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The speaker discusses the CDC leadership, confirming 'we let go of Susan Menarie yesterday' and that the agency is 'a very troubled for a very long time' with 'bizarre recommendations that were not science based' during the COVID pandemic. They say 'Go to the website. Look at it. Fluorination, giving kids a toxin, and vaccines.' They add, 'There's a lot of trouble at CDC, and it's going to require getting rid of some people over the long term in order for us to change the institutional culture and bring back pride and self esteem and make that agency the stellar agency that it's always been.' They conclude, 'I'm very confident in the political staff that we have down there now that they're gonna be able to accomplish that and and ensure the competent functionality of that agency.'

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During the measles outbreak, I promised governor Abbott to send money and aid to Texas, but this individual blocked that money for a month. We then sought the vaccine safety data link—the data CDC supposedly uses to assess vaccine harms—but for seven months he stonewalled us. He also runs VAERS, the surveillance system for injuries, which, according to CDC's own study, captures fewer than one percent of vaccine injuries. This is malpractice. These people are the people who ordered our children to walk around in mass. They're the people who closed our schools, imposed social distancing with no science, and shut down our businesses, and they need to go. The Trump administration is gonna make sure that happens. You know, secretary, you

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The speaker believes mandating vaccines and negating natural immunity from infection was a big mistake. They agree that the general public's negative sentiment towards vaccines is now greater than when they became CDC director in 2018 or 2019. This increased negativity is largely due to how the COVID vaccines were positioned on the American public.

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In August 2014, Bill Thompson made an admission that the CDC had lied and hidden the fact that the MMR vaccine was associated with autism. The account describes the interaction as unfolding “like a spy movie,” leading the narrator to secretly record phone conversations with doctor William Thompson. The recordings were made in Oregon because it is illegal to secretly record phone conversations in California. Doctor Thompson allegedly freely admitted that he had covered it up and that his associates at the CDC had also covered it up. Doctor William Thompson also stated that “Thimerosal causes autism like features,” and said that he was completely ashamed of what he did. He described that “the higher ups wanted to do certain things,” and that he went along with it. He named Colleen as the center director, Frank as the director of immunization safety, and Marshall as the branch chief, saying they were still all much more senior than him. Another claim stated that Doctor Julie Gerberding was the head of the CDC at the time, and that she later went on to a lucrative career at Merck, a manufacturer of the MMR vaccine. The transcript ends with an expression of disbelief at what was done, saying, “I cannot believe we did what we did, but we did.”

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- it's that he took the COVID vaccine off the recommended schedule for children. - 95% of parents were already rejecting that advice, and actually 85% of healthcare workers rejecting that advice. - when these people in the media say that they are standing up for science, they are saying they're going against 95% of parents, and they want every single six month old in this country to have a mandated mRNA COVID injection. - There is a memo going around at the CDC and throughout HHS about how to subvert president Trump and how to subvert secretary Kennedy. - They're saying we're gonna outlast them, that the Republicans are gonna lose the midterms, that this is gonna be a flash in the pan.

