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Have you ever heard of someone innocent receiving a preemptive pardon? It's unusual. This situation seems to involve not just prospective pardons for uncharged individuals, but also the president's family and associates who have supported him. The president appears to be using these pardons to shield those who have protected him, creating an environment filled with questionable characters.

The speaker asks if it is common for the Department of Justice (DOJ) to re-prosecute someone after they have been granted clemency or a commutation by the president. They mention that they could not find any instances of the DOJ re-prosecuting a commutation. Another speaker agrees and adds that they are not aware of any cases where re-prosecution occurs after a clemency grant.

Have you ever heard of someone receiving a preemptive pardon despite being completely innocent? It seems unlikely. This situation appears to be an attempt to pardon individuals for potential future crimes they may never be charged with, particularly those close to the president, including family members. The president has surrounded himself with people who have supported him, creating an environment that resembles a den of thieves. This preemptive pardon seems to be a way for the president to protect those who have been loyal to him.

Speaker 0 questions the president's actions: "You're gonna honor first responders today, but you pardon hundreds of people who assaulted first responders. Why did you do that?" He also says, "Yeah. But you pardoned people who assaulted first responders." Speaker 1 replies: "No. I pardoned people that were assaulted themselves. They were assaulted by our government. I fired I pardoned j six people who were assaulted by our government. That's who assaulted, and they were treated unfairly." He continues: "There's never been a group of people in this country outside of maybe one instance that I can think of, but I won't get into it, that were treated more horribly than the people of J Six. So, no. I didn't assault. They didn't assault. They were assaulted." "And what I did was a great thing for humanity. They were treated very, very unfairly. There's never been an incident like it."

Speaker 0 is asked if President Biden accepted bribes and if he would comment on the arrest of the former president.

Have you ever heard of someone innocent receiving a preemptive pardon? It seems unlikely, especially when it involves the president's family and associates. Seeking such pardons raises questions about guilt; if someone is innocent, why would they need one? Preemptive pardons suggest that crimes may have occurred, even if they are not publicly known. If the president were to issue these pardons, it might be framed as protecting his family from external threats. However, the underlying concern appears to be about his own and his family's legal troubles. The idea of a permanent pardon for individuals like Rudy Giuliani and the president's children is troubling, especially if they haven't been convicted of any crimes. Many would interpret these pardons as an admission of guilt.

Axios reports that Trump's pardons related to January 6 were a last-minute decision. One adviser claimed Trump said, "f it, release them all." Concerns were raised about pardoning violent offenders who attacked the Capitol, with calls for a clear response on whether these actions were justified. The congressman acknowledged the lawbreaking but highlighted that many were charged under federal law without due process. He argued that not all offenders were released and questioned the focus on those pardoned. The discussion shifted to broader issues of law enforcement and accountability, with the congressman suggesting that political motivations influenced the treatment of offenders. Ultimately, he deflected responsibility for potential future crimes committed by released individuals, comparing it to other political figures' actions. The conversation ended without a definitive stance on the pardons.

The president appears focused on self-interest and grievances as his term nears its end. He is reportedly inquiring about the possibility of issuing preemptive pardons for himself, his family, and Rudy Giuliani. The clear answer is no; this would constitute a serious misuse of presidential pardon power.

Have you ruled out a pardon for yourself or family members? Yes, I have. What would I pardon myself for? I have no intention of pardoning myself because I didn't do anything wrong. Could you comment on Meta's decision to...

Have you ever heard of someone innocent receiving a preemptive pardon? It seems unlikely, especially when it involves the president's family and associates. Seeking pardons suggests concern over potential wrongdoing. If someone is innocent, why would they need a pardon? Preemptive pardons imply that crimes may have occurred, even if not publicly known. If the president grants these pardons, it could be seen as protecting his family from external threats, but it raises questions about guilt. The idea of a permanent pardon for individuals like Giuliani or the president's children is troubling, especially if they haven't been convicted of any crime. If the president pardons anyone, many would interpret it as an admission of guilt. Recently, it was reported that President Biden will pardon his son, Hunter Biden.

