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"DOJ wants to keep secret the names of two Epstein associates who wired a $102,150 k in 2018 right after the whole story blew up." "Follow the money because that can expose a lot of the characters." "Epstein has a trust, and it's controlled in offshore bank accounts." "Look into Ghislain Maxwell's trust, what's happening there." "Hats off to Israel. They're doing the right things in their best interest." "The concern is when it comes to The US and we're talking about APAC, Americans vote for you to represent them in America's interests." "There is a two-tier justice system." "We are 37,000,000,000,000 in debt. America is broke. We can't afford it anymore." "Transparency from the United States government." "I don't take donations from big pharma. I don't take donations from the Military Industrial Complex. I don't take donations from APAC." "we just can't fucking afford it anymore." "defund the foreign aid and foreign funding out of our own military funding bill." "I'll have amendments to defund Ukraine $600,000,000 and Israel $500,000,000 and another 105,000,000 for drones and tunnels." "APAC registering under FARA is one example." "America first." "Ukraine is not a NATO member nation." "Defunding Israel is on the table."

The conversation centers on transparency around the Jeffrey Epstein case and perceived cover-ups. "The DOJ wants to keep secret the names of two Epstein associates who wired a $102,150 k in 2018 right after the whole story blew up." They discuss a "two tier justice system" and advise to "follow the money" to reveal networks, trusts, offshore accounts. They emphasize debt: "We are 37,000,000,000,000 in debt" and "we can't afford it anymore" regarding foreign aid. The congresswoman pledges to "defund the foreign aid and foreign funding out of our military funding bill" in NDAA, proposing "defund $600,000,000 for Ukraine" and "defund $500,000,000 ... Israel" plus "105,000,000" for drones/tunnels. She criticizes APAC for not registering under FARA and says she has "a sign" on her door about foreign agents. She insists on "America first" and "Israel first" tensions; calls for release of Epstein files; supports Trump but seeks accountability.

Pam Bondi hasn't released any Epstein documents, and we just sent $4 billion to those who ran the Epstein network. It appears Bondi was placed to conceal these documents, especially after Matt Gaetz, who was aware of Epstein's intelligence connections to Israel, was removed due to an Israeli blackmail sting. Following this, $4 billion in military aid was sent to Israel, who then blocked goods from entering Gaza—a war crime of collective punishment, especially during Ramadan. The Jerusalem Post highlighted this. This blackmail operation has targeted top US officials, including the president, bank heads, and the CIA director. Israel possesses this blackmail, keeping them under control. Despite opposition to aid for Ukraine, billions go to Israel. A new federal anti-Semitism task force will target Americans criticizing the cover-up of this child sex trafficking blackmail ring. This could ruin Trump's legacy, painting him as siding with blackmailers.

Topic: Epstein, transparency, and US debt in MAGA politics. Speaker 1 argues the November 2024 election centers on transparency and a "two tier justice system" where "rich, powerful elites" evade accountability, urging voters to "Follow the money" and scrutinize offshore trusts and the DOJ’s effort to "keep secret the names of two Epstein associates who wired a $102,150 k in 2018." She emphasizes releasing Epstein files and allowing victims to present a list of names, possibly read on the House floor under "speech and debate" privilege. The discussion touches APAC and FARA, and a priority to defund foreign aid given debt ("We are 37,000,000,000,000 in debt. America is broke."). They discuss Ukraine and Israel aid, proposing NDAA amendments to defund Ukraine and parts of Israel aid. They also describe their relationship with Trump and the desire for America-first policy.

This transcript covers claims that Jewish donors have funded open border neoliberal policies, cultural institutions, and nonprofits. "This is a beast created by secular Jews. And now it's coming for Jews, and they're like, what on earth happened?" It also cites "not just the colleges... It's Hollywood" and labels Epstein as "the first big scandal" with calls to "unseal all the Epstein documents in the Southern District Of New York" and to reveal "Everything." It notes "Alexander Acosta ... he was told to treat Epstein carefully because he was an intel asset" and asks "MI six, Saudi, or Mossad?" Beebe's claim: "You can't be MAGA if you're anti Israel." It cites polling: GOP "76%," Dems "36%," Now "eight%." It warns "This is the closest thing to the Holocaust that any of us have lived through" and urges Israel to "seek justice" without turning it into a regional war.

