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Vaccines don't cause autism. The science is clear. Vaccines don't cause autism. Vaccines do not cause autism. I do not deny that we need to do more about autism, but it has nothing to do with vaccines. We have thoroughly debunked any association between autism and these vaccines. Robert, it is nearly consensus in the scientific community that there's no link there. To deny a mountain of scientific evidence, which has already taught us that the combination of measles, mumps, rubella, or MMR vaccine doesn't cause autism, Vimerosal, an ethylmercury containing preservative that wasn't a number of vaccines doesn't cause autism, and that too many vaccines given too soon, if you will, doesn't also cause autism. We know that the schedule is safe. Are there peer reviewed scientific reports that indicate a link between No. Between vaccines and autism? No. Not only is there not a peer reviewed work, this is probably the most studied public health issue involving children. Vaccines are really the one thing we have looked at as causing autism. The Institutes of Medicine, the Centers for Disease Control have repeatedly investigated this. Vaccines do not cause autism. We don't need more research. At some point, enough is enough. It's fine to continue to collect data, but at some point, you have to take note for an answer. We're not sure what causes autism, but we know that vaccines do not. Mountains of evidence. No, you know, this has been looked at extensively. Nothing's been more studied in the world than this connection between vaccines and autism. We'd heard it. We've heard it for decades. You know, actually almost a century now, if you want to get into it. This has been the battle cry of the pharmaceutical industry and every shill that works for them. But whether you know it or not all the way back in 2020 for those of you that were watching then we actually disproved this myth right then. Debunked it with a lawsuit where we went at the CDC and said really if the head of your page on the CDC website says vaccines plural meaning all vaccines do not cause us to do we have that original website. This is what it said: vaccines do not cause autism. There it is. All vaccines doesn't say one of them or two of them all vaccines by the plural s at the end of vaccines. If vaccines do not cause autism will you please provide us with all of the evidence and studies that show that vaccines don't cause autism. Send us that evidence. Well they didn't and we sued them and we went to court. Back in 2020, we won the case. Here it looks like in the document. They gave us the list. It's actually 20 studies. 20 total studies make up the entire list of what they look to when they say that these childhood vaccines, the five, and the cumulative effects of them given in the first six months of life, do not cause autism. The first one is an MMR study. The second one an MMR and a DTaP study. The next ones are MMR, these four are MMR and Thimerosal studies. Then the next all the way through to 20 are all just Thimerosal studies. Lastly, we have one antigen study. Of the 20 studies, the first MMR studies are not in the first six months of life; Thimerosal studies show none of the vaccines in the first six months of life had Thimerosal. There was only one study relevant to the first six months of life, the IOM review of the DTaP vaccine, and it said there are no studies that prove or disprove the association with autism. Therefore, that was the only one that was relevant to the first six months of life, and it proved that they had no answers. And so for everyone that's ever sent Mountain of Evidence, that's been a lie. We won in court. It's a lie. You can take that to the bank. And actually just months after winning that lawsuit, that was in May, by August they pulled down the statement vaccines do not cause autism. We celebrated it but five months later it went back up and we've been stuck there with this propaganda statement that have no basis in science up until last night when this happened to the website. Let's see the new page. Here it is. It now says autism and vaccines and right under that it has the key points. So we read those key points. The claim vaccines do not cause autism is not an evidence-based claim because studies have not ruled out the possibility that infant vaccines cause autism, meaning those vaccines in the first six months of life. Meaning the IOM lawsuit that proved that. Studies supporting a link have been ignored by health authorities. HHS has launched a comprehensive assessment of the causes of autism, including investigations on plausible biologic mechanisms and potential causal links. It does have an explanatory statement I want to read right now. It says this about why you will still see it with an asterisk the header vaccines do not cause autism has not been completely removed due to an agreement with the chair of the U.S. Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee that it would remain on the CDC website. Apparently, this was that backroom deal that was made with Senator Cassidy, of course, when Robert Kennedy Jr. was up there. But now you can see on the page it is clear we are making the statement or it's being made by the CDC that this is not a scientific statement and so ultimately this is a massive change. I tweeted out about it today and to every parent of an autistic child that's been out there. For every one of you that did interviews, whether in the film Vaxxed or when we toured the nation and for everyone that's ever been gaslit, the days of gaslighting are over. We are now moving into science-based, evidence-based statements on the CDC website. It's a beautiful day.

