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I received information from a US government source about a program called Kona Blue, connected to AATIP. Despite signing a nondisclosure agreement, the program has been released. The US military is responding to numerous unidentified objects in the sky and underwater, prompting aircraft relocations. Chris Mellon recently discussed this issue.

Speaker 0 notes that the last administration was not transparent on the issue, but with the task force created, they have guided members within what they're cleared for. He asserts that they have encountered alien beings and recovered vehicles, with physical proof, and that he was partially cleared into those activities, having read intelligence reports from those programs. Speaker 1 reflects that online discourse about encounters and videos is plentiful, and asks if there is belief that the US government knows about alien beings coming to Earth. Speaker 0 responds that he doesn’t like to characterize where they came from, but they are definitely some kind of nonhuman sentience. He claims to have recovered vehicles and physical proof and says he had partial access to the data and to intelligence reports. He confirms seeing with his own eyes according to his account. Speaker 2 says NASA speaks for itself and claims transparency with data, and asks whether to believe David Crush or if he is lying, and where the evidence is. Speaker 0 asserts that members of the current administration are very aware of this reality and the current president is knowledgeable on the subject. He trusts the president’s leadership and believes the president has assembled a team; he says if Trump wants to be the greatest president and the most consequential leader in world history, he certainly has the knowledge, capabilities, and understanding of some of these sensitive government transparency issues. Speaker 3 says he has access and has had meetings with very smart people who believe there is something out there, and it makes sense there could be. He is not convinced himself. He asks if the person believes one, that he knows, and two, that he’s open to transparency on UAPs. Speaker 0 reiterates that the president is very well informed on the issue, and avoids revealing more than the president might want to reveal. He notes a role to cover this up through administrations. Speaker 1 asks about years of threat and testimony. Speaker 0 says he was physically threatened even before submitting his intelligence community inspector general report under the previous administration, and sought legal protection because of professional and personal fear. Speaker 1 asks about recovering pilots or remains and whether that was seen with his own eyes. Speaker 0 confirms there were pictures and says yes, there were remains. Speaker 1 questions whether the origin is from another planet or outer space, and if it is interdimensional, seeking clarification. Speaker 0 explains he has talked to many veterans of the program and keeps an open mind on origin. He acknowledges an extraterrestrial hypothesis but does not usually go there because he did not see the data, and he is not conversant in the high-confidence theories the US government has. He is not aware of any remains or signs of extraterrestrial beings or technology by his department. Speaker 3 says the US government knows, but asks whether other governments know. Speaker 0 says they know and have their own programs, and notes that two and a half years ago the US has been in an arms race with peer competitors like Russia and China, who have their own programs. He says he was able to view intelligence discussing adversarial programs and will leave it at that. Speaker 3 states that they’ve recovered things, and Speaker 0 confirms, noting there were bodies and physical remains. They discuss whether the motive or intent of the visitors was peaceful or not, acknowledging a mixed bag of activity and motive. They consider whether Earth’s genetic material could be a reason for visits, even jokingly proposing Jurassic Park as a tourist attraction for genetic material on Earth.

Speaker 0 describes unidentified phenomena operating in the airspace over restricted nuclear facilities, stating that these are not ours and that they are “otherworldly things” performing maneuvers that have not been seen. He asserts that he has seen with his own eyes nonhuman craft and nonhuman beings. Speaker 1 emphasizes the extraordinary secrecy surrounding the matter, noting that there have been “very few people in our entire government” who have been allowed or provided access to it. Speaker 0 adds that even presidents have been operating on a need to know basis, but argues that the system is beginning to ramp out of control. He states that it is not acceptable to have secret parts of government that no one ever sees. He says that people have been hurt protecting and hiding this information, and that some individuals claimed it would cost them their lives, yet they spoke out about these things. He further claims that there was information being locked away that could change the trajectory for a species. Speaker 0 concludes by calling the matter “the biggest discovery in human history,” underscoring the enormity of the claimed revelation and its potential implications. In sum, the speakers discuss the presence of nonhuman, apparently otherworldly craft and beings operating in restricted airspace over nuclear facilities, the extreme secrecy and unprecedented access restrictions within the government, the personal risks and sacrifices of those who spoke out, and the belief that suppressing the information has prevented potentially world- or species-changing insights, culminating in the assertion that this constitutes the biggest discovery in human history.

