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Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss how to read events and who was responsible, highlighting that “the best reading of what happened there is who wanted JFK dead the most,” with claims that “Israel wanted JFK dead” but that “Lyndon Baines Johnson and parts of our own government and the Cubans” were also involved. They emphasize that there were “like 15 or 20 things that happened that day that were inexcusable,” including changing the parade route, JFK in an open-air convertible, LBJ not riding alongside him, the vehicle slowing down, and the Texas School Book Depository. They argue that “more than one person did it,” not just Lee Harvey Oswald, and that acknowledging that could expose government lies about the assassination. Speaker 0 notes the shift in the public’s trust toward the government and argues that those who now question government credibility previously failed to acknowledge multiple actors in JFK’s death. He asks about the fallout of this shift, noting that the PBD (Patrick Bet-David) show and its audience are pro-Israel and that “70% of those people overwhelmingly agreed with you.” Speaker 2 agrees, stating that “Find somebody who has ignored Gaza being bombed” and who “can call Kansas a demon, but has never once called BB Netanyahu a demon,” will align with protecting the Charlie Kirk narrative. He says the discussion around JFK didn’t make sense within 48 hours and argues that people find it suspicious. He adds that even if one believes “Tyler Robinson pulled the trigger,” you cannot claim nobody else was involved because “we haven’t been told anything.” He says this reflects the same tactics used during BLM to shut down inquiry about George Floyd, arguing that people who supported him on George Floyd would not say “there's no evidence” merely because Floyd had fentanyl in his system. They frame this as evidence that the narrative is being built and that scientific inquiry requires asking questions. Speaker 0 recounts learning during COVID that “it came from a bat in the Himalayas,” that “the vaccine was safe and effective,” and that “ivermectin was horse-paced,” asserting that questioning is essential for freedom. He references a Glenn Beck interview with Erica Kirk and describes elitist attitudes that equate trust in experts with correct understanding, characterizing the exchange as elitist and contrived. He argues Turning Point USA was not built on experts and would not survive if it continues down this path.

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They claim that the execution of the president was ordered by the policy committee of the Bilderberg Group in The Hague in Geneva, Switzerland, and was carried out by agents of the secret government in Dallas. The man who actually administered the coup de grace was the driver of the car, William Greer. They assert that Greer turned with an assassination pistol in his left hand and shot the president point blank in the head over his right shoulder. They reference a film in beautiful living color that allegedly shows this with your own eyes. They assert that you can see in the film that Greer fired the shot. They claim it is the Zupruder film, and that it was incredible that the event had been hidden from the public for all these years, but that the same film has been shown on television for all these years, yet they say television has always zoomed in on Kennedy and cut the driver out so you can never see it. They state that the Zupruder film was never shown to the Warren Commission and that they never saw it. In summary, the assertion is that the assassination was ordered by a high-level policy group and executed by secret-government-backed agents, with William Greer as the shooter, captured in a living-color film that has been publicly broadcast in a distorted way, and that this critical footage was never presented to the Warren Commission.

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The discussion centers on the Zapruder film, an amateur film taken by Abraham Zapruder, a Dallas dress manufacturer, which captured the assassination of President Kennedy. The film is described as a valuable historical document. The footage shows the presidential motorcade moving through Dealey Plaza. As the car passes, the president is shot. According to the speaker, the Warren Commission claimed Lee Harvey Oswald, acting alone, fired all shots from behind. However, the film purportedly shows the president's head being thrown violently backwards, suggesting a shot from the front. The speaker claims this is consistent with witness accounts stating shots came from the grassy knoll in front of the president. The film also shows people running towards the area where the shots were believed to have originated.

