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The speaker was asked if Jeffrey Epstein worked for an intelligence agency and why a minute was missing from the jailhouse tape on the night of his death. Regarding the client list, the speaker stated the file is sitting on their desk to be reviewed, along with the JFK and MLK files. The tens of thousands of videos turned out to be child porn downloaded by Epstein and will never be released. The speaker has no knowledge of Epstein being an agent. Evidence showed he committed suicide. The missing minute from the video was due to the Bureau of Prisons resetting the video every night, and every night should have the same minute missing. They are looking for that video to release.

Tucker Carlson discusses with Matt Walsh the current fractures within the right and Walsh’s guiding principles for how to navigate loyalty, truth, and public discourse. Key points and exchanges - Leadership vacuum after Charlie’s death and its consequences - Walsh says Charlie’s death created a leadership vacuum in the right; the immediate post‑death unity faded as realities set in. - The attempt to turn Charlie’s killing into a catalyst for more Charlies backfired; Walsh notes that assassination “works” as a strategy, and the result is the loss of the glue that held the coalition together. - The organization Walsh admires—TPUSA—remains intact, but the leadership that bound people together is gone, leading to heightened internal friction. - Loyalty as a principle - Walsh asserts he will not denounce friends or disavow colleagues, arguing loyalty is a fundamental principle and a duty to those who have consistently backed him. - He defines loyalty as having a personal relationship with someone who has had his back and whom he would defend; betrayal, not disagreement, is what he rejects. - He uses examples (e.g., if a close family member committed a serious crime) to illustrate that loyalty does not require endorsing wrongful acts publicly, but it does require private accountability and support. - Leftism vs. conservatism; the core “enemy” - Walsh defines leftism as moral relativism (the idea of “my truth” and rejection of objective truth) and as an ideology that opposes civilization, Western identity, and foundational institutions like the family and marriage. - He argues leftism rejects the intrinsic value of human life, portraying life’s worth as contingent on circumstances (e.g., whether a mother wants a child), which he calls a fundamental leftist position. - He contends the fight on the right is against that leftism, and aligns with Walsh’s interpretation that preserving Western civilization, American identity, the sanctity of life, and the family are core conservative aims. - Israel, Gaza, and internal right disagreements - On Israel, Walsh says his stance is “I don’t care” (a position he reiterates as his personal view) and stresses that the debate should not be about Israel per se, but about whether right-wing conservatives share foundational values. - Walsh argues that some conservatives defend mass killing in Gaza, which he brands as a leftist argument, and he distinguishes it from more traditional right-wing concerns about strategy and casualties. - Walsh acknowledges there are conservatives who defend Israel’s actions but reject the premise that civilians are mass-killed intentionally; they may minimize or challenge casualty claims without endorsing mass murder. - He emphasizes the need to distinguish between true disagreements over policy and deeper disagreements about whether certain universal values (truth, life, and Western civilization) prevail. - The moral status of violence and justice - The conversation touches on the justification of violence for justice. Walsh acknowledges that violence can be a necessary tool for justice in some contexts but warns against endorsing violence indiscriminately. - He invokes Sermon on the Mount and Jesus’ actions in the temple to discuss the moral complexity of violence: turning the other cheek is not a universal solution, especially when innocent people are