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Speaker 0 claims that “Eastern European Jews … 92% … originally Khazar” were a warlike tribe driven from Asia to Eastern Europe; a Khazar king allegedly adopted monotheistic faith by spinning a top, establishing synagogues, and creating “so called Jews,” with “not one of them” having ancestors in the holy land, “the foundation of all the misery that has befallen the world.” Speaker 1 describes the “Greater Israel Plan”: Israel must become the imperial regional power and “divide the whole area into smaller states,” stirring sectarian hatred to justify its existence; targets include Syria, Jordan, top of Saudi Arabia, half of Iraq, and Lebanon; cites the “Yinon Plan” and “Israel's sacred terrorism” and the 1978 invasion of Lebanon, asserting Khazars hijacked major faiths to advance a “new world order.” Speaker 2 cites Ben Gurion predicting a “one world system” presided by Jerusalem and a federated union with an international police force. Speaker 1 claims ISIS is tied to Western design; “ISIS got started through funding from our friends and allies.” Speaker 4 notes orders to speed ISIL training.

The speaker claims that many Jews in present-day Israel are not descendants of the Judeans or the lost tribes of Israel, but rather descendants of the Khazars from Eastern Europe. They argue that these Jews cannot trace their ancestry to ancient Palestine and are not Semites. The speaker questions why the history of the Khazars and their kingdom is not taught in schools or included in history textbooks. They suggest doing some cross-checking and mention that even the Jewish encyclopedia acknowledges the existence of the Khazars.

The speaker discusses the identification of different groups as the surviving members of the race of Israel, including the Anglo-Saxons, Scandinavians, and Germanic peoples. They then explore the questions of who the Jews are and whether Jesus Christ was a Jew. The speaker argues that Jesus was not a Jew by religion, as he followed the true religion of the Old Testament and criticized the Jews for their abandonment of it. They also claim that Jesus was a pure-blooded Israelite of the tribe of Judah. The Jews, on the other hand, are described as a mixture of various Canaanite peoples, Edomites, and later the Khazars. The speaker concludes by stating that the Anglo-Saxon and related peoples are the living descendants of the Israelites.

Speaker opens with the judge’s instruction that if a witness lies even once, you may disregard all testimony. He then asserts that 'The Jews... so called Jews' are Khazars, a warlike people who formed an 800,000-square-mile Khazar kingdom in Eastern Europe after being driven from Asia; he claims 'Eastern European Jews... form 92%' of those who call themselves Jews. He says they adopted Judaism as a state religion, built Talmudic schools and synagogues, and that 'not one of them' has an ancestor who 'put a toll in the holy land.' He questions Christian support for repatriating 'God's chosen people' to Palestine, saying 'you worship a Jew.' He argues 54,000,000 Chinese Muslims have 'accepted Islam,' and that claiming they are Arabs is false; notes Mongoloid ancestry in Europe and cites Spain. He concludes with media control enabling people to be misled: 'black is white if you heard it often enough.'

Speaker asserts that European Jews, 92% of the world Jewish population, were originally Khazar, a warlike tribe that lived in Asia and were driven into Europe. To simplify history, they allegedly formed the Khazar Kingdom—800,000 square miles—with no Russia or other countries, the biggest kingdom in Europe. When monarchs wanted to war, the cow gods would loan them 40,000 soldiers. They were phallic worshipers. The king supposedly adopted a monotheistic faith—Christianity, Islam, or Judaism (really communism). By spinning a top, he picked Judaism, and sent to the Talmudic schools of and Surah, bringing up thousands of rabbis, opening synagogues and schools in a kingdom of 800,000 people, 800,000 square miles, and maybe 10 to 20,000,000 people, becoming what we call Jews. There wasn't one of them that ever had an ancestor that ever put a toll in the holy land, not alone in Old Testament history, but that's the

Speaker 0: The Israelites is not Israel. And as Tony and I are both Catholic, and so when we talk about the Israelites that are talked about in the Bible, there is a clear distinction between this prophecy about the Israelites and the government of Israel and white Europeans settling into the holy land. Mhmm. And so when we say this, like, the Israelites, the Israelites in the bible are actually the Palestinian people who have been there for thousands of years, not the white European from Ukraine or Poland or America. The Israelites are the people who were indigenous to that land that lived there for thousands of years, and those are not the people who have Trump wrapped around his finger. It's this, like, settler colonial white Europeans that have settled into the land of the actual Israelites that have either blackmailed him or cut deals with him financially. I mean, we go back to greed. Right? Greed is always, like, a big factor decisions. So Trump, in all senses, is wrapped in intertwined with this government and the Zionist regime and the Rothschilds and the Vanderbilts and the 13 rich families that control the world, basically. Right.