Today, we have a firsthand witness who has retrieved a UFO. I trained as a pilot and have served in various combat roles, including deployments in Bosnia and Kuwait. When asked about the companies involved in UFO crash retrievals, I suggest two guesses would lead to the right answers. I believe there are underwater UFO bases, particularly during the Clinton era. Yes, I have retrieved nonhuman craft. I receive GPS coordinates and a brief description just before dispatching to pick it up. I refer to this experience as ontological relief, realizing that what we perceive as "other" may actually be part of us, blurring the lines between outer space and inner space.

Speaker 0: Have you ever recognized I’m extremely respectful of your clearances and things that you can’t talk about. But has there ever been an instance where you’ve heard somebody’s UAP story and thought, that looks like something from a blue or black page I’ve seen in my past? Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, sir, this is no joke. There is a great man I hope you have on your podcast. Some people have, for example, this professor Dave, who has put him down greatly, and others have called him all kinds of ad hominem attacks. His name is Ashton Forbes of the mh three seventy files. Let’s call them that. He has a pod named Hard Truths Podcast. He has a very interesting set of videos that he has been putting forward and trying to understand the physics, and in my opinion, he has gotten somewhere. And as a matter of fact, this guy is in the health care industry, and yet his ability to take, for example, a physics paper, he’s very interested in, for example, a neutronic fusion. So in other words, without the production of neutrons, fusion being very essential to the power plant, the way these things operate. And in my opinion, one should pay very much attention to what Ashton has to say. It’s those videos, I have never seen anything more remarkable that show the Pais effect in action than those videos. And if indeed somebody took the time to go for the incredible amount of work, in my opinion, to get the physics right, for example, when these three orbs coalesce around the aircraft and start pulsing energy, which is exactly what I’m talking about, a resonance condition being set around the craft, breaking the Schwing limit, you actually see the black hole formation. I don’t know what else to say. But if that is not the Pais effect, right there for everyone to see, I don’t know what it is. Speaker 1: Again, I call it the Pais effect because, again, this is in the wide world now. They cannot take these back. They’ve already, how should I say it, they’ve let them out there. So now they’re in the public eye. Speaker 1: But I think it’s very important, Ashton and I were talking about this, that this is the kind of disclosure you need. It is one thing to keep on hearing, oh, NHI is this. Are we not proud of being humans? Are we not capable of great feats of engineering and physics? Do we not take pride in who we are? Speaker 1: We’re Homo sapiens sapiens, and that’s where we stand. And let anyone come against our species. We shall defeat them because we’re humans. We’re very, very special in this galaxy, sir. In this whole universe, I think we hold a very special place. Speaker 1: Maybe that’s why they visit us.

Speaker 0: We have aluminum, barium, strontium, manganese, surfactants, polymer fibers, graphene, all of this coming down in our breathable air call, Tucker. That's horrifying. So who's doing this specifically? Ultimately, all roads lead to those who print the money, but we know as far as the coordinating entities, certainly DOD, DARPA, and we have documents to prove the existence of these programs going back decades, documents hundreds of pages long. We have an 800 page US senate document from 1978 outlining the scope and scale of these programs then, specifically calling for intergovernmental cooperation, between quote otherwise adversarial nations because of the cross border ramifications of these programs. You can't just geo engineer of your own country. Who's the biggest player? Obviously The United States Of America, because the size of our military. We have the US military has three times more aerial tankers, which are the primary aircraft used in these operations, three times more than all other militaries in the world combined. And if I could back up to the whole condensation trail narrative again, which is perhaps one of the greatest lies ever perpetrated on populations all over the world, all military tankers and all commercial aircraft are equipped with what's known as a high bypass turbofan jet engine. That's a jet powered fan. 90% of the air that moves through that engine is not combusted. So by design, that engine is nearly incapable of producing any condensation material except under rare and extreme circumstances, which are diminishing by the day because of the warming that's occurring in the troposphere. So much warming. We've had two former military pilots that fly private aircraft, important people have contacted us at geongwatch dot org. In both cases, they were off the coast of the Pacific Northwest and their aircraft were forced into emergency auto descents because the air outside that aircraft was 45 to 50 degrees above what it should have been. The air was not dense enough to carry those aircraft. These people are very, very alarmed, but very afraid to speak out.