There's concern about the lack of good data on vaccine adverse effects. The CDC's surveillance system captures less than 1% of vaccine injuries, which is inexcusable. Congress and the Institute of Medicine have repeatedly ordered the CDC to improve it. Now, with Kennedy sworn in, there's a new commission and a congressional caucus to address these issues, targeting big agriculture, pharma, and food. The HHS Secretary is announcing a new, more accurate vaccine injury reporting system designed to be more transparent than the old one and release secret studies. The goal is to revamp the system to reveal the real picture of vaccine injuries and encourage doctors to report them. This approach aims to strategically show the data and address problems rather than outright banning anything, similar to discrediting fraudulent systems. We're coming for the globalists' assets.

The speaker says RFK Jr. aims to alter the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program. The law firm he hired specializes in this program, established in 1986 and in effect by 1988. He will claim the CDC hid evidence about aluminum adjuvants and try to add autism, eczema, or asthma to the compensable list, or remove vaccines from the program, leaving them to civil litigation. He reportedly wants to eliminate vaccines, arguing we traded infectious diseases for chronic diseases. He says chronic disease incidence in children is one in thirty two, implying vaccines cause autism, despite studies. At a confirmation hearing, Cassidy pressed him to admit vaccines don’t cause autism; he cited Mawson and colleagues claiming Florida Medicaid children were more likely to develop autism after vaccination; the paper was not published, not peer reviewed, and was flawed. This is the beginning; as HHS Secretary he could end vaccine manufacturing.

Speaker 0 frames the issue as 'the corruption of science' and the 'capture of the agencies' by pharmaceutical industries, stating the goal is to restore integrity and credibility to science. Speaker 1 cites a CDC internal study: 'black boys who got the vaccine on time had a two hundred and sixty percent greater chance of getting an autism diagnosis than children who waited.' He adds that 'The chief chief scientist on that, Doctor. William Thompson, the senior said vaccine safety science at CDC, was ordered to destroy that data. And then they published it without that fact.' Finally, he asserts, 'So, you know that story. And you know of hundreds of stories like that. It happens all the time. We are being lied to by these agencies, and we're gonna change that right now.'

The speaker believes someone is serious about MAHA and concerned that vaccines cause autism, a claim he previously made but then stopped. Robert Kennedy also believes this and commissioned a study of existing data, specifically US government datasets like CMS, Medicare, and Medicaid. The study aims to detect a connection between the expansion of the vaccine schedule and the rise in autism. While a connection cannot be definitively stated, it seems likely to the speaker, and the president is reportedly concerned about it.

The discussion centers on the credibility of vaccine safety claims made by various health organizations and the FDA. One speaker argues that vaccines undergo rigorous testing, while the other contends that no vaccine has ever completed a long-term placebo-controlled trial before being licensed. They express distrust in the FDA, citing past issues with drugs like Vioxx and opioids, suggesting that the FDA misled doctors and the public about their safety. The speaker believes that pharmaceutical companies influence these agencies, leading to misinformation about vaccine safety. The goal is to address and rectify this perceived corruption.

