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To restore balance between the US and Israel and sane public conversation, the speaker says we must get our theology right. This message is aimed at Christians—the largest group of Israel supporters in the US—whose view is colored by a Christian heresy: that God prefers some people based on DNA. The chosen people, he argues, are 'the people who choose Jesus' and that is the universal Christian message. He cites Lindsey Graham and others, calling this 'not Christianity' and 'heresy.' Examples: 'Israel is our friend. They're the most reliable friend we have in the Mideast.' 'This is not a hard choice if you're an American.' 'If America pulls the plug on Israel, god will pull the plug on us.' 'God will kill you if you don't support Bibi Netanyahu.' He contends this uses God as a weapon, and 'the killing of the innocent' is forbidden; 'that person is committing heresy.'

Genesis: 'And God said, I will curse those who curse Israel' and 'And through you, I will bless all nations.' These quotes were spoken to Abraham. He asks, 'are Israelites or are Jews still God's chosen people?' and answers, 'No.' He cites Galatians: 'There is neither Jew nor Gentile slave nor free nor is there male or female for you all are one in Christ Jesus.' 'If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise.' He claims this provides 'clear and undeniable evidence from scripture that God said that if you are one in Christ, you are God's people, and you are the seed of Abraham.' He states, 'the modern day Jews that reside in the state of Israel are not God's people. It is the Christians, the people who are one in Christ.' He urges, 'Read these passages, read the context around them, and don't just go based upon one little pluck from the bible to base your entire belief system off of when it comes to who are God's people.'

Speaker 0: The Israelites is not Israel. And as Tony and I are both Catholic, and so when we talk about the Israelites that are talked about in the Bible, there is a clear distinction between this prophecy about the Israelites and the government of Israel and white Europeans settling into the holy land. Mhmm. And so when we say this, like, the Israelites, the Israelites in the bible are actually the Palestinian people who have been there for thousands of years, not the white European from Ukraine or Poland or America. The Israelites are the people who were indigenous to that land that lived there for thousands of years, and those are not the people who have Trump wrapped around his finger. It's this, like, settler colonial white Europeans that have settled into the land of the actual Israelites that have either blackmailed him or cut deals with him financially. I mean, we go back to greed. Right? Greed is always, like, a big factor decisions. So Trump, in all senses, is wrapped in intertwined with this government and the Zionist regime and the Rothschilds and the Vanderbilts and the 13 rich families that control the world, basically. Right.

The speaker claims that the "Zionist occupation of Palestine that calls itself Israel" is built on lies and theft, having stolen the name "Israel." The name originates from the Old Testament, where Jacob was renamed Israel, and his descendants were the Israelites. Those who accepted covenants with God were part of the House of Israel, later the Christian Church established by Jesus. Rejecters of Jesus were the Jews, a pejorative term for those who rejected Christ. The speaker asserts that the true Israel is the Church, not a birthright or DNA privilege. Christian Zionists are deceived in believing today's Jews are still in covenant with God from the old covenant with Abraham. The speaker rejects Calvinist theology and predestination. In 1948, Zionists stole the name Israel to mislead evangelicals and religious Jews. Only religious fanatics in Puritan circles supported Zionism, misinterpreting scriptures. The speaker believes evangelicals are not Christians, the chosen people are not chosen, and Israel is not Israel. The true Israel is a spiritual fellowship of people with faith who follow Jesus. The Zionist occupation is a Jewish military dictatorship that has fooled religious fanatics and the secular masses.

It's strange that many Christian conservatives/nationalists are anti-Israel, given Israel's importance to both Jews and Christians, especially concerning Jesus's Jewish heritage and biblical history. Organized tours to Israel often have more Christians than Jews. All Jewish and Christian people should care about preserving Israel to preserve biblical history. Christian history is tied to Jewish history; Christianity wouldn't exist without Judaism. God's covenant with Abraham remains with Israel and the Jewish people. Israel fights America's battles by pushing back radical Islamic jihadism. Judeo-Christian values connect Christianity, the Jewish people, Israel, and the United States. The threat in America is real; if pro-Israel events aren't safe in Texas, nowhere in America is safe for Jews or Christians who support Israel.

