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Donald Trump, lacking credibility, is solely focused on his own interests. He is currently facing legal actions. The question is, when will his followers distance themselves from him? Perhaps there should be a formal deprogramming of the cult members, but action needs to be taken.

Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss the Trump administration’s approach to foreign policy and its global impact. - Unpredictability as a negotiation asset: Speaker 0 notes that Trump’s rhetoric is out of the norm and concerning, citing statements about Greenland, Iran, Venezuela, and Gaza. Speaker 1 counters that Trump starts with a very tough position and then moderates it as a negotiation tactic, arguing that unpredictability has value but erodes credibility because “what he says this week will not be what he might do next week or the week after.” - Gaza, Venezuela, and Iran as case studies: Gaza is described as having no peace, only ongoing uncertainty. In Venezuela, Speaker 0 sees a new regime leader working with the old regime, making regime change unlikely; Speaker 1 cautions that Rodriguez would have to dismantle the army and paramilitaries to improve Venezuela, implying changes may be blocked by corruption and drug trafficking networks. In Iran, despite expectations of a strike, Trump did not strike, which Speaker 1 attributes to calculated restraint and the need to avoid provoking Iranian retaliation; Speaker 0 asks why, and Speaker 1 emphasizes the complexity and the risk of escalation. - Domestic and diplomatic capacity under Trump: Speaker 1 argues the administration relies on nontraditional figures (e.g., Jared Kushner, Steve Witkoff) rather than professional diplomats, contributing to a lack of sustained policy execution. He notes the Pentagon, State Department, and National Security Council have been stripped of expertise, with many positions unfilled. He describes diplomacy as being conducted by envoy, with trusted associates who lack deep diplomatic experience. - Global power shifts and alliances: Speaker 1 says unpredictability can undermine US credibility; however, there is a real shift as the US appears to retreat from international engagement. He asserts that Russia and China have lost clients due to various internal and regional dynamics, while the US withdrawal from international organizations has allowed China to gain influence, including within the UN. He predicts that the US could become weaker in the long run relative to its previous position, even if economically stronger domestically. - Regional dynamics and potential alliances: The conversation touches on the theoretical possibility of an Islamic or Middle Eastern NATO-like alliance, led by Pakistan and Saudi Arabia with potential Turkish involvement. Speaker 1 argues that such an alliance would not resemble NATO but that regional powers are likely to form bilateral and regional arrangements to counterbalance major powers like the US, Russia, and China. In the Middle East, Israel is cast as an influential actor shaping regional alignments, with Gulf states wary of Iranian retaliation and crisis spillover. - The Iran crisis and military posture: Speaker 1 explains why Gulf states and Israel did not want an immediate strike on Iran due to the risk of massive retaliation and limited US regional presence at the time. He notes the Abraham Lincoln and George H.W. Bush carrier groups' movements suggest potential future force projection, but states that any strike would likely be small if undertaken given current hardware positioning. He suggests the crisis will continue, with Iran’s internal repression and external deterrence shaping the dynamics. He also points to the 2000 missiles and the IRGC’s scale as factors in regional calculations. - Reflection on impact and timing: The discussion notes the potential for longer-term consequences in US credibility and global influence once Trumpism passes, with the possibility of the US reemerging weaker on the world stage despite possible internal economic strength. Speaker 0 closes with appreciation for the discussion; Speaker 1 agrees.

The January 6th pardons are unacceptable. Notably, President Trump is the only U.S. president to veto a defense bill, which he did in 2020. His reason? He opposed removing Confederate names from military bases, claiming it was a rewriting of history. Recently, he ordered the removal of General Milley's portrait from the joint chiefs of staff wall, which seems contradictory. This raises concerns about what a second term under him would look like and whether it would pose challenges.