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Speaker 0 argues that anyone can file a complaint with a law enforcement authority for murder conspiracy and demand arrests and prosecutions. He points to a 2013 press release claiming that DARPA awarded Moderna Therapeutics up to $25,000,000 to develop messenger RNA therapeutics, noting that DARPA is the Pentagon and claiming the Pentagon bought, paid for, and envisioned these mRNA shots. He contends Fort Detrick was involved in developing COVID-19 at the UNC BSL-3 and asserts the Pentagon is on both sides of the argument, developing the weapon and the alleged vaccines. Speaker 1 asks whether there is any liability shield for deploying a biowarfare weapon and whether the narrative about congressional liability for Pfizer is a SIOP. Speaker 0 agrees that civil liability is separate from criminal liability, stating in his book Resisting Medical Tyranny that executives at companies developing these mRNA shots are guilty of murder and conspiracy to commit murder. He cites a Portugal report claiming that upwards of 300,000 Americans had been murdered by the mRNA Franken shots and invokes the JAB resolution, describing it as a Nuremberg crime against humanity and a violation of the Nuremberg Code. He defines a Nuremberg crime against humanity as murder, extermination, and other inhumane acts committed against civilians. Speaker 1 asks about liability for government officials who approved the vaccines. Speaker 0 says FDA officials who approved the shots could be indicted for murder and conspiracy to commit murder, noting the FDA’s involvement in developing COVID-19 as an offensive biological warfare weapon at UNC BSL-3, including a cited contract listing National Center for Toxicological Research and FDA as contributors. He claims the FDA, which approves the vaccines, was involved in this development. Speaker 1 questions the CDC and media accountability, noting the CDC’s recommendation of the vaccines and media promotion of boosters. Speaker 0 says the CDC, including Director Milensky (appointed by Biden, from Harvard Medical School), is complicit, and claims the CDC has a history dating back to the Reagan administration of handling offensive biological warfare projects, including shipping weaponized agents to Saddam Hussein with implications for U.S. troops after Gulf War I. Speaker 1 asks whether there are lawmakers with intel on gain-of-function biowarfare. Speaker 0 mentions Senator Rand Paul as having a strong understanding, but asserts that some lawmakers were threatened and obstructed after consulting him, recounting an experience with Walter Jones of the House Armed Services Committee who briefly engaged but then did not follow up, implying threats prevented action. Speaker 1 asks how citizens should respond, and Speaker 0 advocates reporting to sheriffs, district attorneys, and state attorneys, noting progress with a Collier County health freedom declaration. They discuss enforcement mechanisms, seizure, and incineration of stockpiles, and trial and sentencing for those responsible. Speaker 0 condemns China’s Wuhan Institute of Virology as a bioweapons lab, alleging it was a Chinese counterpart to Fort Detrick, with the Chinese president seeking his own BSL-4 program and an offensive biowarfare arsenal. Speaker 1 notes U.S. funding and international bioweapons labs, including Ukraine and Taiwan, and ends by referencing Lindsey Graham and a speaker labeled as a professor Boyle.

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It is nearly impossible to publish data that goes against the national public health narrative, preventing doctors from finding solutions. The speaker has conducted clinical trials for pharmaceutical companies, including vaccine studies, and has brought vaccines and other drugs to market. Some drugs never made it to market because they killed people. Clinical trial guidelines ensure safe drugs, but these guidelines were not followed during the pandemic, affecting everyone. COVID should have been a time for doctors to unite, but interference with research occurred. Science evolves through experiments, skepticism, and an open mind. Challenging current knowledge must be allowed to move science forward, but what the speaker witnessed during the pandemic was not science.

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More and more people became aware that, in a country where someone could be completely healthy, receive an injection, and drop dead the next day, figures of authority would claim there was no relation or no evidence connecting the exposure to what happened. The speaker describes this as a “big lie” and says it provided “fodder” for growing public awareness of corruption as an integral and apparently inseparable part of the government and public health infrastructure. They state that people saw the situation with their own eyes and that they personally witnessed it. The speaker also says their own medical and research training—including being a physician with a PhD in research science and training at UCLA—made what they heard and saw “obvious,” and they could not believe colleagues and other scientists sometimes “spouting” claims they viewed as creating and upholding an alternate reality about COVID-19 vaccines.

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On firing of the CDC director. The White House said that she did not align with the president's agenda. Doctor Menards' attorney say that she refused to rubber stamp unscientific reckless directives and fire dedicated health experts. Her lawyer's statement made it abundantly clear themselves that she was not aligned with the president's mission to make America healthy again. The secretary asked her to resign. She said she would and then she said she wouldn't, so the president fired her. It was president Trump who was overwhelmingly reelected on November 5. A replacement will be announced by either the president or the secretary. The president and secretary Kennedy are committed to restoring trust and transparency to the CDC by making leadership more public facing and accountable, restoring its core mission of protecting Americans from communicable diseases, and investing in innovation to prevent, detect, and respond to future threats.

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Secretary, the CDC director was fired after refusing to resign as her lawyers accuse you, sir, of putting millions of American lives at risk as a CDC vaccine chief slammed in a resignation post. “I'm not gonna comment. It would be inappropriate for me to comment on a personnel issue.” “What I will say is, you know, there's president president Trump Trump has has very, very ambitious hopes for what for CDC right now.” “The CDC has problems.” “You know, we saw the misinformation coming out of COVID.” “They got the testing testing wrong. Wrong.” “They got the the social distancing, the masks, the the school closures that did so much harm to the American people.” “Oh, today on CDC's website right now, they list the 10 top top advance the the 10 greatest advances in medical science, and one of them is abortion. The other is another is floridation.” “Another is vaccines.” “So we need to look at the priorities of the agency if there's really a deeply, deeply embedded, I would say, malaise at the agency.” “And we need strong leadership that will go in there and that will be able to execute on president Trump's broad ambitions.”

