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Zeb Boykin hosts Let's Talk About It and keeps this brief. He, a marine scout sniper who taught ballistics, states "the FBI lies to us" and urges starting with no preconceived notions. The video centers on ballistics. He analyzes four of nine camera angles, then returns to the first. Camera angle one shows a bullet near Charlie Kirk; camera two shows an exit wound in the neck and the earpiece flying off as the shockwave pulls the mic; camera three resembles the view. He explains how the earpiece and cord interact with the shirt, discusses a temporary cavity, and estimates a small-caliber round rather than a rifle. He disputes a body-armor shot, rejects a 'reflection' claim, and argues the shooter cannot be on the roof. He says there is a single shooter and pledges follow-up or live coverage; "The FBI is lying to you."

Charlie Kirk was shot from the front, and the bullet did not exit. And at least a fragment of the bullet was recovered from his neck. Right around here. So think about almost in line with your shoulder blade right in the center. They did not recover a bullet from a 30 odd six. They had found a 30 odd six bullets. Charlie's death certificate certainly would have reflected that. But when the gun and the bullet are known, they are reflected onto the death certificate. There is not one reflected onto Charlie Kirk's death certificate because they did not recover a bullet from a 30 out of six. Hunters and military men rejoice. It turns out that common sense still rules the roost. You're right. You're absolutely right.

Speaker 0 expresses frustration with how podcasts interview figures like Jack Posobiac, Benny Johnson, Andrew Colvord, and Turning Point USA, accusing them of feeding narratives and avoiding obvious questions. He mentions wanting CCTV footage and Turning Point material, and challenges the idea that someone could be shot in the neck with a 30-06 from 150 yards. He references the “magic man of steel” and questions the official narrative around Charlie Kirk’s filming or assassination, calling out perceived manipulation by right-wing media and “controlled opposition.” He urges viewers to follow Intel Skiff, praising him for uncovering information, and asserts that the 30-06 could not have left an exit wound consistent with a neck wound in Charlie Kirk’s case. He insists supporters seek the truth and accuses media figures of fabrication. Speaker 1 then describes a physical test designed to test the claims. He lists the ammunition: an 80-grain ELDX for 22 Creedmoor, a 178-grain ELDX for 30-06, and a 150-grain FMJ for 30-06. The setup includes a pork shoulder about four-and-a-half inches thick taped to a steel plate, with two-liter bottles positioned behind the steel. The test is conducted at 150 yards. They record shots with the 30-06 and then the 22 Creedmoor, intending that if the 22 Creedmoor fails to produce a negative wound, there would be a negative wound from the 30-06. For the 178-grain 30-06 ELDX: the pork shoulder is described as completely ripped through, with the neck represented by the pork shoulder, and the steel plate also being penetrated, followed by an exit wound on the two-liter bottle. They assert the 30-06 blew straight through the neck/shoulder mock, through the steel, and through the Coke bottle behind it, demonstrating a complete through-and-through. They emphasize that the evidence shows the steel plate and two-liter bottle sustained exit wounds, supporting their narrative that a 30-06 at 150 yards would penetrate in this setup. For the 150-grain FMJ 30-06: they report it went through the mock neck and through the steel, with an exit wound observed on the two-liter, again indicating a through-and-through. They then switch to the 22 Creedmoor: the shooter’s wife fires the 22 Creedmoor from the same elevated position. The 22 Creedmoor is described as smaller with less energy than the 30-06, yet it completely penetrates the neck mock and the steel, with an exit on the two-liter bottle. The testers point out that the 22 Creedmoor, in this setup, penetrated both the neck-mock and steel at 150 yards, undermining the claim that a 30-06 would be stopped by a neck at that distance. The overall takeaway, according to Speaker 1, is that both the neck mock and steel behind it were penetrated by the 22 Creedmoor, and that the 30-06 would likewise penetrate in this configuration, challenging the notion that the official narrative about Charlie Kirk’s injury could be accurate. The video underscores the comparison between the two calibers and highlights the steel plate as a decisive barrier in the demonstration.

