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The top leaders were convicted despite not directly committing the crimes. There was no international court, body of law, judges, or courthouse at the time. They had to start from scratch. A lawyer named Marie Bernays devised a philosophy for the trial, the conspiracy theory. It claimed that the Nazi movement was not just a political movement, but a criminal conspiracy to seize territory, steal wealth, exterminate Jews, etc. Being part of the Nazi leadership meant being part of this criminal conspiracy.

During World War II, the Germans ran prison and labor camps, including Auschwitz in Poland. The Holocaust, the genocide of 6 million Jews and 5 million non-Jews, is said to have taken place there. However, some people question the evidence and claim it has never been proven. The Auschwitz main camp, now a tourist attraction, is presented as a gas chamber and crematorium, but there are doubts about its authenticity. The gas chamber is a reconstruction, and there are discrepancies in the information provided by tour guides and experts. The Soviet Union, which provided much of the evidence, has a history of propaganda and deception. The debate about the Holocaust continues.

During World War II, the Soviet Union was a military ally whose anti-Nazi propaganda was accepted and later integrated into historical accounts. One speaker states their belief that 6,000,000 Jews were killed in the war by Adolf Hitler and the Nazis. They then ask another speaker, the president of Iran and a scholar, if he believes that 6,000,000 Jews were killed by the Nazis, or if he thinks that is not true. The other speaker says he doesn't think 6,000,000 Jews were gassed, and cautions that this statement is against the law in Germany, and could result in imprisonment.

In 1899, a Zionist proposed a plan to the Russian czar for the "final solution" of the Jewish question. This idea was further discussed in 1919 and later in 1940, with references to assimilation not being the answer. The British Jews also had a policy regarding this issue. Israeli lawyer and diplomat.

Hitler and the National Socialists did not view other races as subhuman, contrary to post-war propaganda. The term "master race" was a mistranslation, referring to Germans being masters of themselves and their country. "Lebensraum" means living space, not brutality against other races. Jewish supremacists use race to describe their own, projecting the idea of an Aryan master race onto Germans to deflect from their own racism.

Deborah said that this new form of antisemitism is not so new anti-Zionism. Speaker 0 responds that this is not new, noting that the first document of anti-Zionism is The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, written in response to the world Zionist congresses. It was true: the Jews were gathering to hatch their international plans, and we still do. Right? But what I think is...

The term "final solution of the Jewish question" was first used by the sinuses in 1897. It was part of their manifesto, stating the need for a Jewish state due to the shortcomings of civic emancipation in securing the Jewish people's future socially and culturally. This phrase predated the NSDAP and was a key idea in the National Jewish Association's program called thesis.

Camps in Poland were set up to help Jews immigrate. The Nazis called it the "final solution" to move Jews from Europe to the East, Palestine, or Madagascar.

Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews at the time. He wanted to expel the Jews.

National Socialists in Germany wanted Jews to leave, while Zionists wanted them to go to Palestine to establish a Jewish state.

"Hitler claims in his book that the Jews are communists." "They made the Russian revolution." "They killed their 30,000,000 Russians, all the intelligent ones, in a cruel and horrific way." "And that's their plan for the entire world. The next country in line is Germany." "If we don't defeat them now, they will eliminate us, and they will slaughter another 20,000,000, all the intelligent people." "The Russian revolution was made by the Jews." "The Russian army was built by Trotsky, who was an incredible genius and antisemite like no other." "Who founded the KGB? Jews." "The Jews destroyed religion and faith." "Out of nine large German newspapers, seven were owned by Jews." "Now you understand why they don't teach it in schools?" "Because who writes the curriculum? Those same leftists." "They spread in Germany the heresy in God." "I feel like the messenger of God to exterminate the Jews because they don't believe in him."

