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One speaker recounts that he did not like Bibi Netanyahu, describing Netanyahu as a destructive force and saying he was appalled by what was happening in Gaza, and that Netanyahu was using the United States to prosecute wars for the benefit of his country, which he called shameful and embarrassing and bad for the United States, a view he resented. He also notes that he didn’t hate Netanyahu. After that speech, there was a sharp backlash against Charlie Kirk and, to a lesser extent, the speaker, with Kirk having about $100 million in donors and being heavily dependent on them because his project was nonprofit. They went after him and tormented him, while a small, very intense group offended by the speech tormented Charlie Kirk until the day he died.

Charlie Kirk's interview with Megyn Kelly is highlighted, showing him fed up with attacks. 'However, Megan, you're hitting on something very potent and important.' He continues, 'I don't wanna judge an entire group because there's been many people in the Paris World that have been sweet, kind, nuanced, Charlie.' 'I love Israel. I want Israel to win.' But he adds, 'But my moral character is now being put into question, Megan.' He says attacks come from 'the people that are attacking me are in a hyperparanoid state because they're at war.' He invites viewers: 'If you too, just like Charlie, are starting to wake up and notice and you really wanna understand this animal that is Israel, swing over to Ian Carroll's YouTube channel and check out the documentary we just pre produced called creating Israel.' 'It's the perfect icebreaker,' and asks, 'Why is that America? Keep asking those questions.'

Speaker 1 questions the letter's truth; Speaker 2 confirms, "Yeah. I mean, it's it's real." They reference Nick Fuentes claiming Israel killed Charlie and mention "the call, like, Israel called him and told him to to to." Speaker 2 summarizes Charlie's Israel stance as nuanced: "he wanted people who controlled The Holy Land to be civilized people" and "didn't want it to be in the hands of Islam," preferring "a civilized group ... friendly to the West" over hostile Muslim nations. He was frustrated at being unable to criticize Israel without being labeled an anti Semitic, and had vehement disagreements about how the war was prosecuted and messaged; he wanted it to be over and saw more freedom to criticize America than Israel. "Even Tucker Carlson" noted Charlie Kirk's anti Semitic labeling; "BB's comments" were odd; he hosted critics like Dave Smith and recognized that "young people were much more Israeli skeptic," arguing that silencing debate would be a "huge disservice to the conservative movement."

They say Charlie Kirk was offered an infusion of $150,000,000 by Israel to shield for Israel harder; Turning Point USA has a budget of $140,000,000. Israel allegedly aimed to make Kirk 'more pro Israel' and back regime change in Iran and 'ethnic cleansing and genocide in Gaza.' Kirk refused the money. Netanyahu then invited him to Jerusalem for a 'reeducation tour' and the Holocaust museum—the burned babies, the beheaded babies; he refused that as well. They offered to bribe him and reeducate him, and he refused both. Two, Bill Ackman hosted this event at his house in the Hamptons where, according to supporters, pro-Israel mouthpieces berated and screamed at him for not supporting Israel enough; Kirk's friends say he felt scared and possibly blackmailed. Well, he's dead now, so he can't tell us what really went down; all we know is the alleged feelings of those present, not his perspective.

Speaker rejects the claim that 'Israel was behind Charlie Kirk's assassination,' calling it 'ridiculous' and noting Kirk 'was supported by pro Israel Jewish patrons until the day that he died' while he 'defended the administration's cover up of the Epstein files' and 'defended the administration's bombing of Iran.' He says Kirk remained in support for Israel. He says Netanyahu offered money, which Kirk refused, and claims Bill Ackman hosted an event with 'Israeli mouthpieces' Seth Dillon and Josh Hammer; Kirk reportedly refused a trip to Israel. When the FBI could not locate the alleged gunman, Ackman offered a '$1,000,000 reward for information leading to the arrest of Charlie Kirk's assassin,' to be paid to 'the alleged killer's father' Tyler Robinson, 'a Mormon father' who allegedly turned in his gay son dating a tranny who killed Charlie Kirk. He calls this 'a bit suspicious' and says it requires careful scrutiny.