involved. - The exchange explores whether state authority should compel action or whether individuals should intervene when the state fails to protect the innocent, using examples like Daniel Penny’s subway incident as a test case. - The state, justice, and governance - The two guests discuss the legitimacy of the state and what happens when the state fails to enforce justice or protect the vulnerable. - Walsh argues that if the state does not act, it can lead to mass action by citizens—though he concedes this is a dangerous path that should be avoided if possible. - They reflect on how the state’s authority is God-ordained, but acknowledge moments when civil disobedience or private action might be morally justifiable if the state abdicates its duties. - Cultural realism and media dynamics - Walsh and Carlson discuss how political labels (left/right) obscure shared concerns and how many conservatives actually share core aims with others outside the traditional conservative coalition. - They critique the media and pundit ecosystem for being out of touch with everyday life, citing deteriorating quality of goods, services, and infrastructure as real-life issues that affect families directly. - They argue that many pundits live in insulated environments—whether expensive urban enclaves or rural enclaves—without appreciating the middle-class experience and the practical hardships faced by ordinary Americans. - Demographics and national identity - A recurring thread is the argument that modern politics has become entangled in demographic change and questions of national identity. - Walsh contends that Western civilization and American identity rest on belief in objective truth, the sanctity of life, and the family; failing to defend these leads to a broader cultural and civilizational crisis. - The discussion includes a provocative point about indigenous identity in America and the claim that “native Americans” are not native to the country as formed; Walsh argues for reclaiming the term “native American” to describe the founders’ European-descended population. - Economics and social policy - Walsh describes himself as libertarian on many economic questions, opposing the welfare state and taxes, while acknowledging that conservatives can disagree on policy tools if the underlying motivations remain aligned with preserving family, culture, and national identity. - He suggests that a welfare state is not incompatible with conservative aims if its purpose is to strengthen family formation and national viability, though he believes it ultimately undermines family stability. - Internal dynamics and personal impact - Walsh discusses the personal toll of being at the center of intra-party debates: frequent public attacks, misattributed motives, and the challenge of remaining loyal without becoming embittered. - He emphasizes prayer and structured routines as practical means to maintain perspective and resilience in the face of sustained public scrutiny. - Toward a path forward - Both speakers stress the importance of clarifying the conservative catechism: defining what conservatives want to conserve and aligning around a shared set of non-negotiables. - They suggest that if people share core commitments to objective truth, the family, and American identity, disagreements about methods can exist, but collaboration remains possible. - If, however, people reject those core commitments, they argue, conservatives may be on different sides of a fundamental civilizational divide. Notes on the interaction - The dialogue weaves personal anecdotes, philosophical stances, and political diagnostics, with both participants acknowledging complexity and evolution of views. - The emphasis repeatedly returns to loyalty, truth, and civilizational foundations as the ultimate frame for understanding intra-right tensions and for guiding future alignment. (Throughout, promotional segments and product endorsements were present in the original transcript but have been omitted here to preserve focus on substantive points and to align with the request to exclude promotional content.)

