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"how did this guy know to move to that exact location?" "There was also a man that was arrested in a parking lot with an airsoft rifle." "that crazy guy screaming that he was basically a distraction?" "the best way to tell a difference between people is to look at their ear." "the ear does not is a bit different to the one we've seen of of photos of Tyler, old photos Tyler." "it's not obvious, but we don't have any positive proof here that there is a rifle in this video at all." "how did he get a rifle up on the roof?" "it's not a takedown model." "the bulge in his pocket" "12:23:34" "potato cam footage" "I didn't shoot him, I didn't do anything, I swear guys." "rifle was pre positioned at some period in time, and that he then was able to pick it off the property, and because he knew he couldn't walk all the way across, and then stash it like that as he was moving into position finally." "there's so many different people that are talking about this and it hasn't died yet." "a Twitter post the day before and ended up sharing it, the same day within hours of when Charlie Kirk got shot, that said he was attending school there, he said something very big was gonna happen the next day"

The speaker challenges the official narrative about Tyler Robinson, a "22 year old kid" from a "mega Christian conservative law enforcement, dad's a cop family." He says Tyler "went to church because he turned himself in with some kind of a minister... along with a federal agent and his cop dad," who "I think we've learned since is actually not a cop." He notes "grandma says, I never once saw Tyler with a gun" and labels him "this tranny chasing, tranny loving," claiming he adopted a "radical liberal ideology" with "text messages" to a lover, though there were "no time stamps." The New York Times said "these were all reproduced" and "they were fake." The speaker says "this person who has very limited experience with firearms" and describes claims about the rifle scene, the "sixty second time frame," and questions about hiding evidence, ending with "we've got him."

This transcript presents a heated claim about Candace Owens, Charlie Kirk, and Israel, centered on Turning Point USA leadership. It opens with "This just changed everything. Holy shit. Wake up America. Shit's getting crazy." Owens is said to "put the higher ups at Turning Point executives on blast" and to "challenge them to publicly release a statement about her explosive statement regarding Charlie Kirk's position on Israel." She quotes: "About forty eight hours prior to his death, Charlie Kirk notified Turning Point USA, Jewish donors, and a rabbi that he had no choice but to abandon the pro Israel cause outright." She asks: "Did he express that? Did he also express that he wanted to bring me, Candace Owens, back because he was standing up for himself?" and demands: "I want you to literally answer what I have just said. It either happened or it didn't." The claim: "Forty eight hours later... a bullet to the throat" and "This changes fucking everything." The piece also attacks "trans slop trans shooter agenda" and "slop media," cites "24% of Americans" pro-Israel vs "98% of our government" pro-Israel, and ends with "Bukele Two Point O" and "a bush light wrapped in shit."

The transcript centers on a critical clash over Candace Owens, TP USA, and allegations surrounding Charlie Kirk’s murder investigation, focusing on Fort Huachuca, alleged alibis, and competing narratives presented by Candace Owens and her critics. - The speaker positions himself as having known and supported Candace Owens for ten years, but challenges her latest claims, calling them “ridiculous gaslighting” and “nonsense,” and promises to lay out the facts and where they land. - The ongoing dispute involves “Egyptian planes,” a “latest so-called witness and whistleblower,” Mitch Snow, and a broader question about possible foreign or domestic involvement in Charlie Kirk’s murder, which is tied to a Fort Huachuca narrative. - Mitch Snow is alleged to have claimed that he saw Brian Harpole leaving a meeting at Fort Huachuca on September 9, and also claimed that Erica Kirk was at Fort Huachuca the night before, at Candlewood Inn and Suites. Owens had hosted Snow’s claims as part of her investigation, and the speaker had previously advised Candace to check alibis. - Candace Owens’ supporters and surrogates allegedly attacked the speaker after he questioned the alibis; he persisted in investigating, noting that the Fort Huachuca storyline had “completely blown up” with those alibis. - The narrative shifts to Erica Kirk, with Owens stating she had claimed she did not say the military was involved and did not implicate TP USA, despite compilations of past statements suggesting otherwise. The speaker contends Owens moved the goalposts multiple times and used the Fort Huachuca angle as a distraction from a prior Egyptian plane storyline. - The speaker asserts exclusive access to HD screenshots from Andrew Colvin, the TP USA spokesperson, which purportedly show that Owens’ depiction of Andrew Colvin’s involvement in “secret damage control” is a fraud. He claims to reveal that Colvin was coordinating with Paramount Tactical, not Owens directly, and that Colvin reached out to Owens’ team with alibi requests regarding Erica Kirk. - A key incident involves a screenshot and a time-stamped image Erica Kirk allegedly sent to Colvin showing her with her kids at 08:33, purportedly from Phoenix, which Owens used as part of her alibi apparatus. The speaker presents this as evidence that Colvin’s communications were not a cover-up but a regular PR exercise, and that Owens used the image to claim a broader conspiracy. - The speaker narrates a back-and-forth where Colvin allegedly provided an alibi for Erica Kirk; he shows that Kirk sent photos from a park and home, and Colvin responded three hours later, asking not to display the photo publicly but to acknowledge the proof. Owens denies the alibi and reframes it as desperate behavior by TP USA. - The discussion expands to broader personnel and planes-related details: an undersecretary of the army allegedly went to Fort Huachuca on the eighth; a defense department border inspection visit is cited as context for why Fort Huachuca is significant. The speaker emphasizes that the focus should be on the ninth and the alleged base alibis, not the eighth. - The speaker accuses Owens of simulating a “gaslighting operation” and notes that she has discredited alibis by shifting attention to new claims; he maintains that the “ninth” is the core question, not the earlier Fort Huachuca references. - The narrative includes a conflict with commentators such as Alex Jones, Charlie Kirk, and The Daily Wire, and alleges that Owens’ circle has manipulated public perception to undermine TP USA and Charlie Kirk. - The speaker concludes with a denunciation of Owens’ tactics, insisting that the public should focus on the Charlie Kirk murder case and its true facts, while alleging Owens uses a pattern of deception, moving from one narrative to another to distract from the nine’s alleged details. He calls for prayer for Candace Owens and urges supporters to consider the broader battle against perceived globalist manipulation; he also frames this as a spiritual or existential conflict in which truth is being contested. Note: Promotional or advertising content included toward the end of the original transcript has been omitted.