Speaker 1 explains his absence from the Fox News debate by citing his significant lead in the polls, questioning the value of being "harassed" by other candidates and a network he deems unfriendly. He criticizes cable news credibility, calling MSNBC "MSDNC" and CNN "dead," and laments Fox's decline after Tucker Carlson's departure. He names Asa Hutchinson and Chris Christie as undeserving presidential candidates. He suggests Bill Barr covered up Jeffrey Epstein's death and didn't investigate election fraud adequately due to impeachment fears. He entertains the possibility that Epstein was killed. Speaker 1 claims the left is trying to kill him and are "sick people" who "hate our country." He falsely states that the 2020 election was rigged and that COVID was used to cheat. He criticizes Joe Biden's mental and physical state, saying he won't make it to the election. He also claims Kamala Harris is senile. He asserts foreign leaders respected the U.S. more when he was president and believes they view Biden with disbelief. He defends his relationship with Kim Jong Un, claiming he prevented nuclear war. He says China controls the Panama Canal and is building military installations in Cuba. He identifies securing the border and removing criminals as top priorities if re-elected. He acknowledges "tremendous passion" and "hatred" in the country, calling it a "bad combination."

The situation revealed significant incompetence, highlighting a major historical event that could have unfolded differently. While some negative outcomes occurred, such as the presence of people in the country who shouldn't be here, the journey began in 2015. From day one, Trump surged to the top and maintained his lead throughout the primaries. We faced Hillary, who appeared unhappy, but ultimately, we defeated her. In 2020, we performed even better, securing millions more votes—around 10 to 12 million additional votes compared to the first election.

If you're a patriotic American who does your research, how could you hate Donald Trump? He's the most popular businessman in American history. Before 2016, he had the most movie cameos. How can he be racist when he won an NAACP award? Didn't we have peace around the world when Trump was in office? Why are we giving Ukraine 60 billion when we have border problems? After the U.S. left a million guns in Afghanistan, Xi Jinping and Putin gave the Taliban legitimacy. Didn't Biden give Putin access to a gas pipeline, and then Putin went to war with Ukraine? Was it a coincidence that Brittney Griner was traded for Victor Boot after that? You voted for this over Trump? You need to wake up.

John Bolton's potential testimony is considered a "stupid sideshow" that won't change Trump's acquittal. Bolton, despite disagreeing with Trump's policies, held a position of power. He is described as a strong advocate for American military power, despite avoiding service in Vietnam. Bolton was allegedly fired for suggesting Libya as a model for North Korea while Trump was trying to diffuse conflict there. It's claimed Bolton would have been happier with Hillary Clinton or George Bush. Despite his known views, he got the job and allegedly filled the National Security Council with "anti-Trumpers" to support his confrontational policies. It's asserted that Bolton was working to undermine the president and is aligned with those who tried to control Trump's foreign policy. He allegedly actively subverted Trump's policies, and his presence in the White House is considered a tragedy.

Despite numerous indictments, civil fraud cases, and sexual transgressions, the person who defeated me in 2016 continues to thrive. This is because he appeals to the emotional and psychological needs of a portion of the population, particularly the Republican Party's base. They see him as their spokesperson and remain loyal, attending his rallies and wearing his merchandise. His negative and divisive politics resonate with them, possibly due to their dislike of migrants, gay people, black people, or those who have achieved success they desire. "Make America great again" symbolized a desire for a return to a time when people felt empowered and could freely express their opinions, even if it meant insulting others. Breaking this cult-like following is crucial.

The guest discusses a shift in media portrayal, from favorable to critical, after announcing his presidential run. He recalls NBC heads attempting to dissuade him from running, despite The Apprentice's success. He recounts his initial experience upon entering the White House as surreal, contrasting it with the clarity he felt when shot. He describes appointing approximately 10,000 people, relying on recommendations due to his lack of Washington experience. He admits his biggest mistake was selecting certain disloyal individuals. He claims the media highlighted his "wild" statements, boosting his popularity by contrasting him with rehearsed politicians. He advocates for countries to pay the U.S., citing his collection of billions from China. He defends his environmental record, stating the U.S. had the cleanest air and water during his term. He criticizes environmental consultants for profiting by obstructing projects. He expresses support for tariffs, recounting McKinley's pro-tariff stance. He discusses a plan to eliminate income tax, replacing it with tariffs. He claims he stopped a car plant in Mexico by threatening tariffs. He says he saved lives by calling Elon Musk to activate Starlink. He claims the deficit increased due to COVID-19, but his policies would have paid off debt. He says he was robbed in the 2020 election, citing examples such as the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop story. He says he will open the JFK files if re-elected. He says Elon Musk told him that unless you have paper ballots, it can never be an honest election. He says he was asked by some people not to open the JFK files because of addresses, people that are still living, and national security reasons.

