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We were all hopeful when we heard the vaccine was 95% effective, thinking it was our way out. But maybe we were too optimistic and not cautious enough. We didn't consider the possibility of the vaccine wearing off or being less effective against future variants.

I think we all know how important the COVID vaccine was. It was scientifically, critically studied to prevent severe disease. I think where people started to get confused is when we started to make potential claims that the vaccine did more than what it was studied to actually show. And remember all of those original studies, we didn't test patients unless they had symptoms. We only looked for disease, and so we don't know how many people were asymptomatic. We don't know about protection against infection. What we did know about is protection against severe disease. And clearly, if you look at the mortality in individuals 75 before vaccination and after vaccination, there was a dramatic difference even through, Amicrom and Delta. So, yes, the vaccine was highly effective for what it was intended to do, was prevent Shouldn't the health secretary know that? You know, I'm not sure that there's so much confusion about the COVID vaccine, what it was studied to do. I just want to make it very clear. It was studied to prevent severe disease, and that's what it does. And then I think the question is, well, who's who's susceptible to severe disease and who should continue to get the COVID shots? I think that's what needs to be clearly laid out to the American people.

As a scientist, it's important to be criticized and hold science to a high standard. However, this doesn't work well in the public health arena. The example of the bivalent vaccine showed that it wasn't any better than the previous vaccine due to the original antigenic sin problem. Public health officials kept pushing it as better, causing a divisive climate. The recent recommendation for boosters also sparked controversy, as the United States recommends it for everyone over 6 months, while other countries have targeted recommendations for high-risk groups. Nuanced messages get lost in the current climate, but it's important to explain recommendations carefully to the public.

One speaker states that you cannot conclude vaccines will do better than natural infection, although they can often do slightly better. When asked if the government lied about vaccinated people not getting the virus, the speaker responded that they don't know about the task force's discussions. They vaccinated their susceptible family members but still used layered protection during surges, knowing vaccine immunity could wane like natural immunity, with reinfection occurring every four months in South Africa. When asked if the government's claim that the vaccine prevented transmission was a lie or a guess, the speaker said it was hope. They added that the original phase three trials only measured symptomatic disease, not proactively testing for mild or asymptomatic infections, so there was never data showing protection against asymptomatic infection. Another speaker expressed frustration that government agencies were guessing, hoping, or lying to the American people, calling them the biggest purveyors of misinformation.

The speaker acknowledges that the vaccine did not completely stop the spread or infection, but clarifies that initially it did for the Wuhan strain and the alpha strain. Early data and literature published in the New England Journal showed that those who were vaccinated and didn't get infected were not transmitting the virus to others. The vaccine had a high efficacy of up to 96% early on and this efficacy did not change over time.

The White House blames a few bad actors for spreading online misinformation that is causing harm. It is important to get vaccinated not only for personal protection but also to safeguard society. A member of the European Parliament from the Netherlands recently had a viral exchange with a Pfizer executive regarding whether the vaccine was tested for stopping virus transmission before being released. The executive clarified that the vaccines were extensively tested in clinical trials, but their specific effectiveness in stopping transmission was not known prior to market entry.

In a study of 1,000 people in Israel, it was found that those who received two vaccine doses were 27 times more likely to get reinfected. The vaccine does not prevent infections or transmission, as seen in studies from England, Scotland, and other European countries where triple-vaccinated individuals are most likely to die. On the other hand, natural immunity from previous infections, such as SARS CoV-one, can last for 18 years and provide long-lasting and broad protection. In conclusion, natural immunity should be considered as an important factor moving forward.

I was upset with the CDC for stopping tracking of infections in vaccinated individuals. Vaccines should not have been mandated, and side effects should have been acknowledged. The vaccines do not fully protect against infection. The spike protein in the vaccines can cause harm. I now prefer using a protein-based vaccine by Novavax, as it provides a known amount of spike protein without the risk of prolonged impact seen with mRNA vaccines.