An uploader claims CCTV shows Tyler Robinson at a location different from the university twenty minutes after the shooting. The video, tied to “from convict to conservative” (536 followers), is billed as potentially the most viral in the Tyler Robinson investigation and as something that will blow the FBI's narrative out of the water. Les Effer Lounge, aka Pia, says she has footage of Tyler; the FBI asked for CCTV of Tyler or his vehicle and she provided it. The footage timeline: 12:44 shows Tyler's car in a parking lot; it sits for about two minutes (12:44–12:46) and then leaves; it returns around 12:47. The FBI reportedly said, “That's all we needed. We got copies of it.” The host mentions text messages with “convict to conservative” and says the conversation will be posted in the comments. Viewers are urged to follow the source, credit him, and share with Candace.

Speaker questions the FBI and media’s suggestion that 'this Tyler was some type of trans kid, lone shooter on a roof.' They claim they could give '150,000 reasons why Israel would benefit from Charlie Kirk being assassinated' and that 'the government in Israel ... would have fallen' if Kirk continued speaking. They say they can't give 'one reason why Tyler would' do it, even if he had a trans boyfriend. They reference 'Raw Alerts' and claim 'the dude running the Raw Alerts page is wearing a doggy mask and diapers and into trans fetish crap' and that he’s 'on our side fighting to expose corruption.' They argue the shooter 'didn't seem radicalized' with no posts on social media, asking what radicalized trans person do you know that didn't leave a memoir. They declare, 'this demonic state ... worship Satan, bomb children' and wonder how Israel would benefit; 'What about you guys?'

The speaker questions the FBI/media portrayal of Tyler as a "trans kid, lone shooter on a roof." He says he could give "150,000 reasons why Israel would benefit from Charlie Kirk being assassinated," and argues "the current government in Israel that is blackmailing the most powerful government in the world would have fallen" if Kirk had continued speaking as he was. He says he can't give you one reason why Tyler would; notes "we know nothing really about this boyfriend" and that "Raw Alerts" is run by someone "wearing a doggy mask and diapers" who is "on our side fighting to expose corruption" and not "out there with a rifle." He notes 'no posts on social media about it' and asks, "What radicalized trans person do you know that didn't leave a memoir," wondering if Tyler would have "engraving this stuff on-site," concluding "This stuff's not adding up to me."

"Candice is now saying that she believes that there is most likely some Ukrainian ties, some intelligence agencies that are involved in this assassination." "it's a military operation." "None of this shit is adding up, and it fucking stinks, guys." "a person going by the name Robbie Hild, who was allegedly from Washington." "No one is saying they went to school with him." "stronger than a theory and more of a hunch that this was a military operation, and people that executed this are actually from overseas." "They have a direct pipeline from Russia to America." "What we're talking about are terrorist cells." "Charlie was on a hit list. I also was on the hit list. Tucker was on the hit list." "release the gosh damn CCTV footage." "What the hell are you guys doing covering this shit up?"

