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In June 2018, the then SCC Director of Corporation Finance, William Hinman, gave a speech declaring that a token is not a security when it becomes sufficiently decentralized. However, internal emails and documents reveal that senior SEC officials warned Hinman that his speech was not in line with the law and would cause more confusion in the markets. Despite these warnings, Hinman ignored them and included factors beyond those identified by the Supreme Court in the Howey case. The SEC's own general counsel also disagreed with Hinman's beliefs. Despite knowing that the speech didn't follow the law and would create confusion, the SEC still promoted it. The reasons behind this and the SEC's policy of regulation by enforcement remain unclear.

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The speaker asks if the SEC will review Ethereum's ICO and questions if there is a double standard. The other speaker says they cannot discuss potential investigations or rumors. The first speaker then asks if the second speaker is aware of anything at the SEC that they could be a whistleblower for, to which the second speaker declines to comment.

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Gary Gensler and the SEC are driving projects to decentralize themselves. The SEC's involvement creates a context of concern and encourages projects to be regulatory compliant. The SEC has stated that Ether is not a security and has focused on consumer utility tokens. Despite this, the SEC is still vigilant and aware. Ethereum is seen as a highly decentralized network, making the application of securities laws unnecessary. The SEC would now shut down a sale structure like the EOS sale before it even starts. Overall, the video emphasizes the importance of regulatory compliance and the SEC's role in the ecosystem.

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During the hearing, the speaker questioned the witness about a speech given by Bill Hinman, the former director of the SEC's division of corporation finance. The witness confirmed that she reviewed drafts of the speech and suggested providing less detail to generate more discussion. The speaker then asked if the current SEC chair shares this view, but the witness couldn't testify about the chair's opinion. The speaker also inquired if Finhub, where the witness works, has issued any guidance on crypto since Chair Gensler took office, to which the witness didn't provide a clear answer. The speaker then mentioned the SEC's arguments in court regarding the speech and accused the SEC of not adhering to the law. The witness couldn't comment on pending litigation.

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The chairman of the CFTC states that Bitcoin is considered a commodity and will be regulated as such. He also announces that Ether, the second largest cryptocurrency, is also a commodity and will fall under their jurisdiction. He explains that most things are commodities unless they are securities, which are regulated by the SEC. He encourages people to refer to the SEC's analysis to determine if a crypto asset is a security. The chairman believes that there may be ether-related futures contracts and derivatives in the near future. He mentions that there is interest in regulated platforms for exploring ether futures, and it is possible that they could be introduced within the next 12 months.

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The Hinman speech supports full decentralization, aligning with my memo. It states that Bitcoin and ether can be exempted from being classified as securities if they are fully decentralized. This is a straightforward case, like a book, where there is no central issuer. Testing for full decentralization is relatively simple when there is no real issuer involved.

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The speaker expresses concern about the term "investment contract" and its potential for arbitrary enforcement in the context of cryptocurrency. They question whether an investment contract requires an actual contract and refer to the Supreme Court's definition, which includes an investment of money in a common enterprise with anticipated profits from the efforts of others. The speaker argues that a scheme or transaction does not necessarily mean the absence of a contract, citing the SEC v. Howie case as an example. They challenge the other speaker to provide a Supreme Court case that found an investment contract without an actual contract, but the other speaker fails to do so. The conversation also touches on the question of whether purchasing a Pokemon card or a tokenized Pokemon card on a digital exchange constitutes a security transaction.

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The speaker raises concerns about the lack of clarity in determining which digital assets are securities. They reference a letter from Prometheum, signed by Benjamin S. Caplan, co-CEO, which highlights the burden on the industry and the need for regulatory framework clarity. The speaker questions Mr. Caplan on the change in Prometheum's stance since the letter. Mr. Caplan mentions that enforcement actions and statements by the SEC have provided more clarity on the designation of digital assets as securities. The speaker then questions why Prometheum's customers cannot trade popular digital assets like ether and bitcoin. Mr. Caplan explains that regulation and new ATSs and custodians should proceed gradually. The speaker concludes that legislation is needed to address the lack of a consistent definition of a digital asset security.

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The Hinman emails have been released, leading to calls for an investigation. The SEC has filed a lawsuit against Coinbase and charges against Binance for selling unlicensed securities, specifically XRP. The speaker, who has experience in the private sector, mentions the riskiness of discussing certain topics. They also state that there is no need for more digital currency as it already exists. Lastly, they briefly touch on the topic of dinosaurs.

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In this video, Speaker 0 questions Mr. Gensler about regulatory uncertainty and whether large institutions benefit more from it. Speaker 0 also highlights Mr. Gensler's career at Goldman Sachs and questions his impartiality as the head of the SEC. Speaker 0 asks if digital assets are operating illegally and if Mr. Gensler's concerns about crypto relate to bank executives' worries. Speaker 0 mentions a court ruling that decentralized technology eliminates middlemen and questions if Mr. Gensler's regulation style hampers digital asset innovation. Speaker 0 accuses Mr. Gensler of consolidating power and harming everyday Americans. Speaker 1 defends his actions, citing fraud and manipulation in the crypto field. Speaker 0 concludes by criticizing Mr. Gensler's loyalty to large financial institutions and the negative impact on innovation and competition.

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The speaker is asked if the SEC will review Ethereum's ICO and if there is a double standard. The speaker responds that they cannot discuss potential investigations or rumors. They are then asked if they are aware of anything at the SEC that they could be a whistleblower for, to which they reply that they cannot comment on that question.

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Bill Hinman's speech on evaluating digital assets as securities is available on the website.

