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I'm running out of time. You seem to be pro-vaccine but have started a group, Children's Health Defense, which sells baby clothing with anti-vaccine messages, like "unvaxxed, unafraid" for $26. Can you assure us that your organization will stop selling these products? I have no control over that organization; I resigned from the board. You founded it just a few months ago. Are you supportive of these onesies? I support vaccines and want good science. Will you tell your organization to stop selling those items?

You founded the Children's Health Defense, which is currently selling baby onesies with anti-vaccine messages for $26 each, like "UnFAXed Unafraid" and "No Vax, No Problem." You claim to be pro-vaccine, but this raises questions about your stance. Can you commit to having these products removed from the market? I have no control over that organization; I resigned from the board. You founded it just a few months ago. Are you supportive of these onesies? I support vaccines and want good science to protect our health. Will you ask your organization to stop selling that product? Thank you, mister chairman.

Are you a conspiracy theorist? That label has been used against me to silence tough questions about powerful interests. I pointed out early on that the COVID vaccine didn't prevent transmission or infection, contrary to government claims. I was labeled a conspiracy theorist for saying red dye causes cancer, which the FDA has now banned. I also mentioned that fluoride lowers IQ, and a recent JAMA review confirmed a direct correlation between fluoride exposure and IQ loss. Is there any claim you can say was truly a conspiracy theory, or do you stand by your position?

Parents seek guidance from health leaders regarding vaccine decisions. I want to address a serious matter about character. You were accused of sexual harassment and assault by Eliza Cooney, who was initially hired as a babysitter. When confronted, you mentioned you weren't a "church boy" and acknowledged having "skeletons in your closet." You later texted Ms. Cooney an apology but claimed no memory of her account. Can you respond to these accusations in front of this committee? Did you make unwanted sexual advances toward Ms. Cooney? No, I did not, and that story has been debunked. Why did you apologize then? I apologized for something else. That’s not my understanding. You can read the text she published; it was not for that.

The record that they're gonna rely on to make these decisions? Will you make it transparent for the American people? All the evidence is transparent. All evidence is transparent for the first time in history. You can characterize it any way you want. I quoted them today. What I said was accurate. What you said were lies. Are you saying that the mRNA vaccine has never been associated with myocarditis or pericarditis into I am simply trying to say that the people that you have put on that panel after firing the entire You're evading the question. The senator, they deserve the truth and that's what we're gonna give them for the first time in the history of that agency.

You mentioned wanting to eliminate 600 NIH workers on day one and 2,200 from HHS. Which departments will you cut from? There are 200 political appointees that change with each administration. If you remove those, will you replace them with your appointees? President Biden changed 3,000 employees at HHS. As a potential top health official, will you commit to not firing federal employees working on food safety or cyber protection? There are 91,000 employees. So, will you ensure those working on food safety and cyber security keep their jobs? I commit not to fire anyone doing their job. Will this commitment be based on your opinion or political agenda? It will be based on my opinion. So, it seems those with differing views on vaccines may be at risk of losing their jobs.

Speaker 0 frames the issue as 'the corruption of science' and the 'capture of the agencies' by pharmaceutical industries, stating the goal is to restore integrity and credibility to science. Speaker 1 cites a CDC internal study: 'black boys who got the vaccine on time had a two hundred and sixty percent greater chance of getting an autism diagnosis than children who waited.' He adds that 'The chief chief scientist on that, Doctor. William Thompson, the senior said vaccine safety science at CDC, was ordered to destroy that data. And then they published it without that fact.' Finally, he asserts, 'So, you know that story. And you know of hundreds of stories like that. It happens all the time. We are being lied to by these agencies, and we're gonna change that right now.'

Paul Offit said that I'm going to do everything I can to make vaccines less available and affordable, which will hurt the vaccine infrastructure in this country. I'm supposedly joining hands with Donald Trump to march into measles land. But I'm not going to take away anyone's vaccines. People should be able to get them if they want. I want to give people good science. We don't have good safety studies on almost any of the 72 vaccines mandated for children. HHS admitted there are no pre-licensing safety studies for any of them, except the COVID vaccine. We need to know the risk profiles of these products. We also don't have good data on adverse effects from the COVID vaccine, which is a crime. The CDC's surveillance system captures less than one percent of vaccine injuries. Congress and the National Academy of Sciences have repeatedly ordered the CDC to put together a better vaccine. We will do that right away.