Speaker says he lost respect for Alex Jones over "cram that that trans shooter slopped on our throat," noting numerous messages about it. He cites "breaking. Tyler Robinson confirmed to be in a CIA advanced program for college students. Where? The Center for Anticipate Intelligence" and claims "defense contractors are waiving the preliminary hearing." He adds, "If this lawyer waivers the preliminary hearing, then I would say that Tyler Robinson is an MK Ultra style program." The critique includes "FBI can't show us one photo, not one video, not one shred of evidence that Tyler Robinson was ever on that campus," and notes "Candace's video" about witness protection and says "they're trying to pin the death penalty on an innocent kid." "I still do. He's a legend."

Speaker references Sydney Powell, calling her "Elite lawyer, now down a few notches because she worked for Trump and that always gets you in trouble." They say, "Hunter Biden's laptop were ever released no, if Anthony Weiner's laptop were ever released, the government would fall." "Weiner's laptop had kill switches in it." "Supposedly nine cops watched the videos on Weiner's laptop." "They had to keep leaving the room because they couldn't stand what they were seeing, and all nine are now dead." "it's like the five cops who died after January 6, right? Four of them were suicides." "Out of according to AI, there were about 80 cops really in the thick of things." "Four of them died from suicide." "I don't need any more information to wonder what the hell is going on there. The math of that doesn't work for me."

The segment analyzes questions about an alleged text-message exchange between Tyler Robinson and his boyfriend regarding the Charlie Kirk shooting, presenting an “official transcript” of messages and highlighting apparent inconsistencies. Key lines cited include: "Robinson, drop what you are doing and look under my keyboard." "I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk, and I'm going to take it." "I am still okay, my love, but I'm stuck in Orem for a little longer yet. Shouldn't be long until I can come home, but I gotta grab my rifle still." "I had hoped to keep this secret till I died of old age." "Robinson, I am. I'm sorry." "If I'm able to grab my rifle unseen, I will have left no evidence." "Remember how I was engraving bullets?" "Delete this exchange." The piece notes questions about timelines, absence of time stamps, and camera footage, and quotes: "I'm gonna turn myself in willingly." "Since Trump got into office, my dad has been pretty diehard MAGA." It concludes that online observers question the narrative and possible discrepancies with authorities’ statements.

Steven (interviewer) and Charlie Kirk’s discussion covers the Charlie Kirk shooting at the Utah Valley University campus, the evidence, theories, and ongoing investigations. The key points are: - Two narratives around the incident: many are angry about the Gaza-Israel war, while others note Charlie Kirk was irritated about defending Israel more than America and about a Jewish donor pulling money; this discrepancy led some to speculate about Israeli involvement, though no definitive link is presented in their discussion. - The microphone/explosion theory and the “exploding mic” explanation are challenged. The mic is deemed too small to cause the observed effects, there is no residue, and the shirt’s cavitation can account for the shirt puffing without an explosion. They discuss the lack of burns or tears and conclude the exploding-mic theory does not fit the evidence they examined. - On the terrain and line of sight: a walkthrough of the scene revealed the Losey Building is two or three stories tall, with Charlie Kirk in a lower amphitheater area; the shooter, Tyler Robinson, fired from above, shooting downward. The terrain and proximity were difficult to gauge from Google Maps, and being physically present changed their understanding of distances and angles. The shooter’s position, sightlines, and the potential visibility of the shooter’s face or gun from the roof were clarified through on-site observation. - Handprint and measurement observations: a handprint believed to be from Tyler Robinson was found on the roof edge, accompanied by a measurement tape suggesting a length around 36 to 40 inches, consistent with the length of a rifle. A yellow tape measure taped to the building and later footage from a telescoping camera supported this assessment. There was discussion about whether the handprint length corresponded to a rifle’s size, and whether a towel on the shooter concealed a weapon. - Video and evidence release: there is an ongoing investigation, and authorities have not released all video or autopsy details. They emphasize the rights of Tyler Robinson to due process; unlike a deceased suspect, Robinson is alive and defense counsel is heavily involved. Investigators have used lasers, measurements, and other techniques at the crime scene, but not all footage is publicly shared during ongoing proceedings. - Autopsy and ballistic questions: debates about wound direction (front versus rear entry), exit wounds, and the possibility that a 30-06 round could be consistent with the neck wound; a front-entry or behind-back trajectory is discussed. Forensic experts describe how X-rays and ballistic analysis will determine the bullet’s path and fragments, while noting that the death certificate does not specify the bullet type, which is a common practice. - Candace Owens and donor-related DM discussions: Candace released DMs in which Charlie Kirk reportedly said, “Jewish donors play into all the stereotypes. I cannot and will not be bullied like this, leaving me no choice but to leave the pro Israel cause.” They discuss whether those messages indicate Israel involvement or donor pressure. Steven argues donors may have wanted Kirk to uphold Judeo-Christian values and that the donor dynamics could explain some tensions, but they do not conclude an Israeli conspiracy. - Discord chats, text messages, and “trans terror cell” theories: they discuss the possibility of Discord chats and messages being forged or taken out of context; some theories mention a transgender cell or coordinated conspiracies. Steven notes Kash Patel announced investigations into conspiracy theories, but as of now no arrests have occurred. The Discord exchanges were described as real in part, but their relevance to planning remains uncertain; there is speculation about premeditation versus reactive admissions. - Other theories and debunkings: theories such as trapdoors, tunnels, or irrigation pipes were addressed and dismissed. Claims about an Egyptian military plane, drones, or a private jet turning off transponders were also discussed and generally debunked or dismissed based on timing, geolocation, and official statements. - Weapon specifics and trajectory: Matt Tardio and Chris Martenson are referenced regarding the ballistics and wound mechanics; Steven suggests the 30-06 wound is plausible if the cartridge quality and angle were favorable, but emphasizes that more autopsy details and bullet analysis are required. He expects more evidence to emerge during the trial, including ballistics, gun residue on the shooter’s clothes and car, and the shooter’s geolocation data. - Trust in institutions: the conversation closes with a note that, regardless of the findings, trust in institutions like the FBI heavily influences how people accept or reject the evidence and conclusions. They acknowledge that even with extensive surveillance footage and forensic analysis, public trust will shape the reception of any official findings. Steven commends the coverage for being thorough and methodical across multiple theories. In summary, the discussion blends现场 observations with ongoing investigative questions: the on-site terrain clarified shooting angles, the handprint and measurement evidence suggested rifle length, and the autopsy/ballistics details remain pending; many alternative theories (explosive mic, trapdoors, drone activity, coordinated conspiracies, or donor-driven motives) are discussed and evaluated against observed evidence, with a general emphasis on awaiting official forensic results and trial proceedings.

