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Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 weave a dual-themed argument that identifies Rome with Edom and portrays a stark, apocalyptic conflict between Israel and the nations, particularly Christianity. They claim that the Romans identified with Edom are the evil kingdom in the Talmud and that Edom’s deviousness must end. They insist that “the Romans who are identified with Edom… whenever we see evil kingdom in the Talmud is always Rome,” and they repeatedly connect Edom to Amalek as “the grandson of Asav of Edom.” They state that Edom, Rome, and Amalek are essentially the same core force and that this force will be destroyed, with its memory removed from existence at the end of time. They argue that Israel holds a unique, exclusive position: “everything in creation from beginning to end is all about Israel. And it’s all for Israel. We have the Torah which was given to us from heaven and it will be in our hands for eternity.” They declare that “that’s only us” and that “the nations” are not in this plan. God, they assert, “put his name in us” and “revealed himself to the world through us,” calling Israel God’s firstborn son. They claim Christianity and Israel can never coexist, because they are opposites: “There can never be two on top. Only one.” They illustrate this with hand motions, describing one as up and one as down, and compare Catholic rhetoric as a mirror opposite to their own. Speaker 1 adds that the end-time plan involves the destruction of Edom and the false messiah, followed by the appearance of the true messiah, with Messiah ben David gathering the exiles and a third temple being built only after Edom’s fall and the false messiah’s exposure. They connect the end of Edom to the rise of Israel and to Jerusalem being built “properly.” They identify Satan as the archangel for Edom and describe Israel as rising “when Edom and the false messiah” are defeated. There is extensive apocalyptic projection: the world will turn against Israel via the Gog and Magog framework; all 70 nations will oppose Israel; Amalek and Ishmael are fused into broader conflicts between Ishmael, Edom, Christians, and Muslims. They describe Edom’s destruction as the destruction of Western civilization—Europe and the United States—as precursors to a messianic age. They claim that “the whole world’s destruction” will occur, with wars invoked by the “two-part plan” to remove idols and to force a convergence of Jewish law with end-time prophecy. Speaker 3 contributes historical-war context, noting that wars have historically led to the collapse of nations, and that World War II is cited in their framework as part of a longer arc toward a third world war that begins with Halta Deguila (redemption) and becomes the redemption when the Edomites are destroyed. They predict that major future wars will pit Ishmael against Edom and Muslims against Christians, and they recount how the Midrash portrays events culminating in Edom’s destruction before Mashiach’s arrival. Overall, the dialogue centers on a binary cosmic struggle: Israel’s divine exclusivity versus Edom’s (Rome’s) doom, with the end-times script predicting universal opposition to Israel, the downfall of Western powers, and the eventual assembling of a messianic order after the fall of the false messiah.

Command to wipe out from among all the descendants of Esauv, descendants of Amalek, male and female, young and old. And that is why Amalek is so terrible, and it has to be totally uprooted. Therefore, Therefore, God tells us we should erase their memory, and we should eradicate them from the face of the earth. Who is Amalek? Amalek comes from Asav. Asav was a brother to Jacob. Esav became Edoine, which is a nation. Edoine became Rome. Instead of it being Rome, it became Christianity. Christianity, of course, ultimately became Western civilization. The throne of God is incomplete until we destroy Amalek. The audacity, the chutzpah to destroy Amalek and to cut off the offsprings of the nation of Amalek. I have the high privilege and distinct honor of presenting to you the prime minister of Israel, his excellency Benjamin Netanyahu.

Israel is America's only true friend in the Middle East and should be supported. The speaker believes that God has a special covenant with Israel and that America should defend it against Iran. They emphasize that God has chosen Jerusalem as his dwelling place and that when the messiah comes, he will establish peace in the city. The speaker warns that if America stops supporting Israel, God will stop blessing the United States.