It's claimed that the Jews are God's chosen people, the Jewish homeland is Israel, the Jews believe in the Old Testament, and the Old Testament is about Jews. However, almost none of these facts are true. The speaker differentiates anti Semite from anti Jewish, tracing the Semites to Shem and stating Abraham never was a Jew. He explains Israel would have 12 sons and that Judah, the father of the Jews, passes the Abrahamic blessing to Joseph's line, creating 13 tribes. The homeland story centers on the Land Of Canaan conquered after Exodus; Canaanites and Baal; borders by Joshua; civil war between Joseph's and Judah's lines; kingdoms of Israel and Judea; Judea renamed Syria Palestinia after conquests. The Jews are said to revere the Talmud over the Old Testament; Nero and Rome; two groups around Jesus; and that the Bible is not only about Jews.

The speaker examines the claim of ethnic cleansing by Israel against Palestinians by presenting population statistics. They highlight the significant decrease in Jewish populations in various Arab countries since 1948, while the Arab population in Israel has increased. The Jewish population in Morocco, Algeria, Indonesia, Libya, Egypt, Yemen, Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon has drastically declined, while the Arab population in Israel has grown to over 2 million. The speaker questions who is actually engaging in ethnic cleansing based on these statistics.

The speaker discusses the achievements of the Jewish people and their influence in various areas, such as finance and politics. They mention the creation of Israel and the role of Jews in the Soviet Union. The speaker suggests that the Jewish community aims to save Israel and predicts that if they fail, they will return to Russia. They also mention the influence of Jews in America and their alleged plans to provoke a war between Muslims and Europe. The speaker concludes by stating that creating a Jewish state is challenging and that America is not a viable option due to its changing demographics.

Modern Jews are not descendants of the biblical Israelites, but rather Turkish Khazars who converted to Judaism in medieval times. They have no blood link to the biblical Israelites. The concept of Palestine being their homeland is a tragic mistake. The true Israelites have not returned, as those claiming to be Jews are impostors. The Jewish control of American society, politics, and religions is increasing. The so-called Jewish Holocaust is questioned, and the true identity of Jesus is debated. The synagogue of Satan is mentioned, and the deception surrounding the image of Jesus is highlighted.

DNA tests are allegedly prohibited in Israel because they would reveal that virtually no Ashkenazi Jews are Semitic or have ancestral connection to Palestine. The speaker claims to have met Chinese, Vietnamese, and African Jews, none of whom are native to Palestine. The speaker states that some Ashkenazi Jews are entirely European in their DNA. The speaker recounts being assaulted by a BBC manager who had recently converted to Judaism. The speaker believes that converting to Judaism does not give someone the right to displace Palestinians.

The speaker discusses the origins of the Jewish population, claiming that the majority are descendants of the Khazars, a warlike tribe from Eastern Europe. They explain how the Khazars adopted Judaism as their religion and spread it throughout their kingdom. Another speaker talks about the Greater Israel Plan, which aims to make Israel the dominant power in the region by dividing neighboring countries into smaller states. They mention the Nile and Euphrates rivers as part of this plan. The speakers also suggest that the Khazars have infiltrated various religions and are using supremacist ideologies to create a new world order. They criticize the actions of leaders like Sisi and Assad, and question the true motives behind groups like ISIS.