Tyler Robinson is in FBI custody. The FBI has charged him with aggravated murder along with a host of other charges and is seeking the death penalty. He allegedly left the scene with only a text-message confession and was on the lam for o eight hundred hours. The FBI says there is footage of the shooter taking the shot, and the released video starts after that part, with other details redacted. There are claims about distractions, unexplained objects in footage, a wound not matching the shot, a fabricated text chain, and a Dairy Queen photo connected to the statewide manhunt. The piece stresses trusting the FBI to get to the bottom of it, like with Epstein. It also cites Cash Patel saying Epstein never trafficked anyone, and that hundreds of victims are lying. Midterms and conspiracy theories are discussed; there is mention of abundant evidence that could change the paradigm.

Speaker questions the FBI and mainstream media portrayal of Tyler as a trans kid, lone shooter on a roof, saying he "could probably give you a 150,000 reasons why Israel would benefit from Charlie Kirk being assassinated" but "I can't give you one why Tyler would." He questions the boyfriend angle, noting "we know nothing really about this boyfriend" and that even if he was trans, he mentions "doggy, diddy little style freak pop parties." He cites Raw Alerts, whose operator is "wearing a doggy mask and diapers and into this trans fetish crap." He adds, "This kid didn't seem radicalized. He didn't show any signs of it. There were no posts on social media about it." He asks viewers to comment and argues it’s "mathematically probably impossible for Israel" to be uninvolved, calling it a "demonic state" that "worship Satan" and "bomb children" and "murder journalists." "What about you guys?"

"Charlie Kirk's assassination has deleted evidence that Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson haven't mentioned once." "This guy told the cops to arrest him so the shooter could have more time to get away." "This guy was deployed for 09/11, deployed against Obama, for George Bush, and personally worked with senators and US congressmen." "And he personally admitted it, and they wiped everything, but I downloaded it just before. George Zinn," "These donors like Manafort, Berman, Ronald Weiser, they manipulate elections, create countries, and have personally admitted to taking money from all of these countries." "Zinn, the patsy, is an example of an actor they use." "I have a full twenty seven minute video going over exactly what happened, why people like Candace Owens might be lying to you, and the archive podcast link in bio."

