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There were very fine people on both sides of a white supremacist rally. I’m not referring to the neo-Nazis and white nationalists, who should be condemned entirely. However, there were many individuals in that group who were not neo-Nazis or white nationalists.

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Ms. Green from Georgia states: "the man the 22 year old man, Tyler Robinson, that that murdered Charlie Kirk is not MAGA. His family may be Republican but all of the evidence that is being presented proves that he is a far leftist, very much integrated in online groups that are linked to Antifa. He was in a relationship with a biological male, so called furry, whatever that is, that is transitioning to be a fake woman. That is he was not MAGA, not one bit." She calls it "a complete lie, and it's an insult to every single Republican and person that identifies with those type of politics." She says, "We will not tolerate it," and claims that this language is getting many of us death threats day after day, and led to shootings on the baseball field where Steve Scalise was shot. "This is what led to President Trump nearly being assassinated this past summer. This is what has led to Charlie Kirk being assassinated." And so I just I just wanna give a warning there. "We're not going to tolerate that anymore. Mister chairman You know something else we're not going to tolerate is crime."

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The discussion centers on motive in a shooting. "we don't have a motive yet. We don't know yet." "That's CNN's position. Mean, he just happened to fire the gun in celebration." They note "law enforcement hasn't laid out a direct motive" though "they laid out a lot of evidence here of these messages." The panel debates whether the shooter was "a left wing activist who hated Charlie Kirk." "I believe anyone engaged in acts of violence should be prosecuted" and "we should follow the money. Anyone funding acts of violence, we should." They claim "the left ... overwhelmingly celebrates this," citing "Blue Sky ... leftist celebrating the murder of Charlie Kirk" and "over 50% of Democrats saying violence against Elon Musk is justified." They discuss violence on both sides and conclude, "There are deranged lunatics who attack people both right and left." Sen. Cruz, thanks for your time tonight.

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"These kids, did extraordinary things, but they never should have been put in that position in the first place." "This was a madman." "He was an all purpose hater, by the way." "Hated groups left, right, you name it." "There's no way to pin an ideology on this, and I think people should remember this as the facts come out, about this manifesto." "But what I learned from this once again is that guns and we're a proud hunting state." "There's a lot of law abiding gun owners in Minnesota, but there's gotta be more we can"

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"And, we all lost, no matter what side of the political aisle you're on, we lost something important in America today. But, the case goes on. The investigation goes on. There's a lot of piecing of evidence together. We don't have a shooter tonight. We have a couple leads, couple people that were released that probably aren't the shooter. They have a couple hot leads. There's a little bit of foreign intelligence. And I think over the next couple of days, we will learn a lot more, and hopefully, we will bring to justice the evil person who did what, they did to Charlie today. Yeah. I am hearing that they do have a couple of people of interest. That's the latest I heard from law That's correct. Law enforcement. You're hearing the same thing."

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Speaker 1: Of course, as you all know, in the wake of Charlie's murder, there was an incredible amount of angry discourse from the right. Blaming the Democrats, blaming liberals saying, you're the reason this happened. Only to find out, surprise, 22 year old white dude, loved guns, raised by two parents, lived in a good home, dad as a minister, also a sheriff, didn't check it in boxes. Y'all thought he would check, did he? Speaker 0: Okay. First of all, a coat of mascara would be your friend. Speaker 0: That is disgusting. That was absolutely disgusting. Fuck her. Speaker 0: It's it's weird how she lost the points about him being a furry loving trans dating.

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Why are we cheering for someone getting shot? He's dead. Like, no matter what political beliefs are, should not be cheering that someone got shot. He has a family. We do. We I value everyone's beliefs, but we should not be cheering as a class that someone got shot. He has a family. Yes. And who shot them? A transgender person. Oh. Oh. Oh. So that's what it is. Yes. Five males. It doesn't matter. You should not be cheering that someone got shot. Yes. You should not be cheering that someone got shot. Yeah. He's still, like, attacking you guys don't care what other people got.

