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The speaker explains the difference between Jews and Zionists. They state that Zionism is the opposite of Judaism, as it mistrusts God and goes against religious beliefs. Zionists are accused of committing crimes by taking land from others through killing and robbery, which goes against the commandments of not killing and not stealing. This is the fundamental difference between Zionists and others.

Zionism, a political philosophy behind Israel, is distinct from Judaism. The founder, Theodor Herzl, was an atheist seeking a state for Jews. Zionism is labeled as satanic, imperialistic, and racist for displacing Palestinians through terrorism. The speaker urges the US to stop funding Israel and instead support the homeless domestically.

This message is for religious Jews from Jerusalem, Palestine, and around the world. True religious communities oppose the entire occupation by the State of Israel because it goes against our covenant with God. The state of Israel is a nationalist movement that started over 100 years ago, rebelling against God. They use Jewish symbols but are stealing Palestinian homes and disregarding the Torah's prohibition on Jewish sovereignty since the temple's destruction 2000 years ago. Our rabbis in Palestine support these facts.

The discussion opens with Speaker 0 noting that the first foreign visit by a New York City mayor is significant and asks where each candidate would go first. Speaker 1 (Cuomo) replies, “First visit, I would visit The Holy Land.” Speaker 2, addressing hostility and antisemitism in New York, adds, “Given the hostility and the antisemitism that has been shown in New York, I would go to Israel.” Speaker 0 then directs the question to Speaker 2 (Tilson). Tilson responds, “Yeah. I’d make my fourth trip to Israel followed by my fifth trip to Ukraine, two of our greatest allies fighting on the front lines of the global war on terror.” Speaker 0 moves to Speaker 3 (Mamdani), who says, “I would stay in New York City. My plans are to address New Yorkers across the five boroughs and focus on that.” Speaker 4 interjects with a follow-up to Mamdani: “Mister Mamdani, can I just jump in? Would you visit Israel… as mayor?” Mamdani answers that as mayor, “I'll be doing as the mayor, I'll be standing up for Jewish New Yorkers, I'll be meeting them wherever they are across the five boroughs, whether that's in their synagogues and temples or at their homes or at the subway platform because, ultimately, we need to focus on delivering on their concerns.” The conversation then covers a direct question: “And just yes or no, do you believe in a Jewish state of Israel?” Mamdani replies, “I believe Israel has the right to exist.” Speaker 4 counters, “Not Israel. State?” Mamdani responds, “Notice. As a state with equal rights.” Speaker 1 presses Mamdani further, noting, “He won't he won't say it has a right to exist. Does a Jewish state be very clear?” Speaker 2 adds, “Answer was no. He won't visit Israel.” Mamdani claims, “I I said that That's what he was trying to say. No. Unlike you, I answered unlike you, I answered the question directly. Alright.” The conversation then shifts to Speaker 5, who shares a personal rationale: “My my goal would be to take my first trip to Israel. My wife's life work in this area means a lot to our family, and it could coincide with my young son, Miles, bar mitzvah, if you'd like to have his bar mitzvah.” Speaker 2 interjects briefly, “Okay. But” before the excerpt ends.

This message is for religious Jews from Jerusalem, Palestine, and around the world. We, as religious communities, oppose the entire occupation of Israel, not just a two-state solution. Judaism is about being subservient to God, a covenant we made 3000 years ago. However, the state of Israel, which started over 100 years ago, is a nationalist movement that rebels against God. They use Jewish symbols but are stealing Palestinian homes and disregarding the Torah's prohibition on Jewish sovereignty since the temple's destruction 2000 years ago. Our rabbis in Palestine support this fact.

Speaker 1 treats the period starting 10/07/2023 as possibly the biggest turning point in Jewish history, perhaps the greatest since the fall of the temple. He notes Judaism has survived numerous catastrophes, but this could be a spiritual catastrophe for Judaism itself. He warns that events in Israel could destroy two thousand years of Jewish thinking, culture, and existence. He highlights a worst-case scenario of an ethnic cleansing campaign in Gaza and the West Bank resulting in the expulsion of 2,000,000 Palestinians. He argues this would accompany the establishment of Greater Israel, the disintegration of Israeli democracy, and a new Israel based on an ideology of Jewish supremacy and on anti-Jewish values. He portrays a country worshiping power and violence, militarily strong and economically viable, and concludes that no Jew anywhere will be able to deny this would be the real Judaism.