You can't be a Christian and anti-Jewish, as Jesus was Jewish. However, being pro-Israel implies being pro-Zionist. The belief that the Jewish people are still God's chosen people is incorrect. The New Testament indicates that the church is now God's people. The parable of the vineyard illustrates that Israel's leaders rejected God's son, leading to the kingdom being taken away from them. Therefore, the idea that the Israelites remain God's chosen people contradicts Jesus' message about their rejection.

To restore balance between the United States and Israel, the speaker says we must get our theology right. This is not a message aimed at Israelis or Jews; it targets Christians, the largest group of Israel supporters in the United States. He calls the belief that God favors some people by DNA 'the oldest of the Christian heresies' and says, 'The chosen people are people who choose Jesus.' He declares, 'That is not Christianity. It is heresy.' He warns that if America pulls the plug on Israel, god will pull the plug on us, and, 'God will kill you if you don't support Bibi Netanyahu.' He argues that 'The Christian message is universal' and that, 'If you find anyone leveraging the message of Jesus to justify the killing of innocents, that person is committing heresy.'

As a Christian, I follow Jesus, a Palestinian who fled to Egypt as a child due to violence against innocent children. He was a Palestinian refugee. To my fellow Christians, please do not speak of making room for Jesus in your heart if you cannot also make room for Palestinians in need of help and safety today.

Speaker 0 believes Christians are biblically commanded to support Israel, based on the idea that those who bless Israel will be blessed. Speaker 1 questions if this refers to the modern political entity of Israel, with its current borders and leadership, as opposed to the Jewish people. Speaker 0 affirms that the biblical reference to Israel does indeed refer to the modern nation-state, which he says is the same nation of Israel spoken about in Genesis. Speaker 1 expresses skepticism, suggesting that most people interpret the Genesis passage as referring to the Jewish people, not necessarily the political entity of modern Israel.

Speaker 0 states their support for Israel stems from a biblical teaching: those who bless Israel will be blessed. Speaker 1 questions if this refers to the modern government of Israel. Speaker 0 clarifies the Bible refers to the nation of Israel. Speaker 1 asks for a definition of Israel, questioning if it means the current political entity run by Benjamin Netanyahu, and Speaker 0 confirms that it does. Speaker 1 suggests the Genesis verse refers to the Jewish people, but Speaker 0 disagrees. Speaker 1 points out Speaker 0 cannot cite the exact scripture. Speaker 0 says they are explaining their personal motivation, not saying all Christians must support the modern state of Israel. Speaker 1 summarizes Speaker 0's position as being based on a Bible verse they cannot locate.

"As Christians support the government of Israel, we are commanded to support Israel." "It says that those who bless you, Abraham, this was before Israel, will be blessed by God." "And those who curse you, Abraham, will be cursed by God." "For not all who are born into the nation of Israel are truly members of God's people." "Being descendants of Abraham doesn't make them truly Abraham's children." "Israel didn't have a nation or a land to call their own for almost two thousand years since the destruction of the temple in the year seventy AD." "The nation of Israel was recreated through some political operatives after World War II." "I think the scripture makes it clear that it's about whether you're blessing or cursing the true children of Abraham, those who believe the promises of the gospel."

The speaker challenges the idea of being "pro-Israel" based on biblical interpretations. She argues that dispensationalism, a modern church teaching, incorrectly identifies the nation of Israel as still being God's chosen people. Referencing Matthew 21, she states that the kingdom of God was taken away from the Israelites after they rejected Jesus. She cites Matthew 8, stating that many non-Jews will feast with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, while the "subjects of the kingdom" (Jews) will be thrown into darkness. She asserts that earthly Jerusalem is no longer the Jerusalem of God, replaced by the heavenly Jerusalem described in Revelation 21. Using Galatians 3, the speaker identifies Christ as the true seed of Abraham, and those baptized into Christ, regardless of ethnicity, as Abraham's seed and heirs. Therefore, prioritizing the state of Israel over Palestine is a distortion of scripture. She concludes that in Christ's eyes, a Palestinian who loves and is baptized in Jesus is more of a "real Jew" than a Jew who rejects Jesus.

