it. I support vaccines and the childhood schedule; I just want good science. Then say you won't profit from your role as secretary.

What's causing distrust in public health isn't the idea of public health itself, but the actions of its leaders. We need to address the conflicts of interest, like Dr. Offit taking millions from pharmaceutical companies while approving their products. It's also about holding people accountable when they make definitive statements about science, yet have approved products, like vaccines, that have later been recalled for causing harm. While measles is important, let's remember that before the vaccine, there were 300 deaths a year from measles. Today, we have a much bigger problem, with 38% of children having prediabetes. It is important that we focus on reorganizing the department to address issues like this, instead of being distracted.

The discussion centers on Robert Kennedy's potential conflicts of interest as Secretary of HHS regarding lawsuits against pharmaceutical companies. One party questions Kennedy's commitment to not financially benefit from lawsuits while in office and for four years afterward. Kennedy states he will comply with ethical guidelines but refuses to agree not to sue drug companies. Concerns are raised about his ability to influence vaccine policies and lawsuits, potentially benefiting financially. Kennedy insists he supports vaccines and the childhood vaccination schedule, emphasizing the need for good science. A committee member defends Kennedy, stating he has gone through the necessary ethics review process. The conversation highlights the tension between regulatory responsibilities and personal financial interests.

I support discussing issues like obesity and overmedicating children. Bobby Kennedy is fighting against the incentive for pharma to profit from sick children, and he's supporting efforts to remove soda from SNAP. The problem is that organizations like Merck don't have children's best interests at heart, considering their history of criminal penalties for misleading information. When the data isn't on their side, RFK Jr. and personal injury lawyers attack the person. My Merck chair is defined by Penn, and there's no quid pro quo. The science continually proves RFK Jr. wrong about vaccines.

I love the idea of teaming up with Robert Kennedy and the "Make America Healthy Again" initiative. Many harmful chemicals in our food are banned in other countries, leading to health issues like obesity, which affects military eligibility. The U.S. spends significantly on health yet ranks poorly in life expectancy compared to healthier nations. While I support RFK's focus on health, I need to be cautious about his environmental views, especially regarding oil. Some in big pharma are not pleased with our collaboration, as RFK highlights issues with certain pharmaceuticals. Vaccines have been beneficial, like the polio vaccine, but there are concerns about vaccine-derived strains emerging, such as in the Gaza Strip. I’m open to RFK's insights and hope for solutions that are cost-effective and beneficial for public health.

RFK Jr.'s potential role as HHS secretary is framed around three goals: The target is to clean up the corruption. Number two, get back to science based evidence. And number three, end chronic disease, which is a pretty big goal. The speaker notes pushback from big food, chemical, and pharma companies who really don't like him. He cites a counterargument: 'there is no clear evidence yet that disease is caused by processed food.' You know how ridiculous that sounds? This, this. It's not linked to chronic disease. What does cause disease? And their response is, we don't know. We need to do more research.

Why is everyone so focused on measles when so many other health issues plague our country? The media breathlessly covers five measles cases while ignoring the obesity epidemic affecting 50% of teens. Sixteen percent of COVID deaths worldwide were Americans, but our health priorities seem misdirected. The focus on measles is overshadowing other critical health concerns. Bobby Kennedy's stance isn't anti-vaccine; he simply advocates for rigorous studies on vaccines, like any other product. He, and others, are concerned with the chronic conditions responsible for 92% of deaths in the United States, and want to address the bigger picture of health policy.

Bobby Kennedy has been nominated by President Trump for the Secretary of Health and Human Services position. His opponents are attempting to discredit him by falsely claiming he wants to eliminate the polio vaccine. The truth is that a petition was filed questioning the safety of one specific polio vaccine, which was licensed based on inadequate clinical trials. The petition sought a proper review, not the elimination of the vaccine. There are concerns about the safety and efficacy of vaccines, especially given the rise in chronic health issues among children. The current vaccine compensation system protects manufacturers from liability, creating conflicts of interest. Kennedy's nomination is seen as a potential disruption to the status quo, which many believe is necessary given the alarming health trends in the U.S.

Bobby Kennedy has been nominated by President Trump for the position of Secretary of Health and Human Services. His opponents are attempting to discredit him by falsely claiming he wants to eliminate the polio vaccine. The truth is that a petition was filed questioning the safety of one specific polio vaccine, which was licensed based on inadequate clinical trials. The petition aimed to require a proper review, not to eliminate access to the vaccine. Additionally, the conversation touches on the broader issues of vaccine safety, the conflicts of interest in health agencies, and the increasing chronic health conditions in children. Kennedy's commitment to transparency and public health reform is emphasized, highlighting the need for change in the current healthcare system.

Hi. I'm Robert F. Kennedy Jr, your HHS secretary. Should doctors make decisions based upon what's best for their patients or based upon what makes them the most money? It rewards certain treatments, not because they're better for the patient, but because someone profits. Take what happened during COVID. Hospitals were paid to report staff vaccination rates. We're scanning every corner of the health care system for hidden incentives at corrupt medical judgment. What we're finding is alarming. Doctors are being paid to vaccinate not to evaluate. We've recently uncovered that more than 36,000 doctors had their Medicare reimbursements altered based upon childhood vaccination rates. That's not medicine.