All of this cannot be true. Are you lying to Congress about being pro-vaccine, or did you lie on those podcasts? We have it all on tape. Senator, that statement from the Lex Fridman podcast has been debunked. I was asked if there are safe and effective vaccines, and I said some live virus vaccines are. I also stated that no vaccine is universally safe and effective, as every medicine has individuals who may react negatively, including vaccines. I was interrupted before I could elaborate. I've clarified this multiple times, including on national TV, so bringing it up now is misleading.

Not few doctors. What you're talking about is there's a big difference, senator, between established science and the the scientific establishment, which has been co opted by the pharmacy Hold on. So you're telling me you're telling the American people that the American Medical Association representing hundreds of thousands of people have been co opted and that they should not trust their doctors Are they all corrupt as well? And I'm telling you, the American Heart Association has been co opted by the flu You were brought in for president. You got a billionaire behind it. You received $300,000 from people, not from the industry, people in it as I did, from individuals. You corrupt, president Trump got $3,000,000 Every republican got corporate PAC money for the pharmaceutical industry, democrats as well Everybody is corrupt, but you? Is that what we're looking at? I don't think so. And I think the issue I don't even know

We aim to reverse the chronic disease epidemic and restore the nation's health. The very people dictating our food production and healthcare are those who instigated the crisis in the first place. Many defending this system and pharmaceutical profits are heavily funded. I was asked to clean up corruption and conflict. If confirmed, I recognize the CDC's critical role for Georgia, our country, and global health. Concerns have been raised regarding my previous promotion of "junk science" and potential conflicts of interest due to book deals and vaccine-related lawsuits. People need assurance that I can be independent and science-based. I will support vaccine development and distribution if the evidence supports it. I am aware of vaccine safety data resources, but question the accessibility and integrity of the data.

I raised concerns about investing NIH resources to re-examine the link between the measles vaccine and autism, given the extensive existing research and limited resources. It's impossible to prove a negative, and re-plowing already examined ground distracts from addressing unknown causes or solutions to the chronic disease crisis. We risk children dying from preventable diseases if we keep pretending this link is an issue. I agree that we need to address the rise in autism. While I believe the literature shows no connection between the MMR vaccine and autism, distrust in medicine exists post-pandemic. Providing good data is key to addressing concerns, but I'm unsure what constitutes "good data" when it already exists. The focus should be on pressing childhood health problems like diabetes and obesity, which should be the priorities of the NIH director.

I will comply with all ethical guidelines. However, you are implying that I should not challenge backseat decisions. As Secretary of HHS, Robert Kennedy could undermine vaccines and their manufacturing, potentially profiting while risking children's health. I support vaccines and the childhood schedule, but I prioritize good science. You should clarify that Kennedy has undergone the same ethics review as other nominees and has signed an ethics letter regarding conflicts of interest. While concerns about his financial interests are raised, he has complied with all applicable laws. I cannot confirm if any previous nominee has made millions from suing entities they would regulate, but all nominees face scrutiny over their financial interests, and Kennedy has met the necessary requirements.

Avoid politics; this is about Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who promotes misinformation and conspiracy theories. Experts in the medical community express significant concerns about him potentially taking a role in health, particularly as Secretary of Health and Human Services, which oversees the CDC, FDA, and NIH. His proposals, like cutting funding for infectious diseases, are alarming, especially post-pandemic. While there are valid criticisms of the healthcare system, many of his views are not alternative but false. For instance, the myth linking vaccines to autism has been debunked through extensive studies showing no connection, and some studies even suggest unvaccinated children may have a higher autism risk. These persistent falsehoods are a major concern regarding his influence on public health.

You founded the Children's Health Defense, which is currently selling baby onesies with anti-vaccine messages for $26 each. This raises concerns about your stance on vaccines, especially since you claim to be pro-vaccine. Can you assure us that your organization will stop selling these products? I no longer have any authority over that organization; I resigned from the board. You founded it just a few months ago. Are you supportive of these onesies? I support vaccines and want good science, but I have had nothing to do with those products. So, you won't tell your organization to stop selling them? I support vaccines. Thank you, mister chairman.