Speaker 0 presented a chart and asserted that due to “radical transparency” they have access to close to 11,000,000 pages showing signals that were hidden in VAERS analyses. The speaker stated they uncovered that a signal on myocarditis was hidden, and they also recently uncovered a signal on ischemic stroke for people aged 65 and older in 2022–2023. They claimed both signals were downplayed, but that a hearing would be held next week and a draft report would be issued in conjunction with that hearing. The speaker alleged that Peter Marks was made aware on 03/26/2021 that the inventors of the algorithm analyzing VAERS data were going to mask adverse events, and that by using a different system they uncovered 49 examples of extreme masking, including 25 significant adverse events such as sudden cardiac death, Bell’s palsy, and pulmonary infarction. The speaker emphasized that this is not a matter requiring a sophisticated mathematical model to identify safety signals, stating that the chart shows deaths associated with vaccines dating back to 1990, with several hundred per year initially, and that in 2021 there were over twenty thousand deaths in a five-year span, contrasting with the FDA’s assertions that no signal exists. They characterized these as signals screaming that there has been a covering up to the present day. The speaker claimed that a number of individuals involved in the cover-up continue to work within HHS, the CDC, and the FDA. They requested a commitment that those people will be made available for interviews, and stated that they would subpoena others as needed to dig into the matter, announcing an intention to scrutinize the massive government apparatus and its handling of vaccine safety signals. The speaker concluded by reiterating their commitment to pursue interviews and investigations.

Speaker 0 argues that "Big pharma is just not gonna sit there and go, this is wonderful. Bobby Kennedy, who's an anti vax wingnut, just canceled the most promising technology out there." He cites BARDA actions—"cancellation, descoping of various contracts and solicitations relate to mRNA vaccine development activities"—and says "We reviewed the science, listened to the experts enacted." He calls the "buried lead" that "you have to show the receipts here," warning that "the companies out there that are publicly traded" will pursue "massive lawsuits" and that critics are "a bunch of vaccine wingnuts." He urges HHS/BARDA to present "what we looked at" and "the underlying science" to back their conclusions, which he says are "180 degrees from what people have been spoon fed by the most credentialed class in the country." Speaker 1 adds that "over 3,500 peer reviewed papers" show harms and can be found at react19.org; "continued science comes out showing the harms." We should have done this research before immunization. Pharma will come back "guns blazing." We must "unify" scientists and, in court, "make the case that this was a good decision." He calls the stance an "opening salvo" and predicts the battle "is gonna be massive."

In 2016 and again in March 2017 at the White House, the speaker met with someone who considered forming a commission to investigate the potential negative effects of vaccines. This individual was being advised by Robert Kennedy, Jr., who claimed vaccines were causing harm. The speaker advised against this course of action, stating that it would be a mistake.

The speaker criticizes Mr. Kennedy for spreading disinformation about COVID vaccines. They mention an incident where Kennedy used unvetted data from VARs to claim that vaccines were killing people, leading to vaccine hesitancy and unnecessary deaths. The speaker calls this science denial and questions Kennedy's credibility. In response, Kennedy argues that VARs is an unreliable system for reporting vaccine adverse events due to voluntary reporting. He claims that CDC's own studies show that VARs undercounts vaccine injuries by a hundredfold. Kennedy also mentions a Harvard study that developed a more accurate system, but CDC allegedly shut it down and refused to address the issue. Kennedy questions why CDC doesn't have a better system in place.

Speaker 0 describes a study on the hepatitis B vaccine, stating it is loaded with mercury during the first thirty days of life and comparing infants who received it in that period to those who did not or who received it later. He claims that the relative risk of smoking a pack a day for twenty years leading to lung cancer is ten, with a figure of 11.35, and attributes this to Thimerosal. Speaker 1 asks if the claim is about Thimerosal, and Speaker 0 confirms, then recounts a story that motivated his involvement: a “secret meeting” held to avoid on-campus exposure to freedom of information requests. The meeting occurred at Simpson Wood, a remote Methodist retreat center on the Chattahoochee River in Norcross, Georgia. Over two days, 52 attendees included major vaccine companies, regulatory agencies (WHO, CDC, FDA, NIH, HHS), and leaders in academic vaccinology. Megan recorded the first day, and Speaker 0 says he obtained the transcripts in 2005, calling them horrific. He invites listeners to read them on the Children’s Health Events site to judge for themselves, arguing the transcripts reveal “panjarums of the American healthcare system” and that regulators claimed the science was bulletproof while suggesting vaccines cause autism. Speaker 1 notes that Speaker 0 has previously claimed the conference revealed that vaccines cause autism and that data should be buried, referencing a January 2011 Rolling Stone article and a Salon piece that later withdrew the article. He mentions an eighteen-month US Senate committee investigation that found allegations of CDC misconduct unsubstantiated and concluded there was no cover-up. Speaker 0 clarifies it was a two-year committee hearing led by Senator Burton at the Governmental Oversight Committee, and asserts that vaccines do cause autism, while encouraging listeners to research the science themselves rather than trust him or the organizations cited. Speaker 0 then attacks the credibility and funding of CDC, NIH, and the American Academy of Pediatrics, claiming they are “bought and paid for,” with statistics he cites: FDA is funded 45% by the pharmaceutical industry; the AAP allegedly gets 80% of its money from industry; and the CDC spends 4,900,000,000 of its 12,000,000,000 annual budget. Speaker 1 pushes back by noting that parents within these organizations vaccinate their own children against vaccines that include thimerosal, asking rhetorically whether they are willingly harming their children, and suggesting a broader government conspiracy. Speaker 0 then directs Speaker 1 to the movie Dopesick for further context, contrasting it with opioid prescriptions, and asserts that doctors treated patients and their own children with opioids because they believed FDA guidance. Overall, the dialogue centers on thimerosal in early vaccines, alleged hidden meetings and data suppression, controversial media coverage of vaccines-autism links, and critical claims about regulatory agency funding and conduct, culminating in comparisons to pharmaceutical and medical industry dynamics.