The transcript describes the Weimar Republic (1918–1933) as a dark era for Germany, naming it a period defined by degeneracy, hopelessness, poverty, and death. Poverty intensified after the Versailles Treaty, with hyperinflation attributed to Jewish influences over the monetary system. It states that 4,000,000,000 marks equaled 1 US dollar and that people used money as fuel for fire, with the ink on banknotes more valuable than the money itself, leading to widespread desperation and over twenty-five thousand suicides annually. Unemployment exceeded five million, and prostitution was rampant, with some cities reporting that one in three women resorted to it, including along with their daughters. It claims child trafficking and prostitution were common, with children on street corners holding signs listing prices for sexual acts, which could be ordered and delivered. The transcript asserts that nationalists and communists were killing each other in the streets. It characterizes the era as marked by Jewish domination of banks, media, industries, academia, and law, claiming that Jews owned 150 private banks in Berlin despite being less than 1% of the population, and that Germans owned only 11. It further claims that most cinemas, newspapers, and publications were in Jewish hands. It references the Frankfurt School for Critical Theory and asserts that Jews pushed a list of degeneracy onto Germany, including destruction of the family, destruction of tradition, destruction of culture, multiracialism, weakening of nation-states, political correctness and intolerance, democratization and emancipation, equality dogma, equality of sexes, homosexualization of society, ideological loss of reality, promiscuity, and destruction of environmental protection requirements. A quote attributed to a Jewish doctor allegedly summarizing these aims is provided: “Whilst large sections of the German nation were struggling for the preservation of their race, We Jews filled the streets of Germany with our vociferations. We supplied the press with articles on the subject of its Christmas and Easter and administered to its religious beliefs in the manner we considered suitable. We ridiculed the highest ideals of the German nation and profaned the matters which it holds sacred.” The quote is attributed to Doctor Manfred Reifer in the German Jewish magazine Chernowitzer Allegemein Zeitung, September 1933. The transcript concludes by stating that Adolf Hitler removed Jews from positions of influence in mass media, literature, art, music, journalism, cinema, and popular entertainment.

In 1920, Winston Churchill wrote that international Jews were using communism and Zionism to establish a global Jewish dominion.

Speaker 0 urges historical perspective, noting the wartime Soviet alliance and that their anti-Nazi propaganda was accepted by the Allies; as victors, the Soviets "got to commit their propaganda to the history books as fact." He says current knowledge of Stalin's despotism and the KGB's deception, and the camps Majdanek, Belzec, Kelno, Treblinka, and Sobibor, have required relying on Soviet sources. "I believe in the inarguable fact that 6,000,000 Jews were killed in the war by Adolf Hitler and Nazis." He asks Speaker 2 if he believes that figure. Speaker 2 replies, "But I don't think 6,000,000 Jews were gassed. Now be careful. I I beg of you. This is against the law in Germany. If there was a German somebody that's in German state, you could have me thrown into prison before I leave Germany."

The speaker discusses a plan, referred to as plan A, to mass murder 6,000,000 German citizens. The plan involved contaminating water supplies with poison in four major cities. The speaker states that Kovner designed the plan to be deliberately random, with the intention that Germans would experience indiscriminate murder, mirroring the Jewish experience.

Hitler initially aimed to expel the Jews rather than exterminate them. Khad Amin al Husseini advised Hitler that if they were expelled, they would likely migrate to his region.