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"Talk to me about the environment in which a shooting like this happens." "we don't know any of full details of this. We don't know if this was the supporter shooting their gun off in celebration or so. We have no idea about this." "He's been one of the most divisive, especially divisive, figures in this who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech or sort of aimed at certain groups." "I always go back to hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, which then lead to hateful actions." "And I think that's the environment we're in, that people just you can't stop with these sort of awful thoughts you have and then saying these awful words and not expect awful actions to take place." "And that's the unfortunate environment we're in."

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Speaker 0 says, "If you're celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk, you're a bad person. You're going to hell." Speaker 1 adds, "May. Fuck Charlie Kirk," and declares, "The off ramp to the high road is closed," insisting they won't feel guilty about a "bullshit hero" who spread harm. They stress, "This has nothing to do with conservative versus liberal" or with Democrats versus Republicans, and point out the alleged suspect is "an old white guy." They predict media will misframe the event as "an isolated incident by a lone shooter" and that "it's gonna end up being a white guy." They acknowledge sadness with "Abso fucking lutely," but conclude, "However, fuck that guy. God’s timing is always right." "Good day, goofies."

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One month ago today, I witnessed my friend of ten years, someone who I considered a brother, a loving husband, a devoted father, a generational leader, get assassinated on a livestream by a left wing radical. Approximately one year ago, I witnessed the president of The United States get shot in the head by a left wing radical who also took the life of a transporter in front of his daughters and wife. Two months ago, Christian children kneeling and praying in a church Were slaughtered. By a left wing extremist. If it's happening every single week, is it that extreme, or has the Democrat party mainstreamed violence as a political tool? Violence has been mainstreamed by the Democrat Party. It is not extremist. Is any Democrat courageous enough to disavow violence? The Trump administration making America safe again. God bless them.

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"I don't know who did this. And I sure hope that it was not from the left that would be better." "But it doesn't matter because the first Trump assassination also was not from the left." "It was just a guy who was going to also had Biden on his target list." "And it's been made in the ideology of this far right that you're seeing online." "It's part of a line, Brett Kavanaugh, Trump assassination, how Charlie Kirk," "It doesn't matter that it wasn't from the left because that part has been erased in the common litany of grievances." "Absolutely." "I mean, it's just it's just about the, momentum of violence. Right?" "If one side keeps punching, that's bad, that's really bad." "But it's much worse when one side punches, the other punches back." "That causes an escalation."

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My sympathy to Charlie Kirk's family and to Charlie Kirk who obviously is, you know, become a target for somebody. I don't know whether it's political violence because I don't know who did it. I know they seem to have somebody in custody. But I will say that political violence unfortunately has been ratcheting up in this country. We saw the shootings, the killings in Minnesota. We've seen other political violence occur in other states, and I I would just say it's gotta stop. And I think there are people who are fomenting it in this country. I think the president's rhetoric often foments it. We've seen the January 6 rioters who clearly, you know, have tripped a new era of political violence.

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There were very fine people on both sides of a white supremacist rally. I'm not referring to the neo-Nazis and white nationalists, who should be condemned entirely. However, there were many individuals in that group who were not neo-Nazis or white nationalists.

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Speaker 0 says the MAGA crowd was trying to characterize the assassin as anything but one of them because the guys the 22 year old kid in Java's family was MAGA. As if a 22 year old with a trans girlfriend never rebelled against their family. He adds, I mean but was he on the left? I don't know that either. The remarks reflect a dispute over how political identity is attributed to the shooter and reveal uncertainty about the attacker's exact political alignment, highlighting skepticism about simplifying motives to a single label. The exchange centers on how media and audiences might interpret the killer's beliefs through family affiliations and slogans rather than direct evidence.