I made it clear that my children were immunized with childhood vaccines. Public health failed to explain that COVID vaccines are different. Childhood vaccines, like for many diseases, provide immunity after one dose by giving children the disease without the deadly consequences. The COVID vaccine wasn't designed to prevent infection. Vaccine hesitancy has doubled since COVID, and we need to address these concerns. The mRNA vaccine should have been prioritized for those at high risk of severe disease, as the science and data indicated. We should have protected the elderly and those with comorbidities first. It went into young people before the elderly and nursing homes. We need to align public health actions with science and data. When we don't, we fracture trust with the American people.

We prioritize transparency and honesty. Vaccination reduces risk of COVID. No vaccine is 100% effective, but vaccines are highly efficacious. CDC guidelines recommend masks and social distancing. No study on masks for kids, but masks are advised. Lab leak theory not downplayed by me. Virus likely evolved in nature, not man-made. Criticism of me is criticism of science. It's not a simple yes or no answer.

At the beginning of vaccinations, only one person in our team had been vaccinated and strangely, they were the only one who caught Covid. We wonder about the effect of the vaccine. It happened two weeks after their second dose. Another thing is that when I got vaccinated, the next day I got Covid. The same thing happened to my daughter. It's incredible. I am pro-vaccine and have received all three doses. But even the nurses I spoke to said that after their third dose, they also got Covid. The only nurse who didn't get their third dose didn't get Covid. I choose not to get vaccinated and instead get tested if I want to go to a restaurant. I had lunch with a group of people, all triple vaccinated, and they were all positive for Covid. I've never caught Covid, even though my partner did. But now that I'm vaccinated, I got sick. I have symptoms and need to see a doctor. They think I might have Covid and will do a special test.

I got the vaccine, got injured, and discovered they're lying about everything: masks, lockdowns, and pandemic handling. They lied about herd immunity, natural immunity, and Pfizer didn't even test if their vaccine stops transmission. We only found out because a European politician questioned a Pfizer executive. They didn't want to release the vaccine trial data for 75 years. My friends who smear me online never question the COVID narrative. They're on the wrong side of history.

They claimed high effectiveness based on one COVID death in the vaccinated group versus two in the unvaccinated, out of 22,000 people. But effective for what, exactly? They kept saying it was a certain percentage effective, but the point was to negate the severity. I remember seeing videos of Fauci, Biden, Gates, and Bourla saying that if you take the vaccine, you can't get or pass COVID. If you want, I can even play the video for you. Regardless, it doesn't matter what Rachel Maddow says.

Vaccination is crucial for protecting oneself and others, and for society to return to normal. Vaccinated individuals are less likely to transmit the virus or get sick. Getting vaccinated and receiving booster shots can save lives and prevent the spread of infection. The goal is to become a dead end for the virus, stopping its transmission. Vaccinated people do not get infected and cannot be used as hosts to spread the virus. However, the initial emergency use authorization did not have sufficient data on the vaccine's effectiveness against transmission. The speed of scientific progress necessitated quick action.

The message we have been conveying from the beginning is that when you are vaccinated, you do not risk infecting others. Studies have shown that people who have received both doses of the vaccine have virtually no chance of contracting the disease. If everyone is vaccinated, there will no longer be any virus.

The United States government has been the main source of misinformation during the pandemic, spreading false claims about COVID transmission, vaccine immunity, and mask effectiveness. The Cochrane review, the most authoritative evidence body in medicine, disproves these claims. Myocarditis is actually more common after vaccination, and young people don't benefit from boosters. Vaccine mandates didn't increase vaccination rates, but instead created never vaxxers who are now missing out on childhood vaccines. The CDC manipulated their own studies on natural immunity and masking to fit their desired outcomes, showing intellectual dishonesty and lying to the American people.

The speaker acknowledges that the vaccine did not completely stop the spread or infection, but clarifies that initially it did for the Wuhan strain and the alpha strain. Early data and literature published in the New England Journal showed that those who were vaccinated and didn't get infected were not transmitting the virus to others. The vaccine had a high efficacy of up to 96% early on and this efficacy did not change over time.