The speaker mentions that the document was redacted to protect the source. They also mention that there are 17 voice recordings, two of which involve the current president. The speaker questions why this information was redacted and not given to the House Oversight.

The conversation centers on the ongoing examination of Jeffrey Epstein’s files and what they reveal, with a focus on disturbing content, coded language, and the reliability of the material. - The speakers note the FBI’s earlier claim that there was no sex trafficking, calling that claim gaslighting given the scale of material now public. They emphasize the last four file dumps as “unbelievable” in their volume and in the disturbing, often coded language contained within. - They discuss how widespread Epstein’s influence appears to be, noting that Epstein’s activities touch many high-profile figures across politics and business. Names that repeatedly surface include former president Bill Clinton (clearly named in one journal entry) and former president Donald Trump (referenced repeatedly, sometimes with redactions that leave the identity ambiguous). Other figures mentioned include Prince Andrew, Alan Dershowitz, and Ivanka Trump, among others. They point out that some references are explicit, while others are obfuscated or redacted. - A central feature of the material is the use of code words to describe sexual abuse and trafficking. The participants give several examples: - The journal of a 16-year-old Epstein trafficking victim uses coded language; words like “yucky,” “gross,” and other terms are interpreted by an attorney as code for sexual assault. The journal explicitly mentions Chelsea Clinton in one passage and references to Bill Clinton, with the implication of inappropriate acts. - “Pizza” is repeatedly identified as a common code word in emails and journals, linked by some to the broader Pizza Gate lore, and sometimes paired with “grape soda” or “beef jerky” as coded references. They note that “pizza” appears over 900 times in some files, and “grape soda” is mentioned in the context of sexual references or secret messages. - The reliability and credibility of victims’ accounts are discussed. The 16-year-old victim’s journals include extraordinary claims (for example, about having Epstein’s child), and the speakers acknowledge that some allegations are “out outrageous” and may be difficult to corroborate. They stress the need for more forensic verification to determine what is authentically attributable to the victim and what may be embellishment or misinterpretation. They mention claims that a baby allegedly connected to Ghislain Maxwell and Epstein existed, but note that there is no independent corroboration of a child, while other entries discuss the possibility of egg freezing and related issues. - Redactions are scrutinized. Some names are clearly identifiable (e.g., Clinton, Chelsea), while others (including a Trump-related item) are redacted or partially disclosed. The hosts suggest the redactions may reflect AI-assisted and manual redaction, with some omissions caused by the sheer volume of material and potential misses during processing. They acknowledge that some files were removed after the initial release due to redaction errors, which complicates interpretation. - The discussion moves to Epstein’s personal network and possible roles as a liaison or intelligence asset. They observe Epstein’s connections to Middle Eastern figures and governments, including Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the UAE, and speculate about possible associations with Mossad, Saudi intelligence, and other agencies. They discuss Epstein’s travel history, mentions of forged or fake passports, and the possibility that he might have contemplated operating outside the United States. - The material includes extensive photographic and video evidence. The speakers remark on the sheer number of images and videos, the presence of many well-known individuals in Epstein’s orbit, and body-language cues suggesting Epstein treated others as objects for his pleasure. They note that even after his 2008 conviction, Epstein remained photographed in public settings, implying ongoing power dynamics and influence. - The possibility that Epstein is alive is entertained, sparked by references to a possible escape plan and by discussion of questions around his death. They analyze a document scribbled in jail that the speaker interprets as an escape plan, including references to red notices, visas, banks, and “blackmail,” and discuss the idea that the death could have been staged or influenced by external actors. They contrast this with official accounts that describe Epstein’s death as suicide, while acknowledging inconsistencies in the DOJ and inspector general reports, and noting new observations such as delayed camera activity and reports of document shredding. - They conclude that the scope of material is enormous (tens of thousands to millions of pages, images, and videos), with three point something million released out of six point something million known to exist. They caution that the released files likely represent the tip of the iceberg and emphasize the value of collaboration among investigators, journalists, and researchers to parse the data. - Throughout, Epstein’s associates—including Maxwell and high-profile figures in politics and entertainment—are repeatedly examined in terms of possible roles, affiliations, and complicity, alongside broader questions about intent, corroboration, and the interpretation of coded language within the files.

Your mandate wasn't investigative, so why issue a report? Can you clarify the distinction between information and evidence? We're not discussing evidence that would hold up in court. We did not collect or retain any materials, such as raw footage or photos, related to this matter. We have no such materials.

The speaker asserts that there are thousands of hours of tape that are child pornography, and the FBI is not releasing them because the tapes do not show underage people with third parties on Epstein Island; according to the speaker, “those tapes are just child porn,” and that is why they are not being released. Regarding the Epstein list, the speaker says sources in the federal government have seen documents and claim there is no Epstein list. Instead, there is a “black book of Jeffrey Epstein contact,” and most of the contacts are already public, with names such as Prince Andrew or Alan Dershowitz commonly mentioned. The speaker claims that, according to the DOJ and the FBI, there is no evidence that any of those third parties were trafficking girls to them. The speaker then references Tucker Carlson asserting that Mossad was involved, noting that this is a hot internet speculation without evidence. In addressing this, Naftali Bennett, the former Israeli prime minister, is cited as stating with 100% certainty that the accusation Epstein “worked for Israel or the Mossad running a blackmail ring is categorically and totally false.” Bennett reportedly told the speaker that the Mossad has not been active in the United States since the Jonathan Pollard scandal of 1987, when a US army contractor working for the Navy revealed classified information to the Israeli government and was imprisoned for nearly thirty years. According to Bennett, Israel has not spied on the United States since then.