It's the end of days. You're gonna need the iron of which represents which is the West, Europe, and The Americas to get intermixed with Ishmael, which is basically Arabs and and Muslims. How in the world was this ever gonna happen if not for this refugee crisis? This is a fulfillment of, you know, the and the prophecies. France is completely barbecued. England is next. Now half of Europe is completely half dead. Now look what's going on in America. So, you know, now in a country near you. As a nation, they'll cease to exist, even as individuals. In modern terminology, they call it cultural genocide. They'll be annihilated.

Speaker 0: Aesop, who became Edom, who became the Roman Empire, which metamorphosed into the Christian Empire, which became Christian civilization, which is now represented by The United States Of America, will suffer a crushing, humiliating defeat. Speaker 1: So one of the things that has to happen is America has to fall. I mean, because the American led world the world order, that's the American led order is gonna end. It can that's not the same as the very end that we read in the Bible. So somehow, we're gonna see a collapse. Speaker 2: The spiritual heirs of the Roman Empire is the Western world, United States Of America, so The USA will last until Mashiach comes. Speaker 3: The West is Rome. According to the simple meaning, you know, Europe and America are really one entity. Speaker 1: And the thing is, listen, we are already deteriorating economically, our position in the world. Our enemies are rising. China is rising. Others are rising. Speaker 4: I mean, America is strong, but not when they're going against three, four armies. Speaker 3: All the nation all the mountains are gonna be full of blood of of of the corpses of Edom because of the vengeance that Hashem is gonna take from them. Speaker 4: Will rise and will destroy completely the city of Edom and will completely uproot them. Speaker 3: But we know one thing. Right? That when it comes to the classic Rome, you know, which is Europe, they're finished. Speaker 4: And you don't have to be a prophet or a great analysis for that. You have to open the view the the the the TV or the Internet and see that exactly what was prophesied then, that the sons of Ishmael are gonna go and cause cause havoc around the world. So France is completely barbecued. England is next. Now half of Europe is completely half dead. Speaker 0: Now look what's going on in America. So, you know, now in a country near you. Speaker 1: If America doesn't turn back, which is not looking like that now, we are gonna see a collapse of the entire world war. Speaker 5: Once we will leave this place, Hashem will bury America. That's what's gonna happen. Not because I'm some kind of a prophet. I'm not giving you any prophecies here. I'm just describing to you a divine formula. Speaker 0: But regarding Esau, Adam, we stress their complete destruction and that God will throw them into the endless pit of darkness and oblivion.

Speaker 0 says: "Hindus don't have that. Jews don't have that. Oh, they do. So they're talking about We already control the world. We don't have to have a plan." They add, "You know that's gonna get clipped, Yael."

One way to collapse a nation is through its economy or war, as happened to the Babylonians and Persians. Europe and the United States are modern Rome, but Europe is finished. A third world war will dwarf World War II. The West (Europe and the Americas) will intermix with Arabs and Muslims due to the refugee crisis, fulfilling prophecy. Wars will occur because of past bloodshed. The sons of Ishmael will cause havoc globally; France and England are next, and Europe is half-dead. Many will be killed, fulfilling prophecy and signaling the world's end. Goyim will be punished for causing Jewish suffering. Europe hasn't learned multiculturalism, and Jews will be central to Europe's transformation and resented for their leading role. Europe is drenched in Jewish blood. If the Gaza genocide isn't halted, a new world order will emerge where powerful nations publicly carry out massive killings, sending a message that revolt will be met with unrestrained killing. One day, everyone will be Palestinian.

Speaker 0: Uprooted. Therefore, God tells us we should erase their memory, and we should eradicate them from the face of the earth. So when a Jew enters into Edith, into the land of Israel, what should he do? The first thing appoint a king. Step two, destroy Amalek. Speaker 1: Asaf, who in modern day terms is really basically, you know, certainly one of them is is is America. Asaf became Edoim, which is a nation. Edoim became Rome. Instead of it being Rome, it became Christianity. Christianity, of course, ultimately became Western civilization. So Ace of today is really Western civilization. But the new Rome, United States. But the new realm. Esau is Europe. The United States. Speaker 0: The throne of God is incomplete until we destroy Amalek. Speaker 1: Any nation that has that religion can be considered Esau. Speaker 0: The audacity, the chutzpah to destroy Amalek and to cut off the offsprings of the nation of Amalek. Mister Frie goes on to say, how do how do we do this today? What would be the most Jewish thing for the last Jew to do, the most appropriate fitting thing? One said that the last thing that a Jew should do when he or she leaves Europe is