There was a lone shooter, and we had grainy footage of somebody jumping off a roof; it was established there was one person we were looking for, and that gave us the shooting scene at a spot about 140 yards away with roof indents. "where that shot was allegedly taken from with the weapon allegedly used, is a 30 aught six, the wound is entirely inconsistent with that weapon in that spot. It really just couldn't have happened exactly like they said. This is a very easy through and through round. This is not there's really no bones in the way." "And the way ballistics works is is bullets go in a straight line until and unless something acts on them. ... there was no exit wound." "Right? So what do we do with that information? And the only thing I can think to do with that information is to posit that this round shot at this angle would have gone through and through the neck easy. It probably would have gone through five necks in a row."

"all these Internet experts are sure that it was a professional hit against Charlie Kirk." "Firstly, professionals are trained to aim for the center of scene mass." "Neither the center of scene mass or the head was hit." "The round landed here from what I saw." "The shooter got lucky." "Secondly, 200 yards is not that big a distance to make." "and there was even an exfil roof." "If you really wanna analyze these sorts of situations, team, stop looking at the shot." "Check out the planning, check out the prep, and even the exfil route." "Time will tell, I guess."

Zeb Boykin introduces himself as a Marine scout sniper and says he will keep the video short. He asserts, "the FBI lies to us" and urges evaluating claims without preconceived notions, focusing on ballistics. He identifies nine camera angles and uses four (Cam1–Cam4) to analyze footage frame by frame. He argues a bullet is visible before it hits Charlie Kirk, suggesting the shot came from the right/front and that the earpiece and cord movement shows a mic being pulled by a shockwave, not body armor. He describes an exit wound in the neck and an entry wound that wouldn’t produce the observed damage, estimating calibers around nine millimeter or .38, not 30-06. He discusses muzzle-flash frame, earpiece trajectory, and a Cam4 reflection claim, concluding, "This cannot happen if the shooter is shooting on the roof straight on," and "The FBI is lying to you."

The speaker asserts that Charlie Kirk was shot from the front and that the bullet did not exit his body, with at least a fragment of the bullet recovered from his neck. This is presented as the part of the story that is true and is claimed to dispel various theories. The speaker states they have fact-checked this information from multiple sources over more than a week of review. The fragment is described as being recovered “right around here,” approximately in line with Charlie Kirk’s shoulder blade, near the center of the back, in a location “almost in line with your shoulder blade.” The speaker argues this location provides a bullet trajectory: the bullet entered in the described area, was stopped there, and a fragment was pulled from the neck region along the spine’s line. A key point emphasized is that a .30-06 round was not recovered intact. The speaker asserts that there was no recovered bullet from a .30-06, stating that “They did not recover a bullet from a 30 odd six. They didn’t recover a bullet from a 30 odd six. Just didn't happen.” They contrast this with the presence of .30-06 bullets in some context, implying that while .30-06 rounds were found, no complete bullet was recovered. The speaker notes that death certificates in suicide cases typically reflect the gun and the bullet when both are known, and claims that there is not a bullet reflected on Charlie Kirk’s death certificate because a .30-06 bullet was not recovered. The speaker asserts that the information has been cross-checked with multiple sources and that it undermines other theories, reinforcing that common sense supports their account. The closing remark addresses hunters and military personnel, acknowledging agreement with their perspective: “Hunters and military men rejoice. It turns out that common sense still rules the roost. Okay? You guys were right.”