Everything regarding vaccine policy will change due to better information. No vaccines given in the first six months of life have been tested, except for the DTP vaccine. According to the Institute of Medicine, the one study done on DTP found a link, but it was thrown out because it was based on the CDC's surveillance system, which they deemed no good. The speaker questions why the CDC lacks a functional surveillance system, especially since vaccines are exempt from prelicensing safety testing. The CDC's system captures fewer than one percent of vaccine injuries, rendering it worthless. The speaker pledges to fix the system and follow the science, including publishing all data sets, replicating studies, and publishing peer reviews, which the CDC has never done. This will provide the public with real answers for the first time.

Autism is caused by vaccines, according to the speaker. The CDC's VirTrak study from 1989 showed a 1350% elevated risk for autism among children who received the hepatitis B vaccine in their first 30 days. A series of 13 studies were allegedly done by people paid by the CDC to create the illusion that vaccines don't cause autism. The chief scientist, Paul Thornsen, is a fugitive wanted by Interpol for stealing millions from the CDC that he claimed to use for the study. His study is considered fraudulent but has not been retracted. The speaker claims there are hundreds of studies linking autism and neurological injuries to vaccines, citing a book with 1,400 references and over 400 studies. The speaker believes the CDC is a dishonest organization owned by the pharmaceutical industry and promotes propaganda that vaccines don't cause autism.

World governments have harmed millions without apology. The speaker believes vaccines cause autism, but mainstream media won't discuss it. They gathered data from 10,000 parents showing a link between vaccines and autism, ADHD, and other health issues. More shots lead to poorer health in children.

The speaker states that vaccine policy will change due to better information. They claim that none of the vaccines given in the first six months of life have been tested, except for the DTP vaccine, which a study linked to issues, but was dismissed due to problems with the CDC's surveillance system. The speaker asserts the CDC lacks a functional surveillance system to capture vaccine injuries, with their own study showing it captures less than 1% of injuries. They plan to fix this by implementing a functional surveillance system, using data management, and providing answers to the public. The speaker promises to follow the science, use gold standard science, publish all datasets, replicate studies, and publish peer reviews, which they claim the CDC has never done, to provide real answers.

The speaker discusses the vaccine's link to death and disability, citing over 37,000 deaths globally reported on VAERS. They criticize regulators for not addressing this issue earlier and mention a conversation with Francis Collins about vaccine-related deaths. The speaker also mentions a conversation with Dr. Redfield, who admitted downplaying vaccine injuries to avoid creating hesitancy. Dr. Redfield acknowledged that there are more injuries than reported.

