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Speaker 0 repeatedly asks Speaker 1 to give them a call. They express concern about what Speaker 1 has done to Dylan, a baby, and accuse Speaker 1 of lying. Speaker 0 mentions that they didn't know the doctor had to report something to the authorities and that they went to ensure Dylan's well-being. Speaker 0 describes Dylan's behavior, including holding her vagina and being scared of Speaker 1. They express guilt for not being there to protect Dylan. Speaker 0 concludes by saying they don't understand how Speaker 1 can live with their actions.

Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss the sterilization of children. Speaker 0 claims that children are being sterilized and offers to show consent forms as evidence. Speaker 1 disagrees, stating that children are not being sterilized. Speaker 0 questions why protecting children from irreversible harm is considered fascist. Speaker 1 argues that without necessary care, children would be miserable and potentially suicidal. Speaker 0 requests evidence to support this claim, but Speaker 1 does not provide any. The conversation ends with Speaker 1 accusing Speaker 0 of propagating anti-LGBTQ propaganda.

Speaker 0 argues against psychiatry, claiming it is a pseudoscience and criticizes the use of drugs and electric shock therapy. Speaker 1 counters by mentioning that some people have found relief through antidepressants and counseling. Speaker 0 dismisses this, stating that drugs only mask the problem and that there is no such thing as a chemical imbalance. Speaker 1 questions the term "postpartum depression," to which Speaker 0 clarifies that he believes drugs are not the answer and can be dangerous. Speaker 1 suggests that some treatments may work for certain individuals, but Speaker 0 dismisses this, accusing Speaker 1 of not understanding the history of psychiatry. The conversation ends with Speaker 0 criticizing Speaker 1's lack of knowledge about Ritalin.

Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 are discussing discharge rights at a hospital. The core issue is that there is no doctor’s order allowing the baby to go home, while the mother believes she can leave without such an order. Key points: - The mother argues “the mommy can go without doctor’s order, but not the baby,” and asks why the baby cannot accompany the mom. - Speaker 1 insists “there’s nothing wrong with the baby” and asks to “get the doctor up here so we can be discharged.” - Speaker 0 repeats: “There is no order for the baby to go home.” Speaker 1 counters, “There doesn’t have to be one.” - They have been "going through this for, like, the last hour," and they want to leave. Speaker 1 asks, “How long is it gonna be before the doctor gets up here?” and they say “We are calling the doctor right now. It depends on how when you get a callback.” - A hospital staff member (Speaker 2) asks to speak outside with Speaker 1, saying, “Sir, can I talk to you outside real quick?” and then notes a need for discretion regarding victims. - The routine difficulty is clarified: “There is no doctor's order for the baby to go home.” Yet Speaker 1 states, “There’s not,” and they reiterate their desire to leave: “We wanna leave.” - They discuss the process: Speaker 0 says, “Yes. We are [calling],” and Speaker 1 says, “Get the order… so we can leave.” Speaker 1 adds, “And so we can leave.” - Regarding consequences or external involvement, Speaker 1 asks about CPS: “CPS? No. They didn't? No. Nothing about CPS. Nothing.” - The dialogue emphasizes that the mother believes she should be allowed to discharge, and the baby’s discharge requires a doctor’s order, which they are not obtaining at the moment. Overall, the conversation centers on the discrepancy between the mother’s belief that she can discharge without a doctor’s order and the hospital’s apparent requirement for a formal order for the baby to be discharged. They are actively attempting to contact the doctor to issue the necessary order, while expressing frustration at the delay. CPS is mentioned but not involved, with reassurance that there has been no CPS involvement. The mother asserts that the mother can leave, but the baby cannot without the doctor’s order, and Speaker 1 keeps pressing to obtain that order so they can discharge.

Speaker 0 confronts the other person, accusing them of mistreating Dylan, a baby. The other person denies any knowledge of this and claims that Dylan has been lying. They also mention that they were unaware that the doctor had to report such incidents to the authorities. Speaker 0 expresses concern about Dylan's behavior, mentioning that she walks around holding her vagina and sleeps with them out of fear. They feel guilty for not being there to protect Dylan and blame the other person for not helping.