Netanyahu immediately weighed in with prayers about Charlie Kirk just minutes after he was killed. It was eerie. His body was still warm, and Netanyahu was beginning to claim Charlie Kirk's legacy. "Israel requires American Christian, mostly conservative men to fight the war of Armageddon that Netanyahu wants against Iran." Kirk, a conservative asset, was moving away from Netanyahu and privately despised him under Zionist donor pressure. The Grey Zone exposed a secret Hamptons influencer summit. Candace Owens later revealed more. Netanyahu released a video: "I did not kill Charlie Kirk. I never accused him of killing Charlie Kirk." The talk covers DEI funding via the Tikva Fund and a push to buy TikTok to suppress Palestine content, led by Larry Ellison’s network. Antifa designated as a terrorist organization; media consolidation and regional tensions involving Turkey, Syria, Qatar; Egypt’s red line on Gaza, Rafah.

I was shocked and sickened by the ghoulish and really repulsive reaction of the prime minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, to Charlie's death, basically made it all about him and his country, redirecting the grief toward support for his projects. Charlie Kirk did not hate Jews. "Charlie didn't hate Jews. He loved Jews." He did not like Bibi Netanyahu, and he felt that B. Netanyahu was a very destructive force; "he was above all resentful that he believed Netanyahu was using The United States to prosecute his wars for the benefit of his country, and that it was shameful and embarrassing and bad for The United States, and he resented it." After that speech, there was an intense attack on Charlie; "He had $100,000,000 worth of donors." Two days before he died, he lost a $2,000,000 donation because he had publicly pledged to bring me to the next Turning Point conference in December. The American Jewish Committee called Charlie Kirk an anti Semite and "dangerous." He was not an anti Semite. He was the opposite, and he was a great lover of people and a purveyor of peace. Seth Dillon of the Babylon Bee was out there demanding that Charlie Kirk take me off the roster, pull me off stage, because I had said things that BB didn't like or that he didn't like or whatever. This is a trend.

The speaker addresses claims that Israel is involved in Charlie Kirk's death and reviews the FBI's official narrative that "it was Tyler Robinson, this 22 year old leftist with a transgender boyfriend." He discusses the circumstantial case that "Israel played some role" but admits "we don't really have the information we need" and "we can't trust the FBI." He notes "There have been some tall claims ... not fully substantiated by evidence" and points to Max Blumenthal as "the source of this idea," citing "the article with unnamed sources, anonymous sources that create this narrative that Charlie Kirk was on the verge of flipping on Israel and is effectively implying that the donors wanted him dead." He covers the Bill Ackman meeting, saying "Charlie Kirk walked away from this meeting ... feeling blackmailed, feeling afraid," yet adds "we now have receipts and testimony and names about that meeting" showing "Charlie Kirk organized the event and it was fine." "I don't trust Max Blumenthal... This guy's a left wing Jew." "And you know who's implicated in this killing? The left."

- "Charlie Kirk is the pro Zionist guy." - "What if they were listening in to him and he was in communications with people saying, hey. I think I'm gonna go this direction and they knew his intentions or saw this pattern." - "Here's this pro Zionist guy with this incredibly powerful platform that they built, by the way, that Charlie has, thanks to them." - "So if he's gonna take what they gave him and turn it against them, that could literally destroy Israel because the youth is people they're most concerned about." - "We can't let him turn." - "Israel was never my top suspect until, you know, I've spent twenty four hours thinking about it, I'm like, it's not unreasonable. It's not even out of the question in terms of would Israel do this." - "it's in their wheelhouse."

"They said come to Israel, meet with me. Charlie Kirk said no. Now he's dead." "Bill Ackman is a Wall Street Jewish billionaire." "after October 7, Bill Ackman shifted to the right. He put a million dollars behind Trump and became very active in Republican politics even though he's a lifelong Democrat." "When the FBI could not locate the alleged gunman on Wednesday, do you know who stepped up and offered a $1,000,000 reward for information leading to the arrest of Charlie Kirk's assassin? Bill Ackman." "the $1,000,000 will be paid out to the alleged killer's father." "Tyler Robinson was allegedly turned into law enforcement by his father." "I see a bit of a conflict of interest there." "That needs to be investigated."