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My amendment aims to stop Chair Gensler's regulatory abuse at the SEC, particularly towards the digital assets industry. It prohibits the SEC from using funds for enforcement activities related to digital asset transactions until Congress passes legislation giving the SEC jurisdiction over this asset class. Chair Gensler has pursued enforcement actions against the industry without providing clear rules or guidelines for compliance. He has targeted companies like Coinbase while missing bad actors like FTX and Terra Luna. The SEC lacks jurisdiction over digital assets but tries to expand its authority through regulation by enforcement. Congress is working on legislation to establish a framework for classifying digital assets. This amendment sends a signal that unelected bureaucrats will be held accountable and that Congress should determine the future of digital asset innovation.

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Regulators have already made their stance clear on Ethereum. The SEC and CFTC in the US have both stated that Ethereum is not a security but rather a commodity. This conclusion is widely accepted, although there may be a few regulators who still refuse to acknowledge it. However, their opinion doesn't hold much significance.

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The SEC and Gary Gensler believe most cryptocurrencies are unregistered securities. However, I have previously stated that Ethereum is a commodity, as confirmed by the FCC and CFTC on multiple occasions. While Gary has expressed his belief that many tokens are securities, he acknowledges the need for proper demonstration. Despite being offered opportunities to publicly share his views, I don't think he is comfortable declaring Ether not a security. Therefore, I maintain my conviction that Ether is indeed a commodity.

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The speaker expresses frustration over the lack of an ETF for Bitcoin in the past, believing it could have created significant wealth for Americans. They argue that regulators prevented the American people from benefiting, as the wealth ended up in the hands of international entities. While supporting sensible regulation, the speaker believes that the current situation is not in America's best interest. They highlight America's history of innovation and entrepreneurialism and express concern that regulators are stifling innovation by enforcing regulations instead of creating them. The speaker hopes that regulators will focus on enforcing existing laws rather than creating new ones.

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The speaker expresses concern about the term "investment contract" and its potential for arbitrary enforcement in the context of cryptocurrency. They question whether an investment contract requires an actual contract and refer to the Supreme Court case of SEC v. Howie, which involved multiple contracts. The speaker challenges the idea that a scheme or transaction must be without a contract to qualify as an investment contract. They ask the other speaker to cite a Supreme Court or 2nd Circuit case that found an investment contract without an actual contract, but the other speaker is unable to do so. The conversation also touches on the definition of a security transaction and the role of tokenization.

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The speakers discuss whether a certain entity should be registered as a BD and if their offerings are securities. Speaker 0 states that they don't have enough information to make a conclusion. Speaker 1 agrees with Commissioner Levin and believes that the entity should be registered because one of their offerings, Ethereum, was considered a security in 2014. Speaker 1 mentions the Howey Test and questions if something that was once a security can transform into something else. They acknowledge that this is an interesting challenge for the Securities and Exchange Commission. Speaker 1 concludes by stating their position on the matter.

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In 2013, as Bitcoin was gaining popularity, a securities attorney examined it as a financial instrument and saw the need for frameworks to support its growth. In 2014, they submitted a no-action letter to the SEC, seeking permission to trade Bitcoin on an ATS in a brokerage account. They continued to focus on applying distributed ledger technology to the securities industry. The catalyst for starting their company came in 2017 when the SEC indicated that federal securities laws applied to digital assets. Their goal was to build a public market and custodial infrastructure for digital assets under the federal securities laws. The DAO report, released in July 2017, provided clarity on the matter.

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The speaker discussed the council's focus on digital assets and the risks associated with them, such as runs on crypto asset platforms and stable coins. They emphasized the need for enforcing applicable rules and regulations and called for legislation to regulate stable coins and the spot market for non-securities crypto assets. The speaker expressed their willingness to engage with Congress on these matters and invited questions from the audience.

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Chair of the SEC, Gary Gensler, evades questions on whether Ether and Ethereum are commodities or securities. Despite claims of clarity in the market, he fails to provide clear answers to Congress. Accusations of avoiding oversight and rushing decisions are made, highlighting a lack of transparency in regulatory processes.

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The speaker discusses the uncertainty surrounding court cases involving XRP and Ripple. They mention that the SEC seems to be leaving the decisions to the courts, which will determine whether these tokens are considered securities or commodities. The speaker highlights the importance of clarifying the status of utility tokens and suggests that the SEC should have provided clearer guidelines. They acknowledge that the court system may be the most appropriate way to resolve these issues. The speaker also raises questions about investment contracts in the crypto space and the challenges of determining what information is material to token holders. Overall, the speaker emphasizes the complexity of transitioning investment contracts to non-security transactions.

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The Hinman documents have been released, leading to calls for an investigation. The SEC has filed a lawsuit against Coinbase and charges against Binance for selling unlicensed securities, specifically XRP. The speaker, who has experience in the private sector, mentions the riskiness of discussing certain topics. They also express the opinion that we don't need more digital currency as it already exists. Lastly, they briefly mention dinosaurs.

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Gary Gensler and the SEC are driving decentralization in the ecosystem. The SEC's involvement ensures regulatory compliance and encourages projects to do their legal homework. The SEC has deemed Ether decentralized and not a security. They are aware and vigilant, shutting down sales structures like EOS before they can launch. Despite this, the speaker believes it's important for the SEC to show they are watching. The speaker mentions their familiarity with people at the SEC, including Hester Pierce. Overall, they appreciate the SEC's efforts in the space.

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The speaker acknowledges that Bitcoin is not a security and that there is demand from both retail and institutional investors for access to it. They believe that approval of a Bitcoin ETF is inevitable, as the dichotomy between futures and cash products cannot continue indefinitely. The SEC has been given time to reassess and find reasons to reject the applications, but the speaker does not see any strong grounds for rejection. They mention that Chair Gensler is being scrutinized for potentially looking for ways to reject the applications despite the existence of a futures ETF. However, they also note that there is a 45-day time period for progress to be made on this issue.
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