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To restore balance between the US and Israel and sane public conversation, the speaker says we must get our theology right. This message is aimed at Christians—the largest group of Israel supporters in the US—whose view is colored by a Christian heresy: that God prefers some people based on DNA. The chosen people, he argues, are 'the people who choose Jesus' and that is the universal Christian message. He cites Lindsey Graham and others, calling this 'not Christianity' and 'heresy.' Examples: 'Israel is our friend. They're the most reliable friend we have in the Mideast.' 'This is not a hard choice if you're an American.' 'If America pulls the plug on Israel, god will pull the plug on us.' 'God will kill you if you don't support Bibi Netanyahu.' He contends this uses God as a weapon, and 'the killing of the innocent' is forbidden; 'that person is committing heresy.'

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A partnership between Israel's Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Friends of Zion Museum led to an unprecedented visit, marking the first time Israel officially partnered with 1,000 strategic pastors to commission them as ambassadors to combat antisemitism and reach the youth of their generation. Dr. Mike Evans states that Israel's fight is not just on the battlefield, and that there is currently an ideological war that Israel's losing, so they need the evangelicals and the Zionists to fight an ideological war. One of the gathering's goals is to strengthen Christian support during a time of growing global antisemitism, with the message that the pulpit must speak louder than the propaganda. A speaker emphasizes that pastors should go to their pulpits to speak with clarity and boldness, pushing back on the antisemitism and bigotry directed toward Jewish people and toward the people of Israel. Another speaker notes that the pulpit has become quiet about these issues, and that cultural voices have spoken louder than pastors on these topics, making it motivating to return to the message of who Israel is to the Lord and to reaffirm Christians’ role in supporting and praying for Israel. There is a concern about a growing cancer within the evangelical movement in America, where people think Israel doesn’t matter and that nothing biblical supports the relationship to Israel, which is described as very dangerous. Ambassador Huckabee, a former pastor, warns of rising danger in the church, arguing that the idea that God will break His covenant or has broken His covenant with the Jewish people borders on blasphemy, because if God will break His covenant with the Jewish people, he questions what would prevent Him from breaking His covenant with Christians as well.

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Genesis: 'And God said, I will curse those who curse Israel' and 'And through you, I will bless all nations.' These quotes were spoken to Abraham. He asks, 'are Israelites or are Jews still God's chosen people?' and answers, 'No.' He cites Galatians: 'There is neither Jew nor Gentile slave nor free nor is there male or female for you all are one in Christ Jesus.' 'If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise.' He claims this provides 'clear and undeniable evidence from scripture that God said that if you are one in Christ, you are God's people, and you are the seed of Abraham.' He states, 'the modern day Jews that reside in the state of Israel are not God's people. It is the Christians, the people who are one in Christ.' He urges, 'Read these passages, read the context around them, and don't just go based upon one little pluck from the bible to base your entire belief system off of when it comes to who are God's people.'

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Speaker 0: The Israelites is not Israel. And as Tony and I are both Catholic, and so when we talk about the Israelites that are talked about in the Bible, there is a clear distinction between this prophecy about the Israelites and the government of Israel and white Europeans settling into the holy land. Mhmm. And so when we say this, like, the Israelites, the Israelites in the bible are actually the Palestinian people who have been there for thousands of years, not the white European from Ukraine or Poland or America. The Israelites are the people who were indigenous to that land that lived there for thousands of years, and those are not the people who have Trump wrapped around his finger. It's this, like, settler colonial white Europeans that have settled into the land of the actual Israelites that have either blackmailed him or cut deals with him financially. I mean, we go back to greed. Right? Greed is always, like, a big factor decisions. So Trump, in all senses, is wrapped in intertwined with this government and the Zionist regime and the Rothschilds and the Vanderbilts and the 13 rich families that control the world, basically. Right.

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As a Jewish person, I want to make it clear that I am against the existence of the Zionist State of Israel. The oppression and cruelty inflicted upon the Palestinian people is not in the name of our religion or the star of David. Judaism, as stated in the Torah, forbids Jews from having our own sovereignty since the destruction of the temples. True followers of Judaism do not aspire to have our own state or take land from the Palestinians. This goes against the principles of my religion.

