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To restore balance between the US and Israel and sane public conversation, the speaker says we must get our theology right. This message is aimed at Christians—the largest group of Israel supporters in the US—whose view is colored by a Christian heresy: that God prefers some people based on DNA. The chosen people, he argues, are 'the people who choose Jesus' and that is the universal Christian message. He cites Lindsey Graham and others, calling this 'not Christianity' and 'heresy.' Examples: 'Israel is our friend. They're the most reliable friend we have in the Mideast.' 'This is not a hard choice if you're an American.' 'If America pulls the plug on Israel, god will pull the plug on us.' 'God will kill you if you don't support Bibi Netanyahu.' He contends this uses God as a weapon, and 'the killing of the innocent' is forbidden; 'that person is committing heresy.'

Genesis: 'And God said, I will curse those who curse Israel' and 'And through you, I will bless all nations.' These quotes were spoken to Abraham. He asks, 'are Israelites or are Jews still God's chosen people?' and answers, 'No.' He cites Galatians: 'There is neither Jew nor Gentile slave nor free nor is there male or female for you all are one in Christ Jesus.' 'If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise.' He claims this provides 'clear and undeniable evidence from scripture that God said that if you are one in Christ, you are God's people, and you are the seed of Abraham.' He states, 'the modern day Jews that reside in the state of Israel are not God's people. It is the Christians, the people who are one in Christ.' He urges, 'Read these passages, read the context around them, and don't just go based upon one little pluck from the bible to base your entire belief system off of when it comes to who are God's people.'

Speaker 0: The Israelites is not Israel. And as Tony and I are both Catholic, and so when we talk about the Israelites that are talked about in the Bible, there is a clear distinction between this prophecy about the Israelites and the government of Israel and white Europeans settling into the holy land. Mhmm. And so when we say this, like, the Israelites, the Israelites in the bible are actually the Palestinian people who have been there for thousands of years, not the white European from Ukraine or Poland or America. The Israelites are the people who were indigenous to that land that lived there for thousands of years, and those are not the people who have Trump wrapped around his finger. It's this, like, settler colonial white Europeans that have settled into the land of the actual Israelites that have either blackmailed him or cut deals with him financially. I mean, we go back to greed. Right? Greed is always, like, a big factor decisions. So Trump, in all senses, is wrapped in intertwined with this government and the Zionist regime and the Rothschilds and the Vanderbilts and the 13 rich families that control the world, basically. Right.

America must consider the price of its alliance with Israel and how it has benefited. Contrary to claims that supporting Israel blesses America, the speaker argues that Christian Zionism is a heresy originating from the Scofield Bible and fueled by televangelists. The speaker claims Jews lost their chosen status by rejecting Jesus, transferring it to Christians. Despite trillions of dollars in American aid, the speaker suggests America has not been blessed. They cite the rise of LGBT values, abortion, economic decline due to open borders and mass immigration, and increased crime and drug abuse as evidence. The speaker claims Tel Aviv is the gay capital of the world and corrupts other nations. The speaker claims real Christians, including those in occupied Palestine, reject Christian Zionism, citing the Jerusalem Declaration. The speaker concludes that Christian Zionism is a satanic cult that has cost America lives and treasure. The speaker urges Christians to stand with Jesus and act accordingly.

The speaker claims that the "Zionist occupation of Palestine that calls itself Israel" is built on lies and theft, having stolen the name "Israel." The name originates from the Old Testament, where Jacob was renamed Israel, and his descendants were the Israelites. Those who accepted covenants with God were part of the House of Israel, later the Christian Church established by Jesus. Rejecters of Jesus were the Jews, a pejorative term for those who rejected Christ. The speaker asserts that the true Israel is the Church, not a birthright or DNA privilege. Christian Zionists are deceived in believing today's Jews are still in covenant with God from the old covenant with Abraham. The speaker rejects Calvinist theology and predestination. In 1948, Zionists stole the name Israel to mislead evangelicals and religious Jews. Only religious fanatics in Puritan circles supported Zionism, misinterpreting scriptures. The speaker believes evangelicals are not Christians, the chosen people are not chosen, and Israel is not Israel. The true Israel is a spiritual fellowship of people with faith who follow Jesus. The Zionist occupation is a Jewish military dictatorship that has fooled religious fanatics and the secular masses.