Speaker 0 discusses the nature of the allegations surrounding Epstein and the broader “pedo” discourse. They begin by asking whether the situation is essentially pedophilia, noting a reluctance to voice this directly but concluding that they feel compelled to say it. They state: “This whole pedo thing, it's like, isn't it really pedophilia? I don't wanna be the one that has to say it, but I guess I'm being forced to say it.” They then attempt to distinguish between what some describe as trafficking and what they consider the case to be, saying: “It's not really pedophilia, okay? They weren't trafficking five year olds, it was like they were technically not legal. Big difference in my opinion.” They acknowledge this as a controversial perspective and proceed to articulate a position: “I know that's a controversial take, but that's not really the issue there, Okay? The issue is not that they were barely legal teens, which is what it is. It's horrendous, it's awful, it's pedophilia.” The speaker then shifts the topic away from the legality of the ages to a related, more conspiratorial claim, emphasizing that the core issue, in their view, lies in an alleged association between Epstein and a broader espionage context. They insist: “Okay, relax. No, the issue is that Epstein is a Jewish spy probably working with Israel.” They frame Epstein as being connected to Israeli intelligence, presenting this as the central dilemma rather than the specifics of the sexual exploitation allegations. Throughout, Speaker 0 presents a sequence of framed assertions: first, a provocative reframing of the ethical category involved (from illegal but not strictly illegal acts to pedophilia), then a qualitative judgment about the severity and nature of the acts themselves, and finally a shift to a geopolitical and intelligence-related conspiracy claim about Epstein’s possible affiliation with Jewish identity and Israeli intelligence. The speaker explicitly acknowledges the controversial nature of their viewpoint but maintains that the primary concern is not the legal characterization of the victims’ ages but the asserted espionage connection. No further context, evidence, or qualifiers are provided in the excerpt, and the speaker does not offer evidence supporting the espionage claim within this transcript. The emphasis remains on contrasting opinions about how to categorize the behavior, followed by a bold assertion regarding Epstein’s alleged role as a Jewish spy associated with Israel.

Remember when I promised to release the Epstein, JFK, and 9/11 files? It's been a while, and still nothing. I put Anna Paulina and Pam Bondi on it, even created a committee, which seemed unnecessary just to release files. They handed over binders to DC Draino and company, but the information was heavily redacted, supposedly to protect victims' names and due to the FBI's concerns, even though we oversee the FBI. Then national security became the excuse for more redactions, and the whole thing just stalled. Now, we're moving onto releasing the JFK files, while the Epstein files remain hidden. And now Pam Bondi is investigating antisemitism on college campuses. So, I just have one question: Where are those files?

Discussing the Epstein case, speakers note few Republicans present: "There didn't seem to be a lot of Republicans. It was free DC people and believe all women signs." They say it looks "mostly left wing" and that the issue is used politically: "they seem to be using this for as a political thing." The rollout is described as disorganized: "I don't think it was handled well." They suggest "there seems to be something hidden from public view" and that "the government" protects "their sources and methods." On Pam Bondi, "I haven't done that story." The speaker recalls Epstein Island: "Footage from the time of the raid... a lot of people that he worked with." DOJ says "there is no culpability of any of these people." The talk hints at bipartisanship but "they're afraid of Donald Trump... There’s nothing to see here." They will "talk to Massey" and report from Capitol.

Speaker 0: "We're just gonna try to we're we're gonna just stamp out everything type type of practice, but it goes to the point where if, for example, if I I have less ability sometimes online to criticize the Israeli government about backlash than actual Israelis do. And that's really, really weird, isn't it, Megan?" Speaker 1: "That's not right. Wrong headed." He says he faced blowback after saying, "Mossad, possibilities with Epstein," a comment he stands by, and that he "reported what Alan Dershowitz has said as his lawyer." He writes, "He says, I think he would have told me. He didn't say he had any of those connections. I hear all that. That doesn't mean it's not true." "I think all these things should be explored." "It's one of the many things that should be explored around Epstein." He finishes, "But saying that and also saying he might be a US asset, etcetera, doesn't make you antisemitic."