Charlie Kirk was hit by a high velocity round that created a high pressure shock wave propagating at 1,500 meters per second through his body. This shock wave ripped his gold necklace in half and contributed to killing him. The analysis argues there was no exploding microphone and that some video artifacts can be explained by the rapid sequence of events occurring in milliseconds. The initial shock wave travels at 1,500 m/s and violently yanks the necklace backwards and slightly upward, as Kirk’s neck juts out to the back. The necklace, still under the shirt, is later launched forward a split second later as the shock wave reaches the front. The pendant junction shears the chain due to differential forces acting on the chain and pendant. The right half of the necklace is torn away from the pendant junction and whips around Kirk’s head above his ear due to the backward and slightly upward force. The pendant remains attached to the left half of the necklace and is thrown slightly forward into the shirt and upward over his left shoulder by the frontward expansion of the shock wave, which is not captured in that camera exposure, creating a swooshing projection seen in the next angle. The shock wave undulates down his back, indicating it is not uniform in timing, duration, or magnitude. It propagates around in an undulating manner: out the back, down the back, then forward into the chest and upward. This differential force along the length of the necklace, in contact with the body, leads to the tearing. The left half of the necklace with the pendant attached swooshes upward over the left shoulder; the right side of the chain is whipped around Kirk’s head, as seen in the prior frame. The middle panel shows Kirk’s body ballooned, with the neck expanded, resembling a donut-like inflation around the upper chest, interpreted as cavitation shockwave traveling through the body cavity. This is not uniform: the shock wave went out the back first, then a split second later out the front, imparting force on the pendant to the front and upward, opposing the force on the necklace going backward, contributing to the tearing and the swooping motions. A white smear in the middle panel, pointed to by a green arrow, is not smoke or vapor from a mic explosion. It is a double exposure: the shock wave’s speed causes the shirt to move so quickly that the camera exposure cannot keep up, producing a double exposure and motion blur. The middle panel’s double gold line is two chains forming a V due to the double exposure; in reality, there is one chain, with the right side whipped around the head and the left side still caught in the shirt, the pendant acting like a grappling hook inside the shirt. The video shows a possible exploding lapel mic claim, but the analysis notes that the mic is still attached after the shirt jerks and rebounds, not entering the neck. A small black dot is identified as the lapel mic and remains in place. The white projectile at the end is identified as spit or sweat ejected from the body due to the shock wave, not gang violence. In summary, the account asserts Charlie Kirk was hit by a high velocity round into the neck and body cavity, creating a 1,500 m/s shock wave that tore the necklace and caused the observed motions; there was no exploding mic or palm gun, and artifacts in the video are explained by rapid movement and double exposure. The presenter invites feedback and corrections.

The video investigates whether Charlie Kirk was wearing a vest and how that could change perspective. The narrator, who says he knows nothing about guns but trusts Kyle Sarifen, passes through what Kyle showed him. Viewers are asked to watch the chest reaction before a neck hole appears, with explanations that a white vest under the shirt could hide a bullet hole or black letters on the shirt could be struck. The shooter’s position is argued; a shot from the opposite side is unlikely. The speaker suggests the most likely scenario is that Kirk wore a white vest; a long rifle bullet went through the vest, through the chest, hit the spinal cord, and ricocheted out the throat. Blood splatter could be explained if the vest prevented splatter. CCTV footage is referenced; the speaker remains uncertain about a trans shooter and distrusts FBI statements. Kyle’s gun expertise is highlighted.

Andrew Colvet, TP USA spokesperson, said he talked to the coroner and he's called me with an update: Charlie was shot from the front in the left 30 yard six, and he was a man of steel, they said, and it bounced off the neck bones. I misread the report saying they didn't find a bullet. No. They said they found the bullet, which is insane. They're claiming from the coroner, via a TPOC spokesperson, that the 30 odd six bullet goes in. Didn't find the bullet. I was wrong. But high powered rifle rounds come out over 2,000 feet per second and go right through things; if it hits bone it explodes. I'll call Andrew for an update. Memorial and funeral's tomorrow. Pray for Charlie Kirk and Erica. Get ready for more leftist terror attacks.

