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An individual, a citizen of El Salvador, was illegally in the U.S. and was returned to his country, which is standard deportation procedure. The foreign policy of the U.S. is conducted by the president, not by a court. The Supreme Court stated that no court has the authority to compel a foreign policy function in the U.S. The speaker claims that President Trump's policy is to expel foreign terrorists who are here illegally. The speaker asks why it isn't stated that keeping criminals out of the country is a positive thing, and accuses the previous speaker of lacking credibility.

The speaker contrasts the deportation policies of Presidents Clinton, Bush, and Obama with those of President Trump, highlighting the legal challenges faced by Trump. Clinton deported approximately 12.3 million people with zero injunctions or Supreme Court interference. Bush deported about 10.3 million, also facing no injunctions or Supreme Court intervention. Obama, nicknamed "deporter in chief," deported roughly 5.3 million, similarly without facing injunctions or Supreme Court obstacles. In contrast, Trump, with approximately 100,000 deportations, has faced at least 30 injunctions and Supreme Court involvement. The speaker criticizes the lack of legal challenges to Biden's immigration policies and suggests Trump should disregard Supreme Court rulings, similar to a statement made by Biden. The speaker supports Trump deporting all illegal aliens.

If you're a criminal, you'll be deported, and if you enter the U.S. illegally, your chances of getting caught just went up. According to Speaker 1, these actions are lawful and have been taken by both Republican and Democratic presidents for the past half century. Speaker 0 claims the media portrays Trump negatively for deporting illegal alien criminals, while Obama, Bill Clinton, and other Democrats were on board with this for years. Speaker 2 states their administration has moved aggressively to secure the borders by hiring a record number of new border guards, deporting twice as many criminal aliens, cracking down on illegal hiring, and barring welfare benefits to illegal aliens. Speaker 3 says using phrases like "undocumented workers" conveys that the government is not serious about combating illegal immigration. Speaker 1 says we cannot allow people to pour into The United States undetected, undocumented, and unchecked. Speaker 2 says they will try to do more to speed the deportation of illegal aliens who are arrested for crimes and to better identify illegal aliens in the workplace. Speaker 0 claims Obama deported 5,300,000 people, and Bill Clinton deported 12,300,000, questioning why there is a sudden change of heart now.

The exchange centers on accusations of hyperbolic statements and the accuracy of quoted posts. Speaker 0 challenges Speaker 1's credibility, citing a series of posts and asking whether the statements were read correctly. - On 02/11/2026, Speaker 0 cites a Blueski post: “my words or your words, not mine. The democrats video telling service members to ignore illegal orders didn't go far enough. They should have also urged them to refuse unethical orders, whether illegal or not. There are many things deemed legal that are still obviously unethical, and everyone should hold themselves to this higher law,” and asks, “Did I read that correctly?” Speaker 1 confirms reading it and asks if Speaker 0 disagrees with it, questioning whether people should do unethical things in their capacity of [unknown context]. - On 12/31/2025, Speaker 0 references a post reading, “in front of god and country. … They referring to Republicans think they control their way into us accepting ethnic cleansing,” and asks, “Did I read that correctly?” Speaker 1 responds that it related to a DHS security post advocating a 100,000,000 deportations, stating that “A 100,000,000 deportations would be ethnic cleansing,” adding, “You would be True. One third of the country. So, yes, there are people within the Department of Homeland security.” Speaker 0 asks whether this is hyperbolic and requests more time. - On 02/05 (implied), Speaker 1 notes, “advocating a 100,000,000” but the sentence is cut off in the transcript. Speaker 0 comments, “reputations is … cleansing,” while continuing to engage in the discussion with the chair and audience; Speaker 0 asks for thirty more seconds. - On 03/02, Speaker 0 quotes Speaker 1: “if you rule against Trump's population purge agenda, no hyper permanently there, the nativists will name you, threaten you, and come after you. These judges are much braver than the ICE agents who hide behind masks while violating the constitution. They are much braver.” Speaker 1 clarifies, “They put their names on their rulings, and they stand behind their constitutional rulings. When I talk about population purge, I'm talking about the fact that they're trying to deport US born citizens, people born here. They are trying to deport them as well. So it's not a mass deportation agenda. It is also an agenda intended to reduce the population of The United States, including US born people.” - Speaker 0 responds, “Thank you.” Speaker 1 adds, “These are not hyperbolic statements. I appreciate you reading my account. Here's the good news.” The conversation escalates in tone as Speaker 0 interjects with disbelief, asking, “What planet … parachute him from?” Speaker 1 replies, “No. No.” Speaker 0 comments, “Hey, guys. You're you you You trigger my gag reflex,” and Speaker 1 closes with, “Mr. Bieber.”