The conversation revolves around the topic of transgender children and the use of medical interventions. Speaker 1 argues that there is no such thing as a transgender child and that they should be accepted as they are. Speaker 0 disagrees, stating that some children may benefit from medical interventions if they choose to pursue them. The discussion becomes heated, with Speaker 1 accusing Speaker 0 of promoting child abuse and Speaker 0 accusing Speaker 1 of spreading misinformation. The conversation ends with both parties expressing their differing views and a lack of trust in each other's arguments.

Speaker 0 confronts Speaker 1 for stealing money meant for their child's heart surgery. Speaker 1 dismisses the issue and focuses on why Speaker 0 didn't take them to a concert. Speaker 0 emphasizes that the surgery is their priority and expresses anger towards Speaker 1 for using the money for something trivial. Speaker 1 suggests asking Speaker 0's baby mom for answers, but Speaker 0 dismisses the idea, stating that she has nothing to do with the situation.

Speaker 0 describes being twenty-one months into the protocol and nearing completion. They’ve finished all frequent IV chemo and now only go in once a month for treatment, with oral daily chemo at home, resulting in much less treatment than a few months earlier. Speaker 1 asks if the alternative treatments, in addition to traditional treatment, are helping the child handle side effects. Speaker 0 confirms: “So much better. Okay. So much better.” They note a test result when doctors questioned why the child didn’t seem sicker or look worse; they backed off on some treatments to observe, and within less than a week the child experienced nausea, headaches, bone pain, and other common symptoms. They showed doctors this pattern, demonstrating that when they are not using supplements and daily support, the child becomes sick quickly. They say doctors were skeptical of their approach. Tensions rose around February after they presented a meta-analysis suggesting that some chemo is no longer shown to be helpful and may be more harmful due to toxicity. That, they say, was the last straw. They recount that doctors began to push harder and claimed they would refer to Child Protective Services (CPS) if the child did not look sicker soon. Doctors started testing at every visit for the presence of the oral chemo in the child’s blood, and it’s consistently present because it is given daily. They hired a nurse privately to come to their home at bedtime to administer the meds, and they record the process with video of the child eating the meds; the nurse signs an electronic log verifying administration. When conflicts intensified about a month ago, they had an attorney, who sent a certified letter to the clinic with evidence: the nurse’s documentation, lab results showing the drug in the blood, and observed side effects that were minimal and manageable. They point out there are other variables affecting the child’s ANC; they have twenty-one months of records showing the child’s ANC was sometimes higher even when there were no home meds. They claim the medication is metabolized faster when the child drinks milk. They mention living on an organic farm with their own cows, and that the child drinks milk. They note that taking vitamin D can affect ANC. Speaker 1 remarks on the extraordinary situation: instead of learning what is enabling the child to have fewer side effects, the state is threatening to remove the child. They ask if someone reported them and how they protected the child. Speaker 0 explains that they were told during a September visit that if the child’s ANC wasn’t below 1,500 by the October 17 visit, they would refer to CPS for suspected medication noncompliance, which would be considered neglect. Speaker 1 reiterates the surprise at labeling medication noncompliance and the state deciding what the child should receive, calling it utterly ridiculous.

The speakers discuss the perceived truth about pediatric vaccination incentives and the behavior of pediatricians. The conversation opens with a question about whether there is an incentive for pediatricians to promote vaccination, and the back-and-forth suggests uncertainty about this issue. One participant mentions that Dr. Paul Thomas has produced a substantial video on the topic and notes that many other pediatricians have followed his lead, adding that perhaps Dr. Hooker could provide a sharper answer. A subsequent speaker clarifies the proposed mechanism of incentives, stating that pediatricians are typically incentivized directly by HMOs. The claim is that HMOs buy and sell vaccines, making vaccines a big business for HMOs. The incentive, according to this account, is usually between $200 and $600 per fully vaccinated patient, as long as their vaccines meet a required percentage threshold for the practice. The speaker contends that some pediatricians can make upwards of a million dollars a year solely from these incentives, underscoring the potential scale of earnings. The discussion then turns to empirical observations or anecdotes, with the claim that pediatricians often fire patients who refuse to get vaccinated. This is presented as a recurrent story that the speakers have heard repeatedly. In addition to the firing of patients, the speakers recount alarming claims attributed to some physicians. They mention the “lies that the pediatrician tell” about dire consequences of not vaccinating, such as “our baby will die” if vitamin K is not given at birth, or that the baby will bleed out before it gets to the car. They also reference the belief expressed by some that “if you don’t get the HPV vaccine, then you will die of cancer.” These stories are described as being told repeatedly by parents who have encountered such warnings. The segment closes with a rhetorical and emotional question about accountability: how can doctors get away with lying like that to parents? The speakers convey a sense of concern and frustration about the repetition of these claims and the impact they have on parents who are trying to make informed decisions for their children.