'You taught there's still God's chosen people? Yes. The New Testament says the nation of Israel is no longer God's people. The people of God is the church.' 'They're not God's chosen people.' 'The vineyard is what? Israel. And the tenants, the vinedressers are the rulers, right?' 'And their last chance, their last hope of getting it right was what? The owner who's God the Father do as their last chance to get right. He sent his son last of all, right?' 'So then Jesus already says their what response will be? They'll kill him.' 'When they kill him, what is God gonna do? Therefore, I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you From who?' 'The Israelite.' 'Yeah. So why would you say they're God chosen people? Jesus said, when you kill me and reject me, the kingdom will be taken away from you.'

You can't be a Christian and anti-Jewish, as Jesus was Jewish. However, being pro-Israel implies being pro-Zionist. The belief that the Jewish people are still God's chosen people is incorrect. The New Testament indicates that the church is now God's people. The parable of the vineyard illustrates that Israel's leaders rejected God's son, leading to the kingdom being taken away from them. Therefore, the idea that the Israelites remain God's chosen people contradicts Jesus' message about their rejection.

To restore balance between the United States and Israel, the speaker says we must get our theology right. This is not a message aimed at Israelis or Jews; it targets Christians, the largest group of Israel supporters in the United States. He calls the belief that God favors some people by DNA 'the oldest of the Christian heresies' and says, 'The chosen people are people who choose Jesus.' He declares, 'That is not Christianity. It is heresy.' He warns that if America pulls the plug on Israel, god will pull the plug on us, and, 'God will kill you if you don't support Bibi Netanyahu.' He argues that 'The Christian message is universal' and that, 'If you find anyone leveraging the message of Jesus to justify the killing of innocents, that person is committing heresy.'

The speaker emphasizes that the conflict in Israel is not due to religious differences. They argue that the state of Israel does not represent all Jews or the Jewish religion. According to Jewish beliefs, creating a sovereign state through violence and oppression is forbidden. The speaker criticizes those who misuse religion to justify crimes. They believe that the root cause of the conflict is the oppressive occupation of an entire people. The speaker advises Israeli leaders to end the occupation and return the land to the indigenous population.

The speaker discusses how the Rothschilds influenced the creation of a new Bible to support a political Israel. They highlight the misunderstanding of God's promise to Abraham, emphasizing a spiritual kingdom over a physical one. The true descendants of Abraham are those who walk faithfully with God, not a political nation. This spiritual seed is what defines Israel, not a physical lineage. The speaker emphasizes the importance of faith and spiritual connection over political and military agendas.

Speaker 0 believes Christians are biblically commanded to support Israel, based on the idea that those who bless Israel will be blessed. Speaker 1 questions if this refers to the modern political entity of Israel, with its current borders and leadership, as opposed to the Jewish people. Speaker 0 affirms that the biblical reference to Israel does indeed refer to the modern nation-state, which he says is the same nation of Israel spoken about in Genesis. Speaker 1 expresses skepticism, suggesting that most people interpret the Genesis passage as referring to the Jewish people, not necessarily the political entity of modern Israel.

Speaker 0 states their support for Israel stems from a biblical teaching: those who bless Israel will be blessed. Speaker 1 questions if this refers to the modern government of Israel. Speaker 0 clarifies the Bible refers to the nation of Israel. Speaker 1 asks for a definition of Israel, questioning if it means the current political entity run by Benjamin Netanyahu, and Speaker 0 confirms that it does. Speaker 1 suggests the Genesis verse refers to the Jewish people, but Speaker 0 disagrees. Speaker 1 points out Speaker 0 cannot cite the exact scripture. Speaker 0 says they are explaining their personal motivation, not saying all Christians must support the modern state of Israel. Speaker 1 summarizes Speaker 0's position as being based on a Bible verse they cannot locate.