The speaker discusses public outrage following claims from the Department of Justice and FBI that there was no Epstein client list, no blackmail, and that Epstein killed himself. Pam Bondi stated she had a file to review, including JFK and MLK files. While there may not be a single client list, Bill Clinton's name appeared in Epstein's phone log 21 times, and flight logs show numerous trips to Epstein's island. Bondi said flight logs with many names would be released, but they have not been. Bondi stated that thousands of videos turned out to be child porn downloaded by Epstein, but reports indicate Epstein's residences were rigged with video cameras capturing footage of bedrooms and bathrooms. The FBI seized hundreds of hard drives, USBs, CDs, and backup servers from Epstein's properties, some labeled "nude girl pics." Bondi had no knowledge of Epstein being an agent. Epstein had over $500 million and three US passports, plus an Australian passport listing Saudi Arabia as his home country. The speaker concludes that the current narrative attempts to rewrite what is known about Epstein and that the hope for transparency has been snuffed out.

Republicans are reminded that not all Jewish people support Israel, and it is important not to express hatred towards all Jews. The speaker discusses the ties between Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein, and Israel, highlighting connections to Mossad and various individuals. They mention the influence of Israel on discussions about Epstein and claim that Israel controls the platforms where Epstein is discussed. The speaker also brings up the financial ties between Israel and US politicians, including the president and the Clintons. They criticize the Israeli offensive against Palestine and suggest that Israel is responsible for a large human trafficking ring. The speaker questions the support for Israel and argues that calling out a genocide is not anti-Semitic. They mention the cognitive dissonance on the internet and briefly mention TikTok's commitment to freedom of speech.

So, the Epstein files aren't online yet. Instead, the White House gave binders of the first disclosure phase to mainstream conservative influencers. Hopefully, the PDFs will be available soon. My concern is with some of the chosen influencers, particularly the staunchly pro-Israel ones. Considering Epstein's ties to Israel, it's questionable to have them control the documents. Their online presence seems to heavily favor Israeli narratives. More importantly, remember that access is a form of control in politics. These influencers now have access to the administration, which may compromise their ability to report critically and unbiasedly. While I'm staying optimistic, I hope everyone involved, regardless of their perspectives, reports the facts honestly and ethically.

"We're just gonna try to we're we're gonna just stamp out everything type type of practice, but it goes to the point where if, for example, if I I have less ability sometimes online to criticize the Israeli government about backlash than actual Israelis do. And that's really, really weird, isn't it, Megan?" "That's not right. Wrong headed." "I So got some blowback after saying Mossad possibilities with Epstein, a comment behind which I stand." "I've, of course, reported what Alan Dershowitz has said as his lawyer." "He says, I think he would have told me." "He didn't say he had any of those connections." "I hear all that. That doesn't mean it's not true." "It's one of the many things that should be explored around Epstein." "But saying that and also saying he might be a US asset, etcetera, doesn't make you antisemitic."

Speaker 0: The speaker alleges a cover-up by people including Bill Barr and Mike Pompeo. Bill Barr, described by Jeffrey Epstein as “CIA,” allegedly covered up Epstein’s murder in federal detention, with Barr saying publicly, “we gotta make sure everyone thinks this is a suicide.” The speaker asks why Barr isn’t being questioned about this. Mike Pompeo is accused of plotting to murder Julian Assange, head of WikiLeaks. The speaker notes that WikiLeaks released the first tranche of emails to the public, and that Assange suggested on Dutch TV that his source was Seth Rich, a DNC staffer who was found murdered in Washington in what was described as a robbery where nothing was taken. Assange hinted in the interview that his sources faced great risks, mentioning Seth Rich; the interviewer pressed whether Rich was murdered for the leaks, and Assange said he couldn’t reveal sources but that they faced risks. Shortly after, Assange was incarcerated, first in an embassy in London and then in Belmarsh Prison, without criminal charges, actions the speaker attributes to the CIA and Mike Pompeo. The speaker contends that someone should ask Pompeo about this. Speaker 1: The speaker expresses anger at what they see as broad, systemic cover-ups versus ordinary Americans facing jail for minor offenses. They reference Pizzagate and Epstein, asserting that cover-ups extend across other issues, including Benghazi and Hillary Clinton material, which they claim were never properly pursued with the appropriate parties. They point to a long list of alleged co-conspirators connected to the Epstein matter, including those revealed in a recent document drop and corroborated subsequently. The list reportedly includes ten co-conspirators: one named Leslie Wexner, pilots (three identified by name), and others such as Ghislain Maxwell and various assistants who recruited girls, as well as individuals trafficking models. The speaker asserts there were many people around Epstein who were deeply involved and deserve serious questioning. They also reference Ehud Barak as among those connected to the network. Overall: The conversation presents multiple allegations of high-level complicity and cover-ups involving Bill Barr, Mike Pompeo, Julian Assange, Seth Rich, and a broad network around Jeffrey Epstein, including named and unnamed individuals, with claims of documented co-conspirators and ongoing questions about accountability.