Dante Fortson presents a case for undeniable evidence that Ashkenazi Jews are not simply converts or “proselytes” and argues that historical and scientific sources support that Ashkenazi Jews are not descended from the ancient Near Eastern Israelites in the way they are often portrayed. He frames the discussion around Genesis 10 and the genealogy of Ashkenaz as a grandson of Japheth, asserting that Ashkenaz is identified among the Gentiles and that the biblical designation aligns with Japheth’s lineage, not Shem. He uses this to challenge the narrative that Ashkenazi claims are purely Khazar or Khazarian. Fortson emphasizes that the claim Ashkenazi are not the original people of the book is not unique to Israelites; he says other sources have made similar points, and he intends to link biblical text with contemporary research. He references the 16th- to 20th-century scholarly conversation around Ashkenazi origins, including the Thirteenth Tribe hypothesis by Arthur Kessler, which argued that Ashkenazi Jews descended from Khazars rather than from Semitic Israelites. He notes that Kessler’s thesis has been controversial and often challenged by urban apologetics. He then introduces Shlomo Sand, who wrote The Invention of the Jewish People, highlighting Sand’s claim that mass conversions and the lack of a continuous, verifiable diaspora narrative complicate the traditional view of Jewish origins. Fortson provides several non-Israelite sources to support the claim that Ashkenazi origins are European rather than Near Eastern. He cites Arthur Kessler’s 1976 book asserting that Ashkenazim are Khazars, and he cites Shlomo Sand’s 2008 work arguing that Jewish origin narratives are largely inventions of modern historiography. He juxtaposes these with references to Khazar history, arguing that the Khazar Empire’s role in European history is often emphasized by various historians but contested by others. He then brings in genetic research to support a non-Near Eastern origin for Ashkenazi Jews. He cites a January 2006 US National Library of Medicine/National Institutes of Health report (Technion and Rambam Medical Center study) showing that four founding mothers who lived in Europe about a thousand years ago were the ancestors of about two-fifths of Ashkenazi Jews, with the remaining 60% showing more heterogeneous origins. He provides links to the study and summarizes that Ashkenazi maternal lineages largely trace to European origins. Fortson also references a 2013 Nature Communications article stating that the majority of Ashkenazi Jews are descended from prehistoric European women, and that Ashkenazi maternal lineages do not originate primarily in the Near East or from Khazar mass conversions. He quotes the Nature Communications report, which notes that female ancestors converted to Judaism in the North Mediterranean around two thousand years ago and later in West and Central Europe, and that the findings contradict the notion of a Near Eastern or Khazar origin for most Ashkenazi mitochondrial lineages. He brings in a 2014 LA Times/AP report concluding that all Ashkenazi Jews alive today can trace their roots to a founder group of about 330 people who lived during the Middle Ages, a finding tied to a genome sequencing study published in Nature Communications. He emphasizes that this origin narrative aligns with European roots for Ashkenazi Jews rather than Levantine origins, while Sephardic Jews are described as originating from regions around the Mediterranean (Portugal, Spain, the Middle East, and North Africa). Fortson cites the Encyclopedia Britannica entry on Ashkenazim and its distinction between Ashkenazim and Sephardim, noting that Ashkenazim historically lived in the Rhineland and later spread to Poland, Lithuania, and Russia, with cultural and linguistic differences such as Yiddish usage. He uses this to argue that Ashkenazi identity involves specific historical, linguistic, and geographic contexts that diverge from a simple Near Eastern origin. A recurring theme is the contrast between biblical/literary claims of lineage and modern scientific evidence. He discusses Jew FAQ’s explanation of who is considered a Jew (mother-line descent or formal conversion) to illustrate the complexity and exclusivity of Jewish identity, arguing that even within Jewish sources there is a recognition of a group that is not easily identified as originated from the Near East. Fortson repeatedly asserts that the presence of European ancestry in Ashkenazi lineages, and the visual mismatch between biblical assumptions and genetic/population studies, undermines claims that Ashkenazi origins are exclusively Semitic or Near Eastern. He argues that these conclusions are supported by multiple independent sources, including government and academic outlets, and that opponents who rely on a Levantine-centric narrative often fail to address these receipts. Throughout, Fortson challenges what he describes as a promotional narrative from urban apologetics that labels questions about Ashkenazi origins as antisemitic or racist. He contends that scientists and historians outside the Israelite-centered frame have produced consistent findings that Ashkenazi origins are European, and that the biblical Ashkenaz is linked to Japheth’s line in Genesis, rather than to a simple Near Eastern origin story. He invites viewers to examine the linked sources in chat and description, urging critical examination of receipts and encouraging continued exploration of the topic. In addition to the main discussion, Fortson plugs forthcoming content: a video on the Ravi Zacharias scandal and a Berean TV segment addressing ten billion cities in the coming kingdom, as well as commentary on doctrinal issues in Christianity and the interactions among various apologetics communities. He closes by reiterating that patrons will receive app access early and promoting ongoing fundraising and publication efforts, while stressing the importance of examining sources to understand the origins and identity of Ashkenazi Jews.

