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The speaker claims that someone, presumably a former FBI director, called for the assassination of the president. The speaker states that the individual knew exactly what he was implying, and that this implication was clear. The speaker believes the individual apologized, but doesn't want to apologize for advocating violence. The speaker calls this person a "dirty cop" and says his history is not clean. The speaker does not want to take a position on what should happen as a result of the alleged assassination call, but will leave the decision to others. The speaker suggests that leniency might be understandable if the individual had a clean history, but because he doesn't, the speaker is less inclined to be lenient.

The speaker discusses the need to revisit past assassinations for transparency and change. They mention the shift from physical to narrative assassinations and the CIA's control over the government. The speaker emphasizes the importance of strong leadership to address these issues. They also highlight the CIA's influence on media and government decisions. The conversation touches on the documentary "Flynn" and the impact of Donald Trump's presidency. The speaker expresses concern over the CIA's departure from its mission and the need to address government manipulation.

The speaker was asked what they would say to those who think a shooter is a hero because he killed a health care executive who presided over a system that allegedly kills thousands of Americans by denying them coverage. The speaker responded that one should still try to make an argument and find a way to convince people and change the system that way, as violence is not the answer. The speaker stated that there may be things wrong with the healthcare system. The speaker does not believe there is anything heroic about the shooter's motives.

The administration is taking threats against President Trump seriously, with the Secret Service director leading the investigation. A recent Rutgers study found that over 55% of respondents felt that murdering President Trump would be "somewhat justified." The study also indicated an "assassination culture" is emerging on the extreme left. The speaker asserts that people must be held accountable for publicly calling to assassinate the President of the United States, regardless of political affiliation.

The discussion centers on Charlie Kirk and the handling of his death. The speakers are uncertain about the official account and call for a truly rigorous and honest federal investigation. Specific points raised include: - A claim that Canada said Egyptian-registered aircraft followed Charlie Kirk’s widow, Erika Kirk, around for years in various places; the speaker asserts this is factually true and notes it is a very strange data point, though its meaning is unclear. - A claim that Erika Kirk’s event had a disproportionately large number of foreign-registered cell phones, which is also stated as true. - The speakers emphasize that the FBI has a moral and legal obligation to investigate openly and to consider all possibilities, applying the same process as in science, journalism, and law enforcement. They express a lack of confidence in the FBI and the officials who run it, and argue that honesty and a coherent narrative are needed to restore public trust. - Foreknowledge of the incident is discussed: posts on X allegedly predicted that Charlie Kirk would be killed on the date of the college event in Utah. The question is raised about whether those posts were just guessing and whether those involved have been interviewed by the FBI to determine how they knew what they knew. - The speakers compare the investigation to other events, suggesting that if they investigated, they would examine who publicly posted foreknowledge and seek detailed explanations: who they spoke to, what they know, and how to verify it. - There is a request for an explanation of how the killer transformed into a radical, violent actor, with a note that the speaker does not automatically endorse trans ideologies but wants to understand the radicalization process. - The speakers discuss Candace Owens’ role: the controversy and turmoil surrounding her claims, and the idea that those in authority are responsible for the investigation, not individuals like Candace or podcasters. - A concluding sentiment expresses greater trust in Candace Owens’ intent than in the average DOJ official, framing Candace’s presence as filling a vacuum left by authorities, while insisting that the people in charge must restore confidence through honest reporting and a plausible narrative.

The speaker asserts that former FBI Director James Comey's use of "86" regarding Trump was a veiled call to assassination, referencing the "8647" slogan used by anti-Trump protesters. They claim Comey is lying about not understanding the meaning, especially given his background prosecuting mobsters who use similar language. The speaker highlights a Rutgers study indicating that over 55% of respondents felt assassinating Trump would be "somewhat justified," attributing this to figures like Comey. They emphasize the seriousness of the threat, citing past assassination attempts and the influence of figures like Comey on public perception. The speaker believes Comey should be held accountable under the law for issuing what they view as a direct threat against the President, potentially goading authorities to make him a "political martyr." They state that someone making similar threats against them is currently jailed and indicted. They conclude that Comey should be in jail due to the potential impact of his words on those who take him seriously, given his stature and media portrayal.