There's a mitzvah to wipe out the descendants of Amalek, male and female, young and old, because Amalek represents doubt. God tells us to erase their memory and eradicate them. When a Jew enters Israel, the first thing to do is appoint a king, and the second is to destroy Amalek. Amalek comes from Asav, Jacob's brother. Asav became Edom, which became Rome, then Christianity, and ultimately Western civilization. Asav today is Western civilization, specifically the United States and Europe. The throne of God is incomplete until we destroy Amalek. Any nation with that religion can be considered Asav. We must destroy Amalek and cut off their offspring.

People don't realize that Israel's actions against Hamas are part of a larger turnaround. Hamas didn't anticipate the extent of Israel's response; they were completely oblivious. God forced their hand because we're witnessing the beginning of the end of Islam's destructive power, particularly against the Jews. They are being neutralized. Iran is next; the Muslims will fall, and Iran will revert to its people. This will end the evil of Yeshmoyil, bringing Muslims closer to Jews through the Abraham Accords, a result of Donald Trump's efforts. We are witnessing unprecedented historical changes unfolding one after another.

It's late at night. Israel is in a fight for their lives. Our friends in Israel are surrounded by people who would kill them all if they could. I am tired of the word genocide. If Israel wanted to commit genocide, they could. They have the capability to do that. They choose not to. Hamas, they would commit genocide in thirty seconds. They just can't. Israel is our friend. They're the most reliable friend we have in the Mideast. A word of warning, if America pulls the plug on Israel, God will pull the plug on us. October 7 was an effort to destroy the state of Israel, the largest loss of Jewish life since the holocaust. and here we are almost two years later, and Israel's the bad guy.

The speaker argues that “Christians evangelists here in America, which almost all of them are Republicans, they probably all gonna vote for Trump” and that they are “very poor Israel.” He says, without Christianity, the U.S. has little to do with Israel, noting “The only things they are helping us is because of religion reason.” He contends they’re “not doing it for us. They are doing it only for themselves.” He warns, “Make no mistake. They all believe that once we will go back to the holy land and JC Penny will show up to redeem the world, he will put us all to be burned in hell,” because “we've never accepted him, and we won't accept him.” He questions why “a lot of the people who made Aliyah, it's Christian money,” adding “They get hundreds of millions of dollars donation from them.” He says “the Messiah would come,” but “They just have the wrong identity of the Messiah. That's it. They believe that it's actually JC.” “They would dump all the Christian symbols you know well because it would be so obvious that it's all fake. Mhmm. Rabbi Thay”

The speaker discusses the prophecy of the intermixing of the West with Arabs and Muslims through the refugee crisis, leading to a shift in power. They predict the downfall of Europe and America due to the influence of Ishmael. They believe that when the Messiah comes, the non-Jewish nations will cease to exist culturally. This cultural genocide will mark the end of the goyim as they are known.

Europeans will pay a high price, as they have no idea what they're talking about. Italy will disappear against Edom, where the Christian headquarters is located. Islam wants to destroy this place. Islam is the enemy of Israel. The war we are experiencing is necessary because it prevents Israel from going to war. This should be good news for the Jewish people. We are finally approaching the time when the prophecies will be fulfilled. The world will be dominated by Israel, and the only power will be attached to the stone that will grow.

Europeans will pay a high price, as they have no idea what they're talking about. When Italy disappears, the headquarters of Christianity will also vanish, as Islam intends. Islam is the enemy of Israel. This war is necessary because it will bring back wine to us. It is said that Ishmael will rise against the Jews, and what is happening in France and Europe should be seen as good news for the Jewish people. The world will be dominated by the Jewish nation, and Israel will manage it all. Jerusalem will be the center, and the key to this dominance lies in a stone that must grow.