Speaker 0 confronts a pharmacist about their son's hospitalization due to myocarditis after receiving a COVID jab. Speaker 0 is upset that his wife was not informed about this potential side effect. Speaker 1 explains that they may not disclose the side effect to avoid scaring parents away from vaccinating their children. Speaker 0 expresses disbelief and insists that parents should be given accurate information to make informed decisions.

The speaker's son was diagnosed with an infection, but the nurse practitioner refused to give medication. The speaker questioned this decision and began recording the interaction. The situation escalated, with security being called. The speaker expressed frustration and threatened to share the video with others.

Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 exchange a tense, fragmented interaction in a waiting room scenario. Speaker 0 expresses frustration about waiting two hours for a specialist and acknowledges the overall overload in healthcare, the low pay, and the sometimes rude behavior they perceive, while emphasizing that their own intent is simply to know when the doctor will arrive. Speaker 1 reassures that the doctor is on the way and asks for a little more patience, noting they are currently working amid the same pressures. Speaker 0 seeks a rough estimate of the doctor’s arrival time, to which Speaker 1 responds that they are busy with work. Speaker 0 again tries to engage, and Speaker 1 shifts to a broader complaint, stating that they are trying to do their job despite enormous workload, low pay, and sometimes quite rude behavior. Speaker 0 acknowledges understanding but reiterates the two-hour wait. Speaker 1 interrupts Speaker 0 to continue making a point about the environment, saying, “Luister eens, wij proberen gewoon ons werk te doen. Ondanks de enorme werkdruk in de zorg. Ondanks de lage beloningen, ondanks de soms nogal onbeschofte” (Listen, we are simply trying to do our jobs, despite the enormous workload in healthcare, despite the low pay, despite the sometimes rather rude). Speaker 0 again mentions the two-hour wait. Speaker 1 then brings up aggression they have faced, including verbal abuse and physical aggression, stating, “Ondanks alle agressie die wij over ons heen krijgen. De scheldpartijen, de fysieke” (Despite all the aggression we receive, the swearing, the physical). Speaker 0 denies being aggressive and clarifies that they only want to know roughly when the doctor will have time. The exchange intensifies as Speaker 1 accuses Speaker 0 of having an aggressive tone and warns that if Speaker 0 does not sit calmly, they will call security. Speaker 0 protests that there is nothing wrong with their tone, recounting the two-hour wait, and Speaker 1 reiterates concerns about tone, insisting that Speaker 0’s tone is not acceptable. Speaker 1 ultimately declares that enough is enough and that aggression toward care workers must end, concluding with “Handen af ten zorg. Toch?” (Hands off the care, right?) and a momentary pause that implies security involvement. The interaction centers on a stressful delay in care, the pressures faced by healthcare workers, and a conflict over tone and boundaries amid a high-demand, high-stress environment.

Speaker 0 questions if anyone was forced to get vaccinated, specifically referring to a comment made by Dr. Kuat. Speaker 1 confirms that they made the comment and states their belief that nobody was forced to receive the vaccine. They explain that mandates and requirements are determined by governments and health authorities, and that individuals were given the choice to get vaccinated or not. Speaker 0 disagrees, suggesting that many Australians would disagree with Speaker 1's statement.

Speaker 0 asks Speaker 1 why they are there repeatedly. Speaker 1 explains they are there to have conversations and wear a sign about children and puberty blockers. Speaker 2 asks Speaker 1 to move for their safety due to angry people nearby. Speaker 1 questions why they should move instead of dealing with the violent individuals. Speaker 2 states they are there to keep Speaker 1 safe and suggests moving to prevent a breach of the peace. Speaker 1 argues that they are not causing the aggression. Speaker 2 insists that Speaker 1's presence is causing the breach. Speaker 1 continues to stand their ground. Speaker 2 agrees to speak to the aggressive individuals if they approach Speaker 1 again.