The speaker asserts that the investigation was conducted properly and according to protocol. They claim that regardless of high-level decisions regarding public statements, the investigative work itself was done correctly by the men and women involved. The speaker encourages listeners to be assured that both investigations followed proper procedure.

The speaker discusses potential security failures in protecting the president at an event. They suggest the need for a thorough investigation to understand what went wrong and prevent future incidents. The speaker emphasizes the importance of transparency and accountability in addressing security concerns. They stress the need for a comprehensive inquiry before making any accusations. The conversation highlights the significance of ensuring the safety of the president and the American people.

The speaker wants the subjects to admit and stop committing fraud, and to correct old records. The speaker claims to have found over 100 accidental deaths, including blunt force trauma and acute fentanyl overdoses, that were falsely classified as COVID deaths after the bodies were tested for COVID. The speaker alleges that COVID death numbers were inflated to instill fear.

The speaker, a sheriff, believes that Ashley Babbitt was murdered during the Capitol shooting. They express their knowledge of use of force and highlight their concern that the investigation into Lieutenant Byrd, who shot Babbitt, did not go to a grand jury. They argue that all law enforcement shootings should be sent to a grand jury for the confidence of the American people. The speaker hopes that when a new president is elected in two years, the shooting of Ashley Babbitt will be presented to a grand jury as a minimum commitment.

Speaker 0 questions Speaker 1 about expressing "joy" over a CEO's death and posting an image of another CEO. Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1 of condoning assassination. Speaker 1 denies celebrating the death itself, but expresses joy that the "brutality of our healthcare system was finally being acknowledged." Speaker 1 claims 70,000 Americans die yearly due to lack of health insurance, calling the healthcare system "murderous" and "violent." Speaker 1 says they were describing the mentality of supporters, not their own beliefs. Speaker 0 asks Speaker 1 to condemn those who praise assassination. Speaker 1 refuses to condemn those who praise the CEO, stating they don't "believe in things like souls." Speaker 1 says they specialize in extremism and want to understand ideologies, even those of violent extremists. Speaker 1 condemns the violence of the healthcare system. Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 1 condemns people that call for assassination. Speaker 1 wants Speaker 0 to acknowledge that half of bankruptcies are due to healthcare costs. Speaker 0 states anyone who wants to assassinate any innocent person is wrong. Speaker 0 asks Speaker 1 to condemn those who want to be involved in assassination.

The speaker is part of a senate bipartisan investigation into an assassination attempt. According to the speaker, the Secret Service and FBI are dragging their feet and not providing requested documents, such as 302s and interview transcriptions. Documents that are provided are heavily redacted and delivered the day of the interview, making them unusable. The speaker believes this behavior is suspicious and fuels conspiracy theories. They claim releasing the body for cremation before autopsy or toxicology reports further drives suspicion and conspiracy theories.

The speaker expresses concern over extreme rhetoric surrounding Trump, linking it to recent violence. They call for an end to hyperbolic statements from all elected officials. Another speaker mentions Trump's strong criticism of Biden. Both emphasize the need to calm down and address the dangerous escalation of rhetoric to prevent further violence. They stress the importance of leaders tamping down on inflammatory language to avoid inciting more violence.

Speaker 0 says the MAGA crowd was trying to characterize the assassin as anything but one of them because the guys the 22 year old kid in Java's family was MAGA. As if a 22 year old with a trans girlfriend never rebelled against their family. He adds, I mean but was he on the left? I don't know that either. The remarks reflect a dispute over how political identity is attributed to the shooter and reveal uncertainty about the attacker's exact political alignment, highlighting skepticism about simplifying motives to a single label. The exchange centers on how media and audiences might interpret the killer's beliefs through family affiliations and slogans rather than direct evidence.