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Speaker 0: "it's a military operation, calling out that Tyler wasn't on the roof, that he didn't take that shot, that he was involved in this, that he was dumping clothing, that this has a full intelligence, full scale military operation written all over it." "Shit stinks to high heaven," and "false flag attack is imminent, guaranteed to take place on our gov in our on USA." Speaker 1: "I actually believe that this was a military hit that involved foreign actors and also literal actors." "That day ran something akin to JFK's assassination." "there were therefore multiple decoys on the ground." "four decoys, like George Zinn, staircase guy, maroon shirt guy, and lozy center guy." "Lance Twiggs is the one that is walking in that maroon shirt." "Tyler Robinson was involved, and he was in fact driving around campus on that day, therefore assisting in the costume changes, likely picking up clothing." "Tyler was seen at Dairy Queen." "Dumping clothing in the cemetery beside that Dairy Queen." "That was his job, to get rid of clothing."

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Speaker 0: "We still have, basically confirmation he got shot. ... immediate incapacitation." He asserts "the FBI is lying" and that "it's quite literally not possible for the shooter to have been on the roof that they claim he is along with other inconsistencies across the board." Speaker 1: "Keep your eye on this space here... the bullet matches the exit wound, ... the shirt puffing up and the angle of the entry and exit." He adds: "the same what appears to be the bullet coming down and it does line up with the actual gunshot itself." From Google Earth, "the shooter was up here somewhere, that's the angle that the bullet was coming down from." "the shooter was most likely here somewhere." "Somewhere on those stairs would be my tip, and if the FBI aren't looking there, I don't know why."

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Charlie Kirk addresses perspectives on political assassinations, including JFK’s. In the JFK files, Mossad is mentioned, but not tied to involvement; the best reading is “who wanted JFK dead the most,” with Israel frequently cited, yet Lyndon Baines Johnson, parts of the U.S. government, and the Cubans also implicated. There were “like, 15 or 20 things that happened that day that were inexcusable,” such as changing the parade route, JFK riding in an open-air convertible, LBJ not riding alongside him, the vehicle slowing down as it passed the Texas School Book Depository. The question emphasized is not only who did it, but that more than one person did it; acknowledging that could reveal government lies about JFK, leading to a broader skepticism about future government trust. Another participant comments that Charlie Kirk reminded viewers of common sense and not accepting force-fed narratives or “BS crap” from the government regarding a single gunman; the discussion notes “multiple people were involved” and “a lot of strange things occurred” that day. This aligns with a broader critique of government psychological operations: MK Ultra, Mockingbird, and Mockingbird II. The first government surveillance on the people after JFK’s assassination is described as Mockingbird I, designed to convince there was nothing to see despite much to see, with Mockingbird II deployed again to convince people that questions about Kirk’s narrative are crazy and to suggest there may be Turning Point USA employees engaged in an obvious cover-up. Frank Turek is cited as saying it’s crazy to imply betrayal by trusted individuals, though the historical note mentions Jesus Christ as a betrayal example; the discussion asserts JFK personally selected LBJ as vice president, and that LBJ was clearly implicated in JFK’s assassination. Charlie is said to be open to the idea that Mossad may have been involved, and he asserts that parts of the U.S. government and the Cubans were involved; he asks for more argument regarding Mossad. He suggests JFK’s assassination was plausible to involve multiple actors and notes that the question of “who wanted JFK dead the most” should be pursued further, including in examining who would want Charlie Kirk dead and why. The dialogue then moves to the political fast lane, with three motives for those who might want him dead: money, secrets, and power. He says he refused money, implying he knows his secrets; his youth political organization has gained influence. The discussion speculates on global implications, naming France, Israel, the U.S. government, and Egypt as mentioned in connection with the investigation. The McCrone couple are described as having paid for an assassination threat, and, notably, neither the Pentagon nor the White House or intelligence agencies nor the Elysee Palace dispute that narrative; the FBI is now listed as not denying that threat.

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A speaker asks if the recipient is aware that many Americans believe a recent shooting was a coordinated assassination attempt, not the act of a lone shooter. The speaker cites the shooter's age, proximity to the target with an AR-15, drone surveillance, and being spotted with a rangefinder as reasons for suspicion. The speaker, identifying himself as a former Navy SEAL sniper, notes the obvious sniper position from a water tower. He asks if the recipient is surprised that Americans suspect more to the story, given attempts to bankrupt and imprison the target, and depictions of him as Hitler. The speaker asks if the recipient's team entered and investigated the suspect's home prior to the shooting, to which the recipient says they participated in securing it and provided bomb assets. The speaker then asks if any agents reported anything "fishy" at the home, such as silverware or trash, or if it was extremely clean like a medical lab. The recipient states he was not given those details. The speaker concludes that this is what he is hearing and finds it "interesting."