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I wanna address this idea that both sides just need to lower the temperature. If you've been watching the news or scrolling on social media, you've probably heard this. Both sides just need to lower the temperature. It's bullshit, and I wanna point out exactly why it's bullshit. First, let's take a look at what these Democrat politicians are saying now that their side has committed many acts of domestic terrorism. They say: “Everybody, right, left, center, I don't care what your politics are, has to speak out strongly against it. But look, I think, and I don't know what's happened here, and I don't know about the guns, but we need better laws on guns.” Then: “I I I just don't even know why there aren't uprisings all over the country, and maybe there will be.” And: “There needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there's unrest in our lives. Enemies of the state.” They add: “Show me where it says that protests are supposed to be polite and peaceful.” They state: “There is no both sides in this. Okay? That is what the left has done over about the last week.” They list alleged incidents: “A leftist murdered Charlie Kirk. A leftist shot an ABC affiliate for not airing Jimmy Kimmel. Imagine shooting up a TV studio because Jimmy Kimmel was not being aired. Somebody on the left shot a wedding while yelling free Palestine. Leftists had mass celebrations and celebrated Charlie Kirk's murder in the streets of New York. And today, a leftist shot an ICE facility.” They conclude: “There is no both sides.” “The right is not the one doing this. The far left, the leftist organizers, activists, the people at the root of the Democratic Party are the ones behind this. They have an insane ideology, and they are making people pay for it in blood.”

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Speaker claims, "Brother Charlie got murdered, assassinated a few days ago, but the truth is he was assassinated a few years ago." They argue that electing people who demonize their political opponents leads to violence, adding, "So you might have pulled the trigger yourself." The speaker asks, "Who demonize political opponents? Who call political opponents enemies, Hitler, a threat to democracy, who say because we disagree, if you see someone, walk up to them and if they're eating in a restaurant, tell them they're not welcome, get in their face." They warn, "When you start saying stuff like that, calling your political opponents Nazis, fascists, stuff like that. Well, sooner or later, a kook is gonna hear that. A crazy person is going to hear that, and they're going to act on it."

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Speaker 1: "Just because the other side... jokes about the bad things that happened to them, I don't think that makes it okay for us to turn around and do the same." Speaker 0: "No. We need to stop... the left just haven't cucked out enough." Speaker 0: "Trump is fucking insane because he has support from 90% of the conservatives in the Republican party who are entirely un American." Speaker 1: "One person is dead... a swing state voter." Speaker 1: "We don't know what the motivation of the shooter was." Speaker 1: "Just because there is fire burning doesn't give us leave to throw more wood on it." Speaker 0: "Donald Trump wanted absolute criminal immunity." Speaker 0: "Democracy only works when everybody participates." Speaker 1: "I reject this framing entirely."

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This was an act of targeted political violence. Peaceful discourse is the foundation of our democracy, not violence or settling differences at gunpoint. Minnesota proved compromise is possible even in politically charged times. We must stand against all forms of political violence. This tragic act in Minnesota should serve as a reminder that democracy and debate in halls of congress, state houses, and school boards is the way to settle our differences peacefully and move society to a better place.

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Speaker declares a political shift: "I was an old school democrat. I will never vote a fucking democrat ever." "I was a purple party independent. You lost me. I'm all red now." He condemns those who "celebrate and rejoice in the murder and assassination of someone who just was giving a different point of view than what you're used to in the fucking colleges these days" and says "You are and will always be part of the problem if you're rejoicing in that." He notes "He was a family man. He just came and was respectful to everybody and was assassinated for it." The speaker concludes, "It's fucking pathetic, and so as what the Democratic Party has become."

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"Do you accept, Carrie, that this is a it's not just a one-sided problem? The political violence and violent rhetoric is a problem on both sides of the divide, and it's incumbent on everybody in a position of authority and influence to take the lead here in trying to to just tone things down." "There's been a few cases where it goes from from the right to the left, but there's been an exorbitant number where it's coming from the left to the right. And you can't deny that. If you add it all up, it's just more violence. I mean, president Trump was nearly assassinated. There's another attempt on his life." "The media has to take credit for what they have caused, the chaos they've caused in our country, and they haven't done it. And until they do, they need to be turned off, canceled, muted. They're absolutely abhorrent."