Speaker argues Charlie Kirk’s “financial stake in the future of the company” and leadership of the faith division would matter, noting that if Charlie “decided one day to become Catholic” it would have financial implications. He says, “I never had a conversation that that Charlie was in the process of converting,” but claims “Rob in particular knew for an absolute fact that Charlie was done with Israel bullying him.” He presents alleged proof via a group chat two days before Kirk’s assassination, with nine people including Charlie and Rob McCoy; seven names withheld. In the chat, Charlie writes: “just lost another huge Jewish donor. 2,000,000 a year because we won't cancel Tucker.” “I cannot and will not be bullied like this.” “Leaving me no choice but to leave the pro Israel cause.” A donor writes: “please do not invite Candace.” Forty eight hours before Charles was assassinated. He says Charlie “did not back down” in the Hamptons meeting or the text thread, and suggests donors may be driving the hosts, asking why Carlson and Kelly haven’t condemned them, calling it suspicious and alleging donors might be running them to “eulogize Charlie” who “never once flinched” from the Israeli cause.

After his September 12 report on pressure from pro-Israel forces and Netanyahu’s network, a tumultuous August Hamptons meeting convened by Bill Ackman allegedly pressured Charlie Kirk to adopt a pro-Israel line. Kirk was summoned with an array of young conservative influencers to set a pro-Israel tone and was hammered for allowing critics like Megan Kelly, Tucker Carlson, and Dave Smith to appear at events. Ackman threatened funding and travel to Israel; Kirk refused both. Netanyahu later disclosed a letter, and Beebe said Kirk was offered assistance. A staged intervention by Ackman occurred as Kirk’s views shifted; he denied accepting money or traveling. Tucker Carlson questioned Ackman’s money on stage, and Kirk faced intense pressure with texts and threats. Seth Dillon and others present did not go on record; calls for Turning Point USA to release audio of Kirk’s remarks.

Speaker 0 alleges that in the Hamptons there were multiple events and 'what was staged intervention was staged by Bill Ackman,' because 'Charlie’s thoughts about Israel were a no no,' and that he was 'surrounded by his friends.' Ackman was 'very upset' and threats were made; he would welcome Ackman to dispute the narrative, with 'receipts I can show you' promised but not provided. 'BB Netanyahu was called and Charlie was invited to Israel' as part of pressure; Charlie was offered 'a ton of money' and declined, with references to a 'reeducation camp' and Auschwitz. Seth Dillon is mentioned; the speaker texted him for comment, but Dillon did not respond, and others would not go on record. Charlie was praying the rosary and considering Judeo-Christian identity.

Speaker asserts: "No one... outside of my husband and Erica Kirk has the power to shut me up right now. That's it. Two people." She says appeals must go to them, calling out frantic donors' attempts to politicize the situation because "they know I'm telling the truth," including "Frantic calls from Seth Dillon." She claims "Charlie was under immense pressure, and he was face facing financial threats" over his stance on Israel and whom he hosted for America Fest (Dave Smith, Tucker Carlson). "I looked you in your face and I said no to your money." She warns, "Don't push me, or I will name more names. What happens in the Hamptons is not going to stay in the Hamptons." Attendees say Charlie was "pressed." On day one, he argued it was wrong he couldn't publicly criticize Israel; a tweet about Netanyahu resigning prompted Seth Dillon to say "that would be antisemitic." "Josh Hammer" was upset, "part of the beehive" swarming him. She offers her platform to dispute, demanding answers and denouncing "misrepresentation by Beebe" and his echo in America, naming "Josh Hammer" and "Seth Dono." She mentions "Bill Ackman" and a "phone call" about Israel.