The transcript centers on a long-form discussion of the Epstein case, the alleged “deep state,” FOIA operations, and political maneuvering around Trump, with frequent calls to aggressively release and pursue Epstein-related documents and other investigations. The speakers assert that the FOIA department is being used to shield deep-state ties and that many federal offices are filled with anti-Trump figures who have prevented full disclosure. - Epstein files and the role of the deep state - The speakers claim the Epstein files are being selectively redacted by FOIA departments to conceal deep-state connections. They state that FOIA personnel are controlled by deep-state actors and that Epstein’s case involves a “fleet of aircraft” and operations linked to major power centers. They argue Epstein’s activities connect to money laundering, information laundering, and a broader set of deep-state assets and operations. - They propose a remedy: appoint Tom Fitton as special counsel on the Epstein files, arguing he “knows how FOIA really works,” understands key personnel, and has litigated Epstein-related cases for years. They assert this would restore public confidence and expedite the exposure of Democratic ties and other actors alleged to be involved. - They advocate for Trump to have executive-privilege-style powers to declassify and release Epstein materials, suggesting a broad interpretation of “Epstein file law” that would allow him to disclose or appoint an ombudsman with power to release materials at will. They emphasize the need to disclose Democratic ties and to hold press conferences when releasing documents, avoiding the use of fake documents or videos. - Specific figures and institutions named - Kash Patel is cited as saying there are “open files on a dozen plus coconspirators” and as someone who has noted alleged misdirections by those handling Epstein-related material. - Kyle Serafin and Phil Kennedy are mentioned as documenting a person at the FBI capacity who is “an anti-Trump advocate,” implying that deep-state appointments control FOIA and related processes. - Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss replacing FOIA and related personnel who are deeply implicated; they specifically name Tom Fitton as the ideal choice and entertain other high-profile figures like Tulsi Gabbard as potential custodians of the Epstein disclosures. - Tulsi Gabbard is described as being in charge of broader investigations tied to the Epstein files and other major political issues (elections, COVID-19, etc.). They also reference “Epstein files” intersecting with other investigations they attribute to the deep state. - Epstein, Maxwell, and allied networks - Epstein is described as deeply embedded with Western intelligence agencies (French, Israeli, UK, and US) and tied to Robert Maxwell, with Maxwell’s daughter linked to Epstein. Epstein is portrayed as having been “recruited by Bill Barr” and as a central figure in a long-running intelligence and blackmail operation. - The discussion links Epstein to Leslie Wexner (Victoria’s Secret founder) and a French talent agency, portraying these connections as part of a large, interconnected network involved in money laundering, arms trafficking, blackmail, and intelligence work. - The speakers insist that Epstein’s activities extended to the late 1990s and beyond, including alleged involvement in “Shutters” in Santa Monica and other high-profile cases, with a consistent pattern of using underage girls and blackmail to exert influence. - They emphasize a broader motive: exposing the “deep state” to vindicate Trump and indict deep-state actors who allegedly engaged in illicit operations, including foreign intelligence services and Western governments. - The broader political frame and potential indictments - The Epstein files are presented as a potential hinge for indicting a wide array of figures across political lines, including references to Comey, Mueller, Hillary Clinton-era actors, and other “rogue actors” who allegedly hindered investigations. - The conversation ties Epstein to broader themes: the 2020 election, COVID policies, and anti-Trump actions by the “deep state.” They contend that the Epstein disclosures could demonstrate the depth of state interference in political processes and media, making Democrats and their institutions targets of accountability. - They argue the Epstien files could show criminal activity by multiple national actors, including Israeli, UK, and French components, and could reveal coordinated efforts to derail Trump and manipulate media narratives. - The Candace Owens angle and related criticisms - A substantial portion of the dialogue critiques Candace Owens, alleging she is running a “CIA-style” operation that distracts from the true conspiracy around the deep state and Tarantifa, and that she manipulates narratives related to Tyler Robinson and Charlie Kirk. - They accuse Owens of shifting narratives, fabricating alibis, and promoting disinformation, calling her a “SIOP” (psychological operation) and alleging her behind-the-scenes connections to MI6 or other international actors through her husband (George Farmer) and other associates. - They recount multiple incidents where Owens purportedly changed stories about meetings, alibis, and involvement in various investigations, asserting she uses “receipts” selectively and inconsistently to support divergent claims. - The speakers allege that Owens’s public warfare against Trump and TP USA is part of a broader intelligence operation intended to disrupt conservative momentum, link to Royal/MI6 circles, and undermine investigations into the deep state and its networks. - Tyler Robinson case and media dynamics - They describe Tyler Robinson as a Middle American figure whose transformation into a political actor is portrayed as a product of online radicalization and Tarantifa-linked influences. They claim there was a concerted effort to spoon-feed disinformation about Robinson and Candace Owens’ involvement. - They argue this is part of a larger pattern of media manipulation and disinformation designed to distract from real conspiracies and to target Trump and conservative movements. - Strategy and messaging guidance - The speakers advocate for Trump to go on the offensive with Epstein, releasing comprehensive, verified documentation, and pushing accountability for “rogue actors” in the FBI, the DOJ, the CIA, and the NSA. - They stress the need for aggressive prosecution and the appointment of trusted figures to lead the Epstein disclosures, arguing that this could restore public confidence and pivot the political conversation toward accountability for the deep state. - They urge addressing the statute of limitations issues in COVID, January 6, and 2020 election-related cases before the window closes in early 2026, warning that delays by Bondi, Blanche, and others could jeopardize prosecutions and political support. - Promotional and logistical notes - The dialogue includes frequent mentions of promoting Alex Jones programs, products, and stores (alexjonesstore.com and infowarsstore.com) to fund operations, along with appeals to listeners to support the broadcasts financially and through purchases, framing financial support as essential to sustaining investigations, media efforts, and broader political action. In sum, the transcript presents an entangled, aggressively conspiratorial narrative: a claim that Epstein’s files illuminate a vast, deeply embedded deep-state apparatus spanning multiple nations and agencies; a call to appoint trusted figures (notably Tom Fitton) to supervise full disclosure; a push for Trump to declassify and publicly prosecute the implicated actors; a harsh critique of Candace Owens as part of a disinformation ecosystem; and a broader strategy to use Epstein, along with related investigations, to dismantle perceived institutional corruption while fueling political narratives and fundraising.

