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The speaker claims that COVID vaccines had more risks than benefits. They argue that the risk of infection increased, while the risk of hospitalization and death from COVID remained unchanged. They also suggest that all-cause mortality increased due to the vaccines. The speaker criticizes the vaccines as one of the worst interventions in medical history. They mention global censorship, where those trying to speak the truth are censored. Additionally, they highlight immunity for drug companies and intimidation tactics, such as job loss or loss of credentials, against doctors who speak the truth.

Public health officials during the pandemic acted more like dictators than scientists, suppressing credible dissent. Early on, they dismissed the lab leak hypothesis as conspiracy, only recently acknowledging its plausibility. Martin Kulldorff from Harvard, Sunita Gupta from Oxford, and I proposed a focused protection strategy in October 2020, which was labeled fringe by then NIH director Francis Collins, despite support from thousands of professionals. Government agencies collaborated with social media to control the narrative around COVID science, creating a false sense of consensus. The public deserves answers about the basis for school closures, whether the harms of policies were adequately considered, and why natural immunity and vaccine transmission failures were overlooked in mandates.

The speaker has 32 years of experience in the pharmaceutical and biotech industries, with senior positions at Pfizer, including vice president and worldwide head of research in allergic and respiratory diseases. Since 2020, the speaker claims to have been speaking out against the fraudulent pandemic and the intentionally dangerous injections. The speaker states that they have been censored and smeared as a result. The speaker suggests that censorship and smearing is the experience of people who try to convey truths that authorities want suppressed.

It is nearly impossible to publish data that goes against the national public health narrative, preventing doctors from finding solutions. The speaker has conducted clinical trials for pharmaceutical companies, including vaccine studies, and has brought vaccines and other drugs to market. Some drugs never made it to market because they killed people. Clinical trial guidelines ensure safe drugs, but these guidelines were not followed during the pandemic, affecting everyone. COVID should have been a time for doctors to unite, but interference with research occurred. Science evolves through experiments, skepticism, and an open mind. Challenging current knowledge must be allowed to move science forward, but what the speaker witnessed during the pandemic was not science.

In the past, medical advice on eggs, aspirin, and other issues has been corrected without retracting articles. However, during the COVID pandemic, poorly researched articles were used to attack individuals like us. Now, as COVID cases decrease, these articles are being withdrawn from public view. If evidence is being buried, shouldn't that raise a red flag for you?

Back then, you couldn't say anything about masks or vaccines without facing censorship. It was considered a public health threat. Now, two years later, we're seeing news admitting that there were mistakes due to censorship. No one was interested in the truth or studying the situation. People were more focused on imposing restrictions and control. We need freedom to debate. It's concerning that a public organization can gather and accuse someone of lying on the internet without any consequences. Is this the solution? Is this the way forward?

Speaker 0: They think I'm dangerous for speaking the truth. Speaker 1: Dr. Stella Emmanuel was part of a video claiming, without evidence, that hydroxychloroquine is a cure for COVID-19. The video was taken down by social media platforms for spreading misinformation. Despite the backlash, Dr. Emmanuel insists that hydroxychloroquine could be part of a cure. Dr. Anthony Fauci disagrees, stating that scientific data consistently shows hydroxychloroquine is not effective in treating COVID-19.

"there wasn't a pandemic, there wasn't a public health emergency, there was nothing unusual happening." "In order for an emergency to be declared, which I think he did in 2020, March, whatever it was, He has to have some evidence of that." "There is nowhere in the world you can find increased frequency of respiratory illness and respiratory deaths anywhere until after the WHO called a pandemic." "They called a pandemic with no evidence of a pandemic." "They were lying to you." "Then they created the we, all our governments, created the impression of a pandemic by using misusing a test that doesn't measure what it says, PCR." "It's not a mistake. They they knew it was rubbish." "It's as simple as that." "If you go and look for it, you'll not find the evidence."

I was jailed for speaking out, do you agree? I don't want another lockdown. The speaker presents a book exposing research fraud behind vaccine mandates to a senator.

Many people who have been criticized for their stance on vaccinations have faced significant consequences. They have lost friends, media allies, and sponsorship deals. The speaker and another person discuss how their own beliefs and health reasons for not getting vaccinated were met with backlash. They mention the vilification of early treatments, including a medicine with a safe profile that has been widely used around the world. They suggest that early treatments are not promoted because it would hinder the use of vaccines. They also mention individuals like Peter McCullough and Robert Malone, highlighting their credibility and ethical standards. Peter McCullough is noted as the most published doctor in his field of study.