Pam Bondi hasn't released Epstein documents, and we just sent $4 billion to those running the network. It seems Bondi was placed to hide the documents after Matt Gaetz, who knew about Epstein's intelligence connections to Israel, was stopped by an Israeli blackmail sting. Marco Rubio announced $4 billion in military aid to Israel, who then blocked goods into Gaza, a war crime of collective punishment, especially during Ramadan. This is part of a larger blackmail operation targeting top US officials, banks, and tech companies, with blackmail still in play, influencing them to cover it up. While the right opposes aid to Ukraine, they ignore billions to Israel. A new anti-Semitism task force will target Americans criticizing the cover-up of a child sex trafficking blackmail ring. This will destroy Trump's legacy if he sides with the blackmailers.

There's a massive difference between Donald Trump who banned Epstein from Mar A Lago when he found out about his disgusting hobbies and somebody like Bill Clinton who rode shotgun to Epstein's island doing who knows what with who knows who after getting out of office. One rejected the predator and the other partied with him. And that's what Gen is frustrated with. We want accountability. We want transparency. That's not what we had under the Biden administration. And that there is exactly why we voted for Trump. He's performed CPR on the American dream. This time last year on Abiodunatics, thankfully, we have a president who's going to start addressing that, and we need to see that soon before the midterm.

Speaker 0 raises a question about accountability for Israel and mentions Jeffrey Epstein’s dealings with Mossad. Speaker 1 asks, without specifics, whether there are forces that tried to influence him to stop what he’s doing now. Speaker 0 responds that they wouldn’t vote for foreign aid and foreign war funding, and they were upset because he said no. He states: “I’m not voting to fund the Ukraine war ever,” and “Israel’s doing just fine. We don’t need to give them a penny, not a single penny, nor do we need to give it to any other country, but they get mad at me for that.”

Wake up because I am telling you this is not a battle between left and right. We have to now meet in the middle. Do you think that America should just cut ties with Israel altogether? What's your definition of cut ties? Like, stop funding them? Yes. Stopping their military arm? Yes. I'm on record, sir. APAC needs to register under FARA. I've openly demanded that, and if we had a Department of Justice that was doing its job, they would be investigating APEC. Wherever you are on his ideology, he's a profile in courage. I mean, he's got billions of dollars being spent against him. He's got billions of dollars because people don't want the Epstein release. He's got billions of dollars because APAC has been attacking him.

Speaker 0 explains that Epstein’s legal problems began with police investigations into allegations that underage women were coming to Epstein’s house. Epstein allegedly believed that Trump was the first to inform the police about what was happening at Epstein’s house, and from that point they became bitter enemies. Speaker 1 asks if this is what Epstein is telling him. Speaker 0 confirms that this is the version he is relaying, as presented by “Oh, the hoax yesterday.” Speaker 2 clarifies that “the hoax” refers to Democrats using a narrative to attack him. He says Epstein has never said or suggested or implied that the hoax is real; he has talked to Epstein many times. He states that the whole thing comes across as a hoax, not that Epstein’s actions are a hoax. He explains that Epstein believes himself innocent, and that when he first heard the rumor, he kicked him out of Maribago. He adds that Epstein was an FBI informant trying to take this matter down. The president knows and has great sympathy for the women who have suffered harms; it’s detestable to him. He and the speaker have spoken as recently as twenty-four hours ago. What he is talking about, according to Speaker 2, are the Democrats who are pursuing this with impure motives. If they truly cared, he asks, why didn’t they act during the four years of the Biden administration when the Biden DOJ had all the records? They didn’t say a word about it, and now they pursue it for political purposes. Speaker 3 notes that our current president has had relationships with Epstein in the past, and mentions Katie Johnson and possibly other victims who have accused Trump of involvement in similar matters. In the speaker’s experience, Trump supporters will not listen to such claims. He admits the court of law isn’t present here. He asks if there is anything that can be said about the validity of those claims or whether more is known. Speaker 1 responds that he can say nothing at all. He states that the only thing he can say about President Trump is that in 2009, when he served subpoenas and gave notice to connected people that he wanted to talk to them, Trump was the only person who picked up the phone and said, “let’s just talk.” Trump offered as much time as needed, provided information that checked out, and helped him so they didn’t have to depose him. He adds that this occurred in 2009. Speaker 3 asks if there is any truth to James Patterson’s claims that Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago. Speaker 1 confirms that he definitely heard that.