The speaker discusses entitlement to a homeland and the beliefs of Orthodox Jews regarding exile and punishment. They state that “none of these Jews, Zionists, whoever's on board, I'm not sure who's who, acknowledge that, in fact, Orthodox Jews don't believe, and I can readily acknowledge that the Jewish people are not entitled to a homeland because they're supposed to live in exile because they broke the covenant with God many times. So that's their punishment, and that's what's in their text.” They emphasize that the belief is “very simple” and reject the idea that the issue is complicated. They note that not all Jews were exiled from ancient Israel, with some remaining, some exiled, and some converting to Christianity or Islam. The speaker then brings in a point about historical coexistence. They reference Tom, acknowledging that Jews did lead peace peacefully in Muslim countries such as Morocco, and “also under the Islamic caliphate, the empire actually for what, eight centuries in Spain, where Jews, Muslims, and Christians lived peacefully and thrived.” They describe this period as a time when “there were amazing scientific discoveries that happened then. There was amazing philosophy. There was amazing literature works that were created from it. It was a beautiful time for everybody. We all lived in harmony.” The narrative continues to contrast this harmony with a later development. They state, “And then what happened? Well, I think we already know what happened.” They attribute the change to the arrival of “the Christians” and then reference “the Christian fundamentalists, the radicals” who came and wrote, implying a disruption or end to that era of coexistence. In summary, the speaker presents a sequence: (1) Orthodox Jewish belief that Jews are not entitled to a homeland due to covenant-breaking, viewed as a straightforward issue; (2) acknowledgment that not all Jews were exiled, with variations including those who remained, were exiled, or converted; (3) recognition of a historical period of peaceful coexistence among Jews, Muslims, and Christians under Islamic rule in places like Morocco and medieval Spain, accompanied by significant scientific, philosophical, and literary achievements; (4) a claim that Christian fundamentalists and radicals later ended that harmony, marking a shift from the prior era.