The government crossed a bright red line when it suppressed scientific and policy discussions during COVID, treating dissenting voices as akin to those of international terrorists. This suppression is wrong; free speech, allowing debate among scientists, policymakers, and the public, is a fundamental American norm. The government's actions prevented this debate, leading to harmful lockdown policies, vaccine mandates, job losses, prolonged school closures, and economic devastation. This censorship, ironically, cost lives. Contrary to claims that free speech is dangerous during a pandemic, upholding the First Amendment would have saved lives and reduced the damage and destruction we experienced.

Speaker 0: There were four drugs that were being tested for Ebola. Remdesivir killed more people than placebo, and the data safety monitoring board had actually stopped the study where literally fifty three percent of Speaker 1: the patients died in the failed Ebola trial and was repurposed. It was a failed Ebola drug because it caused more harm than good in Ebola trials. It was still unpatent. It was Tony Fauci's drug of choice. The majority of hospital deaths were actually caused by Anthony Fauci because his NIH put out protocols that if the hospital systems adhered to, they got bonuses, big bonuses, lots of money, $3,000 per for putting an IV in of remdesivir. Boom. $3,000. But guess what? On top of the entire hospital stay, a 20% bonus, that could be hundreds of thousands of dollars. Speaker 0: The data was so overwhelming that remdesivir killed patients more so than placebo. The drug had to be stopped, and this was published in the New England Journal in the 2019. Speaker 2: What happened during COVID could not have happened without propaganda and censorship. And how do we overcome that propaganda and censorship? It's primarily through people not being willing to shut up.

The speaker claims the Biden administration covered up science related to the COVID shot. Information related to vaccine complications was allegedly censored as COVID vaccine hesitant content. The speaker alleges the heart inflammation in young, healthy men and boys was not disclosed as soon as it should have been, resulting in thousands of kids developing myocarditis unnecessarily. The speaker suggests the administration knew the shot didn't stop transmission but kept it secret. The head of the FDA is cited as saying the Biden administration suppressed information about myocarditis damage to children. The speaker believes this sounds criminal, especially considering mandates for school, work, and travel.

- The discussion opens with a critique of how public health authorities in the United States and much of the media discouraged experimentation with COVID-19 treatments, instead pushing vaccination and portraying other approaches as dangerous. The hosts ask why treatments were sidelined and treated as heretical to question. - Speaker 1 explains that the core idea was to stamp out “vaccine hesitation,” which he frames not as a purely scientific issue but as a form of heresy. He notes a broad literature on vaccine hesitancy and contrasts it with the perception of the vaccine as a liberating savior. He points to a Vatican €20 silver coin (2022) commemorating the COVID-19 vaccine, described by Vatican catalogs as “a boy prepares to receive the Eucharist,” which the speakers interpret as an overlay of religious iconography with vaccination imagery. They also reference Diego Rivera’s mural in Detroit, interpreted as depicting the vaccine as a Eucharist, and a South African church banner reading “even the blood of Christ cannot protect you, get vaccinated,” highlighting what they see as provocative uses of religious symbolism to promote vaccination. - They claim that the Biden administration’s COVID Vaccine Corps distributed billions of dollars to major sports leagues (NFL, MLB) and that many mainline churches reportedly received money to push vaccination, with many clergy not opposing the push. The implication is that monetary incentives influenced public figures and organizations to advocate for vaccines, contributing to a climate in which questioning orthodoxy was difficult. - The speakers discuss the social dynamics around vaccine “heresy,” using Aaron Rodgers’ experience with isolation and shaming in the NFL and Novak Djokovic’s experiences in Australia to illustrate how prominent individuals who questioned or fell outside the orthodoxy faced punitive pressure. They compare this to a Reformation-era conflict over doctrinal correctness and describe a psychology of stigmatizing dissent as a tool to enforce conformity. - They argue the imperative driving institutions was the belief that the vaccine was the central, non-negotiable public-health objective, seemingly above other medical considerations. The central question they raise is why vaccines became the sole priority, seemingly overriding a broader, more nuanced evaluation of medical options and individual risk. - The conversation shifts to epistemology and the nature of science. Speaker 1 suggests medicine often relies on orthodoxies and presuppositions, rather than purely empirical processes. He recounts a Kantian view that interpretation depends on preexisting categories, and he uses this to argue that medical decision-making can be constrained by established doctrines, which may obscure questions about optimization and safety. - They recount the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act and discuss Sara Sotomayor’s dissent, which argued that liability exposure is a key incentive for safety and improvement in vaccine development. They argue that the current system creates minimal liability for manufacturers, reducing the incentive to optimize safety, and they use this to question how the system encourages continuous safety improvements. - The hosts recount the early-treatment movement led by Peter McCullough and others, including a Senate hearing organized by Ron Johnson in November 2020 to discuss early-treatment options with FDA-approved drugs like hydroxychloroquine. They criticize what they describe as aggressive pushback against such approaches, noting that McCullough faced professional sanctions and lawsuits despite presenting peer-reviewed literature. - They return to the concept of orthodoxy and dogma, arguing that the medical establishment often suppresses dissent, citing YouTube removing a McCullough interview and the broader pattern of silencing challenge to the vaccine narrative. They stress that the social and institutional systems prize conformity and punish those who deviate, creating a climate of distrust toward official health bodies. - The discussion broadens into metaphysical and philosophical territory, with references to the Grand Inquisitor from Dostoevsky’s The Brothers Karamazov. They propose that elites—whether religious, political, or scientific—tend to prefer “taking care” of people through control rather than preserving individual responsibility and free will. The Grand Inquisitor tale is used to illustrate a recurring human temptation: to replace personal liberty with a protected, paternalistic order. - They discuss messenger RNA (mRNA) technology as a central manifestation of Promethean or Luciferian intellect—humans attempting to “read and write in the language of God.” They describe the scientific arc from transcription and translation to mRNA vaccines, noting Francis Collins’s The Language of God and the idea of humans “coding life.” They caution that mRNA vaccines involve injecting genetic material and point to the symbolic and ritual power of vaccination as a form of modern sacrament. - The speakers emphasize that the mRNA approach represents both a profound scientific achievement and a source of deep concern. They discuss fertility signals and potential adverse effects, including myocarditis in young people, and cite the July 2021 NEJM case study as highlighting safety concerns for myocarditis in adolescent males. They reference the FDA deliberative-committee discussions, noting that some influential voices publicly questioned the risk-benefit calculus for young people, yet faced pressure or dismissal within the orthodox framework. - They describe post-hoc investigations and testimonies suggesting that adverse events (like myocarditis) might have been downplayed or obscured, and they assert that public trust in health institutions has eroded as a result. They mention ongoing debates about whether vaccine-induced changes might affect future generations, referencing studies about transcripts of mRNA in cancer cells and liver cells, and they stress the need for independent scrutiny by scientists not “entranced” by the vaccine program. - The dialogue returns to the broader human condition: a tension between curiosity and restraint, knowledge and humility. They return to Dostoevsky’s moral questions about free will, responsibility, and the limits of human knowledge, concluding that scientific hubris can lead to dangerous consequences when it overrides open inquiry and accountability. - In closing, while the guests reflect on past missteps and the need for integrity in medicine, they underscore the ongoing questions about how evidence is interpreted, how dissent is treated, and how society balances scientific progress with humility, transparency, and respect for individual judgment.