In early 2017, the speaker and Robert Kennedy Jr. met with Tony Fauci and Francis Collins at the NIH to discuss vaccine safety concerns. They questioned the absence of double-blind placebo safety trials for childhood vaccines. According to the speaker, Fauci and Collins admitted that such trials are not conducted because they would be unethical. The speaker proposed a comparative study using the Vaccine Safety Data Link (VSD) to compare the health outcomes of vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals, assessing rates of cancer, diabetes, ADD/ADHD, autism, Tourette's, lupus, and leukemia. The speaker claims this study could be completed quickly, but alleges that NIH officials stated they would never conduct it. The speaker suggests that if vaccines were proven safe through such a study, concerns about vaccine safety would disappear. The speaker believes the study has been done, but the data was manipulated to make vaccinated people appear healthier.

Kendall asks for an explanation of the process by which the MMR vaccine causes autism, referencing the movie Vaxxed. Speaker 2 responds that they are currently researching those questions, as parents and physicians have reported children developing autism immediately after the MMR vaccine. The speaker claims studies that should have been done long ago were not. Instead, the speaker alleges that captured researchers at the CDC, mainly people who work for the pharmaceutical industry, produced bad epidemiological studies. The speaker asserts that these studies deliberately avoided comparing health outcomes in vaccinated versus unvaccinated groups. Speaker 0 states that this is one of the things they are studying now with gold standard science. Speaker 2 confirms they are doing gold standard science, which includes replication. They are allocating about 20% of their budget to replicating studies. Speaker 0 explains replication as an independent group repeating a study with the same parameters and data sets to achieve the same result. Speaker 2 agrees.

the corruption of science, which I believe you just said. That is almost your number one goal. Right? Is try to bring integrity and credibility back to science, which has been corrupted by the people who pay for it, by federal health agencies being captured by pharmaceutical industries, by big pharma, by big food. In 02/2002, CDC did an internal study of Atlanta, Fulton County, Georgia children looked at children who got the MLR vaccine on time and compared those to kids who got them later. The data from that study showed that black boys who got the vaccine on time had a two sixty percent greater chance of getting an autism diagnosis than children who waited. The chief scientist on that, Doctor. William Thompson, the senior vaccine safety science at CDC, was ordered to come into a room with four other co authors by his boss, Frank DeStefano, who’s the head of the immunization safety press, ordered to destroy that data. And then they published it without that fact. It happens all the time. We are being lied to by these agencies. And we're going to change that right now.

Speaker 1 says they believed more people were becoming aware that vaccines cause autism and sudden infant death syndrome in certain cases, that many vaccines are never proven safe or effective, and that approvals occur under “fraudulent conditions,” citing laws and authorizations such as the PREP Act and emergency use authorization for COVID vaccines. They argue the vaccine industry is “a complete and total fraud” and ask whether that realization is happening in local government or schools. Speaker 0 replies that in states including Connecticut, New York, California, Illinois, New Jersey, and Massachusetts, the situation still resembles 2019 because it is framed as a political issue. They claim left-leaning officials will “do anything” to thwart what they call an agenda, despite what they describe as “solid, peer-reviewed scientific data,” “mountains of evidence,” and congressional and Senate hearings. They reference testimony by Aaron Siri, Robert F. Kennedy as HHS, Robert Malone, and others, and say Senator Ron Johnson held hearings. Speaker 0 asserts that when they tried to testify, their testimony was muted and cut off during a public health committee process. Speaker 0 says officials on those committees continue to claim there is no evidence vaccines cause autism, that vaccines are safe and effective, and that vaccines are the best way to protect public health and achieve herd immunity. They also mention that these officials still wear masks in legislative chambers. Speaker 1 responds that the persistence of such positions raises the question of how society can function with “ignorant, illiterate people” in charge of legislative processes. Speaker 0 says they no longer live in Connecticut and presents two options: voting them out is not expected because of a supermajority and because, in their view, many voters are affected by election fraud, not alive, not legal citizens, or are “blinded followers.” They state the conflict is framed as “my team, us versus them.” They say they do not think the situation can be won politically in Connecticut, so options are moving or fighting back in courts. Speaker 0 says they moved but still wants to fight in court for states including California, Connecticut, and New York, citing friends and family who cannot leave due to circumstances such as custody arrangements and the risk of being charged with kidnapping. They state they continue lawsuits for those who cannot relocate.