The speaker points to a chart showing a sharp decrease in illegal immigration during their time in office. They claim it was the lowest in history. They criticize the current president for a significant increase in illegal immigration, estimating around 20 million people. The speaker suggests looking at more recent data for a clearer picture.

The speaker claims the incoming administration wants to rectify abuses by enforcing immigration law, stating that those who entered illegally should leave. They allege the administration is stopping deportations. The speaker asserts that, according to the courts, it is lawful to be unlawful if you're Joe Biden, but unlawful to be lawful if you're Donald Trump.

Proud people discuss Trump's deportation plans, ISIS, and police brutality. They compare Trump to Hitler, highlighting immigration policies. They argue about racism, privilege, and the changing times under Trump's presidency. The conversation is heated and emotional.

The session centers on evaluating past presidential performance and contemporary immigration politics. The speaker argues that the movement’s criticisms of immigrants and open borders would have appeared during Barack Obama’s presidency as well, pointing out that Obama is sometimes labeled “the deporter in chief.” When asked if Obama was a good president, the participants largely affirm that he did a good job: Governor Walts, Governor Pritzker, Governor Hochul, and Perryman all express the view that Obama’s presidency was good. The speaker then contends that Obama’s immigration policies were largely the same as the policies Republicans are currently opposing, noting that “Barack Obama had the very same policies for the most part on immigration that Republicans are parroting today.” The speaker contrasts this with charges that current protesters are labeling as Gestapo-like, arguing that those who advocate for open borders actually harm both Americans and those who are unauthorized immigrants, asserting that the policies do not arise from understanding or sympathy but have the opposite effect. A crucial part of the argument accuses those in power of exploiting racial identities for political ends. The speaker claims that “when you use brown people, just like they use black people with BLM and Marxists during BLM to usher that in,” money travels “back to the communist party,” and that elected officials’ platform is being used to usher in communism rather than defend American values. The speaker admonishes the audience not to roll their eyes, saying the topic is serious and that money is involved. The speaker emphasizes that the information being provided should inform decisions and asserts that if a person truly upholds American ideologies and constitutional perspectives, they should not be speaking at the rally. A formal action is announced: the speaker “authorized a letter to be sent to my office to the president of The United States to rescind millions of dollars in funding that we know are going to the no kings protest that were authorized and basically given under the last administration.” The claim is that Congress should act to protect the American people from foreign interests, foreign governments, and also the communist influence, rather than simply pointing fingers or blaming others. The statement ends with “Well, general lady yield,” signaling a procedural transition.

The speaker asserts that the Democratic party opposes federal enforcement of immigration laws and arrests/deportations of illegal alien criminals, using a "violent mob" to obstruct immigration law enforcement. They claim President Trump has a mandate to reverse Biden's open border policies and end the lawlessness of California's leaders, promising a large-scale deportation campaign undeterred by left-wing riots. Sanctuary cities will allegedly no longer shield illegal criminals. Examples of removed individuals include a Vietnamese national convicted of murder, a Mexican national convicted of child molestation, a Filipino national convicted of rape, and others with convictions for statutory rape, narcotics violations, domestic violence, and assault. An illegal alien from Mexico was arrested for allegedly throwing a Molotov cocktail at law enforcement. The speaker claims law-abiding citizens don't want these individuals in their communities. Any attempts to copy the violence to stop deportation efforts will fail, and lawlessness will strengthen the president's resolve to defend Americans from violent criminal illegal aliens.

The Biden-Harris administration is accused of releasing thousands of illegal immigrants convicted of violent crimes, including murderers and rapists. Kamala Harris is accused of lying. It is claimed that "an undocumented immigrant is not a criminal." Donald Trump warned about this and promises to deport "these thugs," secure the border, and make streets safe again. Trump states, "I'm Donald J. Trump, and I approve this message."

The speaker states that an historic flood of undocumented immigrants crossed the border during the first three years of the administration, with arrivals quadrupling from the last year of President Trump. The speaker asks if it was a mistake to loosen immigration policies. The other speaker responds that the policies proposed are about fixing a problem, not promoting one. The first speaker reiterates that the numbers quadrupled. The other speaker claims that they have cut the flow of illegal immigration by half, as well as the flow of fentanyl by half, but that Congress needs to act to fix the problem.