Mister Siri, we've been talking about medical issues. You're you're not a medical doctor, are you? No, sir. And you're not an immuno immunologist or biologist or any kind of Or vaccinologist. No. But I depose them regularly including the world's leading ones with regards to vaccines and I have to make my claims based on actual evidence when I go to court with regards to vaccines. I don't get to rely on titles. Okay.

Dr James Dunchwander, a physician with dual board certifications in emergency and integrative medicine, has spent 32 years evaluating thousands of children. He notes that parents, to their dying breath, say a vaccine caused their child to descend into autism, or a vaccine caused their child's neurologic disorder, asthma, eczema, or food allergy. He acknowledges a huge disconnect between what these parents are telling us and what is taught in the field. As an ER physician, he warns that ignoring mom or dad is perilous, but he is not here today to debate the safety and efficacy of vaccines. He will, however, challenge each member of the room to that debate and challenge the CDC, the NIH, and any university to a public forum, but he believes it will never happen because “The science isn't there.” He states that the biggest cause of vaccine hesitancy in this country is the lack of true vaccine science. He asks the committee to please the community council and to do their job. He admits he used to naively think that ASAP based all their recommendations on rigorous study of multiple trials determining safety and efficacy, but has since learned that ASAP is simply participating in an industry-wide phenomenon he terms junk science. He contends that junk science has allowed, with respect to colleagues in the room, the presentation of papers and studies that would never pass the rigors of a peer-reviewed journal if they were on any subject other than vaccines. He cites an example: a GSK paper on their MMR vaccine in which ten percent of these healthy 12-year-old babies ended up in an emergency room in six weeks, and two and a half percent of them developed a new chronic medical condition. He notes this was not compared to a placebo group or a delayed vaccine group, but to the current MMR two vaccine, describing the situation as the moral equivalent of comparing ten shots of whiskey to nine shots of whiskey and a shot of vodka, and saying vodka doesn’t cause intoxication. He also asserts that junk science allows vaccines we know don’t work to be doubled down, increasing the dose and frequency. He recalls seeing the committee in the last meeting look at the pneumococcal vaccine and say it doesn’t work, yet leave it on the schedule and leave it up to clinicians to determine whether to give it to a patient. He finishes by stating, “Please do your job.”

the corruption of science, which I believe you just said. That is almost your number one goal. Right? Is try to bring integrity and credibility back to science, which has been corrupted by the people who pay for it, by federal health agencies being captured by pharmaceutical industries, by big pharma, by big food. In 02/2002, CDC did an internal study of Atlanta, Fulton County, Georgia children looked at children who got the MLR vaccine on time and compared those to kids who got them later. The data from that study showed that black boys who got the vaccine on time had a two sixty percent greater chance of getting an autism diagnosis than children who waited. The chief scientist on that, Doctor. William Thompson, the senior vaccine safety science at CDC, was ordered to come into a room with four other co authors by his boss, Frank DeStefano, who’s the head of the immunization safety press, ordered to destroy that data. And then they published it without that fact. It happens all the time. We are being lied to by these agencies. And we're going to change that right now.

"Senator: 'We discovered is that Anthony Fauci was destroying federal records. He was encouraging other people to destroy federal records. That is a crime.' He testified to the house a year ago and said he wasn't doing that. 'That's a crime to perjure himself.' 'We will bring him back. I've asked him to come and testify this fall. If he doesn't come voluntarily, we will subpoena him.' 'The question is, is he immune because of the pardon? I think that that needs to be challenged in court.' 'I have encouraged the Trump administration that they should prosecute this case and challenge the auto pen. I don't think the auto pen is sufficient.' 'There were so many pardons that I'm not sure Biden was aware of all the people he did pardon.' 'There is not a direct link from the person running the auto pen to the president. The person that was running the auto pen never spoke with the president.' 'And I think a president's signature on something so as important as legislation or a pardon is absolutely required.'" "Susan Monarez will testify before the senate HELP committee tomorrow. This will be her first appearance since being ousted from the role. She will be joined by Deb Aury, a former chief medical officer and deputy director who was one of four CDC officials who resigned after Monarez was ousted." "The chair with the president of Moderna ... I asked him about the expectation that he'll be getting a lot less revenue from the vaccine for COVID perhaps this time around. The scientific evidence shows that the risks of taking the COVID vaccine for children exceeds the benefits, and the scientific evidence is abundant on this. There's a study out of Israel that showed that about six to eight kids 20 that are healthy will get an inflammation of the heart that is very dangerous, and that risk exceeds the benefits of a vaccine. Every kid at six months needs to get a COVID vaccination, and that defies the scientific evidence and shows me that she's not objective. It's the same with the hepatitis B vaccine. Unless the mom has hepatitis B vaccine, disease, there is no indication for the vaccine at birth, and we need to readdress that."