The speaker argues that the Protocols of Zion are not a hoax, asserting that after months of in-depth research they are not merely slightly ordered but real. They state that the 24 protocols describe a vision of the world, its population, and an ultimate goal: absolute world dominance and a one-world government, with “their king, the king of kings,” crowned on the throne of Zion to rule forever. The speaker mentions theories that the protocols were copied from nineteenth-century works, such as Maurice Jolie’s Dialogue in Hell between Machiavelli and Montesquieu, and from Jacob Venedet’s writings, as well as Baruel’s four books about the French Revolution linking secret societies to the culprits. A court case declaring the Protocols a forgery is noted, but the speaker insists their study found many similarities with Jolie’s work, though not a direct conclusion that the protocols were copied; rather, they are connected and not new when published in Russia in 1905. The claim is made that the protocols were not the minutes of a recent Zionist meeting. The speaker, presenting themselves as a linguist with paleography expertise, critiques the court verdict as based on an unprofessional approach and argues the problem with the Protocols is their emotional surroundings, shaped by the reader’s beliefs about Jews. They claim bias: those who blame Jews for world ills tend to see the protocols as genuine, while those who have Jewish ties may view them as a 1905 fraud. The speaker contends the protocols are very old and may be the source text for later works, not the other way around, and they reference Adam Weishaupt (founder of the Illuminati) and Rothschild, suggesting the latter’s power and possession of original documents and protocols. They speculate the protocols could have been given to Weishaupt by Rothschild, potentially tying Khazar/Jewish lineage to the creation of the text and aiming to use it as anti-Semitic propaganda during upheavals like the Russian Revolution and world wars. The content of the protocols is laid out as portraying how a cabal would control through all means: controlling the masses, “we shall move the mobs by want envy and hatred,” turning “Goyim” into a manipulated population, and making presidents puppets. The text describes how liberalism, freemasonry, and secret lodges would be used as intelligence networks, with most high-level agents within police and secret societies. The protocols allegedly advocate using the press to manipulate public opinion, create economic crises, raise wages while increasing prices, distract the public with amusements, and infiltrate all layers of society. The aim is to establish a centralized, global administration where law and education are redesigned, freedom is erased, religion suppressed except for a particular faith, and a new, merciless regime enforced by fear and surveillance. Details include plans to absorb state forces gradually, implement a covert coup, punish or exile dissent, and place a single, all-powerful authority above all nations. The king of the world would become both ruler and pope of a universal church, with a transition to despotism where freedoms disappear and loyalty to the state is enforced. The speaker notes that the “chosen king” would destroy opposition once in power, and that the “new kingdom” would centralize control, eliminate alternative religions, and prohibit freedom of press, association, and conscience. They conclude by foreshadowing part five and contemplating whether the Khazarian king’s rise is imminent.

"I almost don't know these Jews." "Yeah. I saw what happened in Palestine." "In nineteen o five, the Jews went to Russia to try to kill the czar." "When the Russians found out what happened, they stopped them and put them out." "The Germans let them in in nineteen o five in mass numbers fleeing Russia." "They weren't fleeing persecution. They were fearing justice." "They tried to kill the czar." "The Germans let them get into banking." "Everything is made in Germany now." "The Jews took over." "Germans won World War one." "It's the Balfour Declaration." "America stepping into World War one made zero sense." "We want them at war with each other." "They told them, just give us Palestine as our homeland, and we get it." "Yeah. And it wasn't theirs to give."

In February 1945, Stalin traveled to the Black Sea resort of Yalta to attend the most historic of the big three conferences of the war. At the Yalta conference, the plot to reshaping of the postwar world was made. The biggest winner was Stalin. Churchill muttered to Stalin, "We have killed six or 7,000,000 Germans, and probably there would be another million or so killed before the end of the war."

Speaker 0 states that there is not the slightest evidence Adolf Hitler knew what was happening to the Jews, to the Holocaust, or to Auschwitz. He says he has offered £1,000 English money, 2,000 Canadian dollars, since 1977 and over the last nine years in television programs and worldwide media, to anyone who can find one wartime document showing that Hitler even knew about Auschwitz or about what was going on in the Eastern Front. He asserts that nobody can find such a document, and that historians hesitate, look at each other, and ask if someone else has the proof. He recounts that Jekyll says no, Hilgeruber says no, Jakobson says perhaps Bouchard has it, and Bouchard says he thought Jekyll had it, so they go around in circles. Because they cannot prove they have the evidence, they turn on he (Irving), accusing him of fascism and discrediting him, claiming nobody should believe him. He then says he has come up in the archives with a whole string of documents that meet his criteria—genuine documents written by people in positions to know, created not for any exterior or ulterior motive. He describes these as a narrow file of documents showing Hitler deliberately, explicitly linked to the Holocaust as we can say, or linked to the fate of the Jews, that great tragedy. He asserts that all these documents show Hitler intervening to stop anything nasty happening to the Jews. The core claims are: (1) there is no wartime document proving Hitler knew about Auschwitz or the Holocaust; (2) his ongoing public challenge and financial offer to discover such a document; (3) the existence of a verified set of documents written by insiders, allegedly showing Hitler intervening to prevent harm to the Jews, and explicitly linking Hitler to the Holocaust in his actions.

Hitler initially wanted to expel the Jews, not exterminate them. Khadz Amin al Husseini told Hitler that if he expelled the Jews, they would all come to his location. When Hitler asked what he should do with them, al-Husseini allegedly told him to burn them.