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The speaker discusses the JFK assassination and presents a series of videos as evidence. They argue that JFK was not assassinated on November 22, 1963, but rather an escape plan was executed. They point to the chaos and confusion at the scene, the possibility of a US military operation, and the lack of blood and reaction from Jackie Kennedy as evidence. The speaker also mentions the presence of a small throat wound and a frontal head wound. They suggest that the Zapruder film was edited to hide the truth. The speaker concludes by mentioning the possibility of a prearranged cadaver at Parkland Hospital.

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There is doubt that the newly released JFK files contain any revelatory information. The speaker believes there was not a single gunman. The magic bullet theory is dismissed as impossible. The speaker states that everybody heard a shot from the grassy knoll. It is unlikely the full truth will ever be known because this was the final news dump. The speaker doubts the CIA will ever admit involvement, even though a lot of people wanted them to be involved.

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Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss how acts of violence are scrutinized differently and question the narratives around notable events. They reference the shooting at Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania, noting it as an expensive topic and implying oddities in coverage. They mention the shooting of Thomas Crooks, criticizing the defense setup for Trump and contrasting it with the shooter’s protections, suggesting a “Jack Ruby figure” behind the scenes who was responsible for eliminating the assassin after the act. They say the person in charge of post-assassination security for Trump “popped the assassin,” yet isn’t being prosecuted, and express shock at this discrepancy. Speaker 1 identifies the person behind Trump as a “Jack Ruby figure” and notes that news agencies were present at an otherwise irrelevant Butler rally. They describe a strange, behind-the-scenes detail: a man named Joseph Fusca sat behind Trump. Fusca is associated with the QAnon crowd and rumors that JFK Jr. is waiting to return to save the world; they dismiss these claims as a “total crock.” Despite this, Fusca is described as being present at the rally, and there is curiosity about who he is. The speaker notes that, at the moment Trump is shot, Fusca does not react, and there are two pieces of footage referenced but not shown here. Speaker 0 remarks that Fusca is someone they have seen in photographs before and had been discussed previously. They describe having followed deep rabbit holes to uncover such figures and identities. The conversation broadens to the idea of entering a broader, hidden ecosystem of information, comparing the experience to encountering Gobekli Tepe in the sense that once you go down these rabbit holes, you discover a vast, previously unknown landscape. They also connect these exploration moments to broader questions about trust, recalling Kennedy’s assassination and mentioning Building 7 in conversation with Ron Joss and others in their circle, suggesting a pattern of distrust toward established narratives. The speakers describe a process of increasingly questioning conventional explanations as they pursue these threads.

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The speaker discusses the Zapruder film, an amateur film capturing the Kennedy assassination. Abraham Zapruder, a Dallas dress manufacturer, filmed the motorcade in Dealey Plaza. The speaker warns viewers about the graphic nature of the footage, calling it the "execution of President Kennedy." The film shows the motorcade entering Dealey Plaza. As the car passes a sign, Kennedy is shot, followed by Governor Connolly. The speaker points out the backward motion of Kennedy's head upon impact. The Warren Commission concluded that Lee Harvey Oswald, acting alone, fired all shots from behind. However, the speaker claims the backward head movement suggests a shot from the front. The speaker states that the film shows Kennedy being hit from the front.

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The speaker claims the Bilderberg Group ordered John F. Kennedy's execution via its policy committee in The Hague and Geneva. The speaker alleges that agents of a secret government carried out the execution in Dallas. William Greer, the driver, supposedly administered the "coup de grace," shooting Kennedy point-blank in the head with an assassination pistol. The speaker states this can be seen in the Zapruder film. The speaker claims the film has been shown on television, but always zoomed in on Kennedy to exclude the driver. The speaker further claims the Warren Commission never saw the Zapruder film.