Jesus was a Jewish rabbi living in two thousand years ago. He was a rabbi from the Galilee. He came to Jerusalem. He turned the money tables. I think people forget that the world of Jesus was a Jewish world. His name is Jewish. Jesus is standing in synagogue. He's holding the scriptures. But what are the scriptures? He's holding the Old Testament. He's holding the Hebrew scriptures. For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, Jesus, the Jew. Salvation is of the Jews. The patriarchs, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, are all Jewish people. Christian, there's a Jewish man living in your heart. The scriptures are Jewish scriptures. Our Messiah is a Jewish Messiah. As Gentiles we are grafted into the root system of Israel. The church has not replaced the Jews.

Speaker 0 argues that America’s economy is war-based and that those who plan it rely on Christians for support. Christian Zionists, by whatever name, are described as the primary enablers of serial wars, sanctions, and occupations of Islamic states. The question posed is why Christians support war when Jesus demanded peace, with the claim that they have been conditioned to see Islam as a threat. Christian Zionist leaders are accused of using themselves as propagandists against Islamic governments, including Iraq, Palestine, Afghanistan, Somalia, Bosnia, Iran, and Sudan. The speaker’s purpose is to explain how this has been done and what can be changed, asserting that wars are an official economic policy of the U.S. government and that Christian Zionists are the only major faction supporting wars in places like Iraq. Responsibility for economic and social disasters, rising energy and food costs, is attributed largely to Christian Zionists, who are described as influential in presidential politics and as among our friends and relatives, requiring a constructive approach rather than ridicule. Speaker 0 states that Christian Zionism is a promoted religion that makes little sense on its own and is not believed for its logic. The claim is that endless wars erode morality and currency, citing Great Britain as an historical example. Christian Zionists are said to be swayed to support war as long as they believe Muslims are on the receiving end and Israel benefits. The speaker emphasizes not excusing Jewish war-making but asserts that for every Jewish Zionist, there are 10 or 20 Christian Zionists doing their work. Christian Zionists are accused of turning away from Jesus’ words, “blessed are the peacemakers,” and love of enemies, and the speaker asserts that followers who fail to stand for justice will be questioned. Speaker 1 adds that the Christian Bible demands peace, with “Blessed are the peacemakers” cited as a central, uncompromising message. They challenge pastors and religious leaders to find any line in the Bible permitting war or killing, concluding there is none. Speaker 0 notes that political change requires understanding the roots of Christian Zionism, mentioning that many who “Israel first” do not identify as Christian Zionists and may deny the label. Media figures at the apex of Christian Zionism—John Hagee, Ron Parsley, Pat Robertson, the late Jerry Falwell—are named as having expressed views that war against Islamic states is necessary, including war against Iran, and some advocate preemptive military action against Iran. Speaker 1 asserts that Christian Zionism is the only religion with war as a core principle, contrasting it with mainstream Christianity of 2,000 years. They question how to identify a Christian Zionist with a litmus test: whether they believe modern Israel fulfills biblical prophecy. Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss biblical interpretation, arguing that God’s promise to Abram did not grant land to present-day Israel forever, and that Scofield’s notes in The Scofield Reference Bible (fundamental to Christian Zionism) distort scripture. They criticize Oxford University Press for promoting Scofield’s notes, suggesting that Scofield’s footnotes insert unbiblical interpretations, such as an unconditional blessing of Israel and a perpetual land grant, and claim that these notes misrepresent the promise and connect blessings and curses to contemporary politics. Historical commentary includes: the Balfour Declaration, World War I involvement, and the role of Zionist influence through Scofield and Oxford University Press in shaping American evangelical support for Israel. Philip Morrow (Gospel of the Kingdom) and Doctor F. Furman Curley are cited as early critics who warned against dispensationalism and Christian Zionism, linking Armageddon predictions to support for war. The transcript includes firsthand testimony from Gaza: Shireen, a Palestinian from Gaza, describing nightly missile raids and occupation, and the film’s purpose to document the consequences of Christian Zionist policy. The concluding appeal urges sharing the film with mainline pastors and encouraging recovery of America for God, rejecting the notion of a divinely ordained Israeli state. The film is dedicated to Shireen and others affected by the conflict.