Speaker, relying on Kyle Sarifen, analyzes a clip to explore whether Charlie Kirk wore a bulletproof vest. He points to a chest reaction before a neck wound and suggests two possibilities for the missing visible bullet hole: a white vest under the shirt or the round touching the shirt’s black letters. The mic being knocked off is cited as evidence of impact. A shot from the side is argued unlikely given the neck angle. The proposed scenario: the vest was white, the bullet goes through the vest and chest, hits bone or the spinal cord, ricochets, and exits the throat, causing a wound and blood seen through the shirt. The shooter is described as possibly a long rifle shooter; doubt is cast on a trans shooter; CCTV footage is referenced; FBI skepticism mentioned. Kyle is described as someone who does this for a living, and comments are invited.

There is a spot on the shirt. And that spot on the shirt also correlates with the very top edge of this body armor. And you can also see the first appearance of an entrance wound, and that's really weird too. A round that impact the upper edge of his body armor, and then that round deflected directly upward. So now what we're dealing with is not only a deformed projectile, but it's also now moving upward, which would make the wound larger, both because of its deformation and now its angle of entry, and it's also probably fragmented as well. I never saw that exit wound. And I think it's because basically we had that round hit deflect directly upward and up into his cranial cavity. I think Charlie was dead the moment right at impact. I know later on, there was reports that he was in critical condition, that there was a pulse.

Steven (interviewer) and Charlie Kirk’s discussion covers the Charlie Kirk shooting at the Utah Valley University campus, the evidence, theories, and ongoing investigations. The key points are: - Two narratives around the incident: many are angry about the Gaza-Israel war, while others note Charlie Kirk was irritated about defending Israel more than America and about a Jewish donor pulling money; this discrepancy led some to speculate about Israeli involvement, though no definitive link is presented in their discussion. - The microphone/explosion theory and the “exploding mic” explanation are challenged. The mic is deemed too small to cause the observed effects, there is no residue, and the shirt’s cavitation can account for the shirt puffing without an explosion. They discuss the lack of burns or tears and conclude the exploding-mic theory does not fit the evidence they examined. - On the terrain and line of sight: a walkthrough of the scene revealed the Losey Building is two or three stories tall, with Charlie Kirk in a lower amphitheater area; the shooter, Tyler Robinson, fired from above, shooting downward. The terrain and proximity were difficult to gauge from Google Maps, and being physically present changed their understanding of distances and angles. The shooter’s position, sightlines, and the potential visibility of the shooter’s face or gun from the roof were clarified through on-site observation. - Handprint and measurement observations: a handprint believed to be from Tyler Robinson was found on the roof edge, accompanied by a measurement tape suggesting a length around 36 to 40 inches, consistent with the length of a rifle. A yellow tape measure taped to the building and later footage from a telescoping camera supported this assessment. There was discussion about whether the handprint length corresponded to a rifle’s size, and whether a towel on the shooter concealed a weapon. - Video and evidence release: there is an ongoing investigation, and authorities have not released all video or autopsy details. They emphasize the rights of Tyler Robinson to due process; unlike a deceased suspect, Robinson is alive and defense counsel is heavily involved. Investigators have used lasers, measurements, and other techniques at the crime scene, but not all footage is publicly shared during ongoing proceedings. - Autopsy and ballistic questions: debates about wound direction (front versus rear entry), exit wounds, and the possibility that a 30-06 round could be consistent with the neck wound; a front-entry or behind-back trajectory is discussed. Forensic experts describe how X-rays and ballistic analysis will determine the bullet’s path and fragments, while noting that the death certificate does not specify the bullet type, which is a common practice. - Candace Owens and donor-related DM discussions: Candace released DMs in which Charlie Kirk reportedly said, “Jewish donors play into all the stereotypes. I cannot and will not be bullied like this, leaving me no choice but to leave the pro Israel cause.” They discuss whether those messages indicate Israel involvement or donor pressure. Steven argues donors may have wanted Kirk to uphold Judeo-Christian values and that the donor dynamics could explain some tensions, but they do not conclude an Israeli conspiracy. - Discord chats, text messages, and “trans terror cell” theories: they discuss the possibility of Discord chats and messages being forged or taken out of context; some theories mention a transgender cell or coordinated conspiracies. Steven notes Kash Patel announced investigations into conspiracy theories, but as of now no arrests have occurred. The Discord exchanges were described as real in part, but their relevance to planning remains uncertain; there is speculation about premeditation versus reactive admissions. - Other theories and debunkings: theories such as trapdoors, tunnels, or irrigation pipes were addressed and dismissed. Claims about an Egyptian military plane, drones, or a private jet turning off transponders were also discussed and generally debunked or dismissed based on timing, geolocation, and official statements. - Weapon specifics and trajectory: Matt Tardio and Chris Martenson are referenced regarding the ballistics and wound mechanics; Steven suggests the 30-06 wound is plausible if the cartridge quality and angle were favorable, but emphasizes that more autopsy details and bullet analysis are required. He expects more evidence to emerge during the trial, including ballistics, gun residue on the shooter’s clothes and car, and the shooter’s geolocation data. - Trust in institutions: the conversation closes with a note that, regardless of the findings, trust in institutions like the FBI heavily influences how people accept or reject the evidence and conclusions. They acknowledge that even with extensive surveillance footage and forensic analysis, public trust will shape the reception of any official findings. Steven commends the coverage for being thorough and methodical across multiple theories. In summary, the discussion blends现场 observations with ongoing investigative questions: the on-site terrain clarified shooting angles, the handprint and measurement evidence suggested rifle length, and the autopsy/ballistics details remain pending; many alternative theories (explosive mic, trapdoors, drone activity, coordinated conspiracies, or donor-driven motives) are discussed and evaluated against observed evidence, with a general emphasis on awaiting official forensic results and trial proceedings.