I support discussing issues like obesity and overmedicating children. Bobby Kennedy is fighting against the incentive for pharma to profit from sick children, and he's supporting efforts to remove soda from SNAP. The problem is that organizations like Merck don't have children's best interests at heart, considering their history of criminal penalties for misleading information. When the data isn't on their side, RFK Jr. and personal injury lawyers attack the person. My Merck chair is defined by Penn, and there's no quid pro quo. The science continually proves RFK Jr. wrong about vaccines.

Bobby Kennedy is set to play a significant role in making America healthier, as indicated by his close ties to the president-elect. His work with Children's Health Defense and recent publications highlight his views on critical issues like vaccine safety, mandates, and chronic health problems linked to vaccines. While mainstream media has largely overlooked this information, there is hope that independent journalists and podcasters will bring these topics to light. The long-hidden data from the vaccine safety data link is expected to become accessible, potentially reshaping public discourse around these health issues. The shift in coverage reflects a growing awareness and interest in these critical matters.

The speaker claims the current vaccine injury surveillance system, VAERS, captures less than one percent of vaccine injuries, according to a 2010 CDC study. They state that the CDC had a machine counting system to roll out to HMOs but shelved it. The speaker intends to improve surveillance, gather data sets, and create data-sharing agreements with scientists worldwide. They aim to investigate the contribution of vaccines, mold, EMF, food, and other exposures that began in the late 1980s to health issues.

The speaker, recently retired from a local hospital, claims widespread disbelief in flu shots among colleagues due to data issues, stating "the efficacy and I won't give you data. You created the data. Ten percent one year, eighteen percent the next, forty percent at best." They describe the flu vaccine given to children aged two to eight for nearly four years as ineffective, with a claimed three percent efficacy at times. The speaker contrasts this with their hospital experience, where doctors, nurses, medical assistants, patient care, and lab staff did not believe in the flu shot, until mandates and recommendations arrived. They express relief at retirement, saying their soul was sick about what they witnessed, and that conflicts of interest prevented them from speaking out while employed. They recount working on high-volume ER days with about 300 flu cases daily and claim they never contracted the flu, attributing this to personal practices: washing hands, taking vitamin D, and using a berry syrup. The speaker criticizes the shift from physicians and nurses to pharmacists administering the vaccine, accuses the system of bribing people with Target gift cards and marketing the vaccine as free, and denounces scare tactics. They observe an increase in vaccination across generations, noting "some of you are my age," with their generation having seven shots, their daughter ten, her son around sixty, and their new grandson expected to receive seventy-two vaccines, expressing shock at this escalation. The speaker references Robert F. Kennedy Jr., saying he fights for them and goes to court for kids who suffered, noting that Kennedy's family started Special Olympics. They claim that in Kennedy’s view, autism linked to vaccines is evident since there were no autistic kids in the past four decades, and allege that vaccines have caused autism. They describe watching a perfectly healthy two-year-old become a "severe autistic child" after vaccination, expressing certainty that autism exists because of vaccines. They forecast their 10-year-old grandson becoming an adult who, at age 40, would be walking in the mall with a diaper and a helmet. The speaker ends by thanking studies they claim are not done and reiterates their stance against vaccines, including autism implications, as presented in the narrative.

Speaker 0 says that with Secretary Kennedy as head of HHS, we have a unique opportunity to investigate the sins of the past, hold accountable all individuals responsible for cover ups not just this one, and clean up the mess left behind based on the lies about vaccines promulgated throughout society. We not only need to prevent this from happening in the future, but we also need to take care of the many families that suffered and continue to suffer losses at the hands of CDC fraudsters, some of whom are still employed by the agency. As a parent of an adult son who sustained lifelong, easily preventable, yet debilitating vaccine injuries, the speaker states that jail time is too good for these criminals who knowingly killed and maimed a generation of children. But if jail time is as good as it gets, the speaker says, let’s roll and they’ll break out the orange jumpsuits.