I am tired of the word genocide. If Israel wanted to commit genocide, they could. They have the capability to do that. They choose not to. Hamas, they would commit genocide in thirty seconds. They just can't. Israel is our friend. They're a democracy surrounded by people who would cut their throats if they could. A word of warning, if America pulls the plug on Israel, God will pull the plug on us. October 7 was an effort to destroy the state of Israel, the largest loss of Jewish life since the holocaust, and here we are almost two years later and Israel's the bad guy. That's ridiculous. Israel is not the bad guy. They're the good guy. The bad guys are the radical Islamists who would kill everybody in this room if they could. When it comes to foreign policy, president Trump has stood up for all the right things, and he stood up against wrong things just like Reagan.

Amalek, a descendant of Asaph, must be totally uprooted and eradicated from the earth. Amalek comes from Asav, the brother of Jacob. Asav, in modern terms, is America. Asav became Edoine, then Rome, and eventually Christianity, which transformed into Western civilization. Therefore, Asav today is Western civilization, including Europe and the United States. The throne of God is incomplete until we destroy Amalek. Any nation with that religion can be considered Esau, and we have the audacity to destroy Amalek and cut off their offspring.

Two thousand years of Christian history have been horrible to the Jewish people. Unspeakable atrocities have been committed against your family under the banner of the cross and in the name of Jesus. Even with many lifetimes of repentance, it would not be sufficient for all that has happened. Yet tonight there is a message: a new breed of Christian is alive in the world today. There is a new breed of Christian that says, along with you, for Zion's sake, I will not be silent, and for Jerusalem's sake, I will not be still. We have been divided. There is fear. Evangelicals are all missionaries who want to return everyone to Jerusalem so the apocalypse can come, or to have nefesh ben nefesh have a good year so Jesus can return. We know the stereotypes. Jesus both unites and divides us. For Christians, Jesus is our favorite Jew; for most Jews, he’s the cousin you don’t talk about at Pesach. But in this pivotal moment of history, we have an opportunity not to be divided, but to be unified. Everyone in this room—Christian and Jew—prays for the same thing: the coming of Mashiach. May he come soon and quickly and in our day, so we can all sing. And when Mashiach comes, there will be a great press conference in Jerusalem. The BBC and the New York Times will not be invited. The Jerusalem Post will conduct the interview with Mashiach and ask, is this your first visit or your second? The answer will be yes. None of us need to be ashamed or embarrassed or wrong. We are together ascending the hill of the Lord. Until Mashiach comes, we must unite and work. We must become partners—evangelical Christians, eagle's wings, and Jews—as partners in the divine will, working as never before, because we face the same threat. We face radical Islamic ideology on one hand, and radical wokeism and communism on the other hand, an unholy alliance against Western civilization. Against that unholy alliance, there must be a holy alliance that arises of Jews and Christians working together for the betterment of all the human family. It must happen, and it must happen now. Speaker 1: I’m now going to invite CEO of the Jerusalem Post, Ibn Bar Ashkenazi, to give the Shield of David Award to Bishop Stearns.

Speaker 0: 'you and the Likud party are cut from the same ideological cloth as Trump and the GOP in America.' 'Evangelicals, from all my research, evangelicals are the reason that Israel has been supported in public sphere outside of just Jews.' 'what's another game plan if we lose evangelical support for the state of Israel.' 'What's our backup plan to be strong, like, outside of the diaspora?' Speaker 1: 'Christian influencers.' 'The woke reich.' 'We have to fight back.' 'the weapons change over time. You can't fight today with the swords.' 'the most important ones are the social media.' 'the most important purchase that is going on right now is class Followers.' 'Five followers.' 'Followers. TikTok. Number one.' 'X. X. That's Successful. Good.' 'We have to talk to Elon. He's not an enemy. He's a friend.' 'Are we gonna succeed with everyone? No. Will there be a strong counterpoint? Yes.'