The speaker notes that a "spot on the shirt" correlates with the "very top edge of this body armor," and identifies the "first appearance of an entrance wound," which is described as "really weird too." He states that, "When we see an entrance wound from a firearm, especially on the skin and something in an area that's soft tissue like the neck, we normally don't see such a large hole there with the entrance wound." He calls the wound "a fairly massive wound," and explains that "we had a round that impact the upper edge of his body armor, and then that round deflected directly upward," making the wound larger and likely fragmented. He notes there is no exit wound observed, since "that round hit deflect directly upward and up into his cranial cavity," and concludes, "I’m fairly certain that that projectile is still inside of his body" and "Charlie was dead the moment right at impact." He adds that there were reports "he was in critical condition, that there was a pulse."

Speaker questions whether Charlie Kirk wore a bulletproof vest and says this could change perspectives. He admits little about guns but trusts Kyle Sarifen who walked him through it. The video shows a chest reaction and suggests something hit the shirt before the neck. Two explanations for no visible bullet hole: a white vest underneath or the round struck letters on the shirt. The mic being flung off implies an impact. They argue a shot from that side is unlikely due to head angle. They propose: a white vest under the shirt, a round passing through the vest, hitting chest, spinal cord, ricocheting to exit the throat, with blood coming through the shirt. They think a long rifle from an angle is likely; not convinced about a trans shooter; CCTV footage could settle it. They refrain from stating who shot, and note FBI questions; Kyle is described as an expert.

Video discusses whether Charlie Kirk was wearing a vest and suggests this could change perspectives. The narrator trusts Kyle Sarifen on guns and vests. They point to the reaction video, noting a chest reaction before a neck hole appears and say two things could explain the lack of a visible bullet hole: a white vest under the shirt, or black letters on the shirt that could obscure a hole. A mic was flung off by the impact. They argue the shot angle makes a side shooter unlikely, and propose the vest went through the chest, hit the spinal cord, ricocheted, and exited at the throat, explaining a throat exit wound and arterial blood gush. They cite a long rifle from an angle and remain not convinced of a trans shooter; CCTV footage release could settle. They mention FBI lies and Kyle’s gun expertise: he does this stuff for a living.