People leave my administration, and some miss it so badly that they either embrace it or become hostile. It's "Trump derangement syndrome," or they wake up and the glamour is gone, and the whole world is different, so they become hostile.

Speaker 0 argues that Trump "picked out individual businesses or sometimes individual business leaders who he wanted to use the government to punish" and "went after Amazon and Jeff Bezos" and "went after saying he wanted to go after Mark Zuckerberg," engaging in actions "targeting businesses because of what were perceived to be his political interests." He warns this would make him "radioactive in the business world" because "business people are too smart to think that they can always be on the right side of those calculations." Speaker 1 notes that "you don't hear a whole lot of CEOs ... coming out in support of him" and that "nobody that I know other than Leon Elon" has supported him. He adds that some business leaders support Trump "with the caveat" for a "very transactional" reason: "For the right amount, you can guide policy. I think you saw that with crypto."

I'm for Trump in 2024 because Republican viewpoints fit me better. The trials are propaganda, they're all friends like in the WWF. Trump, Biden, Obama. I'm for Trump's viewpoints because he's a businessman, and people only talk about him personally, not politically. He's a good politician because he's not one. Everybody has someone they can't stand, and he can't stand the same type of people others can't stand. When he was president, nobody was fighting wars. He and Dennis Rodman got along with Kim Jong Un, and he was the first president to go to North Korea. Everybody was getting money. He was real and told you how he felt. You knew what you were dealing with.

79% of people say the country is on the wrong track after 3.5 years of the current administration. Over the last decade, people have become exhausted. Republicans, including former chiefs of staff, defense secretaries, national security advisors, and the former Vice President, believe Donald Trump is unfit, unstable, dangerous, and spends too much time on personal grievances instead of focusing on the American people. Despite these claims, half the country supports him, and he is beating his opponent in swing states. The election for President of the United States is not supposed to be easy. Donald Trump demeans the American people, talks about an enemy within, and suggested turning the American military on the American people.

I didn't take a salary and worked hard, doing a phenomenal job for the country. It's concerning that they would indict their political opponent, setting a dangerous precedent. Crooked Joe and his thugs are desperate to stop me because I disrupted everything in my first term. This second term, which we're currently in, is a disaster for the country. There has never been a president like this.

The new press secretary is described as being very prepared. It is asserted that it's ridiculous to suggest President Trump is doing anything for his own benefit. He supposedly left a life of luxury and a successful real estate empire for public service, not just once but twice, and the American public reelected him because they trust he acts in the best interest of the country and puts the American public first. It is claimed that this president has actually lost money for being president. The speaker doesn't remember these types of questions being asked of the previous president, described as a career politician who was clearly profiting.

The policies under Donald Trump led to low inflation, rising wages, and stability. However, under Joe Biden, there is rising inflation and economic stagnation. It's important to acknowledge Trump's success and consider bringing him back for another term to restore a growing economy and peace globally.

Donald Trump is old and has been labeled as a racist and a neo-Nazi. However, I won't focus on him right now.

The president insults millions of hardworking Americans—parents, veterans, small business owners, and farmers—by calling Trump supporters garbage. This comes from a leader who has faced criticism for his actions and policies, including issues with the economy and border security. There's a double standard in media outrage, as past comments have drawn significant backlash. The administration shows open contempt for those who hold different views, labeling them as deplorables and irredeemable. However, those who think independently and advocate for responsible government and true borders represent the heart of America. If that makes them garbage, so be it.

The situation revealed significant incompetence and could have been a much larger event historically. The downside is that it resulted in negative consequences for many people in the country. Starting in 2015, Trump quickly rose to the top and maintained his lead throughout the primaries. He faced Hillary in the election, who appeared unhappy during that time. Despite her being a nice person, Trump defeated her and performed even better in 2020, gaining millions more votes—about 10 to 12 million additional votes compared to the first election.