Speaker questions the FBI/media claim that 'Tyler was some type of trans kid, lone shooter on a roof' and says, 'I could actually almost guarantee you that the current government in Israel that is blackmailing the most powerful government in the entire world would have failed, would have fallen had Charlie Kirk continue speaking the way he was speaking.' He adds, 'I can't give you one why Tyler would.' He notes 'Raw Alerts' with 'doggy mask and diapers' and claims the operator is 'on our side fighting to expose corruption.' He states there were 'no posts on social media about it,' and asks, 'What radicalized trans person do you know that didn't leave a memoir that you mean to tell me he was engraving this stuff on-site?' He ends with, 'What about you guys? Drop some comments below.' He asserts, 'Israel, this demonic state that literally seems to worship Satan, bomb children, blow up women and children, murder journalists, assassinated multiple leaders in America already... would benefit from this.'

Investigators identified an individual as the roommate of Robinson, who stated that his roommate referring to Robinson made a joke on Discord. He opened it and showed several messages to investigators and allowed investigators to take photos of the screen as each message was shown by Robinson's roommate. These photos consisted of various messages, including content of messages between the phone contact name Tyler with an emoji icon and Robinson's roommate's device. The content of these messages included messages affiliated with the contact Tyler stating a need to retrieve a rifle from a drop point. Discord said: "In a statement to NBC News, a Discord spokesperson said the company did identify an account belonging to the suspect, but said the messages mentioned in the news conference were not believed to have been sent on Discord." "The messages referenced in recent reporting about planning details do not appear to be Discord messages." These were communications between the roommate and a friend after the shooting, where the roommate was recounting the contents of a note the suspect had left elsewhere; "The messages aren't between Tyler, the alleged shooter, and his roommate." They were about Tyler, not from him. This seems to contradict the governor's claims; "The governor never mentioned that these communications were between the roommate and another person." The governor started by saying the roommate told the FBI that Tyler sent him a joke, and then goes on to detail how Tyler allegedly told the roommate to watch over the area where the gun was placed. But asking someone to watch the area where the gun was placed doesn't sound like a joke. It sounds like a deliberate order to assist with the cover up of an assassination. And now, the shooter's own grandmother says the FBI have the wrong man: "There is no way Robinson could be involved. ... I don't think he ever shot a gun to tell you the truth, ... He doesn't own any guns." Up until this point, we haven't heard from the father or any other family members. This raises a very serious issue because right now there are two pieces of evidence that the FBI and the governor of Utah is presenting to the public as evidence that Tyler is the shooter. One is that his father convinced Tyler to turn himself in, and two, the supposed Discord messages. With the Discord messages already being called into question, and since we haven't heard from his father, we shouldn't consider this case closed.