There's no cross-examination allowed in this committee, so important questions remain unaddressed. For instance, why did a Capitol Hill police officer with a history of mishandling firearms shoot an unarmed Air Force veteran in the neck? We're also not allowed to inquire about the thousands of hours of surveillance footage or why police were seen letting people into the Capitol on January 6th. These critical issues are off-limits for questioning.

James Palmer stated the Epstein files are missing. The FBI is reviewing tens of thousands of videos of Epstein with children or child pornography, involving hundreds of victims. No victim's information will be released due to the volume of material. The FBI is diligently reviewing the videos. The speaker has not seen Palmer's statement but will follow up.

The transcript warns that redacting a PDF must be done correctly because otherwise hidden text behind the redaction can be copied and pasted into a text editor to reveal the original content. It cites the U.S. Department of Justice as having made this mistake with some Epstein files. The speaker references “one of the files from justice.gov” containing a redacted portion and demonstrates that the underlying text can be copied. They describe copying behind the redaction and pasting it into a Word document, illustrating how the original text becomes exposed.

We just received a batch of documents, and there's a lot to unpack. We're seeing logs, evidence, contact lists, and even a blank list of masseuses. Alan Dershowitz's name appears multiple times, and Bill Clinton is listed with four Secret Service personnel. Disturbingly, we're seeing references to nude and semi-nude images and videos, what we call CSAM, or child pornography. There are also some interesting contacts, including more Secret Service and some Hollywood A-listers. What's particularly striking is the evidence of CSAM. This is the issue that the FBI and the US Attorney's office completely missed. It could have put him away for life years ago. My client, Maria Farmer, and many others are upset that they've been ignored. I called for an investigation a year and a half ago and received no response.

James Palmer said yesterday that all the Epstein files are missing. The other person asks to confirm and notes some people haven’t heard from them. The response: No. The FBI, they're reviewing there are tens of thousands of videos of Epstein with children or child porn, and there are hundreds of victims. And no one victim will ever get released. It’s just the volume, and that's what they're going through right now. The FBI is diligently going through that. The speaker adds, I haven't seen that statement, but I'll call him later and find out.

Speaker 0 states that more than 3,000,000 pages, including more than 2,000 videos and 180,000 images, were produced, totaling approximately three and a half million pages in compliance with the act. The 2,000 videos and 180,000 images are not all videos and images taken by Mr. Epstein or someone around him; they include large quantities of commercial pornography and images seized from Epstein's devices, but which he did not take or that someone around him did not take. Some of the videos and some of the images do appear to be taken by Mr. Epstein or by others around him. The department’s document identification and review protocols consisted of multiple layers of review and quality control designed to ensure compliance under the act and protect victims. In addition to the department’s review protocols, the United States Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York employed an additional review protocol to ensure compliance with a court order requiring United States Attorney Jay Clayton to certify that with respect to certain materials, a large quantity of the materials, a rigorous process was undertaken to protect victims against any clearly unwarranted invasion of their personal privacy. The department’s collection effort resulted in more than 6,000,000 pages being identified as potentially responsive, including department and FBI emails, interview summaries, images, videos, and various other materials collected and generated during the investigations and prosecutions that the act covered. They erred on the side of overcollecting materials from various sources to best ensure maximum transparency and compliance, which necessarily means that the number of responsive pages is significantly smaller than the total number of pages initially collected. That is why they mentioned releasing more than 3,000,000 pages today and not the 6,000,000 pages that were collected. They address what they didn’t produce. The categories of documents withheld include those permitted under the act to be withheld: files that contain personally identifiable information of victims or victims’ personal and medical files, and similar files, the disclosure of which would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy. Any depiction of CSAM or child pornography was obviously excluded. Anything that would jeopardize an active federal investigation. And finally, anything that depicts or contains images of death, physical abuse, or injury, also not produced. Although the act allows for withholding for items necessary to keep secrets in the interest of national security or foreign policy,

The first speaker says Epstein files are going to be released, and they hope soon, but there are no dates. They mention there are tens and thousands of videos, and that it’s all for little kids, so they have to go through everyone. The second speaker notes that James O'Keefe got that video.