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The speaker claims that the "Zionist occupation of Palestine that calls itself Israel" is built on lies and theft, having stolen the name "Israel." The name originates from the Old Testament, where Jacob was renamed Israel, and his descendants were the Israelites. Those who accepted covenants with God were part of the House of Israel, later the Christian Church established by Jesus. Rejecters of Jesus were the Jews, a pejorative term for those who rejected Christ. The speaker asserts that the true Israel is the Church, not a birthright or DNA privilege. Christian Zionists are deceived in believing today's Jews are still in covenant with God from the old covenant with Abraham. The speaker rejects Calvinist theology and predestination. In 1948, Zionists stole the name Israel to mislead evangelicals and religious Jews. Only religious fanatics in Puritan circles supported Zionism, misinterpreting scriptures. The speaker believes evangelicals are not Christians, the chosen people are not chosen, and Israel is not Israel. The true Israel is a spiritual fellowship of people with faith who follow Jesus. The Zionist occupation is a Jewish military dictatorship that has fooled religious fanatics and the secular masses.

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It's strange that many Christian conservatives/nationalists are anti-Israel, given Israel's importance to both Jews and Christians, especially concerning Jesus's Jewish heritage and biblical history. Organized tours to Israel often have more Christians than Jews. All Jewish and Christian people should care about preserving Israel to preserve biblical history. Christian history is tied to Jewish history; Christianity wouldn't exist without Judaism. God's covenant with Abraham remains with Israel and the Jewish people. Israel fights America's battles by pushing back radical Islamic jihadism. Judeo-Christian values connect Christianity, the Jewish people, Israel, and the United States. The threat in America is real; if pro-Israel events aren't safe in Texas, nowhere in America is safe for Jews or Christians who support Israel.

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You can't be a Christian and anti-Jewish, as Jesus was Jewish. However, being pro-Israel implies being pro-Zionist. The belief that the Jewish people are still God's chosen people is incorrect. The New Testament indicates that the church is now God's people. The parable of the vineyard illustrates that Israel's leaders rejected God's son, leading to the kingdom being taken away from them. Therefore, the idea that the Israelites remain God's chosen people contradicts Jesus' message about their rejection.

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To restore balance between the United States and Israel, the speaker says we must get our theology right. This is not a message aimed at Israelis or Jews; it targets Christians, the largest group of Israel supporters in the United States. He calls the belief that God favors some people by DNA 'the oldest of the Christian heresies' and says, 'The chosen people are people who choose Jesus.' He declares, 'That is not Christianity. It is heresy.' He warns that if America pulls the plug on Israel, god will pull the plug on us, and, 'God will kill you if you don't support Bibi Netanyahu.' He argues that 'The Christian message is universal' and that, 'If you find anyone leveraging the message of Jesus to justify the killing of innocents, that person is committing heresy.'

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As a Christian, I follow Jesus, a Palestinian who fled to Egypt as a child due to violence against innocent children. He was a Palestinian refugee. To my fellow Christians, please do not speak of making room for Jesus in your heart if you cannot also make room for Palestinians in need of help and safety today.

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"If Bibi Netanyahu, if he does something I don't like and if I criticize it, am I, like, a bad Christian? Absolutely not." "What I find strange is that we're able to criticize the American government sometimes in the Christian world with more freedom than the Israeli government." "To be pro Israel means you believe in the nation of Israel Mhmm. Not necessarily the government of Israel." "When you when Joe Biden was president, you and I were what we loved America, but we detested our government. And those two those two things beautifully coexisted." "Exactly. And what they don't want is they don't wanna be called bad Christians Mhmm." "If they challenge a foreign government, which is what happens so often. Right. Like you're a bad Christian if you have a question about a foreign government." "Right. That creates backlash that I don't think people understand."

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I am proud to be a Jew, and Christians have welcomed me except for some antisemitic groups. Claiming that God has abandoned the Jews is wicked. Trying to push Ben Shapiro to embrace Jesus could bring devastation. I believe God has a plan for Ben as he is. I don't think the Jews were abandoned by God.

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Speaker 0 believes Christians are biblically commanded to support Israel, based on the idea that those who bless Israel will be blessed. Speaker 1 questions if this refers to the modern political entity of Israel, with its current borders and leadership, as opposed to the Jewish people. Speaker 0 affirms that the biblical reference to Israel does indeed refer to the modern nation-state, which he says is the same nation of Israel spoken about in Genesis. Speaker 1 expresses skepticism, suggesting that most people interpret the Genesis passage as referring to the Jewish people, not necessarily the political entity of modern Israel.

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"As Christians support the government of Israel, we are commanded to support Israel." "It says that those who bless you, Abraham, this was before Israel, will be blessed by God." "And those who curse you, Abraham, will be cursed by God." "For not all who are born into the nation of Israel are truly members of God's people." "Being descendants of Abraham doesn't make them truly Abraham's children." "Israel didn't have a nation or a land to call their own for almost two thousand years since the destruction of the temple in the year seventy AD." "The nation of Israel was recreated through some political operatives after World War II." "I think the scripture makes it clear that it's about whether you're blessing or cursing the true children of Abraham, those who believe the promises of the gospel."