Gary Melton (Gary) and Mitch have a lengthy, meandering exchange that centers on veterans’ histories, alleged government manipulation, personal trauma, and the pursuit of truth around high-profile political cases. The core thread is an effort to verify Mitch’s claims about his SF background and to explore broader claims about political interference, media narratives, and potential conspiracies. Key points and exchanges: - Identity, background, and verification: - Gary identifies himself as a former SF soldier seeking to verify Mitch’s SF history after seeing his Candace Owens interview. - Mitch provides his SF timeline: he was in group from February/March 1993 until November 1996; MOS 18 Charlie (medic). He mentions attending the 300F1 course and a severe on-duty accident at Guadalupe River, involving a 60-foot fall that caused multiple injuries (spine, feet, knee, lumbar, dislocations, torn labrum, etc.). - Mitch describes his treatment (brace, three-week leave, then recycled into the next class and internship at Brookhaven Army Medical Center Burn Ward). He mentions ODA +1 63166/ +1 63/ +1 66 and places himself on +183 and +185 in the old numbering system; later, he notes the transition to the newer numeric system circa 2002-2006. - Gary asks for Mitch’s DD214 to verify the story; Mitch agrees and offers to share it. He references being in “Lake Baja” and knowing Nate (Nate Chapman), whom he spoke with the day before. - Personal stakes, trauma, and family: - Mitch explains a long, difficult divorce and custody battle that spanned many years. He says he was a stay-at-home dad for his son, who is now 13, and describes persistent, aggressive accusations against him (PTSD, abuse, murder) by courts and media figures. - He recounts a prior incident involving a coworker or classmate, Jimmy Walker, and notes that Walker later claimed PTSD and discrimination in SF contexts. Mitch frames this as part of broader patterns of how SF status can be weaponized in custody and legal battles. - Mitch and Gary discuss how the SF environment can foster suspicion, paranoia, and intra-community politics (e.g., clashes with SF Brothers, admin actions, and the difficulty of maintaining contact with peers after leaving the teams). - Candace Owens, TPUSA, and broader conspiratorial discussions: - The callers discuss Candace Owens’ involvement, the TPUSA circle, and the believability of various claims. Mitch says he has wanted to vet the claims through Candace and Joe Kent, and he’s offered to supply documents to verify stories. He notes that Candace has reportedly pulled threads about various shooters and narratives and that this has caused friction with TPUSA. - Mitch argues that Candace might be exploited by political or foreign adversaries and that her narratives sometimes lack corroborating evidence, distracting from “the truth.” He insists on corroborating Mitch’s own story with documents (DD214, other records) before airing anything publicly. - Gary responds with skepticism about online personas but agrees to vet Mitch’s materials, emphasizing integrity and a desire to verify truth. Both acknowledge the risk of backend manipulation, bot attacks, and the use of media figures to push narratives. - Ballistics and the Charlie Kirk incident: - A substantial portion of the discussion turns to ballistics surrounding Tyler Robinson and the Charlie Kirk incident. Mitch (the ballistics expert) explains that many variables affect ballistic outcomes (ammo type, grain, bullet construction, handloads vs. factory ammo, barrel condition, yaw, stabilization). He argues that the 30-06 round’s behavior can be highly variable and that an “atypical” (non-normative) wound could occur for many reasons. - He compares Martin Luther King’s assassination (65-yard shot, 30-06, open casket) to Charlie Kirk’s wound, noting similarities in the trajectory and lack of an exit wound in some high-profile cases. He cites Chuck Ritter (Green Beret) who was shot multiple times with 7.62x54R and survived, and uses these examples to illustrate the complexity of interpreting ballistic evidence. - Mitch asserts that multiple plausible explanations exist for Kirk’s wounds and stresses that the exact ammunition type, projectile, and ballistic conditions are unknown at present. He emphasizes that investigators possess DNA and surveillance records (DNA on the firearm, trigger, cartridge, towel used by Tyler Robinson) and text messages; he notes that Mitch is not claiming to know the entire truth but wants to see corroborating evidence. - The two discuss the possibility of government involvement or manipulation, while acknowledging that ballistics alone cannot prove a broader conspiracy. They note the challenges of obtaining complete ballistic data before trials, and they express openness to future verification once more information becomes available (e.g., during trial proceedings). - Custody, investigations, and accountability: - Mitch recounts the broader pattern of SF members being targeted by legal systems when in contentious custody situations, with accusations and judgments influenced by SF status. He cites examples of coercion, character assassination, and the weaponization of families in court battles. - They discuss how the FBI and other agencies have handled high-profile cases, noting distrust in narratives presented by authorities and media. They acknowledge that public transparency is essential, even as prosecutions proceed. - Platform, vetting, and next steps: - The two plan to continue the vetting process: Mitch will provide DD214 and related documents to Gary, who promises to verify and not disclose sensitive information without Mitch’s consent. They discuss sending further documents via email or text (Gary’s Paramount Tactical contact). - Mitch expresses a desire to appear on Gary’s show and to connect with Nate (Nate Chapman) for collaborative vetting. Gary commits to facilitating, offering to act as an advocate if Mitch’s story is verified and to help set up communications with Nate and Candace as appropriate. - The conversation closes with both agreeing on the importance of truth, corroboration, and accountability. They acknowledge the risk and the emotional toll of revealing sensitive histories but emphasize their commitment to pursuing the truth and preventing misinformation or manipulation. Overall, the transcript captures a tense, exploratory exchange between two veterans and affiliates about verifying SF credentials, the personal toll of custody and legal battles, the influence of political narratives, and the complexities of ballistics and forensics in high-profile incidents. The participants stress verification through documents, corroboration of anecdotes, and cautious, integrity-driven engagement with media figures and audiences.