The president has previously discussed his power to pardon and has talked to his lawyers about it. He has pardoned Joe Arpaio, a former sheriff from Arizona, who was guilty of federal criminal charges. However, pardoning someone related to the Russian investigation carries more significance.

Have you ever heard of someone innocent receiving a preemptive pardon? It's unusual, especially when it's the president's family involved. Seeking preemptive pardons raises questions about guilt; if there's no wrongdoing, why ask for one? Such actions suggest that crimes may have occurred, even if not publicly known. If pardons are issued, they might be framed as protecting family reputations from external threats. The notion of a permanent pardon raises eyebrows, especially for individuals like Giuliani and the president's children, who haven't been convicted of crimes. If the president pardons them, many would interpret it as an admission of guilt. Meanwhile, there are still legal avenues to pursue accountability for any wrongdoing.

Speaker 1 believes there's an open legal challenge regarding the use of an AutoPen for pardons. The typical AutoPen approval process requires signatures from at least five people, including attorneys, policy makers, and the president. Speaker 1 claims President Trump stated that there are no records of these required signatures, and it's unknown who used the AutoPen. Speaker 1 agrees with President Trump that this is a problem. Speaker 1 suggests testing the legality of the pardons by indicting someone who received one.

Rudy Giuliani has suggested the possibility of pardoning himself, claiming he has that authority, though it hasn't been tested in court. This raises concerns about the precedent it sets and how it affects perceptions of justice in the nation. The justice department will operate independently, and I won't dictate their actions or prosecutions. The people I appoint to lead the department will have the autonomy to make decisions on prosecutions. In our administration, we will not adopt a similar approach to pardons.

This past week, a record 1,500 commutations were granted, the highest number in a single day. Among those commuted were individuals involved in serious crimes, including a judge linked to a cash-for-kids scheme that imprisoned many, a man guilty of tax fraud costing over $1.6 billion, and a woman involved in a $26 million Medicare fraud scheme. Are you comfortable with these decisions? No, I’m not. There was also a man in Duluth running a major drug operation who had money hidden under his bathroom tiles that was commuted. I also disagreed with the pardon of the president's son.

The speaker emphasizes that Trump had the authority to declassify documents as the president of the United States. They argue that the elected president should have control over government documents, not unelected bureaucrats. They mention that Trump's actions of taking the documents to Mar-a-Lago were within his rights as president. They believe that this is not a frivolous legal argument, but rather a reflection of Article 2 of the U.S. Constitution. They assert that if Article 2 does not apply in this situation, then the entire constitution becomes meaningless.

Speaker 0 contends that a large number of pardons were issued by the auto pen on the final day of the Biden presidency, and asserts there is no record showing that Joe Biden participated in the authorization of those pardons. The speaker claims that these pardons include notable examples such as those for Dr. Anthony Fauci, members of the Biden family, Adam Schiff, the January 6 committee, and an extensive list that the speaker describes as continuing at length. The core assertion is that every one of these pardons was signed with the auto pen and there is no evidence that Joe Biden was personally involved in the decision-making process behind them. According to the speaker, the absence of Biden’s involvement in the decision-making is a key element of the argument, and the implication is that this absence of direct participation should be recognized in legal terms. The speaker further states that these pardons could be declared null and void by the Department of Justice. The underlying claim is that there is a basis for such a nullification rooted in the way the pardons were issued, specifically the use of the auto pen and the lack of documented presidential involvement. The speaker also asserts that the ongoing investigation will produce evidence that will support the DOJ’s decision to void the pardons. In this framing, the investigation’s forthcoming findings are presented as capable of reinforcing the claim that the pardons were improperly issued or improperly authorized due to the absence of direct presidential action. The overall narrative presented is one of procedural challenge to the pardons, anchored in the asserted method of issuance (the auto pen) and the supposed lack of Biden’s participation in the process. The speaker emphasizes a sequence in which the pardons, if deemed void, would be reversed or nullified by official action from the Department of Justice, with future investigative evidence expected to validate that outcome in court.