Jake Gilbertson, known as Jake GTV, is a content creator, author, and health coach, and the creator of Jake GTV News, an AI-driven satirical news channel. He discusses building his platform by covering topics he says mainstream media avoids, including Zionism, censorship, the Maui fires, corruption, cult activity, and hidden influence networks, and says he began making YouTube videos as a kid, including exposing satanic cults and controversial topics. During the conversation on *Inside with Sam* (host Sam Sankar and co-host Eric Warsaw), Jake and the hosts reference traveling and speaking at events connected to Palestine, including “Little Palestine” in Paterson, New Jersey. They discuss what they describe as a serious conflict involving “a foreign country” and argue that increased public speaking is occurring compared with earlier years. Jake credits social media for enabling a “great awakening” and says he believes major industries and institutions suppress information, while also claiming that major pharmaceutical companies and economic influence networks (including BlackRock, under Larry Fink) control aspects of the economy. He also claims that media ownership is concentrated among six major companies and that the music industry, Hollywood, and artists are managed through “handlers.” Jake describes what he says is a long-running belief that secret groups run industries and that his early understanding included Illuminati and “New World Order” ideas. He connects this to what he describes as anti-human agendas, climate-change messaging, and changes he associates with the COVID-19 pandemic and vaccination campaigns. He also says he noticed gatekeeping and industry manipulation through his observations of mainstream artists’ behavior and symbolism, and says he later researched “MKUltra,” claims he heard about LSD fragmenting personalities, and traces connections through major music and banking figures. On music industry gatekeeping, Jake argues that access and contracts push “degeneracy,” discusses “killing” and deaths he associates with the “twenty-seven Club,” and interprets shifts in artists’ behavior as attempts to escape contracts. He expands on the idea of contracts being tied to artists’ names and says he believes blackmail plays a role in keeping people compliant, referencing cases he compares to Epstein-style dynamics. He further discusses intelligence-agency tactics he says resemble how record-label and industry power operates, and connects these ideas to other historical claims about blackmail and institutional control. The discussion includes extended claims about symbolism and control in banking and finance, including references to the Rothschilds and Star-of-David-related ideas, plus a description of how bank and media control supposedly expand influence across governments. Jake argues that media control prevents knowledge from emerging and ties this to claims about Epstein documents and “worst stuff” allegedly hidden from public view. Jake also recounts an on-site interview at a Palestinian festival where he questioned rabbis who are described as pro–free Palestine and anti-Zionist while still practicing Judaism. He says their answers involved discussion of Jewish persecution history, including claims that their grandparents were in the Holocaust. He describes asking about Talmud-related interpretations he says he considers problematic and reports that the interview became evasive, with runaround and vague responses. He also describes additional claims about religious texts and Jesus-related themes, and concludes by calling for speaking openly and removing taboos for “objective conversations.” The conversation shifts to health and autism statistics. Jake claims that one in twelve and a half boys in California have autism, says diagnosing increases are cited as explanations, and argues instead for possible links to vaccination practices. He argues that vaccines stimulate immune responses and cites ingredients like aluminum and formaldehyde as part of his concerns. He also discusses claims about polio, ADT exposure, natural immunity, and how pandemics allegedly became “business,” including claims that COVID mitigation required compliance and that boosters would continue. He then discusses transgender-related politics and school influence, including comments about what he describes as a health adviser (Rachel Levine) and argues that labeling prevents questioning. Jake argues that exposing children to sexual content and endorsing puberty blockers and related treatments should be handled differently, and says he interviewed people in college who supported giving puberty blockers to minors. He ties the autism and health discussion into food and environmental concerns, including claims about pesticides, “glyphosate,” tap water contamination, and disputes about dairy and raw milk, as well as claims about formula ingredients. He also references RFK Jr.’s book *The Real Anthony Fauci*, and summarizes his view that pandemic preparedness and major corporate investment practices were pre-planned and benefited large investors while harming small businesses. Near the end, Jake argues that “ICE” and related systems use software described as “Graphite,” linking it to AI targeting and surveillance, and claims that this is part of a broader compliance system. He describes “digital twin” mapping ideas and says he believes COVID was a test of compliance involving rules about vaccines and climate-change beliefs. He concludes with a call for speaking truth publicly and avoiding fear. The hosts close by thanking Jake, saying he showed up for Palestine Day and Paterson, New Jersey, and saying the podcast will continue with more episodes.

I am Rabbi Jacob Miller of Turcata International, a group of Jewish rabbis protesting the occupation in Gaza. Creating Israel by displacing others goes against Jewish law. Judaism is not the same as Zionism. Opposing Zionism is not anti-Semitic; it's about justice and peace. Jewish people worldwide seek a free Palestine, ceasefire, and end to occupation. We pray for peace in Palestine.

The speaker emphasizes that the conflict in Israel is not due to religious differences. They argue that the state of Israel does not represent all Jews or the Jewish religion. According to Jewish beliefs, creating a sovereign state through violence and oppression is forbidden. The speaker criticizes those who misuse religion to justify crimes. They believe that the root cause of the conflict is the oppressive occupation of an entire people. The speaker advises Israeli leaders to end the occupation and return the land to the indigenous population.

Rabbi David Weiss strongly denounces the Zionist state of Israel, emphasizing that the oppression and cruelty against the Palestinian people are not in the name of Judaism or the Jewish people. He argues that Judaism forbids Jews from having their own sovereignty and entities, and that taking the land from the Palestinian people contradicts his religion. Rabbi Weiss asserts that Jews have always opposed the Zionist entity and stands in solidarity with the suffering of the Palestinian people. He criticizes the Zionist movement as a political material movement created by heretics, using religion to silence opposition. Rabbi Weiss believes that supporting the state of Israel actually exacerbates antisemitism.