The speaker says there is a financial stake in the company tied to Charlie Kirk’s leadership of the faith division and notes concern if Charlie ever became Catholic, though conversion was not discussed. Rob McCoy allegedly knew Charlie was done with Israel bullying. He cites a group chat two days before Kirk’s assassination, with Charlie and Rob McCoy; he says he might release a name every day this week. In the chat, Charlie writes, "just lost another huge Jewish donor. 2,000,000 a year because we won't cancel Tucker. I'm thinking of inviting Candace." A second comment adds, "Jewish donors play into all of the stereotypes. I cannot and will not be bullied like this. Leaving me no choice but to leave the pro Israel cause." The speaker notes it was "forty eight hours before Charles was assassinated" and that Charlie was "very clear and he did not back down" in Hamptons meeting or thread. He questions why others haven’t vindicated these claims and suggests donor pressure may be shaping coverage toward eulogizing Charlie as never flinching in support of the Israeli cause.

Charlie Kirk faced mounting pressure about Israel debates. "I'm an American citizen. Yes. I want Israel to win. Yes. I'm a Christian." He says "the sum of the mess" and that "my moral character is now being put into question" while insisting "I love Israel. I want Israel to win." He recalls "thousands of tweets" and a pattern "similar to what my grandparents saw in nineteen thirties Germany online?" as well as threats to "pull out money" and "nasty text messages." The discussion centered on Tucker Carlson and why Charlie would allow voices like "Dave Smith, who by the way is Jewish" on stage. Beebe Netanyahu allegedly staged "an intervention" by "Bill Ackman" with "threats" after which Charlie "denied that funding" and was invited to Israel, an invitation Charlie "said no to Bebe." "Just take the last step, Charlie." Charlie was praying the rosary. Charlie was going to mass.

Speaker alleges that “within forty eight hours before Charlie passed away, his top Jewish donors were pulling funding from him, demanding that Charlie take their name off of the building that they had donated to Turning Point. And then once Charlie was killed, they said, never mind, put it back on the building.” He says Charlie had “alluded to a tremendous loss of money coming in” and that “more people are going to come out with information. This is all inevitable.” The speaker notes Beebe's PR blitz: “Beebe recently was on a PR blitz despite the fact that he was fighting this ninety six thousand front war because Israel didn't do nothing,” listing podcasts and asking, “Anybody find it weird you didn't do Charlie Kirk show?” Tomey is cited: “Charlie was implied that Charlie was penning love letters to him in May. I just love you so much.” He calls a “hostile takeover” and says after Charlie's death, supporters claim “the energy is Charlie died for Israel,” which is “literally untrue, and we're not going to allow it.” Okay? It's just not true.

Charlie Kirk's perspective on Israel was not starting to shift. It had shifted entirely. Israel knew that. Turning Point USA knew that because Charlie was explicit. He wrote of his deep love for Israel. About forty eight hours before Charlie Kirk died, Charlie informed people at Turning Point, as well as Jewish donors and a rabbi that he had no choice but to abandon the pro Israel cause outright. Charlie was done. He said it explicitly that he refused to be bullied anymore by the Jewish donors. Did he express that? Did he also express that he wanted to bring me, Candace Owens, back because he was standing up for himself? And then did he, just forty eight hours later, conveniently catch a bullet to the throat before our on stage reunion could happen?

He was dependent on donors, and a small, intense group tormented Charlie Kirk until the day he died. Two days before his death, he lost a $2,000,000 donation after publicly pledging to bring me to the next Turning Point conference in December. A flyer announced I would speak, and he texted he was taking heat. The American Jewish Committee called in a statement Charlie Kirk an antisemite and, quote, dangerous. Charlie Kirk, an antisemite. Yeah. He was not an antisemite. He was the opposite, and he was not dangerous. He was a great lover of people and a purveyor of peace. He was deeply offended by that and expressed some feelings on Megyn Kelly show and elsewhere. Seth Dillon of Babylon Bee pressured Charlie Kirk to pull me off stage because BB didn't like what I said, shocking that someone whose persona is about free speech.