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He will create a false equivalency between Charlie Kirk and the murder of the Hortmans in Minnesota. That's provably untrue. Melissa Hortman, the Democratic state legislator in Minnesota last three months ago, gunned down by an anti abortion Trump supporter. Yes or no? Wrong. How do I know? Because Vance Bolter, the man who did it, wrote in his letter that it had nothing to do with Trump or being pro life. He blamed Tim Walls. Did you see anyone celebrating the death of them gleefully? Did you see so many professors doing so, showing children a snuff? spitting at their vigil. Joe Walsh will say that this is an overreaction. From the moment Charlie Kirk was assassinated, I said, we don't know who did it. All of this is by design so that the left and spineless right can make this conversation about conservatives responding to the cold blooded terroristic assassination... And maybe if I would have picked up the phone, maybe Charlie would have had a fighting chance.

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Consider the shooter, who came from an affluent background and displayed signs of hatred in his manifesto. Our children are being radicalized to hate the very country that has provided for them. Despite having everything, he resorted to violence. We must address the radicalization of young people, as I see a growing animosity among them. Celebrating someone's death, like having dance parties in response to violence, is not something I support. It's crucial to acknowledge and focus on these issues.

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The panel debates motive, with "we don't have a motive yet. We don't know yet" and "Law enforcement hasn't laid out a direct motive. They've laid out a lot of evidence here of these messages." They cite "they said that he was a left wing activist who hated Charlie Kirk." "Look. I believe anyone engaged in acts of violence should be prosecuted and go to jail." They claim "There has been an enormous amount, and CNN has been guilty of this, of both sides ism." They argue "It is the left that overwhelmingly celebrates this" and "look at Blue Sky and it is a cesspool of leftist celebrating the murder of of Charlie Kirk." The discussion touches polling: "the polls the vast majority of Democrats believe a Republican and a Trump supporter." "Senator Ted Cruz, thanks for your time tonight."

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Charlie Kirk’s Murder Has Officially Backfired
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Charlie Kirk’s murder becomes a catalyst for a raw, emotionally honest episode as Dave Rubin, Sage Steele, and Russell Brand wrestle with faith, public tragedy, and the fraying wires of political discourse. They reflect on the moment the murder dominated live television and the sense that it may be a tipping point for national conversation. Rubin recalls thousands of messages describing a revived interest in faith and in reading the Bible aloud, while Sage emphasizes honoring Charlie’s memory with honesty and compassion. They discuss Rubin’s Fox & Friends segment, filmed in New York, and the sense that this event could leave a lasting imprint on culture and politics. Russell notes that this is not merely a political tragedy but a test of how a public figure who talked to the other side can influence discourse. They warn against turning the death into political leverage and debate how media coverage can tilt toward sensationalism. The panelists describe Montel Williams and CNN figures pushing a narrative that the killer’s motives were emotional rather than political, while others insist the act stemmed from left-wing radicalism and hate. They condemn celebrations of violence and stress that free speech must be accompanied by responsibility, including rejecting calls to dox or demonize opponents. Faith becomes a central thread as they discuss the spike in interest in religion after the tragedy. They share personal moves toward spirituality, such as Sage’s note about guiding her children toward diverse information sources, and Dave’s commitment to keep Shabbat in memory of Charlie. They reflect on how the event has forced a broader examination of the role of religion in public life and in parenting, and how the trio must navigate fear without surrendering to cynicism. They emphasize not remaining silent, choosing to engage with empathy, and continuing to advocate for civil dialogue across divides. They pivot to media ecosystems and geopolitics, with Russell invoking McLuhan’s idea that the medium is the message. They discuss the growth of decentralized movements in Britain, including Elon Musk’s appearance at a Tommy Robinson march, and the larger question of information control. They acknowledge how platforms like TikTok shape younger audiences and the importance of speaking up rather than retreating. The episode closes with a commitment to reassess how they speak, to honor Charlie’s legacy, and to keep the conversation going despite fear and exhaustion.
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