Speaker 0 expresses concern about the administration’s response to the incident, noting that very quickly, very high up people, including Christine Ohm, Donald Trump himself, and Shady Vance, started calling the killed woman a domestic terrorist and saying she deserved it. The speaker argues that when a relatively young mother of three is killed by a law enforcement officer, government officials should say this was a tragedy, that they will conduct an investigation, and they will see what happened, instead of “running cover for the officer,” because such conduct erodes public trust. The speaker emphasizes that many things about the response freaked people out and describes it as disturbing to have people calling the woman a domestic terrorist. The question is raised: “What the fuck does that even mean?” The speaker notes that even if she did try to run the officer over, it’s not terrorism, and questions what people are talking about when they use that label. There is a critique of how words like “terrorist” are used loosely and how they have “lost meaning,” with the speaker asserting that this is the kind of rhetoric that is used to paint people in certain ways. The speaker draws a comparison, suggesting that labeling someone a terrorist resembles tactics used against Palestinians, where everyone is painted as a terrorist. The rapid labeling is described as part of a broader pattern of invoking terrorism to justify actions or narratives. The speaker concludes with a conditional reflection: if someone is a terrorist, then “actually anything goes,” signaling a perception that the label is being used to bypass normal standards or accountability.

The speaker emphasizes the need for de-escalation of the ongoing violence.

Speaker 0 argues that “they are not here to cause safety in this city” and that “what they are doing is not to provide safety in America.” They claim those actions are “causing chaos and distrust,” and that such actions are “ripping families apart,” and “sowing chaos on our streets,” adding that in this case they are “quite literally killing people.” The speaker contends that the opposing side has already begun to frame the incident as an action of self-defense, and, after having seen the video themselves, states directly that this portrayal is “bullshit.” They insist that the situation does not reflect self-defense but rather that “this was an agent recklessly using power that resulted in somebody dying, getting killed.”

Speaker 0: He delivered a speech at Riverside Church on 04/04/1967, a year to the date before he was assassinated. And that was a powerful anti war speech that he delivered. Speaker 1: What would you say was the significance of that particular speech? Speaker 0: The real significance was that it put him, his footprints heavily into the anti war movement for the first time. And he termed The United States the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today. And so he was rising as a severe principal critic of the government in that speech. Another negative significance is that he was attacked from all sides. He was called a traitor by mainstream media. Millions of dollars were withdrawn from his organization, Southern Christian Leadership Conference. So he lost a great deal by taking that position. All of that is significant. Speaker 1: What do think was the primary motivation behind the killing? Speaker 0: I think assassinations, political assassinations are a last resort, as a rule. But I think in terms of The United States from what I've observed and throughout its history, and there have been assassinations other than those in the sixties, remember, I think it's a last resort. I think if they can, if a person is troublesome to them and potentially can develop a following, I think they have to stop him. Now they can do that by rendering him unemployable, by having him set up in some kind of a scandal or sexual activity that destroys his credit or her credibility. They can buy him off by giving him a job or position. There are a variety of techniques by blacking them out in terms of the media. And so if they can't control any other way, and the person is that critical in terms of potentially mobilizing people, that's when political assassinations take place. Assassination is the last resort. Martin King was assassinated not only because he was bringing enormous thought to the whole Vietnam War effort opposing it and the corporate militarists of the society, the weapons providers, energy providers, all of that were going to lose huge fortunes of money if that war ended. So it was not only that but it was the fact that he was going to bring half a million people to Washington in the Poor People's March. And the military believed that they would see their mission as a failure because they would go to the congress, try to get them to change the the priorities for public funding from from the military, take some money from the military, and bring it into social services programs, and they wouldn't be successful. And that would that would radicalize the group to such a point where they might have a revolution on the streets of Washington with masses they couldn't control. They didn't have the troops. Westmoreland wanted 200,000 more in Vietnam. They didn't have those. They certainly didn't have the troops to put down that kind of revolution on the streets. So they had to kill King, make sure he didn't bring that kind of dynamic into Washington.