Amid concerns about violence against Christians and attacks on Christian sites, a Christian speaker questions why some Christians support the state of Israel. He discusses the influence of dispensationalism, a theology that connects certain verses of the Bible to the modern state of Israel, and how it has been promoted through the Scofield Bible. The guest, Alison Weir, explains that many Christians are misled by the US media's portrayal of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and highlights the suffering of Palestinians living in Gaza. She also addresses the manipulation of fear and hatred towards Muslims and emphasizes the need for accurate information and understanding.

"As Christians support the government of Israel, we are commanded to support Israel." "It says that those who bless you, Abraham, this was before Israel, will be blessed by God." "And those who curse you, Abraham, will be cursed by God." "For not all who are born into the nation of Israel are truly members of God's people." "Being descendants of Abraham doesn't make them truly Abraham's children." "Israel didn't have a nation or a land to call their own for almost two thousand years since the destruction of the temple in the year seventy AD." "The nation of Israel was recreated through some political operatives after World War II." "I think the scripture makes it clear that it's about whether you're blessing or cursing the true children of Abraham, those who believe the promises of the gospel."

Many Americans are convinced that ethnic Jews are God's, "chosen people." Glenn Beck, the prominent political commentator, wrote this week, "heavenly father, please protect Israel and her people, your chosen people." Galatians three seven through nine: "know then that it is those of faith who are the sons of Abraham." Why is this important? Because many Americans like Glenn Beck look to faithless, ethnic Jews and believe they are God's chosen people and heirs of the covenant. It's exactly how a Pharisee would see it. We are God's covenant people because we are born of Abraham. No, sir. Unless you have the faith of Abraham, you are not an heir of the covenant.

Bible is crystal clear. Jesus said to the Jews, the kingdom of God shall be taken from you and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. In the Old Testament, Israel was God's chosen people. God chose Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and he used the nation of Israel as a pattern; they were supposed to be a light to Gentiles. They failed in that mission. The Lord Jesus Christ came as the Messiah, and he came unto his own and his own received him not. The Bible squarely places the blame for the death of Jesus on the Jews. In Acts, the Romans protect Christians, while the Jews try to rip them apart and stone them; Romans restore law and order. This is why I reject Zionism and being pro Israel. I read the Bible cover to cover, 20 times, and I didn't see it because you're brainwashed.

In a world influenced by emotions, it's vital to seek objective truth, especially regarding the identity of the Jews and their biblical significance. The term "Jew" originally referred to those from the tribe of Judah, while the broader biblical narrative includes many other tribes and nations. Historical context reveals that many who identify as Jews today may not be direct descendants of ancient Israelites. The covenant with Abraham was fulfilled in Christ, who established a new spiritual reality through the church, not a physical nation. The true chosen people are those who have faith in Christ, transcending ethnic and historical boundaries. The modern state of Israel and contemporary Jewish identity do not align with the biblical definition of God's chosen people, which is rooted in faith and grace rather than lineage or ethnicity.

I want to address who pro-Zionists are and clarify some common misconceptions. Being pro-Israel isn't about being anti-Jewish, as Jesus himself was Jewish. However, the New Testament indicates that the nation of Israel is no longer God's chosen people; that title now belongs to the church. True Jews are those who follow the Lord's laws and ethics in their hearts, not just outwardly. In fact, those who reject Jesus are like the sons of Hagar, not of Sarah. There's neither Jew nor Gentile, but Christ, and Christ's kingdom doesn't favor any human government, and we shouldn't prioritize any nation over Christ. When we see children being killed, whether Israeli or Palestinian, it breaks Jesus' heart. We should be pro-Jesus and his kingdom and remember our brothers and sisters in Christ, even Palestinian Christians.

Pastor Anderson claims that the Jews are not God's chosen people in the New Testament, but rather Christians are, regardless of nationality. He asserts the modern nation of Israel is a fraud and has been replaced by a spiritual nation of believers. He references Ephesians 2:11, which states that Gentiles were once aliens to Israel but are now made near by the blood of Christ. Verse 19 says believers are no longer strangers but fellow citizens with the saints. Anderson interprets this to mean that believers are now citizens of Israel. He concludes that this scripture proves that Christians in the New Testament are the chosen people of God and that unbelieving Jews are under God's wrath and have been replaced by believers as the holy nation.