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Anthony Fauci is seen as a symbol of institutional corruption within organizations like the NIH and FDA. Other scientists, such as Frankie Kelsey and Bernice Eddie, who raised concerns about harmful substances in vaccines, were punished instead of being recognized. It seems that in order to succeed in these regulatory agencies, one must support the pharmaceutical industry. Fauci's longevity in his position is attributed to his ability to protect industry profits rather than public health.

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Speaker 0 frames the issue as 'the corruption of science' and the 'capture of the agencies' by pharmaceutical industries, stating the goal is to restore integrity and credibility to science. Speaker 1 cites a CDC internal study: 'black boys who got the vaccine on time had a two hundred and sixty percent greater chance of getting an autism diagnosis than children who waited.' He adds that 'The chief chief scientist on that, Doctor. William Thompson, the senior said vaccine safety science at CDC, was ordered to destroy that data. And then they published it without that fact.' Finally, he asserts, 'So, you know that story. And you know of hundreds of stories like that. It happens all the time. We are being lied to by these agencies, and we're gonna change that right now.'

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The transcript recounts events described as starting in August 2014, when Bill Thompson made an admission that the CDC had lied and hid the fact that the MMR vaccine was associated with autism. The speaker describes the experience of talking with Thompson as feeling “like a spy movie,” and says it led them to secretly record phone conversations with Dr. William Thompson in Oregon because it is illegal to secretly record phone conversations in California. The speaker claims that Dr. Thompson freely admitted he covered it up and that his associates at the CDC also covered it up. Speaker 0 says, “Thimerosal causes autism-like features,” and adds, “I'm completely ashamed of what I did.” Speaker 0 states that “the higher-ups wanted to do certain things” and that Speaker 0 “went along with it.” Speaker 0 identifies Colleen as a center director, Frank as the director of immunization safety, and Marshall as the branch chief, and says they “are still all much more senior” than Speaker 0. Speaker 1 says Dr. Julie Gerberding was head of the CDC at the time, and that she went on to a “lucrative career at Merck,” the manufacturer of the MMR vaccine. Speaker 0 concludes with, “I'm like, oh my God, I cannot believe we did what we did. But we did it.”

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The United States government has been the main source of misinformation during the pandemic, spreading false claims about COVID transmission, vaccine immunity, and mask effectiveness. The Cochrane review, the most authoritative evidence body in medicine, disproves these claims. The government ignored the review, as well as the fact that myocarditis is more common after vaccination than after infection. Pushing boosters for young healthy people without sufficient data led to the resignation of top vaccine experts at the FDA. Vaccine mandates did not increase vaccination rates, but instead created a group of never vaxxers. The CDC also manipulated research, selectively reporting data to support their desired outcomes. This dishonesty and weaponization of medical research is unforgivable.