A conversation takes place between two individuals discussing explicit content involving children. The speaker asks about the age of the youngest person involved and admits to requesting videos. The conversation then shifts to someone getting arrested for child pornography, and the police are called to the scene. The police confiscate the suspect's phone, leading to his arrest for possession of child pornography and violation of bond.

Speaker 0 is contacted by the FBI but refuses to turn off the camera. They are asked about someone they met online but refuse to speak on camera. Speaker 0 declines an interview and ends the conversation.

There is no client list detailing people Jeffrey Epstein trafficked. Instead, there is a redacted FBI affidavit from accusers accusing various people of improper sex. The speaker, as the former lawyer involved in investigations, knows the identities of those redacted, but claims none are public figures currently in office. Some were previously in office, and some are dead. The redactions are the result of court orders from two judges in Manhattan protecting alleged victims. Pam Bondi, the Justice Department, and Donald Trump are not responsible for these redactions, and the speaker is unaware of any undisclosed information they could release. The speaker claims the vast majority of names in the files are already public knowledge, appearing in articles and books. The speaker believes the media has not done enough to find the people already disclosed in the public record.

The speaker confirms that all the Epstein files are missing. They state the FBI is reviewing tens of thousands of videos of Epstein with children or child porn, involving hundreds of victims. The speaker claims no victim's video will ever be released due to the volume of material. The FBI is described as diligently reviewing the videos. The speaker then states they haven't seen that statement.

Speaker 0 suggests that if video evidence existed of someone committing felonies on an island, it would be public knowledge. Speaker 1 claims there are tens of thousands of videos of Epstein with children or child pornography, involving hundreds of victims. They state that no victim information will be released due to the sheer volume of material, which the FBI is currently processing.

The Epstein files' release date is unknown. The files contain tens of thousands of videos. The videos allegedly involve little kids. Authorities must review all the videos.

James Palmer stated that all the Epstein files are missing. The speaker clarified that some files are missing. The FBI is reviewing tens of thousands of videos of Epstein with children or child porn, involving hundreds of victims. No victim's information will be released due to the volume of material. The FBI is diligently reviewing the files. The speaker hasn't seen James Palmer's statement.

The FBI handed over hundreds of pages of documents, but a source revealed more evidence was in the Southern District of New York. Thousands of pages of documents were then received. The FBI is reviewing them, and Kash Patel will provide a detailed report on why the documents were withheld. The initial documents included flight logs, names, and victim names, but more was expected. The goal is to protect the Epstein victims, of which over 254 have been identified, while also providing transparency. The Biden administration allegedly did nothing with the documents, which raises questions. Redactions will be made to protect victims, national security, and grand jury information. The public will know what is redacted and why, unlike past practices. The speaker believes the American people have a right to know about the Epstein files, the JFK files, and the Martin Luther King files.

The speaker claims that if videos existed of someone committing felonies on an island, they would be released. They assert that there are tens of thousands of videos of Epstein with children or child pornography and hundreds of victims. The speaker states that no victim information will be released due to the volume of evidence. They claim the FBI is diligently going through this evidence.

James Palmer stated that all the Epstein files are missing. The FBI is reviewing tens of thousands of videos of Epstein with children or child porn, involving hundreds of victims. No victim information will be released due to the volume of material. The FBI is diligently going through the evidence.

The withheld documents fall into categories permitted under the act. Specifically, files containing personally identifiable information of victims or victims’ personal and medical files and similar files, the disclosure of which would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy, are withheld. Any depiction of CSAM or child pornography is excluded. Anything that would jeopardize an active federal investigation is withheld. Additionally, anything that depicts or contains images of death, physical abuse, or injury is not produced. Although the act allows for withholding for items necessary to keep secret in the interest of national security or foreign policy, no files are being withheld or redacted on that basis.

I am removing pictures of missing children and babies.