Denied, and what Beebe didn't include there, he declined to go to Israel for, I would I would describe this as, like, you know, reeducation camp. "We just need you to come out to Auschwitz and take a picture... We just need you to go to Israel, and we can make this better. Charlie said no to Bebe." Bill Ackman says there were conversations that took place, and they are solid; "our sources and what we have, it's solid." He notes "another person that was there, and I am not surprised this person was there." The discussion shifts to Seth Dillon: "If you've been listening to my show, Seth Dillon." He describes planning to "out to Seth Dillon" and sending a last-night message about a Hamptons meeting; Dillon "normally very quick with a response" but "has not yet been able to respond." He says, "I am not someone who normally publicizes text messages." He mentions "my friend was shot in the neck" and demands answers, ending with a tweet quote about Charlie Kirk: "I feel incredibly privileged to have spent a day and shared a meal with Charlie Kirk this summer. He was a giant of a man."

At the Hamptons event, the speaker says "essentially what was staged intervention was staged by Bill Ackman" because "Charlie’s thoughts, Charlie's rational thoughts about Israel were a no no," and Charlie was "surrounded by his friends, quote unquote friends." "Bill Ackman was very upset and threats were made." "I have receipts I can show you," but Ackman "did not provide the receipts" and the speaker says, "This is not how it went down." "BB Netanyahu was called and Charlie was invited to Israel" in an "under duress situation." There were talks of "a ton of money" and Charlie "denied that funding"; references to a "reeducation camp" and "Auschwitz" or the "Holocaust Museum" for a photo. The speaker asks Seth Dillon for comment; texts show attempts to get a response. Charlie was "praying the rosary" and "going to mass."

The speaker condemns Ian Carroll for making videos that claim Israel is behind conspiracies about Red Lobster, Applebee's, and Burger King, and for a live stream asking, “Where are you Nick? … Why are you with them?” He asks where the evidence is and notes the tendency to attribute almost every event to Israel, stating, “the heuristic seems to be Israel is behind literally everything,” past and future, which he calls ridiculous. He points to a September 7 tweet where Carroll said Charlie Kirk is “working for the Jews that killed Jesus,” and contrasts it with Carroll’s certainty on September 11 that Israel killed him to silence him, questioning what changed in those four days and suggesting Carroll may have ESP or telepathy. He accuses Carroll of grifting, intellectual laziness, and dishonesty, and refuses to be pulled into blaming Israel for killing the number one Israel defender in America. The speaker asserts personal history and credibility, saying, “I’ve been over here. I was at Charlottesville” in 2017, and that in 2019 he led the Gruyper war against Charlie Kirk, labeling Kirk as an “Israel shill.” He claims that from Turning Point’s founding in 2012 to today, the organization has been “owned by Israel and served Israel.” He recounts a June text in which Charlie Kirk told Dinesh D’Souza, “Nick Fuentes is vermin,” and notes the ongoing fight against him for six years, including Kirk’s August statement calling him “anti Semitic garbage” and his refusal to debate. The speaker describes Charlie Kirk’s inner circle and media connections: Kirk’s right-hand man Andrew Colvin comes from Salem Media, a Christian Zionist outlet aligned with Israel, with Melissa Strait having connections to Salem and Prager University and IDF unit 12082. He notes Colvin led a “struggle session about Israel” after a Turning Point SAS conference in July. He claims that when Israel bombed Qatar in contravention of Trump’s foreign policy, Kirk invited Ben Shapiro to present Israel’s position, while Kirk acted as moderator, and on the day Kirk “was shot,” he prepared to defend Israel with his rabbi at Provo as he drafted a book on the Jewish Sabbath. The speaker emphasizes that the person accused of fighting Israel was “the guy that was murdered,” and expresses pity for those who would believe that. He asserts, “I’m right here where I’ve always been, following the facts, following the money, looking at the information,” claiming to be light years ahead of Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson, and rejecting the idea that their ideology is about Netanyahu or Israel’s foreign policy, concluding, “No, sorry. Absolutely not. That’s totally ridiculous.”