Jews who adhere to the Torah oppose Zionism and the state of Israel as it contradicts their belief in a Jewish state. They view Israel's creation in 1948 as an occupation of another people's land, leading to oppression, killings, and land theft. This violates human rights and international norms, as well as the core principles of Jewish faith. We stand in solidarity with the suffering Palestinians, asserting that Israel's actions are illegitimate. The only solution, in our view, is a peaceful dismantlement of Israel, which we perceive as the obstacle to peace in Palestine. Prior to Israel's establishment, there was peace in the region.

A Jewish speaker opposes Zionism, stating that it is not anti-Semitism to be against it. They share personal experiences of facing backlash for their beliefs. They explain that Zionism is a movement that started 150 years ago by Jews who were not practicing their religion and wanted a homeland. However, Judaism forbids having their own state. They highlight the historical support and acceptance Jews received from Muslim countries. The speaker criticizes the Zionist movement for disregarding the rights of Palestinians and accuses them of using PR tactics and political pressure to silence opposition. They emphasize their belief in coexistence with Muslims and express empathy for Palestinian suffering.

"As Christians support the government of Israel, we are commanded to support Israel." "It says that those who bless you, Abraham, this was before Israel, will be blessed by God." "And those who curse you, Abraham, will be cursed by God." "For not all who are born into the nation of Israel are truly members of God's people." "Being descendants of Abraham doesn't make them truly Abraham's children." "Israel didn't have a nation or a land to call their own for almost two thousand years since the destruction of the temple in the year seventy AD." "The nation of Israel was recreated through some political operatives after World War II." "I think the scripture makes it clear that it's about whether you're blessing or cursing the true children of Abraham, those who believe the promises of the gospel."

Judaism is a centuries-old religion, while Zionism is a newer movement that transformed religion into nationalism and materialism. Non-religious Jews who disliked Judaism created Zionism, initially considering Uganda as a location for a Jewish state. They used Jewish symbols and names to legitimize their existence and silence criticism by labeling it as anti-Semitic. However, this is far from the truth. Muslim countries, like Turkey, have historically been supportive of Jewish people. Zionism goes against the teachings of the Torah, which forbids Jews from having their own state. The creation of Israel in Palestine, a land already inhabited by Palestinians, contradicts the principles of compassion and non-violence. Many Jews, including rabbis, oppose Zionism and its actions.

Bible is crystal clear. Jesus said to the Jews, the kingdom of God shall be taken from you and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. In the Old Testament, Israel was God's chosen people. God chose Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and he used the nation of Israel as a pattern; they were supposed to be a light to Gentiles. They failed in that mission. The Lord Jesus Christ came as the Messiah, and he came unto his own and his own received him not. The Bible squarely places the blame for the death of Jesus on the Jews. In Acts, the Romans protect Christians, while the Jews try to rip them apart and stone them; Romans restore law and order. This is why I reject Zionism and being pro Israel. I read the Bible cover to cover, 20 times, and I didn't see it because you're brainwashed.