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Dr. Malone, who resigned as vice chair of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices under the Trump administration, is introduced as an early mRNA vaccine researcher who warned about the COVID vaccine, was deplatformed, censored, and later sued the Biden administration for censorship. The hosts note that his joining the Trump administration gave some in the MAHA community hope that the government would listen to evidence-based doctors and experts, but his resignation raises questions about why the MAHA movement seems stalled. Malone is asked to grade the MAHA movement’s progress inside the Trump administration. He responds: the grade would have to be a C. It’s not failing and is succeeding in many things, particularly relating to nutrition—nutrition agenda, food safety, food integrity, improving SNAP benefits, children's food in schools, and food for military personnel. However, there was a major setback on glyphosate policies, and there is frustration about the administration’s willingness to shut down any discussions about vaccine policy in advance of the midterms, based on polling and opinions within the West Wing. The conversation shifts to naming individuals who allegedly torpedo MAHA inside the White House. The hosts name Susie Wiles, and Malone hedges about naming others, but indicates Overton—Marty Makary’s former postdoc, a Hopkins MD—has been a major factor in influencing policy to shut down vaccine discussions and to realign vaccine policy with Western peers, while cutting back on mandated vaccines. The hosts discuss polling suggesting MAHA represents only about two to five percent of the electorate and that this group is expendable if it risks broader vaccine controversy. The discussion emphasizes that the media misrepresents vaccine policy changes. Malone and a host insist that vaccines were not taken away, access was not removed, subsidies were not removed, and indemnification programs were not withdrawn. They describe a realignment toward “shared decision making,” which requires active informed consent with a pediatrician about whether to accept a vaccine product. They cite the American Academy of Pediatrics lawsuit against Bobby Kennedy, arguing that the cost to pediatricians to engage in informed consent is a core issue for those opposing this approach, with corporate pediatrics and time-pressure in clinics also involved. They discuss the possibility of withdrawing PrEP Act coverage for mRNA products, a policy supported by the secretary but not allowed to proceed. Malone notes internal discussions around visible data on pediatric deaths related to COVID vaccines, and mentions VAERS cases identified by Tracey Beth Hogue (now acting director of the Center for Drug Evaluation and Research) that were later downplayed; he claims there was a cover-up through the crisis and references data on DNA adulteration as another example. The dialogue touches on internal White House dynamics, including Heidi Overton’s role and the anti-vaccine-mandate stance, and suggests that the administration’s moderation of vaccine controversy before the midterms reflects strategic polling rather than a shift in belief about vaccines. Malone asserts the secretary supports withdrawing PrEP Act coverage, though he can’t confirm for certain. They discuss media sensationalism around measles vaccines and vaccines in general, noting that headlines claim RFK Jr. is removing vaccines, but the speakers argue vaccines remain accessible and subsidized. Malone emphasizes the broader problem of public health policy being weaponized and politicized, rather than rationally examined to help the public make informed decisions, and contrasts U.S. policy with Scandinavian approaches where vaccine uptake remains high without mandates. The host asks about chemtrails and weather manipulation; Malone traces it to historical interests, governance, and current political priorities, concluding that the administration does not prioritize this issue and that MAHA must mobilize voters to press it if they want action. The interview ends with encouragement to subscribe to Malone’s Substack, Malone News, and a reflection on fragmentation and the influence of AI on public discourse, with Malone recommending a simpler, steadier life and a homestead.

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Speaker 0 says they will discuss “things that people may not know,” arguing that many people are aware that COVID is a scam, while “everyone understands there’s disease.” They claim the fear “they’ve pushed” has been used to control and manipulate the public. They state they will focus on “who’s actually behind it,” and they contrast common political framing by saying people typically talk about Republicans and Democrats, but that both are “wings of the same bird.” Speaker 0 describes what they call the “COVID agenda” and asserts that it involves identifying who was in charge of the CDC and what they claim the CDC controlled or recommended. They say the CDC was “telling our government to shut down small businesses” and “what they recommend for the mandates of the vaccines and Pfizer and all this.” To support this, they announce they will “read off the staff of who’s in charge of this CDC” at the time COVID was enacted. Speaker 0 then lists specific roles and names, each accompanied by the claim that the person has “dual citizenship with Israel” and is “Jew,” stating: - Rochelle Walensky, director of the CDC - Ann Chowalczyk, Deputy Director of the CDC - Sherry Berger, CDC Chief of Staff - Mitchell Wolfe, CDC Chief Medical Officer - Jeff Zaints, “COVID czar” - Jeff Rezic, director of the CDC of the Washington office - Andy Slavitt, “COVID senior advisor” Speaker 0 frames the list as a way to identify leadership they say was involved in controlling and directing the government response, including shutdowns of small businesses and vaccine-related mandates.

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Question about the CDC resignation and how the agency can function. "I will confirm that we let go of Susan Menarie yesterday." The CDC is an agency that is very troubled for a very long time. "Among the top 10 medical innovations greatest medical accomplishments in history was abortion. This is the one of the greatest medical accomplishments because it keeps small families." "Go to the website. Look at it. Fluorination, giving kids a toxin, and vaccines." There's a lot of trouble at CDC, and it's going to require getting rid of some people over the long term to change the institutional culture and bring back pride. "I'm very confident in the political staff that we have down there now that they're gonna be able to accomplish that and and ensure the competent functionality of that agency."

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I'm preparing to shake up the Department of Health and Human Services by dismissing vaccine advisors with conflicts of interest. The medical industry has undue influence over regulators and government policy. We aim to remove conflicts of interest from committees and research partners or balance them with other stakeholders. The CDC's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices is a clear target, and their meeting was recently postponed indefinitely. Medical professionals have urged me to preserve the meeting, emphasizing the importance of vaccines in responding to public health threats. Panels advising the FDA are also being targeted. I've vowed to reassess the childhood vaccination schedule and suggested that certain vaccines, like the COVID-19 vaccines, could be taken off the market. The CDC has already withdrawn its "wild to mild seasonal" campaign for the flu vaccination.