In the exchange, Speaker 0 recounts feedback from “real Chicagoans,” describing them as mostly Black and Brown, and claims they tell him that the other person does not seem to know the difference between illegal aliens and real Chicago citizens. He asserts that these individuals feel the other person is siding with illegal aliens over their communities. He then pivots to a direct line of questioning. The real question, as Speaker 0 presents it, concerns a violent incident: “An illegal alien from Nicaragua grabbed a woman on the North Side, bashed her head into the sidewalk, knocked her unconscious, and raped her.” He presses for a direct response about what would have happened “if that had been your wife, Stacy.” He stages the hypothetical to elicit a clear stance from Speaker 1 on how to respond to such a crime and its immigration context. Speaker 1, however, interrupts to steer the conversation away from the loaded scenario. He repeatedly signals a move on, indicating a preference not to engage with the hypothetical or to answer the pointed ethical dilemma on the spot. The back-and-forth centers on the tactic of addressing the question versus avoiding it, with Speaker 0 insisting on a straightforward answer “as a man, not as mayor, but as a man.” The exchange escalates as Speaker 0 urges Speaker 1 to provide a simple yes or no and to address the issue directly, effectively challenging Speaker 1 to commit to a position regarding ICE and deportation in light of the described crime. Speaker 1 responds by again stating to move on, resisting the direct yes/no framework. Throughout, Speaker 0 persists in pressing for a candid, personal response to the hypothetical crime and its immigration implications, while Speaker 1 maintains a boundary about continuing the discussion in that moment. Ultimately, Speaker 1 declines to answer the specific deportation question in the moment, and Speaker 0 reaffirms the demand for a direct personal answer. The segment ends with Speaker 1 thanking the audience and moving on, leaving the explicit yes-or-no question unresolved in this exchange.

Democrats and the media have portrayed deported individuals as innocent, such as a supposed father of three who was actually an MS-13 gang member. An immigration judge determined in 2019 that this person had no right to be in the U.S., also noting traffic violations and missed court dates. The speaker asserts that the individual was an illegal alien who broke laws to enter the country, and that even left-wing media didn't criticize the deportation itself, only the reasoning behind it. The speaker states that the administration does not seek permission from Democrats to deport illegal immigrants. The speaker questions why Democrats are supposedly angrier about deporting violent gang members than they are about the victims of those gang members, suggesting they have lost touch with reality.

Judge Brian Murphy blocked the Trump administration's deportation of eight illegal immigrants convicted of murder, pedophilia, and sexual abuse, arguing they deserve due process. The immigrants are currently in Djibouti awaiting adjudication. One speaker argues that these individuals did not want due process when entering the country illegally, so they shouldn't get it upon deportation. They should be deported immediately, especially murderers, pedophiles, and rapists, which is what Donald Trump is doing. The speaker believes Judge Murphy cannot override Trump's agenda to keep America safe. Trump should deport these criminals quickly to protect women and children. Some countries release violent criminals into the U.S., which is a national security problem. The U.S. has the right to stand up for its freedoms, liberty, and national security.

If you are waving a foreign flag in America while burning down a city, rioting, causing chaos, and screaming at law enforcement, get out of this country and go back to the country that you love. If you hate America and are running around waving a foreign flag while burning down police cars and looting, go back home. The speaker hopes President Donald Trump deports every single one of you. Barack Obama deported over 3,000,000 illegal immigrants, more than President Trump, but there was no outrage, riots, or protests. Biden deported some, but not enough, and there were no riots or protests. If you are an American citizen, you should be against illegal immigrants waving a foreign flag while burning down a city. Shame on you if you walk side by side with these illegal immigrants while they burn down the city and harass federal agents. Get them out of our country.

The fact that they didn't know the answers about Obama tells you everything you need to know. How many illegal immigrants did Barack Obama deport in his eight years as president? I don't know. Have a guess. No clue. Oh, I don't know. It's over 3,000,000. And he was known as deporter in chief by Mexicans. Yes. And that was more than Trump He deported way more than Trump. He deported way more pro rata than any president in history. Who dropped the most bombs in a calendar year in American history? Oh, heck. Come on. President Barack Obama. Right? Including drone programs and so on. What is still open today? Guantanamo Bay? Correct. I know that the general thing is Obama, angel, Trump, devil. Right. But if you actually apply the scrutiny that we give Trump put it this way, if Trump had deported 3,000,000 people, you think you guys wouldn't know that answer? Of course, you would.

Obama in 2009 discussed immigration, emphasizing it wouldn't be easy, requiring fines, English learning, and waiting in line for citizenship. He stressed the need for control to prevent illegal border crossings. The speaker contrasts this with the current situation, where anyone can enter the country, suggesting a return to Obama's approach.

If you're a criminal, you'll be deported, and if you enter the U.S. illegally, your chances of getting caught just went up. According to Speaker 1, these actions are lawful and have been taken by both Republican and Democratic presidents for the past half century. Speaker 0 claims the media portrays Trump negatively for deporting illegal alien criminals, while Obama, Bill Clinton, and other Democrats were previously on board with this. Speaker 2 states their administration has moved aggressively to secure the borders by hiring more border guards, deporting twice as many criminal aliens, cracking down on illegal hiring, and barring welfare benefits to illegal aliens. Speaker 3 says using phrases like "undocumented workers" conveys that the government isn't serious about combating illegal immigration. Speaker 1 says we cannot allow people to pour into The United States undetected, undocumented, and unchecked. Speaker 2 says they will try to speed the deportation of illegal aliens arrested for crimes and better identify illegal aliens in the workplace. Speaker 0 claims Obama deported 5,300,000 people, and Bill Clinton deported 12,300,000, questioning why there is a sudden change of heart now.