Jake Gilbertson, known as “Jake GTV,” is introduced as a content creator, author, health coach, and the creator of Jake GTV News, an AI-driven satirical news channel. The host describes Jake’s platform as covering topics they say mainstream media avoids, including Zionism, censorship, the Maui fires, corruption, cult activity, and hidden influence networks. The conversation centers on narratives Jake says people have been afraid to discuss, and on how social media and “the great awakening” have changed public openness. Jake and the hosts discuss a war they frame as occurring between the U.S. and a “foreign country” they describe as a domestic terrorist. They say seeing people at “Little Palestine” in Patterson, New Jersey prompted calls to speak up. Eric says it took early “first round” figures to break taboos, describing a social “group psychology” that makes certain topics scary to discuss. Jake connects increased speaking to social media and claims that events such as 9/11 and the pandemic led many people to question authorities. A major theme is “control” by powerful institutions. Jake links Big Pharma, media, and finance to coordinated influence. He claims large pharmaceutical companies and investors behind them (including BlackRock under Larry Fink) exert control over the economy. He also claims media concentration, stating that six companies own 90% of media. He connects this to entertainment and alleges that music and Hollywood involve gatekeeping and systems that push “degeneracy,” including sexual “degeneracy” and violence. Jake describes early personal beliefs, saying he became aware of “secret groups” and industry manipulation in adolescence, including Illuminati and “New World Order” ideas. He claims university environments taught him that “white people are the problem,” and that he noticed what he described as anti-human messaging. He says he viewed climate change “virtue signaling” as part of an “anti-human” agenda and connected it to efforts to reduce population through vaccines, citing claims about Bill Gates proposing reducing global population via vaccines. He also attributes changes in society to control of farms and agriculture, alleging that major companies fill grocery stores with corn, soy, and wheat products and use pesticides. He explains how he entered media production: editing videos in middle school, making a lip-sync video that reached 1.4 million views, then beginning vlogs and skits. He became involved in music production, worked with artists, and invested in studio gear. During music industry involvement, he claims he noticed mainstream artists using symbols and acting in ways he interpreted as evidence of “MKUltra,” saying he looked into MKUltra after observing performers’ behavior. Jake references claims that MKUltra fragments personalities using LSD and describes alleged gatekeepers behind it. The hosts shift to gatekeeping and entertainment contracts. Jake claims major artists’ contracts include their names and that labels may enforce control through exploitation, blackmail, and forced degeneration. He references a “27 Club” and interprets artists’ deaths and behavioral changes as tied to contract escape attempts, citing Miley Cyrus’s transition from “Hannah Montana” as an example of trying to break free. Jake also discusses blackmail narratives involving intelligence and law enforcement figures. He claims CIA-related files (MKUltra and JFK) were brought up and then blocked from release. He compares music executive Puff Daddy’s tactics to intelligence agency methods and says some cases point to Israel. He also claims weapons were sent “pre-1948” and then connects timelines to Israel’s creation in 1948 and the creation of CIA and Mossad shortly thereafter. A later segment focuses on religious authority and the Palestinian festival. Jake says he interviewed rabbis in the Palestine movement who support “free Palestine” and are anti-Zionist while still believing in Judaism, and he says he asked questions about their history of being kicked out of many countries. He reports that one rabbi responded by saying his grandparents were in the Holocaust. Jake describes the rabbi as evasive when asked specific questions about Talmud passages (including claims about circumvention of “a goy” and statements about Jesus). He says the rabbis he encountered were recording and circling him, that he later received a request for the interview footage, and that he believes they “danced around” his questions. Jake expands on comparisons between policies he opposes and “blame” tactics he says others use. He makes claims about 9/11, alleging insurance, insider knowledge, demolition terminology, and Israeli involvement via arrests and sightings. He also references additional assassination and attack incidents, describing alleged “decoys” and unusual survivals/witness roles, and argues that “coincidences” consistently involve a small portion of the population he targets. He then moves into health topics. Jake says autism rates are rising, citing a claim that “one in twelve and a half boys in California now have autism” based on state health data. He links the topic to vaccine schedules and discusses aluminum and formaldehyde in vaccines, arguing for case-by-case necessity evaluation. He also claims polio was already being eradicated before vaccines and that certain substances used earlier were causing symptoms similar to polio. He discusses HIV AZT and claims it was harmful, then argues that Anthony Fauci and COVID vaccine policies were pushed despite earlier controversies, citing a book by RFK Junior. He also talks about autism-related diet and gut-health themes, including claims about raw milk and criticism of formula ingredients and agricultural practices. In the final portion, Jake argues that compliance and control mechanisms operate through systems he links to finance and “ESG” scoring. He claims ICE uses a spyware platform called Graphite, rebranded as “Immigration OS,” that maps and scores populations to target people labeled as “domestic terrorists,” and he describes this as an extension of surveillance tools used elsewhere. The discussion ends with thanks to Jake for attending “Palestine Day” in Patterson and a closing call emphasizing “free Palestine” and “free America from the Zionist occupied government.”