There is a discussion about how public trust in vaccination has changed since the pandemic. The speaker notes that years ago there were “five people in the world who were prepared to talk about the thorny issue of vaccination.” Post COVID, however, “half the adult population of the world are now saying, hold on, we don't trust you. You lied to us. It's not what you told us, safe and effective.” This skepticism extends to vaccines given to children, with the question, “Does this apply to all the other vaccines you're putting into my kids?” The speaker then asserts that “safety studies haven't been done,” suggesting that important research behind vaccines is incomplete or lacking. This leads to the claim that “they've created this mess for themselves.” Despite the frustration, the speaker emphasizes the moral weight of deception, stating, “it's really tough to lie. I mean, lying gets you into real trouble.”

I cannot understand how anyone can recommend the mRNA vaccination and sleep well at night. They seem afraid to admit they were wrong. I want to give you a chance to address your colleagues, fellow pathologists, and medical professionals. My advice is to always question what so-called experts say. You don't need top scientists, you need experienced doctors who think critically. In the past, people died from the flu without it being turned into a pandemic or locking people away.

The speaker acknowledges that the vaccine did not completely stop the spread or infection, but clarifies that initially it did for the Wuhan strain and the alpha strain. Early data and literature published in the New England Journal showed that those who were vaccinated and didn't get infected were not transmitting the virus to others. The vaccine had a high efficacy of up to 96% early on and this efficacy did not change over time.

I made it clear that my children received childhood immunizations. The issue is we failed to communicate that COVID vaccines differ significantly from childhood vaccines, which typically provide lasting immunity after one dose. The COVID vaccine was not designed to prevent infection. Vaccine hesitancy has doubled since COVID, and we must address this. The mRNA vaccines should have prioritized individuals at high risk for severe disease, aligning with the scientific data. We should have protected the elderly and those in nursing homes first. Prioritizing young people in hospitals before the elderly was not following the science. Public health actions must align with scientific data to maintain the trust of the American people.

The speaker questions whether the government was guessing or lying when they said that vaccinated individuals couldn't get the virus. The other speaker, who was part of the previous administration, acknowledges that there was evidence of natural reinfection during the global pandemic and that the vaccine was based on natural immunity. They suggest that the vaccine may not necessarily outperform natural infection. The first speaker then asks if the government was lying when they said the vaccine couldn't transmit the virus, to which the second speaker responds that it was more of a hopeful belief. The first speaker concludes that the government's statements were not truthful, leaving the options of guessing, lying, or hoping as possible explanations.

A communication problem arose when it was intimated that vaccines would protect against getting COVID altogether, which wasn't supported by evidence. Vaccines protect against illness in the lower respiratory system, but the virus could still be carried in the upper airway and potentially spread. This led to distrust of mRNA vaccines, as people who got COVID after vaccination questioned the vaccine's effectiveness. Recent data shows that vaccines work well in preventing illness and infection, and make it unlikely that someone would pass the infection to someone else. The concern was that vaccinated people could be unwitting carriers, but recent data suggests this is very unlikely. Vaccinated people not wearing masks are not doing a disservice to their community. Unvaccinated people could be putting other unvaccinated people at risk. Institutions may require proof of vaccination, which will be a tough call.

In a study of 1,000 people in Israel, it was found that those who received two vaccine doses were 27 times more likely to get reinfected. The vaccine does not prevent infection or transmission. Similar studies in England, Scotland, and other European countries show that triple vaccinated individuals are most likely to die. Natural immunity, on the other hand, is long-lasting, wide-ranging, and durable. There are cases of SARS CoV-one patients still having immunity 18 years later. Therefore, natural immunity should be legally considered equal to vaccinated immunity, and it is likely to last a lifetime.

Vaccines were not expected to fully prevent infection, and this may have caused confusion about their effectiveness against severe disease and hospitalization. While vaccines do help reduce severe outcomes, it's important to note that a significant portion of those who died during the omicron surge were older individuals who were vaccinated. Therefore, whether vaccinated or unvaccinated, the focus should be on testing and the use of paxlovid for treatment.