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The speaker discusses “Santa virus,” swine flu virus, and COVID virus, claiming “viruses are fake.” The speaker then frames the 1976 swine flu campaign as an example, saying the CDC “control plan for the national vaccination campaign against the swine flu in 1976” came out of Atlanta and that “there was not a single known case of this flu in The United States” yet “it did not stop the medical monopoly from their scheme.” The speaker says swine breeders began to inject pigs and animals, after which “all of their animals began to perish,” and claims that if swine breeders would not inject toxins into animals, “Our only market is to inject it into the people.” The speaker then claims “Doctor Morris then went public with his statement” that “at no point was there a swine flu vaccine which was effective,” and says he was fired. The speaker adds that “anybody who goes against the vaccine narrative” is “removed.” Next, the speaker says that because the pigs were passing and the vaccine needed to be delivered to people, “president Ford appears on a news program to urge the American people to submit to the vaccination for the swine flu vaccine, 1976.” The speaker says it “didn’t work with the pigs” because it was killing the pigs, and claims doctors began saying “don’t do that,” leading to the president being involved. The speaker then states that insurance agencies “went public with their warning” that they would not issue insurance to the drug firm because it “can cause a lot of damages.” The speaker ties this to 2020 by saying it “Sounds a lot like 2020.” The speaker claims “it was a foil” that insurance companies warned, while Gerald Ford appealed to “the 215,000,000 Americans” to get “the booster,” “Get the injections,” and “Get your vaccines,” and that the government would provide “donuts” and “Krispy Kreme.” The speaker calls it “Murder by injection,” and says that “within a few months” claims totaling “$1,300,000,000 filed by the victims” included “paralysis from the swine flu vaccine.” The speaker then claims the “medical monopoly” changed the name to “GBS,” and that in 1986 “Reagan signed a bill to protect all vaccines from lawsuits.” The speaker concludes by saying this “sums up vaccines in a nutshell,” asserting that presidents, animals, doctors, and TV were used and that the message is “repeating it to you until you don’t.” The speaker ends with a directive, saying anyone who tells others to put vaccines “into your body” should be “beat them up or put them in a cage and beat them up,” mentioning “UFC” as an example.

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the corruption of science, which I believe you just said. That is almost your number one goal. Right? Is try to bring integrity and credibility back to science, which has been corrupted by the people who pay for it, by federal health agencies being captured by pharmaceutical industries, by big pharma, by big food. In 02/2002, CDC did an internal study of Atlanta, Fulton County, Georgia children looked at children who got the MLR vaccine on time and compared those to kids who got them later. The data from that study showed that black boys who got the vaccine on time had a two sixty percent greater chance of getting an autism diagnosis than children who waited. The chief scientist on that, Doctor. William Thompson, the senior vaccine safety science at CDC, was ordered to come into a room with four other co authors by his boss, Frank DeStefano, who’s the head of the immunization safety press, ordered to destroy that data. And then they published it without that fact. It happens all the time. We are being lied to by these agencies. And we're going to change that right now.

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**Bahasa Melayu:** Penceramah berkongsi pengalamannya sebagai penasihat WHO dan pengetahuannya tentang vaksin. Beliau mendakwa telah memberi amaran tentang vaksin COVID-19 sebelum ia dikeluarkan, tetapi disenyapkan. Beliau mencadangkan alternatif seperti ivermectin, tetapi juga disekat. Isu COVID-19 digunakan untuk agenda lain, dengan vaksin sebagai fokus utama. Vaksin mRNA yang digunakan berbeza daripada vaksin tradisional dan dipromosikan secara agresif walaupun terdapat kesan sampingan. Pakar tempatan dan tokoh agama digunakan untuk mempromosikan vaksin, manakala pandangan alternatif disenyapkan. FDA digunakan sebagai sandaran untuk kelulusan vaksin kecemasan, walaupun terdapat pilihan rawatan lain. Maklumat yang salah disebarkan melalui media, dan percubaan untuk berkongsi maklumat alternatif disekat. Rakyat disogok untuk mengambil vaksin dan booster. Beliau mendakwa tiada bukti vaksin menyelamatkan nyawa, tetapi banyak bukti kesan buruk. Vaksin COVID-19 sebenarnya adalah terapi gen yang mengubah genetik manusia, menyebabkan pelbagai masalah kesihatan. Beliau menggesa orang ramai untuk tidak panik tentang virus dan fokus pada meningkatkan sistem imun. **English Translation:** The speaker shared his experience as a WHO advisor and his knowledge of vaccines. He claimed to have warned about the COVID-19 vaccine before its release but was silenced. He suggested alternatives like ivermectin but was also blocked. The COVID-19 issue was used for other agendas, with the vaccine as the main focus. The mRNA vaccines used differ from traditional vaccines and were aggressively promoted despite side effects. Local experts and religious figures were used to promote the vaccine, while alternative views were silenced. The FDA was used as a backup for emergency vaccine approval, even though other treatment options existed. Misinformation was spread through the media, and attempts to share alternative information were blocked. People were bribed to take vaccines and boosters. He claimed there is no evidence that vaccines save lives, but plenty of evidence of adverse effects. The COVID-19 vaccine is actually gene therapy that alters human genetics, causing various health problems. He urged people not to panic about the virus and focus on boosting their immune systems.