I want to address who pro-Zionists are and clarify some common misconceptions. Being pro-Israel isn't about being anti-Jewish, as Jesus himself was Jewish. However, the New Testament indicates that the nation of Israel is no longer God's chosen people; that title now belongs to the church. True Jews are those who follow the Lord's laws and ethics in their hearts, not just outwardly. In fact, those who reject Jesus are like the sons of Hagar, not of Sarah. There's neither Jew nor Gentile, but Christ, and Christ's kingdom doesn't favor any human government, and we shouldn't prioritize any nation over Christ. When we see children being killed, whether Israeli or Palestinian, it breaks Jesus' heart. We should be pro-Jesus and his kingdom and remember our brothers and sisters in Christ, even Palestinian Christians.

The speaker discusses the persistence of claims that Adolf Hitler was Jewish, Zionist, or connected to Jewish heritage, and argues that these claims are unfounded and perpetuated by rumor rather than solid evidence. He notes how the Internet has changed information dissemination, making it easy for unvetted claims to spread globally. Key points: - Two prevalent themes in the Patriot movement are (1) that the Nazis took over America, with claims like Jim Mars promoting this fraud, and (2) the claim that Adolf Hitler was Jewish, used by some to distance themselves from antisemitism. - Adolf Hitler was not Jewish. The speaker cites Martin Kerr’s 1982 essay, The Myth of Hitler’s Jewish Grandfather, to outline why the Jewish-grandfather claim is unsubstantiated. - Kerr explains several versions of the myth: - The notion that Alois Hitler’s fatherhood came from a Jewish grandfather named Frankenberger or a Rothschild figure, which Kerr states are unsupported by evidence. The speaker notes that Alois Hitler’s paternity can’t be linked to such figures, and a photo does not support those genealogies. - The claim that a Polish Jew named Hitler (a name shared by a Jewish newspaper figure) was Hitler’s grandfather is invalid because that Jew was born in 1832, only five years older than Hitler’s father, making him impossible as the sire. - Claims from an anti-Hitler German who was part Jewish are dismissed as unfounded. - Hans Frank’s memoirs (In the Face of the Gallows) are discussed, where Frank claimed he investigated threats to expose Hitler’s alleged Jewish ancestor, but the speaker notes it’s impossible to document a Jewish grandfather for Hitler. Werner Maeser, a German historian, is cited: no Frankenberger family lived in Graz in the 1830s, a Jewish presence there was absent, and Maria Schickelgruber (Hitler’s mother) could not have been impregnated by a Jew in Graz prior to Alois’s birth. - Ian Kershaw is cited as noting there was no evidence of a Jewish Frankenberger in Graz; Frankenreiter existed but was not Jewish. - The speaker emphasizes that Hitler’s alleged Jewish ancestry is unsupported by credible scholarship. He mentions that some narratives arise from a book sometimes titled Hitler, Founder of Germany or Hitler, founder of Israel, which he criticizes as poorly translated and unconvincing evidence. He mentions Colonel Don DeGrand Prix referenced this questionable book, but the speaker asserts the book’s content is weak. - He distinguishes that while there were Jews in Hitler’s military due to Nuremberg Laws’ definitions, and some individuals of Jewish descent fought in German forces, this does not prove Hitler was Jewish or Zionist. - He asserts: Hitler was not Jewish, not Zionist, and not Rothschild-connected. He warns against repeating rumors and urges reliance on solid research. - He reiterates that the idea of Hitler being Jewish, a Zionist, or connected to the Rothschilds is a myth, and insists listeners should abandon it and seek verifiable evidence. He ends by stating there were elements in Hitler’s government that supported Jewish immigration to Palestine for strategic reasons, but that does not equate to Hitler being Zionist or Jewish.

The speaker emphasizes that the promise of land for the Jewish people in the Bible is conditional upon maintaining a high moral standard. Going back to the land by force is seen as a rebellion against God, and instead, they should patiently wait for the Messiah. The speaker compares this to a child disobeying a punishment, implying that going back to the land during exile shows a lack of care for God's decree. They argue that Jews should remain in exile and follow God's will, as instructed by the rabbis throughout history. The speaker questions why no previous leaders advocated for forcefully returning to Israel, suggesting that staying in exile and waiting is the way of Judaism.