The person in charge is a controversial figure known for multiple impeachments, indictments, and divisive statements. They have shown support for dictators, proposed discriminatory policies, made derogatory remarks towards various groups, and exhibited questionable behavior towards women. Their actions have sparked outrage and controversy, with many questioning their leadership and values.

Donald Trump told the speaker that during his first term, he "had no idea how to govern" and was influenced by donors and corporate individuals to appoint certain people, resulting in "a lot of bad people" in positions like NSA, CIA, and EPA. Trump stated he won't repeat this mistake. He claimed a donor influenced him to appoint John Bolton, who he now considers "a really bad guy." Trump is starting his transition team three months early, funded by private donors, and has appointed 20 people, including the speaker and Tulsi. The speaker claims this transition team is unique because it contains no corporate lobbyists, unlike previous transition teams, which were "100% corporate lobbyists." This gives the speaker hope that Trump's next government will be different.

If you believe what the media says, you've gained a valuable ally who essentially works for you without charge. I want to be clear, I admire President Trump. I genuinely believe he's a good person. There's something admirable about him. The president has faced relentless and unfair attacks in the media, which is truly outrageous. In my experience, having spent considerable time with him, I have never once witnessed him acting in a mean, cruel, or unethical manner.

Nikki Haley, a globalist, opposed my border wall and condemned my strong border policy. She also sided with Barack Hussein Obama against the Trump Travel ban. Some people think open borders are okay, but they're not very smart. I imitate Obama sometimes, joking that he's running things. He gives short speeches because he starts falling asleep. I never talked about him this way until I got indicted, which was unprecedented because I was very popular.

The speaker asserts that the Trump administration was “the best administration I’ve ever seen,” noting it’s ten years after the Trump movement and Brexit, and that their side is in power. They express willingness for a long political run, saying they’d be happy if JD Vance could be president for eight years and Marco Rubio for another eight, with continued involvement. They remark that after Trump, the drumbeat of opposition began quickly, accusing him of starting World War III or being controlled, and they stress that those in government have different responsibilities from those in opposition. They ask how JD Vance can win the next election if the group outside has spent four years tearing each other apart. The speaker then addresses being Jewish within the NatCon movement. They state they’ve never done this before and are not particularly comfortable with it. They reflect that it was easy and great to be a leader in the nationalist movement and Jewish until about a year and a half ago, because whenever left-leaning Jews or others accused their speakers of antisemitism, the speaker could defend them, arguing people hadn’t spoken to the person, hadn’t read full statements, and were taking a sentence out of context. They found it fun and rewarding to defend against what they viewed as false, ridiculous antisemitism accusations, and it made them popular. Now, they say, it’s not that easy anymore. They acknowledge that criticism of Israel is fine as a policy discussion, but they’ve been struck by the “depth of the slander of Jews as a people” online over the last year and a half, and say they didn’t expect this on the right. They observe a transition among some on the right—people they once admired and still admire in part—who now believe that praising the Muslim Brotherhood, Islam, and the Quran is appropriate, and that Jews are a big problem. They express hope this will pass and call for reconsidering the relationship between Jews and Christians, proposing a mutual discussion and honor if possible, rather than a vile stream of accusations about Jews’ actions toward Christians in the Middle Ages. Finally, they stress that the coalition was built by Donald Trump and is broad enough to win the next election and future ones. They warn that driving coalition members out, dishonoring them, or keeping them dishonored will lead to loss: it would destroy Vance’s prospects, Rubio’s prospects, and America’s prospects. The speaker presents a choice: preserve the coalition or risk undermining it.

I made mistakes in choosing some advisors. While I picked some great people, I also selected a few who were disloyal or gave bad advice. For instance, I hired John Bolton despite warnings from a friend, Phil Ruffin, who said he was trouble. I wish I had listened sooner. Bolton had a reputation that made other countries wary, thinking I might go to war. He was involved in the controversial Middle East decisions during the Bush administration. I often received more attention than others, possibly due to my outspoken nature.