The speaker challenges the idea of being "pro-Israel" or pro-Zionist, asserting it stems from a misinterpretation of the Bible and dispensationalism. They claim the New Testament indicates the nation of Israel is no longer God's chosen people, but rather the church. Using biblical passages, the speaker argues that the kingdom of God was taken from the Israelites after they rejected Jesus. They state that believers in Jesus, regardless of ethnicity (Jew or Gentile), are the true seed of Abraham and heirs to the promise. The speaker contends that earthly Jerusalem lost its significance after rejecting Jesus, replaced by the heavenly Jerusalem. They equate Zionism with being anti-gospel and anti-Christian. The speaker questions favoring Israeli children over Palestinian children, asserting Jesus loves all equally. They believe those who die in Christ are perfected and united in love in Jesus' presence, transcending earthly divisions.

The speaker asserts that Israel is not Israel and that the Zionists steal everything, including property and food. The Zionist occupation of Palestine, which calls itself Israel, is described as built on lies and theft and evil, with the name Israel stolen and misappropriated to deceive the world. The name supposedly originates from the Old Testament: Jacob, renamed Israel, had twelve tribes, and over time covenants with God defined who was in the House of God or Israel, later associated with the Church of the Desert. Crystallizing through Jesus, those who accepted the New Covenant were grafted into this House of God, becoming the Christian church established by Jesus and his apostles at Pentecost, before the New Testament was written, completed, and canonized. Those who rejected the covenant were deprived of salvation, and most outspoken rejecters of Jesus were Jews, though some Jews accepted Christ and entered the New Covenant, becoming Christians. The speaker denies the existence of a Messianic Jew, asserting it is fraudulent, a Jew who wants to retain privileges while posing as a Christian. In the New Testament, “ Jew ” is presented as a pejorative term for those who rejected Christ in favor of Barabbas, with Romans presenting Jesus’ crucifixion after Judeans chose Barabbas. Some prefer the term Pharisee to avoid antisemitism accusations. Through Christ, God opened up Israel to everyone, while Israel itself remained the same, though evangelism was not initially part of God’s plan; Jesus later instructed his apostles to spread the Word to all humanity. Gentiles were grafted into the house of Israel, i.e., the Christian Church, and the true Israel is the Church. Salvation is not a birthright; bloodline does not grant spiritual privilege, and entering Heaven requires effort amid temptation. A covenant has terms and conditions that must be adhered to, and if not, the contract is void. This is criticized as a mistake by Christian Zionists, who allegedly ignore this. The speaker questions whether today’s Jews are actual descendants of Abraham, noting that behavior matters and a contract requires mutual respect; God keeps his promises, but man does not. The discussion moves to Jesus as Messiah and the Logos Incarnate, denying that Jews today are God’s chosen people or that there is divine DNA or a birthright. Calvinist predestination is condemned as biological determinism, implying questions about free will and the relevance of behavior. The Enlightenment and Darwinian theory are cited as developments following Reformation-driven shifts toward determinism and new denominations, implying a lack of verifiable genetic continuity between modern Jews and ancient Israelites and stressing that behavior remains irrelevant to such claims. Fast forward to 1948, when Zionists established a state under the name Israel, described as stolen to mislead evangelicals and religious Jews within the Zionist movement. The claim is made that Zionism arose from Judaism, with early Jewish advocates like Moses Hess and his work Rome and Jerusalem supporting a Jewish state as an alliance between secular and religious Jews. The speaker contends that Christians who supported Zionism were not truly Christian, and that Protestant splintering led to divisions, Judaization of many groups, and efforts to witness the arrival of messiahs. A spiritual conflict is described where evangelicals, not true Christians, support a “chosen people” and a regime calling itself Israel. The true Israel, the speaker concludes, is not a territory or physical location but a spiritual fellowship of people who follow Jesus. The Zionist occupation of Palestine, named Israel since 1948, is described as a Jewish military dictatorship masquerading as a country, fooling both religious and secular audiences, with control of media and Hollywood obscuring the truth. The claim ends with an analogy: a name does not make something real, just as a person can call himself Jesus but not be the Messiah. A counterfeit dollar is used as a comparison.