The Jewish people have been attached to the land of Israel for 3,500 years. The loss of their land occurred during the Arab conquest in the 7th century when Arabs took over the land and made the Jews a minority. Despite being dispossessed and scattered, the Jews never gave up their dream of returning to their ancestral homeland. In the 19th century, they started coming back and building farms and factories. The conflict with the Palestinians arises from their refusal to accept a Jewish state, claiming it as their own. The speaker argues that while Palestinians can live alongside Jews, they cannot demand the dissolution of the Jewish state.

A speaker identifying themselves as Jewish with critical thinking skills questions where information comes from and asks to see sources. They reference opening the Torah and reading the story of how Jewish people ended up in Israel, then challenge the audience about Abraham’s origins and knowledge of his story. They state that Abraham comes from what is now present-day Iraq, and they question what the story with Abraham, the Jewish people, and God is. They assert that Jewish people are not indigenous to Israel and recount a version of the biblical narrative: God speaks to Abraham and offers a present of “free land” for the Jewish people, telling Abraham to take them to a land filled with milk and honey, and that Abraham leads the people there. They ask what happens when they get to Israel and note that there were already people there. They claim that God told Abraham to slaughter and expel those people from the land, identifying those people as the indigenous inhabitants. The speaker condemns what they describe as others on the app presenting this information as fact, expressing concern that Jewish people themselves may not know their own history or the history of their religion, culture, and land. They juxtapose this with broader historical tragedies, suggesting that if readers have wondered what they would have done during the Holocaust, civil rights movement, slavery, and Canada’s genocide of indigenous people, they should look at what people are doing in the present. They argue that worldwide tragedies and genocide continue because people are afraid to speak out due to social repercussions. Throughout, the speaker emphasizes the following core claims: - Abraham originated from a region corresponding to present-day Iraq, not Israel. - The narrative involves God presenting “free land” to the Jewish people and Abraham leading them to this land. - Upon arrival, the land already had indigenous inhabitants. - The divine instruction attributed to God to Abraham was to slaughter and expel those indigenous people. - Many individuals on the app propagate incorrect historical claims as fact, and some Jewish people may lack awareness of their own historical and religious background. - The speaker connects current fear of speaking out to historical and ongoing acts of mass violence and genocide, urging people to speak out rather than stay silent. The speaker ends by linking contemporary social fear to historical injustices, calling for greater courage to speak out.

Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss the basis for Jewish connection to the land and who has a legitimate claim to it. Speaker 0 begins by stating that there are about 16,000,000 Jews in total worldwide, with 8,000,000 living in the area being discussed, and the remainder living mainly in New York, South Florida, and a few other places. He notes that this is a small population with historical and biblical connections to the land, and asks if such a connection exists. Speaker 1 responds that Bibi’s family lived in Eastern Europe and that there is no evidence they ever lived in the land, and that he isn’t religious. He questions whether there is a true ancestral link. Speaker 0 asks whether there is evidence of any genuine ancestral connection. Speaker 1 asks if there is a family tree for Bibi, and if not, whether anyone has one. Speaker 0 asks how they know, and Speaker 1 elaborates that the point is to establish an ancestral connection to the land. He notes that there has been a practice of Judaism and a connection to the language, suggesting that Bibi has fought for the land, and that his family has fought for it. He raises an obvious, meaningful question: where does this right come from? He explains that many people in the territory Israel controls, particularly in the West Bank, have genetic evidence of having been there for thousands of years, with many identified as Christians for two thousand years, and even if some did not practice Judaism or were Samaritan or pre-Islam, the question remains: how do they compare in terms of rights to someone whose ancestors lived in Latvia or Poland and were Jewish? He questions the basis of being “Jewish” by faith, language, or Torah. Speaker 0 challenges the question, asking how we know if Bibi’s ancestors ever lived there, and expresses confusion about what Speaker 1 is trying to determine. Speaker 1 emphasizes that a claim of rights based on ancestral presence is significant because many claims hinge on whether ancestors lived there, whether money flowed, and whether displacement occurred. He reiterates that it is not a theoretical issue like a grandparent’s distant past, but a real question of who has the right to be there. Speaker 0 remains unable to fully process Speaker 1’s point.