Zeb Boykin analyzes a shooting using four of nine camera angles, noting “there’s nine camera angles” and “we’re only gonna use four of them” before revisiting camera1. He states “the FBI lies to us” and limits discussion to ballistics. He claims a frame before impact shows the “bullet” at Charlie Kirk, and in camera2 “an exit wound in the neck” with “the earpiece” dislodged and “the cord pulling the shirt” as the mic is drawn by the shockwave. He says “the earpiece is not body armor” and dismisses a “reflection” in camera4. He mentions a possible muzzle flash (grainy) and discusses a temporary cavity, yaw, and bullet tumbling. He estimates a smaller caliber, possibly nine millimeter, and suggests a base-of-skull hit causing instantaneous incapacitation, not a rifle. He concludes, “The FBI is lying to you,” and, “This cannot happen if the shooter is shooting on the roof straight on.”

"Charlie was brought dead to the hospital." "Charlie was being shot from on top." "No, it didn't go through." "It went down his spine, exploded in his heart. Fragments went in there, which makes sense." "That's what happens." "So this is ballistics." "I'm a ballistics expert." "Now understand. He's being shot from above." "But, absolutely, there's no way you get shot with 30 on six. It doesn't go through." "He shot from up high. He goes down and explodes." "His memorial's tomorrow in Arizona. We'll be covering it live." "I read a press report that got it wrong." "Let ballistic experts know we'll break it all down, but that's the facts as we know them right now." "God bless you all. God bless Charlie Kirk."