The speaker presents a hypothetical scenario regarding DNA testing between two populations connected to a geopolitical region. The core claim is that, if one conducted a comprehensive DNA test across Palestinians as a group and compared the results to a comprehensive DNA test across Israelis as a group, the Palestinians would show more actual genetic ties to the landmass in question than Israelis would. The speaker further notes that the Israelis are mostly of Eastern European origin, implying that their genetic ties to the landmass would be comparatively weaker or less direct in this hypothetical comparison. In essence, the assertion is that Palestinians have greater genetic connections to the landmass than Israelis, with the caveat being the geographic and ancestral characterization of the Israeli population as predominantly Eastern European. The statement is framed as a bet or wager on the outcome of such DNA testing, emphasizing the perceived difference in genetic affinity to the land between the two populations. The speaker uses the contrast between Palestinians and Israelis and makes explicit the claim about the Israeli population’s ancestry, labeling it as mostly Eastern European, to contextualize the expected results of a land-based genetic link. The overall point hinges on the comparison of genetic ties to the same landmass, projecting that Palestinians possess a stronger genetic connection to that land, while the Israeli population, described as largely Eastern European, would not exhibit the same level of connection in the same test. This summarization captures the comparison, the populations involved, the landmass reference, and the stated ancestry descriptor for Israelis, as presented by the speaker. No additional arguments or external information are introduced beyond what the speaker asserted. The emphasis remains on the proposed outcome of a hypothetical, comprehensive genetic comparison and the stated ancestry characterization of Israelis.

The speaker claims that the present Jews in Palestine are not descendants of the Judeans or the lost tribes of Israel, but rather descendants of the Kazars from Eastern Europe. They state that the Jews in Eastern Europe were never semites and cannot be considered semites in the future. The speaker questions why the origin and history of the Khazars and the Khazar Kingdom are not taught in history textbooks or courses. They suggest cross-checking the information, even referring to the Jewish encyclopedia for confirmation.

The speaker asserts that every Israeli prime minister has a fake name and that many changed their original European Jewish surnames to sound more Jewish or Middle Eastern. The speaker claims various examples: - David Ben Gurion: original name Gruen; changed to sound more Jewish and Middle Eastern. - Benjamin Netanyahu: real name Milkovsky (also stated as Malikowski in places); the speaker urges checking to verify Milkovsky. - Moshe Sharet: original name Chertok. - Levi Eshkol: original name Shklonik; changed to Eshkol. - Yigal Allon: original name Peikovits. - Golda Meir: real name Mabovich (not Golda Meir). - Yitzhak Rabin: real name Rubitsov. - Yitzhak Shamir: original name Yezernitsky; noted as being on a British wanted poster in Palestine for terrorism. - Shimon Peres: original name Persky. - Ehud Barak: original name Brog; changed to Barak. - Ariel Sharon: original name Shinerman; changed to Sharon. - Yair Lapid: original name Lample; changed to Lapid. The speaker emphasizes that Israelis are European Jews who do not come from Palestine and argues they want others to believe they are indigenous to the land; thus, they changed names to obscure their Eastern European origins. The pattern highlighted is that these are Eastern European names, not Palestinian or Middle Eastern, implying a claim about origins and ethnicity. The discussion centers on name changes as a deliberate act to redefine identity, with multiple examples presented to illustrate the point.

Many Jews in Palestine today come from Eastern Europe, specifically from a group called the Khazars. The Khazars were a nation that not many people know about. These Eastern European Jews cannot trace their ancestry back to ancient Jews in Palestine. They are not semites and never have been. The history of the Khazars and their kingdom has been kept out of history textbooks and classroom courses. Even the Jewish encyclopedia confirms this.