"The man thinks you can take a blood sample and stick it in an electron microscope and if it's got a virus in there, you'll know it." "He doesn't understand electron microscopy and he doesn't understand medicine and he should not be in a position like he's in." "Most of those up there on the top are just total administrative people and they don't know anything about what's going on at the bottom." "They've got an agenda which is not what we would like them to have, being that we pay for them to take care of our health in some way." "They change them when they want to and they smugly like Tony Fauci does not mind going on television in front of the people to pay his salary and lie directly into the camera."

I cannot understand how anyone can recommend the mRNA vaccination and sleep well at night. They seem afraid to admit they were wrong. I want to give you a chance to address your colleagues, fellow pathologists, and medical professionals. My advice is to always question what so-called experts say. You don't need top scientists, you need experienced doctors who think critically. In the past, people died from the flu without it being turned into a pandemic or locking people away.

The speaker claims that the chief medical officer of health and Alberta Health Services have stated on record that there is no proof of the virus and no material evidence to support the use of the Public Health Act against the COVID-19 pandemic. They urge people to request their transcripts and court documents under the Freedom of Information Act. The speaker provides their contact information on Instagram, TikTok, and Twitter, mentioning their difficulties with multiple Facebook accounts and being censored. They also mention that their previous work and investigations have been erased from the internet, including interactions with First Nations, Hereditary Chiefs, and a pipeline project. They mention attending the Bilderberg conference and filming Canadian delegates with access to a large sum of Canadian taxpayers' money.

The speaker asserts that COVID-19 shots do more than affect the immune system; they can damage the brain and worsen mental health. They claim a wave of studies shows sharp increases in various strokes: ischemic strokes up to 44%, hemorrhagic strokes up to 50%, and transient ischemic attacks (mini strokes) up to 67%. They also report increases in neurological and autoimmune conditions, including myasthenia gravis up 71% and Alzheimer’s disease up 22%. Cognitive impairment is claimed to have risen by nearly 138%, while depression is up 68%, anxiety disorders up 44%, and sleep disorders up 93%. The speaker links all of these increases to “toxic spike protein accumulation and persistence in the brain.” The speaker states this is not a conspiracy theory and cites what they describe as documented peer‑reviewed research and studies by experts. They name epidemiologist Nicholas Holcher, who allegedly says that using mRNA to hijack cells in various organ systems to produce a highly toxic spike protein that persists in the body for months or years was “one of the worst ideas in medical history.” The speaker then asks, “So what can you do?” as a transition to presumably recommendations or actions, though no specific actions are listed in the provided segment.