Gary Melton (Gary) and Mitch have a lengthy, meandering exchange that centers on veterans’ histories, alleged government manipulation, personal trauma, and the pursuit of truth around high-profile political cases. The core thread is an effort to verify Mitch’s claims about his SF background and to explore broader claims about political interference, media narratives, and potential conspiracies. Key points and exchanges: - Identity, background, and verification: - Gary identifies himself as a former SF soldier seeking to verify Mitch’s SF history after seeing his Candace Owens interview. - Mitch provides his SF timeline: he was in group from February/March 1993 until November 1996; MOS 18 Charlie (medic). He mentions attending the 300F1 course and a severe on-duty accident at Guadalupe River, involving a 60-foot fall that caused multiple injuries (spine, feet, knee, lumbar, dislocations, torn labrum, etc.). - Mitch describes his treatment (brace, three-week leave, then recycled into the next class and internship at Brookhaven Army Medical Center Burn Ward). He mentions ODA +1 63166/ +1 63/ +1 66 and places himself on +183 and +185 in the old numbering system; later, he notes the transition to the newer numeric system circa 2002-2006. - Gary asks for Mitch’s DD214 to verify the story; Mitch agrees and offers to share it. He references being in “Lake Baja” and knowing Nate (Nate Chapman), whom he spoke with the day before. - Personal stakes, trauma, and family: - Mitch explains a long, difficult divorce and custody battle that spanned many years. He says he was a stay-at-home dad for his son, who is now 13, and describes persistent, aggressive accusations against him (PTSD, abuse, murder) by courts and media figures. - He recounts a prior incident involving a coworker or classmate, Jimmy Walker, and notes that Walker later claimed PTSD and discrimination in SF contexts. Mitch frames this as part of broader patterns of how SF status can be weaponized in custody and legal battles. - Mitch and Gary discuss how the SF environment can foster suspicion, paranoia, and intra-community politics (e.g., clashes with SF Brothers, admin actions, and the difficulty of maintaining contact with peers after leaving the teams). - Candace Owens, TPUSA, and broader conspiratorial discussions: - The callers discuss Candace Owens’ involvement, the TPUSA circle, and the believability of various claims. Mitch says he has wanted to vet the claims through Candace and Joe Kent, and he’s offered to supply documents to verify stories. He notes that Candace has reportedly pulled threads about various shooters and narratives and that this has caused friction with TPUSA. - Mitch argues that Candace might be exploited by political or foreign adversaries and that her narratives sometimes lack corroborating evidence, distracting from “the truth.” He insists on corroborating Mitch’s own story with documents (DD214, other records) before airing anything publicly. - Gary responds with skepticism about online personas but agrees to vet Mitch’s materials, emphasizing integrity and a desire to verify truth. Both acknowledge the risk of backend manipulation, bot attacks, and the use of media figures to push narratives. - Ballistics and the Charlie Kirk incident: - A substantial portion of the discussion turns to ballistics surrounding Tyler Robinson and the Charlie Kirk incident. Mitch (the ballistics expert) explains that many variables affect ballistic outcomes (ammo type, grain, bullet construction, handloads vs. factory ammo, barrel condition, yaw, stabilization). He argues that the 30-06 round’s behavior can be highly variable and that an “atypical” (non-normative) wound could occur for many reasons. - He compares Martin Luther King’s assassination (65-yard shot, 30-06, open casket) to Charlie Kirk’s wound, noting similarities in the trajectory and lack of an exit wound in some high-profile cases. He cites Chuck Ritter (Green Beret) who was shot multiple times with 7.62x54R and survived, and uses these examples to illustrate the complexity of interpreting ballistic evidence. - Mitch asserts that multiple plausible explanations exist for Kirk’s wounds and stresses that the exact ammunition type, projectile, and ballistic conditions are unknown at present. He emphasizes that investigators possess DNA and surveillance records (DNA on the firearm, trigger, cartridge, towel used by Tyler Robinson) and text messages; he notes that Mitch is not claiming to know the entire truth but wants to see corroborating evidence. - The two discuss the possibility of government involvement or manipulation, while acknowledging that ballistics alone cannot prove a broader conspiracy. They note the challenges of obtaining complete ballistic data before trials, and they express openness to future verification once more information becomes available (e.g., during trial proceedings). - Custody, investigations, and accountability: - Mitch recounts the broader pattern of SF members being targeted by legal systems when in contentious custody situations, with accusations and judgments influenced by SF status. He cites examples of coercion, character assassination, and the weaponization of families in court battles. - They discuss how the FBI and other agencies have handled high-profile cases, noting distrust in narratives presented by authorities and media. They acknowledge that public transparency is essential, even as prosecutions proceed. - Platform, vetting, and next steps: - The two plan to continue the vetting process: Mitch will provide DD214 and related documents to Gary, who promises to verify and not disclose sensitive information without Mitch’s consent. They discuss sending further documents via email or text (Gary’s Paramount Tactical contact). - Mitch expresses a desire to appear on Gary’s show and to connect with Nate (Nate Chapman) for collaborative vetting. Gary commits to facilitating, offering to act as an advocate if Mitch’s story is verified and to help set up communications with Nate and Candace as appropriate. - The conversation closes with both agreeing on the importance of truth, corroboration, and accountability. They acknowledge the risk and the emotional toll of revealing sensitive histories but emphasize their commitment to pursuing the truth and preventing misinformation or manipulation. Overall, the transcript captures a tense, exploratory exchange between two veterans and affiliates about verifying SF credentials, the personal toll of custody and legal battles, the influence of political narratives, and the complexities of ballistics and forensics in high-profile incidents. The participants stress verification through documents, corroboration of anecdotes, and cautious, integrity-driven engagement with media figures and audiences.

Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss contemporary conspiracy theories surrounding Charlie Kirk. They state they do not believe the theory that Jews killed Charlie Kirk and, as it stands right now, think it was Tyler Robinson. They both agree on this point regarding the alleged killer. Speaker 1 shifts to addressing Nick Fuentes, noting they weren’t going to come for him until he called Ian Carroll “retarded.” Ian Carroll allegedly appeared in a livestream pleading with Speaker 0 to join in on the conspiracy. Speaker 1 repeats the insult, saying, “If you think that I feel sorry for you because you are retarded.” They challenge the credibility of claims about a “furry trans lover” storyline, asserting that discord’s own statements say the furry trans motive screenshots didn’t come from their servers. The discussion moves to alleged forensic and investigative inconsistencies. They reference a father identifying his son from a grainy rooftop silhouette before police have real evidence, and claim that the FBI has four-k footage showing the shot but left that part out. They question the ballistic details: a .30-06 round, known for blowing through concrete blocks and obliterating bone, allegedly gets stopped by Charlie’s “Superman like neck.” They note the absence of visible ballistic mess or blood spatter and question how bulletproof the spine would be. They claim the rifle was “disassembled within seconds after taking the shot” yet was found “fully assembled in the woods.” They state that the shooter stuffs the rifle in his pants to jump off, which clashes with the rifle being recovered fully assembled. They express skepticism about the overall narrative, suggesting that Nick Fuentes may be paid off or had his career threatened over this issue, and conclude that whatever the truth is, it is “not a good look” for Nick Fuentes. In summary, the speakers reject the claim that Jews killed Charlie Kirk and attribute it to Tyler Robinson; they criticize Nick Fuentes for engaging with conspiratorial narratives, challenge the veracity of related forensic and anecdotal claims, highlight inconsistencies in timelines and weapon handling, and suggest possible financial or career motive implications, framing the situation as damaging for Nick Fuentes.