Speaker 0 (anonymous whistleblower): Government seems to be involved. They’re definitely some kind of nonhuman sentience. We’ve recovered the vehicles and have physical proof. I was partially cleared into those activities and had access to the data, reading intelligence reports resulting from those programs. Speaker 1: And with your own eyes you’ve seen it. So when people say this is kooky, there’s nothing to back it up… Speaker 2 (NASA): NASA is open and transparent with our data. Do you believe what Mister David Crush said, or is he lying? Whatever he said, where’s the evidence? Speaker 1: What do you say? Speaker 0: Members of this administration are very aware of this reality; the current president is very knowledgeable on this subject, and I trust his leadership. I think he’s assembled a cabinet, and I believe if Trump wants to be the greatest president and the most consequential leader in world history, he certainly has the knowledge, the capabilities, and understanding of some of these sensitive government transparency issues. Speaker 3: I have access and have spoken to people about it. I’ve had meetings with very smart, solid people who believe there is something out there. It makes sense there could be, but I’ve never been convinced, despite that. It’s not my thing. Speaker 1: So you think, one, he knows, and two, he’s open to transparency on UAPs? He’s very well informed on this issue. Leave it at that. I don’t want to get ahead of what the president might want to reveal. There’s been a role to cover this up through administrations. Speaker 0: I was physically threatened even before I sent in my intelligence community inspector general report under the previous administration. I had to seek legal protection because I was fearful professionally and personally. Speaker 1: And when you mention recovering pilots or remains nonhuman, that’s something you saw in the intelligence with your eyes? Speaker 0: Yes. There were pictures. It’s uncomfortable to discuss because it’s outside a normal worldview to understand there is a biological sentience that piloted these crafts and does not necessarily look 100% like us. Speaker 1: Were there pictures? Speaker 0: There were. Speaker 1: When I said from another planet or outer space, you said you don’t know where they’re from. Is it interdimensional? What are we talking about? Speaker 0: I’ve talked to a lot of graybeards about the origin. I leave an open mind. There is an extraterrestrial hypothesis, and they could be coming from elsewhere off Earth, but I didn’t see that data. I’m not conversant in the high-confidence theories the US government had. I’m not aware of any remains the department has of extraterrestrial beings or technology. Speaker 1: Do other governments know? Do they have programs? Speaker 0: They have their own programs. Two and a half years ago we’ve been in an arms race with peer competitors—Russia and China—and they have their own programs. I viewed a body of intelligence that discussed adversarial programs. Speaker 1: We’ve recovered things—bodies and physical remains. Was there a sense of their motive or whether it’s peaceful or not? We’ve seen a mixed bag of motives. Speaker 0: Activity and motive vary; the reasons for visiting are not fully understood. Could it be because we have interesting genetic material on Earth and we’re a Jurassic Park tourist attraction? There could be a myriad of reasons. Speaker 1: For other people coming forward, what do you say about intimidation? There are reports of harassment. There’s hope. Congress values whistleblower information now, and there’s appetite to do the right thing. There are things happening behind the scenes that the administration may discuss when ready. Speaker 1: We’ll follow every element. It’s fascinating. Speaker 0: Thanks for having me. Speaker 4: Sean Hannity here. Subscribe to Fox News YouTube pay.