The speaker claims that Eastern European Jews, who constitute 92% of the world’s Jewish population, were originally Khazar. The Khazars are described as a warlike tribe from deep in Asia who were so formidable that even neighboring peoples drove them out of Asia into Eastern Europe. To explain Eastern Europe, the speaker states that the Khazar Kingdom was the largest country in Europe, spanning 800,000 square miles, and that there were no Russia or other countries at that time. The Khazars allegedly loaned 40,000 soldiers to other monarchs when they went to war, illustrating their immense power. The speaker notes that the Khazars were phallic worshipers, labeling this as filthy, and says this was part of their pagan or barbarian religious practices. According to the account, the king grew distrustful of the kingdom’s degeneracy and chose a monotheistic faith—either Christianity, Islam, or what is known today as Judaism (described pejoratively as “communism” here). By randomly selecting a faith with a spinning top, the king purportedly chose Judaism and established it as the state religion. He then sent to the Talmudic schools and brought up thousands of rabbis, opening synagogues and schools across the Khazar kingdom. The size of the population is given as 800,000 people in a territory of 800,000 square miles, with the speaker asserting there were perhaps 10 to 20,000,000 people who became Jews under this system. A central claim is that none of these Jews had an ancestor who ever paid toll in the holy land, extending this assertion back not only to the Old Testament but to “the beginning of time.” The overall narrative suggests that the modern Jewish population in Eastern Europe arose from the Khazar conversion to Judaism, resulting in a large, mono-religious community in that region.

In this video, the speaker discusses a book written by Benjamin H. Friedman, a Jewish man, who challenges the belief that present-day Jews in Palestine are the true descendants of the Judeans. According to Friedman, they are actually descendants of the Khazars. He also claims that the word "Jew" was only introduced in the English language in the 18th century, and Jesus referred to himself as a Judean, not a Jew. The speaker verifies that the Latin words inscribed on the cross during Jesus' crucifixion support this claim. The speaker emphasizes that the term "Jew" has both religious and governmental connotations, while "Judean" is purely geographical.

It's a pretty known fact that the Jews are God's chosen people, that the Jewish homeland is Israel, that the Jews believe in the Old Testament, and that the Old Testament is about Jews. However, almost none of these facts are true. "Nowhere in the Bible does it call the Jews God's chosen people." "The Jews don't really believe in the Old Testament, and only maybe 5% of the people in the Old Testament can even be considered Jewish." "the expression anti Semite literally means against Shem or his descendants. However, being anti Jewish isn't the same as being anti Semitic." "Shem is the son of Noah, the guy who built the ark when Mesopotamia flooded." "Except Abraham has never been a Jew nor will he ever be a Jew."

The speaker claims that several common beliefs about Jews are false: that they are God's chosen people, that Israel is their homeland, that they believe in the Old Testament, and that the Old Testament is about them. The speaker asserts that the term "anti-Semite" is misused, as Semites include Assyrians, Babylonians, and Persians, not just Jews. Abraham was a Hebrew, not a Jew, and God promised he'd be the father of many nations. The Abrahamic blessing passed to Jacob (Israel), whose son Judah fathered the Jewish people. However, Israel favored Joseph, whose sons Ephraim and Manasseh received the Abrahamic blessing. The speaker says that the Jewish homeland, Israel, was originally Canaan, inhabited by immoral Canaanites. After a civil war, Jews ruled Judea, while Joseph's sons ruled the Northern Kingdom of Israel. The Jews were later conquered by Babylonians and Romans, leading to revolts and banishment. The speaker alleges that Jews don't truly believe in the Old Testament, prioritizing the Talmud, which contains disparaging remarks about Jesus and Christians. The speaker concludes that the Old Testament isn't primarily about Jews, as many figures like Moses and Paul were not Jewish. The speaker states that the Bible encompasses the history of various nations, not just the Jews.

The speaker discusses the origins of the Jewish people, claiming they are not descendants of the ancient Israelites but rather pagan Khazars who converted to Judaism. He questions the support for Israel, arguing that the idea of repatriating God's chosen people is a lie perpetuated by those in power. The speaker criticizes the influence of Jews in media, politics, and religion, suggesting that their control leads to widespread misinformation and manipulation of beliefs.