Bible is crystal clear. Jesus said to the Jews, the kingdom of God shall be taken from you and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. In the Old Testament, Israel was God's chosen people. God chose Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and he used the nation of Israel as a pattern; they were supposed to be a light to Gentiles. They failed in that mission. The Lord Jesus Christ came as the Messiah, and he came unto his own and his own received him not. The Bible squarely places the blame for the death of Jesus on the Jews. In Acts, the Romans protect Christians, while the Jews try to rip them apart and stone them; Romans restore law and order. This is why I reject Zionism and being pro Israel. I read the Bible cover to cover, 20 times, and I didn't see it because you're brainwashed.

The transcript argues that Oxford University Press launched a deliberate attack on Christianity by publishing the Schofield Reference Bible in 1908, a Bible whose notes purportedly inject reinterpretations that connect the future state of Israel to access to God. It states the book’s importance led OUP to open its first American branch, publishing it and promoting it through key American seminaries and Bible schools, thereby shaping future pastors’ beliefs to align with a peacemaking tradition favorable to the state of Israel. The speakers claim many pastors were unaware of the danger at the time, and that the Schofield Bible would later be used by secular powers to steer Christians toward political and financial servitude to present-day Israel. They assert American Christianity became increasingly Zionized after 1948 with the appearance of the state of Israel, aided by Oxford University Press’s Zionist influence and its New York publishing branch, which published the Schofield Reference Bible as a foundational document for Christian Zionism and evangelicalism, contributing to its growth through deception. The narrative links the founders of world Zionism, especially Chaim Weizmann, to efforts to involve the United States in World War I and to gain land in Palestine, arguing that a small number of dominant American scientists influenced President Wilson to enter the war, resulting in substantial American casualties while enabling Zionist aims in Palestine after the Balfour Declaration. The Schofield Reference Bible is described as copyrighted in 1909, an old and new testament with many notes added originally in the Old Testament, with later additions in the New Testament and a radical 1967 revision. The cover features Cyrus I. Scofield and an editorial board including James M. Gray, president of Moody Bible Institute, and other seminary leaders. Distribution allegedly occurred through seminaries, influencing new pastors who returned to churches with the Schofield Bible in hand. A critical examination of a page from Genesis 12:3 is used to illustrate the alleged distortions: the verse, part of the Torah and quoted in the Koran, is presented as a basis for Christians and Zionists to claim that present-day Israel should own all land in the Middle East beginning with Palestine. The 1967 Scofield edition reportedly contains more footnotes than the 1909 version, with a footnote claiming an unconditional promise of land to Israel forever, which the speakers assert is not stated in the passage. They argue that the footnotes render Abraham’s promise as a perpetual land grant to Israel, and that the note uses the later term “Jew” unjustly to describe biblical figures from before the existence of Judah or the Jews. The transcript contends that Oxford’s notes imply blessings or curses based on support for Israel, and that a nation’s supposed sin for not aiding Israel would invite divine judgment, a claim the speakers label as a form of antisemitism manufactured by Christian Zionism. They argue that the concept of national sin is flawed, and that individuals alone sin, not nations. Historical figures like Philip Morrow and Doctor F. Furman Curley are cited as Orthodox Christian critics who warned against dispensationalism and Christian Zionism. Morrow warned in 1927 that Schofield Bible had usurped authority from Scripture, while Curley in 1983 linked premillennialist advocacy of Israel to wars in the Middle East and urged Christians to seek peace rather than war, criticizing figures like Hal Lindsey and Jerry Falwell. The final note emphasizes that Jesus’ simple New Testament teachings do not support Christians taking life abroad, urging a reconsideration of the doctrine behind Christian Zionism.