Speaker claims, "Brother Charlie got murdered, assassinated a few days ago, but the truth is he was assassinated a few years ago." They argue that electing people who demonize their political opponents leads to violence, adding, "So you might have pulled the trigger yourself." The speaker asks, "Who demonize political opponents? Who call political opponents enemies, Hitler, a threat to democracy, who say because we disagree, if you see someone, walk up to them and if they're eating in a restaurant, tell them they're not welcome, get in their face." They warn, "When you start saying stuff like that, calling your political opponents Nazis, fascists, stuff like that. Well, sooner or later, a kook is gonna hear that. A crazy person is going to hear that, and they're going to act on it."

The transcript covers several interwoven topics and claims: - Ghislaine Maxwell and Trump administration connections: Maxwell was allegedly hired to do PR for the Trump administration last month when she sat for an interview with Todd Blanche, Trump’s former personal attorney and now deputy attorney general. The segment characterizes the piece as deal-making, with Maxwell purportedly giving glowing testimony about Trump to help address the Epstein files in exchange for a cushier, minimum-security prison placement and possible pardon considerations. The speaker says this is “insane from start to finish” and criticizes Trump supporters’ reactions. - Epstein/Maxwell trial details and evidence: The speaker asserts that the worldwide sex trafficking network was exposed, leaders identified (one allegedly died mysteriously in prison; the other was convicted in court). Maxwell’s trial is described as featuring “the four best witnesses” from a pool of more than 100 accusers. Maxwell is said to have been convicted by a jury on trafficking-related charges based on “mountains of evidence” including documentation, photos, videos, and financials, not only victim testimony. Maxwell is said to have recruited young girls in person, with specifics on where recruitment occurred, amounts paid, and tactics used, as well as how it was covered up. The speaker claims co-conspirators remained free, and over 100 corroborating witnesses provided consistent narratives. Maxwell allegedly faced two counts of perjury, which the DOJ settled to secure the trafficking conviction, and the perjury charges were not tried. The speaker asserts that conspiracy theories about the case are dangerous. - Alleged lies in Maxwell’s testimony: Maxwell allegedly claimed there were never cameras inside Epstein’s homes or in “inappropriate” rooms, with explicit language such as “no cameras anywhere outside of possibly things that would, I would consider normal.” The speaker contends there are “literal photos of cameras in his bedroom,” FBI seizure of binders with photos and videos, and other evidence of cameras and blackmail. Maxwell is said to have claimed she never recruited anyone from Mar-a-Lago, contradicting Trump’s corroboration that Virginia Roberts Giuffre was recruited from Mar-a-Lago. The photo of Maxwell with Virginia Giuffre and Prince Andrew in Maxwell’s London apartment is cited as evidence of the involvement of Epstein trafficking networks; the speaker notes it has been verified by forensic experts and a photographer, including a Walgreens-developed stamp on the back implying a 2001 development date. - Photo controversy and settlements: The photo is described as genuine, with multiple verifications. It is claimed Prince Andrew paid millions to Virginia Giuffre to avoid facing her in open court, and Maxwell allegedly paid Virginia millions to settle a defamation suit. - Leaked emails involving Ehud Barak: The speaker discusses newly highlighted emails from Ehud Barak that appeared online, stating there are over 100,000 emails to and from Barak that have been circulated and verified, with a time span of 10/10/2014 to 09/09/2015. The dataset reportedly contains over 83 emails between Jeffrey Epstein and Ehud Barak, many short and focused on arranging meetings, access, money, and investments. The company Reporti (now Carbine 911), an Israeli cyber tech company, is mentioned as a recurring topic, with Epstein and Barak involved in investing alongside Peter Thiel’s Founders Fund (Thiel’s fund invested $15,000,000 in 2018; Epstein invested $1,000,000 in 2016 via offshore shell companies). Johnny Vedmore’s reporting on Nicole Junkerman and related pieces is noted. The speaker mentions an online intelligence service Barak reportedly subscribed to for $3,000 annually that monitored powerful people (Clintons, Gates, Bezos, Putin, Netanyahu) and suggests patterns of surveillance on major figures. - Other ongoing stories: The presenter notes additional stories, including Trump allegedly “going socialist” and nationalizing part of Intel, CDC leadership disputes involving Bobby Kennedy and Susan Menoras, and labor actions by CDC staff. The Israel-Gaza situation is described with claims of civilian casualty rates at 83% of deaths in Gaza, two separate strikes on a hospital, and PR responses by Israel. The transcript also references Ron DeSantis launching an Israel license plate in Florida, Beverly Hills voting to display Israeli flags in public schools, and public backlash leading to backpedaling. A closing critique links ethnonationalist ideology to Nazi Germany, questioning the notion of Jews as God’s chosen people. - Closing notes: The host promises more reporting on these topics, mentions upcoming collaborations and documentaries, and signs off with personal reminders. A closing line from Speaker 1 remarks that “Our security is at stake.”