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"The story they fed you doesn't add up. They had you staring at the wrong roof while the real operation was going down somewhere else. And just like every deep state hit in history, they wrapped it all up in with a patsy. 'This is twenty minutes before the shot, ladies and gentlemen. Look. There it is.' 'why do we have all these people crawling around on the roofs of OOVU that day.' 'I've gotta be honest with my audience. This is the easiest roof I've ever seen in my life.' 'I've seen almost no cameras. No cameras on campus.' 'Epstein was a key player in a multi decade blackmail operation against the most powerful people on the planet.' 'The Charlie's security team, we've known for many, many years. They are like brothers with Charlie.' 'Not one iota of evidence that that's true.'"

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The speaker watched a slowed-down version of the Zapruder tape showing Kennedy's assassination. In this version, the driver shot Kennedy, unlike the familiar one where he didn't react. The speaker was shown the original tape and a doctored one seen in the media, with a tree anomaly pointed out. The person showing the tapes emphasized that things are not always what they seem.

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After a thorough investigation into the John F. Kennedy assassination, the initial congressional hearing was flawed regarding the single bullet theory. I believe there were two shooters. Hopefully, we can gain access to the SCIF before the files are released to the public to find more information.

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The speaker presents audio evidence of two shooters targeting Trump and the crowd, contradicting the lone gunman theory. They analyze the sound of shots from different weapons and locations, concluding that the shots were aimed at Trump. The speaker fears for their safety but believes the operation was botched. The analysis suggests multiple shooters were involved, challenging the official narrative.

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If you're new to this whole just waking up to how much Israel controls our government thing, you're thinking to yourself, Ryan, Israel would never assassinate JFK, not a US president. Right? They're our greatest ally. And then I would tell you, well, have you ever listened to a gentleman by the name of William Cooper? He was also assassinated by Israel. This gentleman wrote a book called Behold a Pale Horse. You guys have probably seen that the pope just received a pale horse. Everybody's talking about a pale horse, but you might have missed this clip from William Cooper. He was the one who the first one to actually get the original footage from a CIA whistleblower that actually showed who shot Kennedy and how they shot Kennedy. The clips that we are seeing from the media always specifically started at a specific point, and part of the frame was cropped out. But it wasn't till William Cooper released this video that we really started to ask a lot of questions. Check this out. Said that the assassin was the driver in the car in which he was riding in Dallas on that day, and it was plainly visible in a film with help from the public. Now you brought that film with you. Let's take a look at that if we can. Here's the film. Go ahead and narrate this for us, Will. Well, it took me sixteen years to find this film because it has really been withheld, and what you're seeing here is the motorcade on Elm Street passing in front of the Book Depository Building. Kennedy has been shot in the throat, and Jacqueline is pulling him toward her trying to comfort him, and she's in shock. At this time, you see the driver turn around with a pistol in his left hand firing over his right shoulder and shoots the president directly in the head. You need a repeat of it. Yeah. The weapon watch the driver. His name is William Greer. He was, in fact, a secret service agent. The weapon is a an electrically operated gas powered assassination pistol built built especially for the Central Intelligence Agency. You don't see any puff of smoke any from That's correct. Because you think is a pistol there in the right hand corner, lower right hand corner. It is a say? Well, it's an it's an air operated pistol. It's pneumatic. And it actually fired an exploding pellet, which injected shellfish toxin into the president's brain so that if the actual explosion of the pellet itself did not kill him, the toxin would. Now did you read all of this Yes. In in the documents? Yes. And that's why, his brain was switched for another brain in transit between Parkland, Hospital in Dallas and Bethesda Naval Hospital in Washington DC. Wait. Wait. Wait. What type of weapon was used to assassinate JFK? And that was in what? Sixty three ish time frame? No way our intelligence agencies have those type of weapons that could have been used to assassinate Charlie Kirk, could they? Maybe we should just listen to Jack Posobic and all those goons that are carrying water for this administration. Time will tell.