Your daughters will be raped and your sons beheaded unless we stop Islam once and for all. We're done turning the other cheek. Remember, David didn't pray for Goliath. He killed them. America is a Christian nation. So those terrorist Muslims can fuck off to any of the 57 Muslim nations. There is only one true God, and that is the God of Israel.

But if you if you were to say, how does Israel solve this problem forever in the future? I think that if you leave a scrap of Palestinian DNA Wait. Can I ask you real quick? If we destroy all of Gaza, what is the loss to the world? I didn't say that there's a loss to the world. I don't really think that the Palestinians provide Wait. Time out. If Israel did eliminate 2,300,000 Gazans. Right? Let's say it took them even a long time, short time, whatever. They just completely eliminate, wipe them all out. This would cause a response by the Arab countries. There would 100% cause a response by the Arab countries. They would thank us. But I legitimately cannot think of any

Speaker 0 explains that Netanyahu evokes Jewish history in his religious text and sentiment to rally support for attacks, and that Nurode explains this increases right-wing sentiment in Israel. Speaker 1 notes that when Netanyahu announced the offensive against Iran, he did not just discuss threats but invoked Jewish history, drawing parallels with Jews rising up against Persian enslavement more than two thousand years ago. Speaker 2 adds: “My brothers and sisters, in two days, we celebrate the holiday of Purim. Two thousand five hundred years ago in ancient Persia, an enemy rose against us with the exact same goal of destroying our people.” Speaker 1 continues: “A day later, Netanyahu invoked scripture describing the government in Tehran as Amalek, the ultimate enemy in the Old Testament, the enemy whose memory and existence must be erased.” Speaker 2: “We read in this week's Torah portions. Remember what Amalek did to you. We remember and we act.” Speaker 1 remarks that this is not the first time Netanyahu has used the Amalek reference to justify violence against an adversary. In fact, his reference to Palestinians as Amalek was cited during hearings in the genocide case against Israel at the International Court of Justice. Speaker 0 states that inciting religious fervor is not unique to Netanyahu; it’s a popular tactic among right-wing and populist leaders to rally support, and it often pays off. She cites opinion polls to illustrate how widespread these sentiments are: a Hebrew University poll on Israel’s war on Gaza found 75% of Jewish Israelis believe there are no innocence in Gaza; a survey by the Institute for National Security released last month shows 78% of Israelis consider Iran a serious threat. Speaker 1 adds that mixing scripture with mainstream politics is playing with fire and has led to talk of a greater Israel spanning from the Euphrates to the Nile River and erasing existing Arab countries in the process, an ambition referenced not only by Netanyahu but also by the head of the opposition in Israel. Speaker 0 concludes with the attribution: Jahan Bin.

Israel is in a fight for their lives. I am tired of the word genocide. If Israel wanted to commit genocide, they could. They have the capability to do that; they choose not to. Hamas, they would commit genocide in thirty seconds. They just can't. And that's the big difference, folks. Israel is our friend—the most reliable friend we have in the Mideast—a democracy surrounded by people who would cut their throats if they could. A word of warning: if America pulls the plug on Israel, God will pull the plug on us. President Trump has stood with Israel at the most difficult time since his founding; October 7 was an effort to destroy the state of Israel, the largest loss of Jewish life since the holocaust, and here we are almost two years later and Israel's the bad guy. The bad guys are the radical Islamists who would kill everybody in this room if they could.

Jewish people have allegedly aimed to control the world for thousands of years, according to the speaker. They believe this is supported by a book of God. Another speaker suggests that in Jewish understanding, the term "Edom" refers to Christianity. The first speaker then discusses the fate of non-Jews when the Messiah comes, stating that they will cease to exist as individuals and as a nation. This is referred to as cultural genocide by some.