I'm asking if you will agree not to sue drug companies. I'm not agreeing to that. As secretary of HHS, you could influence lawsuits in many ways, such as promoting anti-vaccine views, appointing like-minded individuals, or changing vaccine schedules and compensation rules. You could even share FDA data with law firms for their benefit. I'm asking you to commit not to financially benefit from these lawsuits while serving as secretary. I will comply with ethical guidelines. You're trying to undermine vaccines. As secretary, you could harm vaccine access while profiting from it. I support vaccines and the childhood schedule; I just want good science. Then say you won't profit from your role as secretary.

My responsibility is to assess your trustworthiness in supporting public health. We share concerns about issues like ultra-processed food and obesity, and I understand parents want reassurance about vaccine safety and effectiveness. However, our approaches differ; I rely on the preponderance of evidence, while you seem to use selective evidence to create doubt. As a 71-year-old who has long criticized vaccines, can you change your stance now that you hold a key position in vaccine policy? Your declaration that vaccines are safe could significantly impact public trust. Politically, as a Republican from Louisiana, I want President Trump's policies to succeed. If someone remains unvaccinated due to your influence and dies from a vaccine-preventable disease, it would not only be a tragedy but also tarnish the President's legacy, which I hope to see shine.

I cannot understand how anyone can recommend the mRNA vaccination and sleep well at night. They seem afraid to admit they were wrong. I want to give you a chance to address your colleagues, fellow pathologists, and medical professionals. My advice is to always question what so-called experts say. You don't need top scientists, you need experienced doctors who think critically. In the past, people died from the flu without it being turned into a pandemic or locking people away.

As Secretary of HHS, you could influence lawsuits related to vaccines in several ways. You might publish anti-vaccine views on government letterhead, appoint like-minded individuals to vaccine panels, or instruct the CDC to remove specific vaccines from schedules. Additionally, you could alter compensation programs to expose manufacturers to lawsuits, expand eligibility for compensation without causal evidence, and modify vaccine court processes to facilitate frivolous lawsuits. You could also share FDA data with law firms for their benefit, change vaccine labeling, and adjust claims in the vaccine injury compensation program. I urge you to commit to not having a financial stake in these lawsuits to avoid conflicts of interest. I will comply with all ethical guidelines. That's not the question. You are implying I should not serve in vaccine-related roles. No one should be misled here.

One major controversy in your candidacy is your stance on childhood vaccines, which many medical organizations deem safe and effective. An audience member highlights that vaccines have eradicated diseases like chicken pox and polio and expresses concern about your message potentially endangering public health. You clarify that you are not anti-vaccine but believe vaccines should undergo safety testing like other medications. You argue that none of the 72 mandated vaccine doses for children have been subjected to prelicensing placebo-controlled trials. You recount a meeting with Dr. Fauci, where you requested evidence of such studies, but none was provided. You assert that without these safety studies, the long-term risks of vaccines remain unknown.

Speaker 0 argues that 'the trustworthiness of the information that we actually receive from the news media' is a major problem and notes that 'the easiest thing for our democratic colleagues to do is to scare people.' He asks, 'COVID nineteen was politicized?' Speaker 1 answers, 'the whole process was politicized' and says 'we were lied to about everything... the vaccines would prevent transmission' and 'they prevent infection'—claims he says are contradicted by 'the animal studies and the clinical trial showed.' He accuses the CDC of letting 'the teachers union' write school-closure orders that 'hurt working people all over the country, and then pretend it was science based.' He adds examples: 'Martin Koldor from Harvard' was 'ejected [from COVID]... because he wasn't in the orthodoxy'; 'FDA during COVID' officials 'Gruber and Krausz' criticized Biden mandates; Biden said, 'I would never take that vaccine, the Trump vaccine' then mandated it and fired top FDA officials who said it had not been properly tested.' The exchange ends with 'Yes.'