The speakers discuss the idea of children being able to consent to gender affirming surgery. Speaker 0 suggests that if someone believes in this, then there is nothing else they wouldn't believe children can consent to. Speaker 1 argues that even some adults struggle to understand their own desires, but Speaker 0 counters by saying that children today are more educated and have more resources. Speaker 1 questions Speaker 0's obsession with other people's children, emphasizing that parents should have the right to make decisions for their own kids. Speaker 0 acknowledges that children don't fully understand things because they are children.

A person confronts a pharmacist about their child developing myocarditis after receiving a COVID vaccine. The person is upset that the pharmacist did not inform them about the potential side effects. The pharmacist explains that they don't want to scare parents and that the benefits of vaccination outweigh the risks. The person argues that no healthy children have died from COVID and accuses the pharmacist of not warning people about the dangers. The conversation becomes heated and the person threatens legal action. The pharmacist maintains that they cannot make decisions about what information to provide. The conversation ends with the person expressing anger and frustration towards the pharmacist.

The speaker is against drugs and psychiatric abuses like electric shock and drugging children without knowing the effects. They claim Ritalin is now a street drug and that psychiatry masks problems without addressing the root cause. They assert there is no such thing as a chemical imbalance and that drugs are not the answer, particularly mind-altering antipsychotic drugs. The speaker challenges the other person's knowledge of Ritalin and the research behind chemical imbalance theories, questioning the lack of medical tests to determine appropriate Ritalin dosage. They suggest the other person should be more responsible in understanding the issue, especially when discussing it on platforms like the Today Show, rather than being reasonable about something they don't fully know.

In this exchange, Speaker 0 challenges a doctor’s stance on treating a child for ADHD. The doctor states, “this is what’s recommended for your kid. You have to put your kid on these meds,” saying, “I’m trying to do you a favor. Not even do you a favor. Do what’s best for your child,” and adds, “if you don’t follow these instructions, ma’am, I will be forced to call CPS.” The parent presses back, asking, “You’re forcing me? You’re saying either I put my kid on medication that they don’t need I will be forced to call CPS,” and asserts that the doctor is jeopardizing the child’s future. The parent clarifies that the child has “not shown any symptoms of ADHD” and requests a second opinion. The doctor replies, “I am your second opinion. I’m the doctor,” and when the parent insists, “No. You’re not,” the doctor insists that they are the authority: “I’m your doctor. If you don’t trust your doctor, then you shouldn’t be coming here.” The parent questions trust, suggesting that if they trusted the doctor, they wouldn’t feel threatened by CPS, to which the doctor responds that it’s not a threat, but an effort to do what’s best for both the parent and child. The doctor reiterates, “If you love your kid enough, then you will listen to my…” as the conversation ends, with the implication that the doctor believes compliance is essential for the child’s welfare. The exchange centers on a clash between parental autonomy and medical recommendations, with CPS being invoked as a potential consequence for not adhering to the prescribed ADHD medication plan.

Speaker 0 questions if it was Dr. Puert who made the comment that no one was forced to have the vaccination. Dr. Puert confirms that it was indeed him who made the comment. Speaker 0 then challenges Dr. Puert's statement, mentioning that during COVID-19 in Australia, people, including nurses and doctors, were required to get vaccinated to keep their jobs. Dr. Puert maintains his belief that nobody was forced to get vaccinated, stating that mandates or requirements are determined by governments and health authorities. Speaker 0 disagrees, suggesting that many Australians would not agree with Dr. Puert's perspective.