The speaker claims to have gained two million subscribers in a month after being portrayed as a "maniac," because people found him reasonable. He cites interviewing Dr. Robert Malone, who has nine patents in mRNA vaccine technology and reported severe adverse effects, and Dr. Peter McCullough, described as the most published physician in his field, who took a moral stand and faced career destruction. The speaker states that McCullough was right all along. The speaker identifies people who are morally obligated to tell the truth and warns that people may be getting bamboozled.

Doctors can be fooled and pressured, and many are afraid to speak out against the government's COVID measures. The speaker mentions truckers who were allowed to work without vaccines or passports, but were criticized for questioning the safety of the vaccine. They discuss a study by Nakahara that found vaccinated individuals had hearts that worked 46% harder for 6-7 months after receiving the vaccine, while non-vaccinated individuals showed no increase in heart effort. The speaker concludes that this study proves the vaccine is harmful to the heart and criticizes the idea of giving booster shots every 6 months, which further strains the heart.

**Bahasa Melayu:** Penceramah berkongsi pengalamannya sebagai penasihat WHO dan pengetahuannya tentang vaksin. Beliau mendakwa telah memberi amaran tentang vaksin COVID-19 sebelum ia dikeluarkan, tetapi disenyapkan. Beliau mencadangkan alternatif seperti ivermectin, tetapi juga disekat. Isu COVID-19 digunakan untuk agenda lain, dengan vaksin sebagai fokus utama. Vaksin mRNA yang digunakan berbeza daripada vaksin tradisional dan dipromosikan secara agresif walaupun terdapat kesan sampingan. Pakar tempatan dan tokoh agama digunakan untuk mempromosikan vaksin, manakala pandangan alternatif disenyapkan. FDA digunakan sebagai sandaran untuk kelulusan vaksin kecemasan, walaupun terdapat pilihan rawatan lain. Maklumat yang salah disebarkan melalui media, dan percubaan untuk berkongsi maklumat alternatif disekat. Rakyat disogok untuk mengambil vaksin dan booster. Beliau mendakwa tiada bukti vaksin menyelamatkan nyawa, tetapi banyak bukti kesan buruk. Vaksin COVID-19 sebenarnya adalah terapi gen yang mengubah genetik manusia, menyebabkan pelbagai masalah kesihatan. Beliau menggesa orang ramai untuk tidak panik tentang virus dan fokus pada meningkatkan sistem imun. **English Translation:** The speaker shared his experience as a WHO advisor and his knowledge of vaccines. He claimed to have warned about the COVID-19 vaccine before its release but was silenced. He suggested alternatives like ivermectin but was also blocked. The COVID-19 issue was used for other agendas, with the vaccine as the main focus. The mRNA vaccines used differ from traditional vaccines and were aggressively promoted despite side effects. Local experts and religious figures were used to promote the vaccine, while alternative views were silenced. The FDA was used as a backup for emergency vaccine approval, even though other treatment options existed. Misinformation was spread through the media, and attempts to share alternative information were blocked. People were bribed to take vaccines and boosters. He claimed there is no evidence that vaccines save lives, but plenty of evidence of adverse effects. The COVID-19 vaccine is actually gene therapy that alters human genetics, causing various health problems. He urged people not to panic about the virus and focus on boosting their immune systems.

Speaker 0 argues that 'the trustworthiness of the information that we actually receive from the news media' is a major problem and notes that 'the easiest thing for our democratic colleagues to do is to scare people.' He asks, 'COVID nineteen was politicized?' Speaker 1 answers, 'the whole process was politicized' and says 'we were lied to about everything... the vaccines would prevent transmission' and 'they prevent infection'—claims he says are contradicted by 'the animal studies and the clinical trial showed.' He accuses the CDC of letting 'the teachers union' write school-closure orders that 'hurt working people all over the country, and then pretend it was science based.' He adds examples: 'Martin Koldor from Harvard' was 'ejected [from COVID]... because he wasn't in the orthodoxy'; 'FDA during COVID' officials 'Gruber and Krausz' criticized Biden mandates; Biden said, 'I would never take that vaccine, the Trump vaccine' then mandated it and fired top FDA officials who said it had not been properly tested.' The exchange ends with 'Yes.'

The speaker believes COVID vaccine programs should be stopped. They are astounded by the number of papers critical of the vaccine or showing negative effects. The speaker claims a group of researchers funded by Pfizer and the NIH bullies editors to retract papers with negative findings about the vaccine. They assert the number of retractions is appalling. According to the speaker, in one instance where an editor resisted, Nature Springer bought the journal and retracted the paper. The speaker states that this is what they have been dealing with.