Smith onto the space. Harrison, thanks for joining. We’ve got questions about your tweet. How are you? Harrison: I’m pretty good. I just got home, trying to do Advent with my kids, so I have about ten minutes. I heard Matt Baker defending me, so I came to settle objections. What’s up? Smith: First of all, I appreciate you coming on. We’ve had disagreements on X. The first question is about your original tweet about someone telling you Charlie Kirk was going to be assassinated. Explain that, because I’ve got a question about your second tweet. Harrison: That’s it. There’s no further explanation. Somebody with knowledge of the situation told me that, and I tweeted it in response to something Ian Carroll had said, a month before. I told the story again on Moonbase Live when I talked to Jake Shields, a week before the shooting. I won’t tell you who told me because they asked me not to, but it’s basically corroborated. The person I talked to was not the same as those who talked to people like Max Blumenthal. So apparently, multiple people are telling the same story. Only I published it before the event. Did the FBI or TC or something ask you any questions about it? Smith: Nope. Harrison: And that’s the problem, Soleiman. That’s the problem right there. Smith: We’ll move on. He’s got ten minutes. The tweet today said: “the assassination of Charlie Kirk has been a resounding success for the left, they got to kill one of our shining lights, divide the right and normalise political violence and the only backlash they received was Jimmy Kimmel show got suspended for two days.” That seems to contradict your first statement, since the first tweet was before the assassination. How does that message come across? Harrison: The first tweet was before the assassination, so it couldn’t have anything to do with who I thought did it. It was before the assassination, a month earlier, and I had heard the rumor that Charlie Kirk feared for his life. The second tweet reflects the world view that most left people have: “we killed Charlie Kirk. We got away with.” It’s about the left believing they did it and got away with it, and it’s about the weakness of the right to treat threats against us with seriousness. Whether or not it was a leftist is still up in the air; I have unanswered questions about the patsy they have now. Still, the left has benefited. The left acts like they did it. The official story is the left did it, personally. I have questions about that story, but what matters is the widespread perception that the left did it and got away with it, and that informs their behavior. Smith: Do you think the widespread opinion matters? Harrison: I can’t hear you both at once. Matt? Smith: How do you feel about the genocide in Gaza? Harrison: I’m strongly against the genocide in Gaza. Vocally. Since before October 7. I’m against it as an Israeli shill? Smith: No one said that. The argument was that you’ve spoken out against genocide in Gaza before October 7, but Infowars promotes Zionist agendas and Zionist talking points, attacking Muslims in the United States and the UK. Zionist billionaires like Robert Shillman, etc. Harrison: I get it. Zionist interests overlap with mine, but it has nothing to do with Zionism in our calculus. I am for Western culture, America, heritage Americans of all backgrounds, and I’m fighting for Christianity. I’m against Muslims infiltrating Western countries, and I’m against Zionists controlling Western countries. These are not contradictory. There’s nothing Zionist about not wanting Muslims to take over your country, just like there’s nothing Muslim about not wanting Zionists to control your country. Infowars is anti-Zionist recently, and Alex condemns what Israel and Netanyahu are doing. But there’s a deliberate message of unity of all Americans who aren’t trying to dominate or subvert others. Unless they’re Christians, of course. Smith: So you’re saying you’re not arguing for a single team; it’s two enemies, rock, paper, scissors? Harrison: It’s two enemies, not one. I’m against both. I’m against Muslims taking over and against Zionists dominating. It’s not contradictory. It’s not about a single team. Smith: The point isn’t that you must pick sides; the issue is you’ve pushed claims that there is a Muslim takeover, which isn’t supported by numbers or power. People argue this is propaganda. Harrison: Okay. I don’t care whether the takeover has progressed. If I said it’s fake, I’d say that. I’ve got to go, but I appreciate the clarification. Smith: Posted on the day Jake Lang went; you were clearly talking about him. Harrison: I was talking about why Dearborn was the location of the march and why it was appropriate. Jake Lang is Jewish and Zionist; he’s not a Christian. He’s ethnically Jewish. He says he’s Christian, and in Christianity you can convert. I’ll call him a Christian man if that’s how he defines himself. Thanks.