The speaker claims that several common beliefs about Jews are false: that they are God's chosen people, that Israel is their homeland, that they believe in the Old Testament, and that the Old Testament is about them. The speaker asserts that the term "anti-Semite" is misused, as Semites include Assyrians, Babylonians, and Persians, not just Jews. Abraham was a Hebrew, not a Jew, and God promised he'd be the father of many nations. The Abrahamic blessing passed to Jacob (Israel), whose son Judah fathered the Jewish people. However, Israel favored Joseph, whose sons Ephraim and Manasseh received the Abrahamic blessing. The speaker says that the Jewish homeland, Israel, was originally Canaan, inhabited by immoral Canaanites. After a civil war, Jews ruled Judea, while Joseph's sons ruled the Northern Kingdom of Israel. The Jews were later conquered by Babylonians and Romans, leading to revolts and banishment. The speaker alleges that Jews don't truly believe in the Old Testament, prioritizing the Talmud, which contains disparaging remarks about Jesus and Christians. The speaker concludes that the Old Testament isn't primarily about Jews, as many figures like Moses and Paul were not Jewish. The speaker states that the Bible encompasses the history of various nations, not just the Jews.

"He wasn't a Palestinian teacher. He was a Jewish teacher with a Jewish name, Yeshua." The speakers stress Jesus' Jewish context: the world of Jesus was a Jewish world, and he taught in a synagogue using the Hebrew scriptures, the Old Testament. They argue Christianity rests on the Hebrew Bible and that the New Testament is a Jewish document; the first Jews and first Christians were all Jews, and the New Testament was written by Jews. Key claims include "Salvation is of the Jews" and that everything Christians have was given by the Jewish people. Jesus kept the law of Moses and did not come to destroy it but to fulfill it. The Messiah is Jewish—the King of the Jews. They condemn replacement theology and urge standing with Israel, Zionism, and that the throne of David will be on Mount Zion.

A speaker identifying themselves as Jewish with critical thinking skills questions where information comes from and asks to see sources. They reference opening the Torah and reading the story of how Jewish people ended up in Israel, then challenge the audience about Abraham’s origins and knowledge of his story. They state that Abraham comes from what is now present-day Iraq, and they question what the story with Abraham, the Jewish people, and God is. They assert that Jewish people are not indigenous to Israel and recount a version of the biblical narrative: God speaks to Abraham and offers a present of “free land” for the Jewish people, telling Abraham to take them to a land filled with milk and honey, and that Abraham leads the people there. They ask what happens when they get to Israel and note that there were already people there. They claim that God told Abraham to slaughter and expel those people from the land, identifying those people as the indigenous inhabitants. The speaker condemns what they describe as others on the app presenting this information as fact, expressing concern that Jewish people themselves may not know their own history or the history of their religion, culture, and land. They juxtapose this with broader historical tragedies, suggesting that if readers have wondered what they would have done during the Holocaust, civil rights movement, slavery, and Canada’s genocide of indigenous people, they should look at what people are doing in the present. They argue that worldwide tragedies and genocide continue because people are afraid to speak out due to social repercussions. Throughout, the speaker emphasizes the following core claims: - Abraham originated from a region corresponding to present-day Iraq, not Israel. - The narrative involves God presenting “free land” to the Jewish people and Abraham leading them to this land. - Upon arrival, the land already had indigenous inhabitants. - The divine instruction attributed to God to Abraham was to slaughter and expel those indigenous people. - Many individuals on the app propagate incorrect historical claims as fact, and some Jewish people may lack awareness of their own historical and religious background. - The speaker connects current fear of speaking out to historical and ongoing acts of mass violence and genocide, urging people to speak out rather than stay silent. The speaker ends by linking contemporary social fear to historical injustices, calling for greater courage to speak out.