Speaker 0: Let's say it clearly, it's murder. We can even call it a massacre. We have to say it, even if it's extreme. If we don't, people might not wake up to what's happening. Each and every citizen needs to understand that democracy is at stake. The only option we have is to speak up and tell the truth as it is. Translation: Let's say it clearly, it's murder. We can even call it a massacre. We have to say it, even if it's extreme. If we don't, people might not wake up to what's happening. Each and every citizen needs to understand that democracy is at stake. The only option we have is to speak up and tell the truth as it is.

Speaker declares a political shift: "I was an old school democrat. I will never vote a fucking democrat ever." "I was a purple party independent. You lost me. I'm all red now." He condemns those who "celebrate and rejoice in the murder and assassination of someone who just was giving a different point of view than what you're used to in the fucking colleges these days" and says "You are and will always be part of the problem if you're rejoicing in that." He notes "He was a family man. He just came and was respectful to everybody and was assassinated for it." The speaker concludes, "It's fucking pathetic, and so as what the Democratic Party has become."

Speaker 0 asks Speaker 1 to condemn those who call for assassination. Speaker 1 responds that they condemn the violence of the system and wants Speaker 0 to acknowledge that. Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 1 condemns people that call for assassination, and Speaker 1 says they would love for Speaker 0 to acknowledge what they're actually saying. Speaker 1 states that 70% of Americans believe that insurance company practices are responsible in part for Thompson's death. Speaker 0 says anyone who wants to assassinate anyone is wrong. Speaker 1 says that to prevent further deaths and gun violence, one needs to understand motives and ideology. Speaker 0 asks Speaker 1 to condemn those who want to be involved in assassination. Speaker 1 says they are describing his supporters who do believe that, and it's important to understand the ideology of anyone that would advocate for violence. Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 1 condemns his supporters. Speaker 1 says they believe in free speech. Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 1 condemns those that support violence. Speaker 1 says people are exercising their right to free speech and talking about the fact that over 320,000 people died from lack of health insurance in the first two years of the pandemic alone. Speaker 1 says we have a violent health care system that needs reform.

The speaker was asked what they would say to those who think a shooter is a hero because he killed a healthcare executive who he believed was presiding over a system that kills thousands of Americans by denying them coverage. The speaker responded that they don't know what to say, but that one should try to make an argument and convince people to change the system that way, as violence is not the answer. The speaker stated that they don't think there is anything heroic about the shooter's motives.

The speaker expresses concern about the urgency of a report being released within 60 days, given the high threat environment in the United States. They emphasize that this is not a political game, but a matter of safety for important targets both internationally and domestically. With an assassination attempt on a former president recently, answers are needed before any decisions are made.