Speaker 0: There have been briefings to Congress that lead us to believe there is definitely an advanced technology out there that's not created by mankind. Speaker 1: About a decade ago I revealed on Joe Rogan that from my research in the Global Sun Admissions, aliens don’t come from distant star systems—they come interdimensionally. We have limited sight across our normal light spectrum and into other dimensions. I’ve spoken to high-level Pentagon people, CIA, scientists, physicists, who’ve said it’s an interdimensional invasion. The Bible and other ancient religions reference an unseen presence entering our universe, our domain, our dimension. There’s a clip of her on Fox News Friday night saying it’s interdimensional, but classified. A craft will show up 100 miles away instantly or fly Mach 20 and make a perfect turn—things that would crush solid stainless steel due to gravity. So we know they’re interdimensionally jumping. Now Trump talks about a big reveal; Obama says aliens are real. This isn’t just about UFOs—it's part of a broader awakening. It’s a distraction from Epstein, perhaps, but Trump said after reelection he’d disclose, and there’s a report due. Disclosure is happening on many fronts. We’re focused on UFOs and extraterrestrials, not taking away from exposing Epstein. There’s a lot of disclosure and crazy stuff happening on every front. Speaker 2: He (the other speaker) gave classified information and wasn’t supposed to. Speaker 1: Aliens are real? He gave classified information, whether they’re real or not. Speaker 3: Hours later, the president posted on Truth Social directing the release of government files related to alien and extraterrestrial life and UFOs. We bring in Florida Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna, chair of the Oversight Committee Task Force on declassification of federal secrets. She has said there is evidence of interdimensional beings that can operate through the time spaces we have. You told Joe Rogan you’ve viewed evidence of interdimensional beings on Earth that operate through time spaces—can you explain? Speaker 0: Yes. In classified briefings we’ve seen evidence suggesting advanced technology not created by mankind. There are videos, including one where a UAP deflects a Hellfire missile, taken from ISR footage off the coast of Yemen. Some physics defy explanation; not the only government to examine this. I view it through national security: are these technologies adversarial weapons or not? The federal government denying access to Congress is alarming in a free society. We expect the American people to decide after reviewing the evidence. Gates has said that if you’ve seen what we’ve seen, you’ll believe it too. Speaker 3: So you’re saying the Air Force has covered up UAP sightings? Is it because we or others have advanced technology, or because a foreign actor has abilities beyond our understanding? Speaker 0: Based on our interviews and testimony, we have reason to believe this tech is not created by mankind. It’s possible there are advanced US weapons denied access to the public. Unelected bureaucrats denying access to Congress is problematic, and there have been whistleblower threats and even deaths discussed in testimony. There’s bipartisan momentum toward disclosure, and we’ll continue to explore with the American people. President Obama’s remarks and Trump’s anticipated declassification are fueling this process. Speaker 1: The elite seek transcendence and to know the secrets of the universe; some are good, some bad, some mixed. Einstein and Planck suggest multiple dimensions; top scientists and billionaires are now speaking of a false hologram, artificial constraints, and gravity bleeding into this universe, with dark matter as a sign of something deeper. Some say we’re in a computer-generated projection, a thought or dream in a programmer’s mind. There’s talk of a sub-transmission zone below the third dimension fighting to ascend. Some believe humanity is at a fifth or sixth dimension intellectually, while a war rages to determine whether humanity will advance or be controlled by a breakaway civilization merging with machines. Google and others allegedly contemplated building a giant artificial system—a hive-mind AI connected to billions of people—that could predict and influence the future, potentially erasing individual free will. A counterstrike is underway to block such systems and promote genuine debate about humanity’s path, including addressing alleged pedophiles and “psychic vampires” in control of AI before humanity is harmed. The interdimensional force behind these developments is said to grant advanced knowledge to certain groups, sometimes described in religious terms as Satan. There’s more to come as disclosures unfold, including anticipated declassification next week when Trump allegedly releases UFO files. Speaker 3: We’ll be watching and covering it next week as disclosure unfolds.

I'm concerned about the evidence I've encountered. Donna Hair, a NASA photographic scientist, testified about seeing high-resolution satellite imagery of a white disk while working at Johnson Space Center. Initially, she thought it was a flaw in the emulsion, but her colleague pointed out that the shadows were consistent with the trees, indicating it was not a flaw. She claimed NASA airbrushed out UFOs from images for various purposes. I accessed the network in Building 8 and found folders containing large, unprocessed images. One image showed a cigar-shaped object above the Earth, featuring geometric domes and no visible seams or man-made features. It clearly did not resemble any known satellite, despite my extensive knowledge of space imagery.

I interviewed a former employee who spent 12 years in black programs at Groom Lake. When I asked if he believed in UFOs, he confidently affirmed their existence but couldn't elaborate. A year later, during another conversation about Groom Lake, he mentioned that there are many activities happening there that he can't disclose until 2025. He added that the technology in the Nevada desert would make George Lucas envious.