Two thousand years of Christian history have been horrible to the Jewish people. Unspeakable atrocities have been committed against your family under the banner of the cross and in the name of Jesus. Even with many lifetimes of repentance, it would not be sufficient for all that has happened. Yet tonight there is a message: a new breed of Christian is alive in the world today. There is a new breed of Christian that says, along with you, for Zion's sake, I will not be silent, and for Jerusalem's sake, I will not be still. We have been divided. There is fear. Evangelicals are all missionaries who want to return everyone to Jerusalem so the apocalypse can come, or to have nefesh ben nefesh have a good year so Jesus can return. We know the stereotypes. Jesus both unites and divides us. For Christians, Jesus is our favorite Jew; for most Jews, he’s the cousin you don’t talk about at Pesach. But in this pivotal moment of history, we have an opportunity not to be divided, but to be unified. Everyone in this room—Christian and Jew—prays for the same thing: the coming of Mashiach. May he come soon and quickly and in our day, so we can all sing. And when Mashiach comes, there will be a great press conference in Jerusalem. The BBC and the New York Times will not be invited. The Jerusalem Post will conduct the interview with Mashiach and ask, is this your first visit or your second? The answer will be yes. None of us need to be ashamed or embarrassed or wrong. We are together ascending the hill of the Lord. Until Mashiach comes, we must unite and work. We must become partners—evangelical Christians, eagle's wings, and Jews—as partners in the divine will, working as never before, because we face the same threat. We face radical Islamic ideology on one hand, and radical wokeism and communism on the other hand, an unholy alliance against Western civilization. Against that unholy alliance, there must be a holy alliance that arises of Jews and Christians working together for the betterment of all the human family. It must happen, and it must happen now. Speaker 1: I’m now going to invite CEO of the Jerusalem Post, Ibn Bar Ashkenazi, to give the Shield of David Award to Bishop Stearns.

I want to address who pro-Zionists are and clarify some common misconceptions. Being pro-Israel isn't about being anti-Jewish, as Jesus himself was Jewish. However, the New Testament indicates that the nation of Israel is no longer God's chosen people; that title now belongs to the church. True Jews are those who follow the Lord's laws and ethics in their hearts, not just outwardly. In fact, those who reject Jesus are like the sons of Hagar, not of Sarah. There's neither Jew nor Gentile, but Christ, and Christ's kingdom doesn't favor any human government, and we shouldn't prioritize any nation over Christ. When we see children being killed, whether Israeli or Palestinian, it breaks Jesus' heart. We should be pro-Jesus and his kingdom and remember our brothers and sisters in Christ, even Palestinian Christians.

The speaker challenges the idea of being "pro-Israel" or pro-Zionist, asserting it stems from a misinterpretation of the Bible and dispensationalism. They claim the New Testament indicates the nation of Israel is no longer God's chosen people, but rather the church. Using biblical passages, the speaker argues that the kingdom of God was taken from the Israelites after they rejected Jesus. They state that believers in Jesus, regardless of ethnicity (Jew or Gentile), are the true seed of Abraham and heirs to the promise. The speaker contends that earthly Jerusalem lost its significance after rejecting Jesus, replaced by the heavenly Jerusalem. They equate Zionism with being anti-gospel and anti-Christian. The speaker questions favoring Israeli children over Palestinian children, asserting Jesus loves all equally. They believe those who die in Christ are perfected and united in love in Jesus' presence, transcending earthly divisions.