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Speaker, a marine scout sniper who 'did that for five years,' says 'the FBI lies to us' and urges to start with 'no preconceived notion.' He defines four camera angles: 'This is camera angle one,' 'This is camera angle two,' 'This is camera angle three,' and 'Cam four is here.' He notes 'Bullet, Charlie' and 'This is an exit wound in the neck and the entry wound doesn't cause that immediately.' The earpiece is described: 'the earpiece flying off' and 'the cord is running down through the neck... pulls the collar up.' He mentions a 'temporary cavity' and a supposed laser: 'a laser strikes the lens' and 'the dot travels up... Charlie's hit.' He estimates calibers: 'I assumed... a 38' and 'nine mil' and says 'they claim rifle.' He concludes: 'FBI is lying. It's quite literally not possible for the shooter to have been on the roof that they claim.'

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Speaker 0 introduces the topic of Israel allegedly having influence over the US government and mentions that Israel assassinated JFK, pointing to William Cooper as the source who was also assassinated by Israel. Speaker 0 references Cooper’s book Behold a Pale Horse and notes that Cooper was the first to obtain original footage from a CIA whistleblower showing who shot Kennedy and how they shot Kennedy. He says the media’s clips started at a cropped frame, and that Cooper’s release prompted further questions. Speaker 1 explains that the assassin was the driver in the car with Kennedy, visible in a film with public help. He brings the film, saying it shows the motorcade on Elm Street in front of the Book Depository Building, Kennedy having been shot in the throat, Jacqueline pulling Kennedy toward him in shock, and the driver turning around with a pistol in his left hand, firing over his right shoulder and shooting the president in the head. Speaker 2 asks for a repeat and then the duo watches the film. Speaker 1 identifies the driver as William Greer, noting he was a secret service agent. He describes the weapon as an electrically operated gas-powered assassination pistol built especially for the Central Intelligence Agency, asserting there is no puff of smoke. Speaker 2 questions whether the weapon is indeed a pistol in the lower right corner of the frame. Speaker 1 confirms it is an air-operated pistol (pneumatic) and claims it fired an exploding pellet that injected shellfish toxin into the president’s brain, so that if the pellet’s explosion did not kill him, the toxin would. He states that he read all of this in the documents. Speaker 0 asks what type of weapon was used to assassinate JFK and references the 1963 time frame, saying that intelligence agencies would have such weapons. He then questions whether intelligence agencies could have used such weapons to assassinate Charlie Kirk. He suggests listening to Jack Posobiec and others who are “carrying water for this administration,” implying time will tell.

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Rob was asked about his viral comments on the Piers Morgan show and the ongoing discussion around Charlie Kirk’s assassination. He says from the outset he smelled a rat and didn’t buy the official narrative being spun. He notes that when he first heard Kirk was shot and saw the video, an exit wound coming out of the neck and the movement of the shirt suggested an impact nearby, which didn’t fit what he’d expect from his experience with ballistics. Rob describes the sequence: the FBI announces they’ve got the shooter, a man on the roof “took it apart,” put a scope on, fired a cold bore shot, then jumped to a roof, wrapped it up, and sent texts that didn’t sound like a 22-year-old. He says he’s typically drawn to the simplest explanation, but asking questions leads to being torn down. He emphasizes he never claimed Israel was responsible, but says asking questions is met with accusations of antisemitism. He raises questions about security procedures after Kirk was down, asking what happened to the lapel mic, the SIM card, and who took the camera behind him, and whether crime-scene contamination occurred, whether the area was repaved or rebuilt, and whether the gravesite exists and how the stadium event was organized so quickly. Rob recounts how, when he asks questions, he’s labeled antisemitic or a conspiracy theorist, even though he says he’s “killed a bunch of people for the country” and wants to know why a great American was killed in front of everyone. He notes the FBI’s inconsistent statements, such as claiming the weapon was a 30-06 rifle, showing a gun image, and various excuses like a ricochet off body armor followed by later claims that there was no body armor, then again something else. He questions what would happen to a neck with a 30-06, suggests the autopsy report should be released, and asks why the chair and desk were moved, implying potential forensic implications. Speaker 1 (Rob) emphasizes uncertainty: he wasn’t there, so he can’t say for certain, but there are questions about whether a shot was taken or if a shaped charge or other device could have been involved. He asks where the gun, the bullets, and the ballistic evidence are, and why there isn’t clear video showing the moment the shot was fired. He notes that much of the official footage is “potato footage” from many cameras, while the supposed key video isn’t released. Towards the end, the host comments on common accusations and mislabeling when challenging the official narrative. Rob thanks the host, and they acknowledge continuing discussions, with Rob offering to provide “solid conspiracies.” They close with mutual well-wishes and a light joke about conspiracies.