"What you're watching here, you're gonna watch the reaction." "Something is hitting that shirt before it goes through his neck." "There could easily be a white vest under it." "Or what I just realized here is you guys have black letters on there." "That round could have very possibly touched one of those black letters." "The shirt looks like after the fact, but he did even have this mic on here." "There is no way to get that angle of that shot." "the vest goes through this, hits something inside, ricochets back out, comes out the top." "it most likely was a long rifle." "I'm still not convinced of the trans shooter." "There have been lies that the FBI has told us." "Kyle's Kyle does this stuff for a living." "Drop some comments below."

The speaker argues it's not clear the shooter fled the scene with a weapon, possibly downplaying it as a concealed firearm. He suggests the shooter could have had a short-barreled AR-15 broken down to fit a bag, raising questions about how the gun ended up and was later found in the woods. If the shooter didn’t leave with a weapon, one possibility is the weapon was left at the scene; another is that the person wasn’t the shooter. The speaker acknowledges conspiracy theories and distinguishes personal uncertainty from certainty, referencing the FBI’s account of sneaking a 30-06 rifle in his pants, taking the shot, not leaving with it, and then retrieving it hours later. He wonders why someone would run into the woods and asks where the actual gun is, and whether a different rifle in the woods was misattributed.

"there is a spot on the shirt." "And that spot on the shirt also correlates with the very top edge of this body armor." "Here we see a fairly massive wound." "What is very clear to me is that we had a round that impact the upper edge of his body armor, and then that round deflected directly upward." "the wound larger, both because of its deformation and now its angle of entry, and it's also probably fragmented as well." "I never saw that exit wound." "I think it's because basically we had that round hit deflect directly upward and up into his cranial cavity." "The projectile is still inside of his body." "Charlie was dead the moment right at impact." "There was reports that he was in critical condition, that there was a pulse."

Speaker discusses whether Charlie Kirk was wearing a bulletproof vest and how this could change perspectives. He says he knows nothing about guns but trusts Kyle Sarifen, who walked him through details. In the video, the speaker asks viewers to watch the chest reaction and explains what Kyle showed him. He notes the shirt shows a reaction before any neck hole appears and suggests two explanations for the missing bullet hole: a white vest under the shirt concealing a hole, or a bullet touching the black letters on the shirt. The mic was knocked off by the impact. He argues the shot likely came from the side and was a long rifle; the vest could be breached, with the bullet exiting via the throat after passing through chest structures. Blood splatter could be explained by arteries. He remains not convinced of a trans shooter.

there is a spot on the shirt. And that spot on the shirt also correlates with the very top edge of this body armor. the first appearance of an entrance wound. A lot of times with these smaller caliber wounds, even up to 30 cal, it's hard to see a entrance wound at all. I never saw that exit wound. I think it's because basically we had that round hit deflect directly upward and up into his cranial cavity. I'm fairly certain that that projectile is still inside of his body. I think Charlie was dead the moment right at impact. what is very clear to me is that we had a round that impact the upper edge of his body armor, and then that round deflected directly upward.