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The speaker challenges the idea of being "pro-Israel" based on biblical interpretations. She argues that dispensationalism, a modern church teaching, incorrectly identifies the nation of Israel as still being God's chosen people. Referencing Matthew 21, she states that the kingdom of God was taken away from the Israelites after they rejected Jesus. She cites Matthew 8, stating that many non-Jews will feast with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, while the "subjects of the kingdom" (Jews) will be thrown into darkness. She asserts that earthly Jerusalem is no longer the Jerusalem of God, replaced by the heavenly Jerusalem described in Revelation 21. Using Galatians 3, the speaker identifies Christ as the true seed of Abraham, and those baptized into Christ, regardless of ethnicity, as Abraham's seed and heirs. Therefore, prioritizing the state of Israel over Palestine is a distortion of scripture. She concludes that in Christ's eyes, a Palestinian who loves and is baptized in Jesus is more of a "real Jew" than a Jew who rejects Jesus.

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Jesus was a Jewish rabbi living in two thousand years ago. He was a rabbi from the Galilee. He came to Jerusalem. He turned the money tables. I think people forget that the world of Jesus was a Jewish world. His name is Jewish. Jesus is standing in synagogue. He's holding the scriptures. But what are the scriptures? He's holding the Old Testament. He's holding the Hebrew scriptures. For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, Jesus, the Jew. Salvation is of the Jews. The patriarchs, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, are all Jewish people. Christian, there's a Jewish man living in your heart. The scriptures are Jewish scriptures. Our Messiah is a Jewish Messiah. As Gentiles we are grafted into the root system of Israel. The church has not replaced the Jews.

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Bible is crystal clear. Jesus said to the Jews, the kingdom of God shall be taken from you and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. In the Old Testament, Israel was God's chosen people. God chose Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and he used the nation of Israel as a pattern; they were supposed to be a light to Gentiles. They failed in that mission. The Lord Jesus Christ came as the Messiah, and he came unto his own and his own received him not. The Bible squarely places the blame for the death of Jesus on the Jews. In Acts, the Romans protect Christians, while the Jews try to rip them apart and stone them; Romans restore law and order. This is why I reject Zionism and being pro Israel. I read the Bible cover to cover, 20 times, and I didn't see it because you're brainwashed.

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"If Christianity were about defending a flag, Jesus would have picked up a sword, but he didn't. He picked up a cross." "a movement that's supposed to follow that man, a man that said my kingdom is not of this world, has decided that protecting a modern nation state called Israel is the center of Christian duty." "Christianity does not require allegiance to the state of Israel." "The new Israel, the church, is defined not by soil but by spirit, not by war but by witness, and it is made up of anyone, anyone from anywhere who walks in faith." "The gospel doesn't ask you to bless a nation. It does ask you to bless the peacemakers, to comfort the mourners, to defend the innocent, and reject violence stressed as virtue."

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In a world influenced by emotions, it's vital to seek objective truth, especially regarding the identity of the Jews and their biblical significance. The term "Jew" originally referred to those from the tribe of Judah, while the broader biblical narrative includes many other tribes and nations. Historical context reveals that many who identify as Jews today may not be direct descendants of ancient Israelites. The covenant with Abraham was fulfilled in Christ, who established a new spiritual reality through the church, not a physical nation. The true chosen people are those who have faith in Christ, transcending ethnic and historical boundaries. The modern state of Israel and contemporary Jewish identity do not align with the biblical definition of God's chosen people, which is rooted in faith and grace rather than lineage or ethnicity.