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Speaker 0 argues that 'the trustworthiness of the information that we actually receive from the news media' is a major problem and notes that 'the easiest thing for our democratic colleagues to do is to scare people.' He asks, 'COVID nineteen was politicized?' Speaker 1 answers, 'the whole process was politicized' and says 'we were lied to about everything... the vaccines would prevent transmission' and 'they prevent infection'—claims he says are contradicted by 'the animal studies and the clinical trial showed.' He accuses the CDC of letting 'the teachers union' write school-closure orders that 'hurt working people all over the country, and then pretend it was science based.' He adds examples: 'Martin Koldor from Harvard' was 'ejected [from COVID]... because he wasn't in the orthodoxy'; 'FDA during COVID' officials 'Gruber and Krausz' criticized Biden mandates; Biden said, 'I would never take that vaccine, the Trump vaccine' then mandated it and fired top FDA officials who said it had not been properly tested.' The exchange ends with 'Yes.'

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Congressman Robert Garcia claims Donald Trump is causing chaos and doing something dangerous in DC. According to Garcia, the Health and Human Service Secretary, RFK Junior, fired all 17 vaccine experts at the CDC who were essential to the vaccination program. Garcia states that replacing them with anti-vaccine conspiracy theorists is dangerous, especially considering the 1.3 million American lives lost during the pandemic. He emphasizes the importance of vaccine safety and expresses alarm over the firings.

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Robert F. Kennedy Jr., HHS Secretary, announces with NIH Director Dr. Jay Bhattacharya and FDA Commissioner Dr. Marty Makary that the COVID vaccine for healthy children and healthy pregnant women has been removed from the CDC recommended immunization schedule. Kennedy states that the Biden administration previously urged healthy children to get COVID shots despite a lack of clinical data supporting repeat boosters in children, which Kennedy says ends today. He claims there is no evidence healthy kids need the vaccine, and most countries have stopped recommending it for children. Kennedy concludes that this action brings the country closer to realizing President Trump's promise to make America healthy again.

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The speaker discusses internal resistance to RFK Jr.’s policies and the idea that “deep staters” have been entrenched in government. They mention being forwarded an anecdote from a “good career employee.” They point to the FDA, noting that when Marty Makary came in, he had only about 10 political appointees he could choose. Jay Bhattacharya at the NIH allegedly had one political appointee. The speaker claims that every government employee is a “deep stater” who has been there a long time and that an email from a good employee circulates a CIA manual called How to Be a Bad Bureaucrat and Subvert an Institution from Within. The email supposedly asserts that 90% of employees at HHS, which has 70,000 employees, are talking in lunchrooms about the manual and telling each other that their job is to save America and save science from the agenda of President Trump and RFK Jr. The speaker asserts this reflects how people think across major departments and asks how to get rid of them, suggesting firing them as a solution, and mentions SIOP in this context. The CDC is presented as a case study of failure, described as a public health disaster in its COVID-19 response. The speaker alleges that the CDC’s guidance on school lockdowns copied directly from a teacher union document with which they were aligned, reproducing paragraphs from the teacher’s union advocating for two years of school shutdowns. It is claimed that the CDC also said that cloth masks were fine. The speaker says the CDC led the response and that the NIH funded the entire pandemic, including gain-of-function research, asserting that this constitutes “the creation of the pandemic.” In contrast, RFK Jr. is said to have fired three employees, and this action is described as national news. The overall narrative emphasizes a view of pervasive internal opposition within federal agencies, a controversial and sweeping critique of the CDC, NIH, and HHS responses to the pandemic, and a framing of RFK Jr.’s personnel decisions as transformative and newsworthy.
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