Speaker 0 asserts that Jews want to exterminate the European race. He names Richard Kudenhova Kalerghi as “the father of the European Union” and claims he was funded by Jewish bankers Rothschild and Warburg. He cites a book said to be written by Kalerghi, Prektisser I De alismus, in 1925, in which the Jews are described as a master race who can only assume world rule by weakening the European race. The means to weakening, according to the claim, would be to dissolve all European nations, destroy their cultural heritage and national traditions, and replace them with the European Union. The speaker alleges that Jews would invite Africans, Middle Easterners, and Asians to dilute the blood of Europeans through miscegenation to the point where they become a degenerate mixed race. He states that at that point these people would no longer have any sense of nationhood, and that the ancient Jewish messianic prophecies of world rule from Jerusalem would be fulfilled with Jews maintaining their nationhood and national status. He connects this to Nikolai’s writings from 1917 and claims it has manifested recently with the invasion of immigrants from Africa, the Middle East, and Asia into Europe, America, and Australia. The speaker concludes that they are deliberately setting about to genocide the white race and destroy all sense of nationhood, national heritage, and national culture in each of our nations.

A speaker identifying themselves as Jewish with critical thinking skills questions where information comes from and asks to see sources. They reference opening the Torah and reading the story of how Jewish people ended up in Israel, then challenge the audience about Abraham’s origins and knowledge of his story. They state that Abraham comes from what is now present-day Iraq, and they question what the story with Abraham, the Jewish people, and God is. They assert that Jewish people are not indigenous to Israel and recount a version of the biblical narrative: God speaks to Abraham and offers a present of “free land” for the Jewish people, telling Abraham to take them to a land filled with milk and honey, and that Abraham leads the people there. They ask what happens when they get to Israel and note that there were already people there. They claim that God told Abraham to slaughter and expel those people from the land, identifying those people as the indigenous inhabitants. The speaker condemns what they describe as others on the app presenting this information as fact, expressing concern that Jewish people themselves may not know their own history or the history of their religion, culture, and land. They juxtapose this with broader historical tragedies, suggesting that if readers have wondered what they would have done during the Holocaust, civil rights movement, slavery, and Canada’s genocide of indigenous people, they should look at what people are doing in the present. They argue that worldwide tragedies and genocide continue because people are afraid to speak out due to social repercussions. Throughout, the speaker emphasizes the following core claims: - Abraham originated from a region corresponding to present-day Iraq, not Israel. - The narrative involves God presenting “free land” to the Jewish people and Abraham leading them to this land. - Upon arrival, the land already had indigenous inhabitants. - The divine instruction attributed to God to Abraham was to slaughter and expel those indigenous people. - Many individuals on the app propagate incorrect historical claims as fact, and some Jewish people may lack awareness of their own historical and religious background. - The speaker connects current fear of speaking out to historical and ongoing acts of mass violence and genocide, urging people to speak out rather than stay silent. The speaker ends by linking contemporary social fear to historical injustices, calling for greater courage to speak out.

Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss the basis for Jewish connection to the land and who has a legitimate claim to it. Speaker 0 begins by stating that there are about 16,000,000 Jews in total worldwide, with 8,000,000 living in the area being discussed, and the remainder living mainly in New York, South Florida, and a few other places. He notes that this is a small population with historical and biblical connections to the land, and asks if such a connection exists. Speaker 1 responds that Bibi’s family lived in Eastern Europe and that there is no evidence they ever lived in the land, and that he isn’t religious. He questions whether there is a true ancestral link. Speaker 0 asks whether there is evidence of any genuine ancestral connection. Speaker 1 asks if there is a family tree for Bibi, and if not, whether anyone has one. Speaker 0 asks how they know, and Speaker 1 elaborates that the point is to establish an ancestral connection to the land. He notes that there has been a practice of Judaism and a connection to the language, suggesting that Bibi has fought for the land, and that his family has fought for it. He raises an obvious, meaningful question: where does this right come from? He explains that many people in the territory Israel controls, particularly in the West Bank, have genetic evidence of having been there for thousands of years, with many identified as Christians for two thousand years, and even if some did not practice Judaism or were Samaritan or pre-Islam, the question remains: how do they compare in terms of rights to someone whose ancestors lived in Latvia or Poland and were Jewish? He questions the basis of being “Jewish” by faith, language, or Torah. Speaker 0 challenges the question, asking how we know if Bibi’s ancestors ever lived there, and expresses confusion about what Speaker 1 is trying to determine. Speaker 1 emphasizes that a claim of rights based on ancestral presence is significant because many claims hinge on whether ancestors lived there, whether money flowed, and whether displacement occurred. He reiterates that it is not a theoretical issue like a grandparent’s distant past, but a real question of who has the right to be there. Speaker 0 remains unable to fully process Speaker 1’s point.