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Two thousand years of Christian history have been horrible to the Jewish people. Unspeakable atrocities have been committed against your family under the banner of the cross and in the name of Jesus. Even with many lifetimes of repentance, it would not be sufficient for all that has happened. Yet tonight there is a message: a new breed of Christian is alive in the world today. There is a new breed of Christian that says, along with you, for Zion's sake, I will not be silent, and for Jerusalem's sake, I will not be still. We have been divided. There is fear. Evangelicals are all missionaries who want to return everyone to Jerusalem so the apocalypse can come, or to have nefesh ben nefesh have a good year so Jesus can return. We know the stereotypes. Jesus both unites and divides us. For Christians, Jesus is our favorite Jew; for most Jews, he’s the cousin you don’t talk about at Pesach. But in this pivotal moment of history, we have an opportunity not to be divided, but to be unified. Everyone in this room—Christian and Jew—prays for the same thing: the coming of Mashiach. May he come soon and quickly and in our day, so we can all sing. And when Mashiach comes, there will be a great press conference in Jerusalem. The BBC and the New York Times will not be invited. The Jerusalem Post will conduct the interview with Mashiach and ask, is this your first visit or your second? The answer will be yes. None of us need to be ashamed or embarrassed or wrong. We are together ascending the hill of the Lord. Until Mashiach comes, we must unite and work. We must become partners—evangelical Christians, eagle's wings, and Jews—as partners in the divine will, working as never before, because we face the same threat. We face radical Islamic ideology on one hand, and radical wokeism and communism on the other hand, an unholy alliance against Western civilization. Against that unholy alliance, there must be a holy alliance that arises of Jews and Christians working together for the betterment of all the human family. It must happen, and it must happen now. Speaker 1: I’m now going to invite CEO of the Jerusalem Post, Ibn Bar Ashkenazi, to give the Shield of David Award to Bishop Stearns.

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As a Jewish person, I want to make it clear that I am against the existence of the Zionist state of Israel. The oppression and cruelty inflicted upon the Palestinian people is not in the name of our religion or the Star of David. Judaism and the Torah forbid Jews from having our own sovereignty since the destruction of the temples. We are also forbidden from killing or stealing. Taking land away from the Palestinians goes against my religion and is completely contradictory.

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The speaker challenges the idea of being "pro-Israel" or pro-Zionist, asserting it stems from a misinterpretation of the Bible and dispensationalism. They claim the New Testament indicates the nation of Israel is no longer God's chosen people, but rather the church. Using biblical passages, the speaker argues that the kingdom of God was taken from the Israelites after they rejected Jesus. They state that believers in Jesus, regardless of ethnicity (Jew or Gentile), are the true seed of Abraham and heirs to the promise. The speaker contends that earthly Jerusalem lost its significance after rejecting Jesus, replaced by the heavenly Jerusalem. They equate Zionism with being anti-gospel and anti-Christian. The speaker questions favoring Israeli children over Palestinian children, asserting Jesus loves all equally. They believe those who die in Christ are perfected and united in love in Jesus' presence, transcending earthly divisions.

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I was once asked why evangelical Christians are so supportive of Jewish people and Israel. The answer is simple: you can be Jewish and have nothing to do with Christians, but I can't be Christian and not have everything to do with the Jewish people. My faith, scriptures, and everything I believe is built on that foundation. We are people of the book. If you read in Genesis that God blesses those who bless Israel and curses those who curse Israel, it becomes very clear.

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Christians should support the biblical Israel, not the current state of Israel. Criticizing those who claim to be Jews but are not is mentioned in the Bible. Questioning and criticizing should be allowed, as it is a red flag when certain groups or narratives cannot be questioned.

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Israel’s Purging of Christians From the Holy Land and the Plot to Keep Americans From Noticing
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The episode centers on a provocative interview about the fate of Christian Palestinians and the broader consequences of Israeli settlement policies in the West Bank. The host frames the discussion as a search for truth in a charged atmosphere, challenging the conventional Republican of U.S. support for Israel and the way critics are labeled. The guest, a Palestinian Christian from Beit Sahour, describes a life shaped by multiple imperial rulers and details ongoing settlement expansion, road networks that favor settlers, and checkpoints that restrict movement for Palestinians. He recounts personal trauma, including his mother being shot in front of him during a historical flare of violence, and frames these experiences as part of a systemic pattern of displacement that threatens a historically continuous Christian presence in the Holy Land. The conversation emphasizes moral and theological questions about land, divine right, and justice, arguing that Christian Zionism—when it prioritizes a political homeland over the gospel’s universal scope—has contributed to the suffering of local Christians. The interview repeatedly calls for a shift from polarized, tribal rhetoric toward practical peace-building and accountability, insisting that faith must translate into reconciliation rather than conquest. The guest argues that the Bible’s overarching message is inclusive, transcending a restricted geopolitical promise, and he critiques Western politicians and clergy who allegedly promote a model of land-back and divine ownership that harms indigenous Christian communities. He contrasts Western democratic ideals with the biblical injunction to love enemies, pursue peace, and work for justice for all, including Palestinians and Israelis alike. In closing, the guest highlights the need for Christian leadership to engage in constructive dialogue, support humanitarian initiatives, and resist political spectacles that weaponize faith, while underscoring that true peace requires addressing the suffering of vulnerable Christians in Beit Sahour, Gaza, and beyond.
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