The speaker asserts that Israel is not Israel and that the Zionists steal everything, including property and food. The Zionist occupation of Palestine, which calls itself Israel, is described as built on lies and theft and evil, with the name Israel stolen and misappropriated to deceive the world. The name supposedly originates from the Old Testament: Jacob, renamed Israel, had twelve tribes, and over time covenants with God defined who was in the House of God or Israel, later associated with the Church of the Desert. Crystallizing through Jesus, those who accepted the New Covenant were grafted into this House of God, becoming the Christian church established by Jesus and his apostles at Pentecost, before the New Testament was written, completed, and canonized. Those who rejected the covenant were deprived of salvation, and most outspoken rejecters of Jesus were Jews, though some Jews accepted Christ and entered the New Covenant, becoming Christians. The speaker denies the existence of a Messianic Jew, asserting it is fraudulent, a Jew who wants to retain privileges while posing as a Christian. In the New Testament, “ Jew ” is presented as a pejorative term for those who rejected Christ in favor of Barabbas, with Romans presenting Jesus’ crucifixion after Judeans chose Barabbas. Some prefer the term Pharisee to avoid antisemitism accusations. Through Christ, God opened up Israel to everyone, while Israel itself remained the same, though evangelism was not initially part of God’s plan; Jesus later instructed his apostles to spread the Word to all humanity. Gentiles were grafted into the house of Israel, i.e., the Christian Church, and the true Israel is the Church. Salvation is not a birthright; bloodline does not grant spiritual privilege, and entering Heaven requires effort amid temptation. A covenant has terms and conditions that must be adhered to, and if not, the contract is void. This is criticized as a mistake by Christian Zionists, who allegedly ignore this. The speaker questions whether today’s Jews are actual descendants of Abraham, noting that behavior matters and a contract requires mutual respect; God keeps his promises, but man does not. The discussion moves to Jesus as Messiah and the Logos Incarnate, denying that Jews today are God’s chosen people or that there is divine DNA or a birthright. Calvinist predestination is condemned as biological determinism, implying questions about free will and the relevance of behavior. The Enlightenment and Darwinian theory are cited as developments following Reformation-driven shifts toward determinism and new denominations, implying a lack of verifiable genetic continuity between modern Jews and ancient Israelites and stressing that behavior remains irrelevant to such claims. Fast forward to 1948, when Zionists established a state under the name Israel, described as stolen to mislead evangelicals and religious Jews within the Zionist movement. The claim is made that Zionism arose from Judaism, with early Jewish advocates like Moses Hess and his work Rome and Jerusalem supporting a Jewish state as an alliance between secular and religious Jews. The speaker contends that Christians who supported Zionism were not truly Christian, and that Protestant splintering led to divisions, Judaization of many groups, and efforts to witness the arrival of messiahs. A spiritual conflict is described where evangelicals, not true Christians, support a “chosen people” and a regime calling itself Israel. The true Israel, the speaker concludes, is not a territory or physical location but a spiritual fellowship of people who follow Jesus. The Zionist occupation of Palestine, named Israel since 1948, is described as a Jewish military dictatorship masquerading as a country, fooling both religious and secular audiences, with control of media and Hollywood obscuring the truth. The claim ends with an analogy: a name does not make something real, just as a person can call himself Jesus but not be the Messiah. A counterfeit dollar is used as a comparison.

I was once asked why evangelical Christians are so supportive of Jewish people and Israel. The answer is simple: you can be Jewish and have nothing to do with Christians, but I can't be Christian and not have everything to do with the Jewish people. My faith, scriptures, and everything I believe is built on that foundation. We are people of the book. If you read in Genesis that God blesses those who bless Israel and curses those who curse Israel, it becomes very clear.

Christians should support the biblical Israel, not the current state of Israel. Criticizing those who claim to be Jews but are not is mentioned in the Bible. Questioning and criticizing should be allowed, as it is a red flag when certain groups or narratives cannot be questioned.

"He wasn't a Palestinian teacher. He was a Jewish teacher with a Jewish name, Yeshua." The speakers stress Jesus' Jewish context: the world of Jesus was a Jewish world, and he taught in a synagogue using the Hebrew scriptures, the Old Testament. They argue Christianity rests on the Hebrew Bible and that the New Testament is a Jewish document; the first Jews and first Christians were all Jews, and the New Testament was written by Jews. Key claims include "Salvation is of the Jews" and that everything Christians have was given by the Jewish people. Jesus kept the law of Moses and did not come to destroy it but to fulfill it. The Messiah is Jewish—the King of the Jews. They condemn replacement theology and urge standing with Israel, Zionism, and that the throne of David will be on Mount Zion.

A version of the Bible was edited to include support for Israel, which has been used to rally evangelical backing for the country. This contradicts Christian beliefs, as supporting Israel could align with the arrival of the antichrist according to biblical predictions. Jews await their messiah, who they believe will rule the world from Israel, while Christians predict the antichrist will do the same. This creates a paradox in evangelical support for Israel.