Major themes: Epstein files and government transparency; “The DOJ is hiding two Epstein payoff names” and “follow the money” to trace offshore trusts. The discussion emphasizes “not about Republican versus Democrats” and victims seeking accountability, with potential lists read on the House floor via “speech and debate” privilege. They criticize foreign aid spending, stating “We are 37,000,000,000,000 in debt. America is broke” and “we just can't fucking afford it anymore,” and propose defunding foreign aid from the NDAA, including Ukraine ($600,000,000) and Israel ($500,000,000 plus $105,000,000 for drones). They advocate an “America first” approach, prioritizing domestic needs like the border, health care, and debt reform, while noting pressure on MAGA from Epstein and Israel-first positions. The conversation also references Trump, Elon Musk, Doge, and calls for peace in Gaza and Ukraine.

There's a range of views on Israel—from those who hit Israel who are not anti-Semites to others with 'religious reasons for wanting to blow up Israel'—'those are all threats' and questions arise, 'Why attack people who are pretty reasonable... Why denounce them as dangerous antisemites?' He said, 'Israel was losing the PR war, that they had lost Democrats and independents and were starting to lose the Republican Party in America, and it was time to wrap it up.' At Turning Point with Charlie, they discussed Epstein and Pam Bondi; 'Israel, yeah, would make sense to me.' After two years defending Israel, 'some weird crowd' labeled them 'she's an anti Semite,' and they cried, 'eff these people because it's a lie.' Charlie 'had said nothing, like, nothing' and was smeared; '31,' a youth voice, 'under 30 is against Israel.' 'I'm on their side.' 'I know you want your hostages back, but it this cannot go on until you have every hostage.' 'You've had a two year long leash.'

Speaker 0 addresses the topic of the Epstein situation, expressing a controversial viewpoint about labeling the matter. They begin by saying, "This whole pedo thing, it's like, isn't it really pedophilia? I don't wanna be the one that has to say it, but I guess I'm being forced to say it." They then attempt to clarify their stance by asserting, "It's not really pedophilia, okay? They weren't trafficking five year olds, it was like they were technically not legal. Big difference in my opinion." The speaker acknowledges that this interpretation is controversial, adding, "I know that's a controversial take, but that's not really the issue there, Okay, the issue is not that they were barely legal teens, which is what it is." They continue to differentiate between the legality and the ethical horror, insisting, "It's horrendous, it's awful, it's pedophilia, okay." However, despite labeling it pedophilia, they pivot to a different focal point, stating, "No, the issue is that Epstein is a Jewish spy probably working with Israel." The speaker characterizes Epstein as being "probably working with Israel" and frames this as the underlying dilemma. They conclude by reiterating their position, "He's working with Israeli intelligence," emphasizing that this supposed affiliation constitutes the core of the dilemma discussed.

“‘There is no we. It it is not we.’ The speaker says politicians ‘are getting paid to promote the GOP’ while unemployment rises and promises like student-debt relief ignored. They claim Democrats and Republicans ‘take turns in office’ and that, they 'extended the corporate tax cut.' Five years of Epstein controversy are recalled as ‘Epstein, Epstein, a pedophile island.’ Then dismissed with, ‘I don't know what you're talking about. Oh, you care about that? Oh, get real. That's not actually affecting anybody.’ They reference immigration: ‘the big beautiful bill’ to slow deportations. The MAGA machine—‘Wall Street, Silicon Valley, Israel’—is said to oppose Thomas Massey, described as ‘public enemy number one of MAGA,’ persecuted by Susie Wiles, a fucking lobbyist. They demand release of forty five thousand hours of Capitol footage, Tucker Carlson received it, and accuse Israel-linked figures like Peter Thiel of hiding material in a ‘Peto Island conspiracy.’