The speaker discovered large quantities of aluminum, barium, and strontium in the computer system used for approving hazardous materials. They were aware of industrial processes that could explain these substances, but they found the electronic material safety data sheets (MSDSs) to be vague and lacking manufacturer information. When they asked for clarification on the purpose of these materials, they received no answer and chose not to approve them. As a result, they faced criticism for falling behind on their tasks. Despite their accomplishments and rank, they were later transferred to another air logistics center where they continued to find the same substances.

Has the government conducted secret UAP crash retrieval programs? Yes. Were these programs designed to identify and reverse engineer alien craft? Yes. Do any US contractors have similar programs? I prefer to address that in a closed session. In your book, you mention government employees injured by UAPs who are on leave and receiving compensation. Is that correct? Yes. How can the government deny recovering craft if they are compensating injured individuals? That's a great question. I've seen documentation from the US government regarding individuals who sustained injuries from UAP incidents.

A young military man did his job excellently and accidentally uncovered that our government was implicated in working with the cartels, not fighting them. He later realized that the government then fed him to the cartels, and he’s been on the run for his life for 35 years. Over the years he faced abusive litigation, harassment by narco attorneys, and police records that were allegedly disappeared. He has presented evidence of hitmen coming after him, and after decades he finally obtained his paperwork with the help of county clerks who retrieved records. In May 2025, the man, now 56 and with a new name, was released from a 35-year military-grade NDA. Deciding to confront his past, he travels from Washington back to the base where it began—Fort Huachuca, Arizona. He books a stay at Candlewood Suites on the base and arrives on September 8 at 5:37 PM. In the lobby he notices a Special Forces-looking person and a young woman who leave in a green pickup with him. The next morning, September 9, at about 5:30 AM, he goes off base to get coffee in Sierra Vista and meets soldiers wearing 10th Mountain Division patches. They tell him that Joint Task Force Six has continued as Joint Task Force Southern Border (JTF Southern Border) and that a building is being used as a temporary command center. He proceeds to the new JTF headquarters around 7:37 AM and meets two or three men who are friendly. He sees about 12 lieutenant colonels and notes the presence of a key figure who he believes is Brian Harpole. Allegedly, after this the situation escalates. The man is confronted by two captains who escort him out and subject him to a seven-hour interrogation, during which they suspect him of being a spy. He is accused of being a bomb threat due to alleged special forces or EOD connections, and he is gaslit to consider the possibility that he might threaten others or himself. After the interrogation, they conferenced with the base commander, verify that he is not there to spy on the meeting, and decide to send him off post. He drives to Tucson, finds a hotel, then flies home, with a stop in Salt Lake City where his wife mentions Charlie Kirk. The man says he happened to be in the Salt Lake airport when Candace, i.e., Candace Owens, was discussing strange flights, and she mentions Charlie Kirk. He provides documentation: high school diploma, military records, police records, NDAs, and court documents he’s fought to obtain for this story spanning 35 years. He recalls the commander in charge of force protection, whom he could only identify as Captain Neff (about 36, brown hair, gray-haired man with glasses), and he notes an incident number given by the Captain: 8611-2025MPC446, which he believes could be FOIA-requested. He emphasizes that this is not just about one conspiracy but ties to global trafficking and cartels, including potential government involvement at high levels. He says he’s not hiding anymore and that Charlie Kirk’s assassination coverage ties into this larger narrative. He asks for anyone who saw something or knows how to FOIA-request the records to come forward, providing the dates, times, and documents he has shared. He ends by thanking God and noting his intent to pursue further exposure and potential meetings with others connected to the case.

The speaker states they came into contact with industry leaders, technical scientists, active duty and retired military personnel, intelligence officers, generals, admirals, and colonels who directed intelligence at the DIA and CIA. These individuals reached out to the speaker to conduct foreign UAP intelligence analysis and assessment. Based on exposure to classified information, the speaker claims definitively that UAPs are real. The speaker alleges that major world governments, including the United States, China, and Russia, have recovered UAP craft that have landed, crashed, or been found in or outside their territories. These recovered materials have been taken to highly sensitive programs, even more secretive than the Manhattan Project or the modern nuclear weapons industry.