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- I recognized an individual and 'have taken down the cameras minute four after Charlie was shot? The back camera of all the ones when you take the front camera.' - 'I've never seen that. He's never been behind me at an event. He's never been lingering around me at an event.' - I asked about 'his presence behind Charlie' and 'the mysterious phone call ... minute three after Charlie was assassinated.' - He told me explicitly that 'they were trying something new that day. Like, it was something new. Charlie's super ambitious. And on the AV thing, they were trying something new, and they wanted to be able to feed it back instantly to Arizona.' - 'None of it makes sense to me because these events are typically livestreamed. But again, something new. Okay?'

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"What you're watching here, you're gonna watch the reaction." "Something is hitting that shirt before it goes through his neck." "There could easily be a white vest under it." "Or what I just realized here is you guys have black letters on there." "That round could have very possibly touched one of those black letters." "The shirt looks like after the fact, but he did even have this mic on here." "There is no way to get that angle of that shot." "the vest goes through this, hits something inside, ricochets back out, comes out the top." "it most likely was a long rifle." "I'm still not convinced of the trans shooter." "There have been lies that the FBI has told us." "Kyle's Kyle does this stuff for a living." "Drop some comments below."

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Discussion centers on claims about the Charlie Kirk assassination, including a side shot. The presenter says "there's now a shooter on the roof" and an eyewitness states the shooter was "wearing tactical gear" and described "the exact type of weapon... a two two three round." A bystander video shows "somebody on the roof" and the eyewitness asserts the shooter was "highly trained, like a highly trained assassin" and that the footage's metadata "begins at 12:22 and goes into 12/23, the very minute that Charlie gets shot." The speaker adds the shooter "looked like a foreign agent" and "not jeans." Another claim: "the FBI's official story is false" with video of an "entry and exit wound," though another participant says "it's not blood splatter. That's literally his necklace getting snapped off and flying over the back of his neck." The discussion concludes with "Cash should resign."

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"This is a CIA Stinger 22 magnum pin gun inside a camera, and that telephoto lens has a suppressor silencer. And it's literally the smoking gun." "They are into espionage, and they do that kind of thing just like The United States. Google it." "Seventeen seconds earlier, he was using the viewfinder, faking it to take pictures." "The bullet's traveling faster than the sun." "The shooter behind Charlie with the camera gun is scouting the area to see Charlie's mannerism and what angle to shoot the bullet." "The backpack with the dangling straps, but that doesn't matter because he tries to hide all that in a black Chrysler minivan Pacifica with stock rims." "The signal guy; puts the radio to his mouth and gets the team working." "There were two shooters: one with a silencer and one with a big bang to avoid any conspiracy." "Charlie had two wounds: one from the front, and another from his right into the lower part of the skull." "UVU Hall Of Flags." "The shooter on the roof had the silencer; the one behind Charlie with the camera gun is scouting." "Turning Point stated that when they go live, this they didn't go live. They always have four k cameras. On this day, they only had three." "greatest1command.com" "Yl Relevance."

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Remember John and Jackie Kennedy. That head movement you see in the Zapruder film was caused by a bullet. It looks like it's coming from up here. But Oswald's gun went off, echoing through Dealey Plaza. The echo traveled by the limo, up to the grassy knoll, hitting leaves and causing dust. 56 witnesses testified it was a gunshot because Kennedy's head immediately went over. The reason his head went over is because the echo went by the motorcade on the left, and he went, what was that? I heard on the news there was an echo, and Kennedy was asking Jackie what it was.
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