The speaker discusses the persistence of claims that Adolf Hitler was Jewish, Zionist, or connected to Jewish heritage, and argues that these claims are unfounded and perpetuated by rumor rather than solid evidence. He notes how the Internet has changed information dissemination, making it easy for unvetted claims to spread globally. Key points: - Two prevalent themes in the Patriot movement are (1) that the Nazis took over America, with claims like Jim Mars promoting this fraud, and (2) the claim that Adolf Hitler was Jewish, used by some to distance themselves from antisemitism. - Adolf Hitler was not Jewish. The speaker cites Martin Kerr’s 1982 essay, The Myth of Hitler’s Jewish Grandfather, to outline why the Jewish-grandfather claim is unsubstantiated. - Kerr explains several versions of the myth: - The notion that Alois Hitler’s fatherhood came from a Jewish grandfather named Frankenberger or a Rothschild figure, which Kerr states are unsupported by evidence. The speaker notes that Alois Hitler’s paternity can’t be linked to such figures, and a photo does not support those genealogies. - The claim that a Polish Jew named Hitler (a name shared by a Jewish newspaper figure) was Hitler’s grandfather is invalid because that Jew was born in 1832, only five years older than Hitler’s father, making him impossible as the sire. - Claims from an anti-Hitler German who was part Jewish are dismissed as unfounded. - Hans Frank’s memoirs (In the Face of the Gallows) are discussed, where Frank claimed he investigated threats to expose Hitler’s alleged Jewish ancestor, but the speaker notes it’s impossible to document a Jewish grandfather for Hitler. Werner Maeser, a German historian, is cited: no Frankenberger family lived in Graz in the 1830s, a Jewish presence there was absent, and Maria Schickelgruber (Hitler’s mother) could not have been impregnated by a Jew in Graz prior to Alois’s birth. - Ian Kershaw is cited as noting there was no evidence of a Jewish Frankenberger in Graz; Frankenreiter existed but was not Jewish. - The speaker emphasizes that Hitler’s alleged Jewish ancestry is unsupported by credible scholarship. He mentions that some narratives arise from a book sometimes titled Hitler, Founder of Germany or Hitler, founder of Israel, which he criticizes as poorly translated and unconvincing evidence. He mentions Colonel Don DeGrand Prix referenced this questionable book, but the speaker asserts the book’s content is weak. - He distinguishes that while there were Jews in Hitler’s military due to Nuremberg Laws’ definitions, and some individuals of Jewish descent fought in German forces, this does not prove Hitler was Jewish or Zionist. - He asserts: Hitler was not Jewish, not Zionist, and not Rothschild-connected. He warns against repeating rumors and urges reliance on solid research. - He reiterates that the idea of Hitler being Jewish, a Zionist, or connected to the Rothschilds is a myth, and insists listeners should abandon it and seek verifiable evidence. He ends by stating there were elements in Hitler’s government that supported Jewish immigration to Palestine for strategic reasons, but that does not equate to Hitler being Zionist or Jewish.

Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss Nazi chemical capabilities and the use of Zyklon B. Speaker 0 states that Nazis had developed sarin gas and tabun, "nasty deadly nerve gases," and argues that the idea they would actually use Zyklon B, which was essential for maintaining health in the camps, is ridiculous. Speaker 1 agrees, saying it seems ridiculous and that “the whole story” appears ridiculous once examined. Speaker 1 adds that years ago they investigated because it was illegal, noting changes over time, and that they felt compelled to keep quiet. Speaker 0 then shifts to logistics, noting that there are documents on trains that came in, the amounts of coke used in the crematoria, and that everything is well documented, including the number of people who actually made it to Auschwitz. He mentions Red Cross–related deaths as part of the documentation but the sentence trails off: “The deaths by the Red Cross I think were put.”

Hitler initially wanted to expel the Jews, not exterminate them. However, Khad Amin al Husseini approached Hitler and expressed concern that if the Jews were expelled, they would come to his region. In response, Hitler suggested burning them.

Nazis were enemies of communism, which killed hundreds of millions. The claim that Hitler killed 6,000,000 Jews is untrue and a fabrication. According to the speaker, spending time researching revisionist sources online will show that evidence contradicts the emotional backing for the claim that 6,000,000 Jews were wickedly killed in gas chambers by the Nazis. The speaker asserts that all the emotion is on one side, while all the evidence is on the other.