Speaker 0 opened by saying that over the last week he has interacted with over 300,000 plus real Chicagoans who say it is hate speech to evoke the Civil War or the Confederacy, to say that law enforcement is a sickness, while the other person has over 150 sworn CPD officers on his detail. He asked what the other person would say to those people and whether he would ask his 150 sworn officers to stand down if he and his wife Stacy are ever attacked, shot at, or rammed with a protester’s vehicle. Speaker 1 responded with sarcasm about the large number, joking that the interactions had “gone down to 300,000,” and claimed he had checked the other person’s comments. He asserted that the addiction on jails and incarceration and the addiction of militarism is evil, referencing Doctor King, and said it is incumbent to ensure that “the real Chicagoans” or the real people of America receive attention, suggesting we should spend billions of dollars overseas on the people in Chicago instead. Speaker 0 pushed back, saying that the real Chicagoans he talks to, mostly Black and Brown, feel that the other person does not distinguish between illegal aliens and real Chicago citizens, and that he is siding with illegal aliens over communities. He asserted that a recent incident involved “an illegal alien from Nicaragua” who grabbed a woman on the North Side, bashed her head into the sidewalk, knocked her unconscious, and raped her. He asked whether, if that had been the other person’s wife, Stacy, he would want ICE to deport that illegal alien, and asked for a yes or no answer. Speaker 1 pressed to get a direct answer, asking for a response “as a man, not as mayor,” and repeated the question about whether ICE should deport the rapist. Speaker 0 reiterated his question and stated that the answer for real Chicagoans is the deportation of the rapist, and that was the “answer for real Chicagoans.” Speaker 1 then apologized for being late, blaming traffic, and the other person quipped about the traffic, noting, “You’re not blaming me for the traffic, are you?” and said he had been watching.

The Biden-Harris administration has acknowledged releasing thousands of illegal immigrants with violent crime convictions. This includes murderers and human traffickers. Despite this, it's stated that an undocumented immigrant is not inherently a criminal. President Trump emphasizes the need to deport these individuals, secure the border, and restore safety to our streets. He stands by his commitment to these actions.

The speaker asks Mr. Malnik how many deportations by the new administration would be objectionable. Malnik says a million would be a disaster, and two million would have severe negative ramifications, considering they would be law-abiding people who have been in the country for decades. The speaker states that President Obama deported nearly 5,000,000 people and asks if Malnik believes Obama was immoral and inappropriate for doing so. The speaker wants Malnik to state on social media that Obama did a horrible disservice to those he deported and was as wrong-minded as Republicans who want to secure the border and deport people. The speaker argues that one cannot be okay with one president deporting people but not another.

- Speaker 0 states that criminals will be deported and that entering the US illegally increases the likelihood of being caught and sent back. They describe these actions as lawful and representative of the approach taken by every Republican and Democratic president for the past fifty years. - Speaker 1 asserts the need for tough conditions: people should be told to come out of the shadows, and if they have committed a crime, they should be deported with no questions asked; they will be removed. - Speaker 2 addresses widespread concern among all Americans about the large numbers of illegal aliens entering the country. They claim the jobs held by these individuals might otherwise be occupied by citizens or legal immigrants, and that public services used by them impose burdens on taxpayers. The administration is described as having moved aggressively to secure the borders by hiring a record number of new border guards, by deporting twice as many criminal aliens as ever before, by cracking down on illegal hiring, and by borrowing welfare benefits to illegal aliens. In the upcoming budget, there will be efforts to do more to speed the deportation of illegal aliens who are arrested for crimes, and to better identify illegal aliens in the workplace as recommended by the commission headed by former congresswoman Barbara Jordan. - Speaker 2 concludes by emphasizing that we are a nation of immigrants, but also a nation of laws. It is described as wrong and self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the abuse of immigration laws seen in recent years, and there is a stated commitment to doing more to stop it.

The speaker asserts that the Trump administration's immigration policy treats immigrants like criminals. They claim America is too great to fall prey to Donald Trump's anti-immigrant agenda. The speaker advocates for restoring basic humanity to the immigration system, starting with repealing the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 through the "Neighbors Not Enemies Act," with the goal of ending what they describe as this xenophobic law.

Donald Trump, as the speaker acknowledges, could have done more to address the issue of illegal immigration during his time in office. While he had control over both houses of Congress and the White House, the number of illegal border crossings in 2020 was around 400,000. Currently, that number has risen to nearly 3,000,000. The speaker believes that there were actions Trump could have taken to address this problem, such as building a wall. However, they also acknowledge that there were some measures implemented, although they do not specify what those were.