Speaker 1 believes there's an open legal challenge regarding the use of an AutoPen for pardons. The typical AutoPen approval process requires signatures from at least five people, including attorneys, policy makers, and the president. Speaker 1 claims President Trump stated that no such signatures exist and the origin of the AutoPen use is unknown. Speaker 1 agrees with President Trump that this is a problem. Speaker 1 suggests testing the legality of the pardons by indicting someone who received one.

Have you ever heard of someone innocent receiving a preemptive pardon? It's typically reserved for those close to the president, like family or associates. Seeking such pardons raises questions about guilt; if someone is innocent, why would they need one? Preemptive pardons suggest that crimes may have been committed, even if not publicly known. If the president issues these pardons, it may be framed as protecting his family from external threats. The obsession with pardons indicates concern over potential criminal culpability. The idea of a permanent pardon raises further questions about accountability. If figures like Rudy Giuliani receive pardons, many would interpret that as an admission of guilt, questioning the necessity of such actions if there were no wrongdoing.

The speaker alleges a serious issue involving "auto pen pardons." They claim it was a "cash for clemency deal," where staffers exploited a "bogus legal system" to process pardon forms. The speaker believes these forms were then auto-penned, resulting in undeserving individuals being released, while someone profited from the scheme.

The president can pardon individuals before they're charged. Trump may issue a plan. Influencers can help. The situation is fluid. Powell can't reach him. Handlers block her. Unclear who will enact the plan. Don't talk politics.

Sheriff Joe, a patriot who protected our borders, was unfairly treated by the Obama administration before an election he would have won. Despite this, I stand by my pardon of Sheriff Joe. The people of Arizona, who know him best, would agree with me.

The speaker questions why Donald Trump would be considering pardoning a known sex trafficker, Ghislaine Maxwell, and notes that there has been no satisfactory explanation from MAGA supporters. They point out that Maxwell abused kids and that Trump has already given her a “really nice prison… like a club fed,” and is now considering pardoning her. The speaker asks, “He said it. Yeah, I'd consider why? Okay, hey, would you consider pardoning Khalid Sheikh Mohammed? I bet he would say no to that, as he should. Would you consider partnering Ghislain Maxwell, a known sex trafficker who abused kids? I have to think about it. Why? Why Mago? Why? Why would he have to think about it?” They urge that, before mentioning Biden, one must explain why Donald Trump would consider it, insisting that Biden is not president and is not the answer. The speaker asserts that Biden wasn’t the one who made a big deal about releasing the Epstein files. In contrast, they claim Trump attacked Biden for not releasing the Epstein files, whereas Biden assumed DOJ was doing their job and Trump didn’t. The speaker maintains that Trump can release the Epstein files right now. They further state that if someone brings up Biden in response, the only acceptable way to do so without appearing to defend a sex trafficker would be to first answer the question: why would Donald Trump even consider it? The speaker ends by saying they look forward to reading the response.

Joining us are former federal prosecutors Jason Manning and Ashley Akers, discussing the implications of recent pardons. Jason Manning expresses concern that these pardons send a damaging message, particularly highlighted by Sergeant Genell of the Capitol Police, who described them as a mockery of the sacrifices made by officers defending democracy on January 6. Manning emphasizes that this suggests crimes committed in the name of the president are acceptable, undermining the integrity of the justice system and the support police officers need to do their jobs effectively.

President Trump recently issued a controversial pardon for Sheriff Joe Arpaio, a hardliner on illegal immigration in Arizona. Democrats argue that this pardon condones racism, while Republican senators from Arizona claim it undermines the rule of law. Speaker of the House Paul Ryan's spokesman stated that Ryan does not agree with the decision, but many doubt his willingness to truly stand up to Trump. The video humorously compares Ryan's supposed opposition to a customer complaining about food to a waiter, suggesting that Ryan's resistance is not genuine.