The conversation opens with Speaker 0 making a provocative claim that everything people experience, including rape and addiction, is attracted into their life, and that the people involved in rape or pedophilia are attracted to those acts. Speaker 1 pushes back, asking for clarification about cases of pedophilia and how these dynamics should be understood. Speaker 0 continues by saying that the children are attracted to the pedophile, and Speaker 1 challenges them to pursue the line of thought by asking to go there. They discuss how labels of good and bad are often tied to who one chooses to side with. Speaker 0 expresses discomfort with the implication of the discussion and provides a hypothetical: if someone assaulted his wife at home, he would “forcibly stop” them and would value stopping the act “100% certainly.” He argues that morality at the moment would drive one’s reaction to harm, and asserts that when one sees something as evil, one would act to stop it, emphasizing that it is evil in one’s perception. Speaker 0 then asserts a universal standard: it is not acceptable to beat a child to a pulp or to sexually assault a child. He argues that there is something fundamental inside humans—a driving force toward life, love, freedom, and the experience of living in the world—and when someone intentionally interferes with that, there is an obligation to try to prevent or stop them. He adds that one can override impulses, acknowledging personal temptation to harm that has been resisted. Speaker 1 accuses Speaker 0 of repressing desires and then attacking his customers publicly. He suggests Speaker 0 is taking information that contradicts his stated beliefs and refuses to broadcast it because it conflicts with his system, describing it as a fight that Speaker 0 is ready to engage in. The tension is evident as Speaker 0’s and Speaker 1’s reactions become increasingly heated; Speaker 0 notes that Speaker 1’s hands are shaking. Speaker 1 criticizes the stance of not exposing certain information on the show, arguing that it challenges his beliefs and that he is unwilling to “pacify” his research for anyone. He asserts that there are upsides to events, even to the murder of children, stating that there are upsides to it. Speaker 0 concludes with an abrupt decision to stop the discussion: “I think we’re gonna have to stop here, John.”

The speaker's ex-wife wants their son on puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones, and the speaker is prohibited from discussing transgender issues with his child or the lawsuit the mother filed against him. He is also barred from contacting his child's medical professionals. The speaker says his child is in distress, and after a brief Zoom interview, the TRUE Center admitted him and contacted the insurance company. A doctor put an implant in his child. The speaker intends to fight this decision to save his child, because that's what parents and fathers do.

Speaker 0 describes their doula team’s situation during a birth: the husband has left with the baby because the baby, Lisa, was asked to leave, leaving the mother to give birth alone in the room. Speaker 1 confirms they are supporting a doula client who desires their presence. Speaker 2 then informs them that the nurses are asking them to leave, citing visitation privilege and requesting the policy on visitation. Speaker 0 asks whether this decision is being made before considering the impact on care. Speaker 2 reiterates that visitation privileges could conflict with care, and implies that once competing with care arises, the nurses’ concern becomes an issue. Speaker 1 questions how their presence impedes care. Speaker 2 declines to elaborate, stating that it’s about visitation grounds. Speaker 0 notes that the mother will be alone in the room as a result, since the husband left with the baby. Speaker 1 expresses confusion over the nurse’s stance, stating they have made no medical interference and are simply present to support and assist with hip squeezes, not to intervene medically. Speaker 0 says they have been making their own consent and decisions, and that the mother has no one else with her. Speaker 1 asserts that the nurses’ grounds to remove them are unfounded, and emphasizes that the mother can speak for herself; they are not speaking for her. The overall tension centers on whether the doulas’ presence constitutes medical interference or is a permissible support under visitation policies, with the mother at risk of being alone during childbirth.

Speaker 0 believes vaccines are the cause of all disease. Speaker 1 disagrees, calling this a bogus statement, and claims that studies have only looked at two of 36 shots and one of 35 vaccines. Speaker 1 asserts that it is irrefutable that vaccines cause autism and accuses doctors of not reading studies and misleading parents. Speaker 0 says that Speaker 1 is antagonizing the medical community and Dr. Sears. Speaker 0 states the show is about helping kids and that yelling only causes anger. Speaker 0 feels attacked for being asked to defend their stance.

The speakers engage in a heated debate about transgender children and medical interventions. Speaker 1 argues that there is no such thing as a transgender child and that they should be encouraged to embrace their biological gender. Speaker 0 disagrees, stating that children should have the option to pursue medical interventions if they choose to do so. The conversation becomes increasingly confrontational, with Speaker 1 accusing Speaker 0 of promoting child abuse and Speaker 0 accusing Speaker 1 of spreading misinformation. The debate touches on topics such as puberty blockers, hormone therapy, and detransitioning. The conversation ends with both speakers expressing their frustration and disagreement.

Speaker 0 questions why they should leave their family and who will care for their patients. They believe they have the right to proper healthcare and didn't spend years in medical school just to think about themselves. They ask if this is the reason they became a doctor.