Two speakers discuss a tip about video footage of Tyler Robinson. The informant says "I've been trying to get in touch with Candace Owens" and that "the FBI came to my job... and informed me that his phone pinged in this parking lot." They say the FBI was "going in her shopping center... to retrieve video footage" and shows "Tyler Robinson's car pulling into the parking lot" with a "white SUV" nearby. They claim "This video specifically doesn't make sense" because a person who just committed an assassination would not linger in a parking lot. They reference "surveillance footage" from the FBI in Utah that shows Tyler jumping off the roof and argue the rifle was "reassembled again." They cite Candace Owens' insider saying Tyler never admitted to being on UVU campus and question why law enforcement has not released the full footage, suggesting possible involvement of others.

Claim: 'Because we now have CCTV footage of Tyler Robinson at a different location than the university twenty minutes after the shooting.' The footage comes from 'convict to conservative,' a channel with 536 followers, pushed to 5-10k. 'Les Effer Lounge' (Pia) DM’d Ryan that she has footage of Tyler twenty minutes after the shooting; the FBI pinged Tyler's cell phone at this location and asked for CCTV. She shows security cams and asks, 'do you guys want me to do anything with this?' The FBI replied, 'That's all we needed. We got copies of it.' Time stamps: 12:44; 12:46; 12:47. The footage 'shed so much shade on the FBI's narrative' and questions why Tyler would be in a parking lot after the allegedly 'blew Charlie Kirk's head off.' Text messages: 'the FBI, when the cell phone was turned on, it sent a signal, and he said it was here.'

Candace Owens: Shabbat shalom and Hanukkah wishes. Israel has a right to defend itself. Then she riffs about Tucker Carlson and TikTok, but shifts to recount of a four-and-a-half hour meeting with Turning Point USA, Erica, Justin Streiff, and others to address questions and concerns. Candace Owens: She emphasizes she invited Erica and others to answer questions, noting there were no rules in the room for that four-and-a-half hour session; the aim was to get clear answers and understand what Turning Point USA could or could not disclose. She describes the participants: Justin Streiff, Erica, George for part of it, her cousin Mia for vibes, and later George leaving. She explains her goal was to determine why Turning Point USA hadn’t answered basic questions and to address what she saw as miscommunications and lies. Candace Owens: Erica owned apparent lies or miscommunications early in the discussion, explaining that 650 employees can be emotional and that messages circulating on Twitter didn’t always reflect management’s communications. She references a prior interview with Glenn Beck and a viral clip about Charlie’s phone, clarifying Erica looked at Charlie’s iMessages and found he used Signal and Telegram, not regular texting. Andrew Kolbet (Kolbet) told her that Andrew did receive a message the night before the shooting saying “they’re going to kill me,” and she notes that Dan Flood received a similar message; she cautions about confirming the exact wording for Dan’s message. Candace Owens: She contends that some content from Barry Weiss’s interview was planned and not random, and that Barry Weiss asked questions that were directed; Erica said she knew the general idea but not the exact Candace Owens question. Candace maintains she did not recant her suspicions and lists concerns about specific Turning Point USA figures: Terrell Farnsworth allegedly lied about camera disruptions; Blake Neff and Mikey McCoy’s call logs were discussed, with Candace blaming Terrell’s actions and questioning the credibility of Tyler Boyer and Rob McCoy. She notes Rob McCoy does not work for Turning Point USA, contradicting the sense that he was “America’s pastor” at Memorial and that his Wikipedia entry had been updated accordingly. Candace Owens: She discusses the “magic bullet” and the texting around Charlie Kirk’s shooting. She recounts Andrew Kolbet’s claim that a surgeon stated the bullet should have gone through Charlie and could have killed those behind him; she emphasizes Andrew went to the surgeon and claimed permission to post but acknowledges questions about HIPAA. She notes investigators later indicated the surgeon didn’t know Andrew before the tweet, and that Kolbet’s post reflected an unverified account. Candace Owens: She describes the security around the event, the involvement of Brian Harpole in interviews (Sean Ryan) and a lack of certainty about whether he still works with Turning Point USA. She says that investigators are in an ongoing process, that no one from Turning Point USA or Erica has seen new evidence beyond what the public has, and that an May probable cause hearing will reveal concrete evidence. She criticizes media narratives that declare “the evidence is overwhelming” and argues for a cautious, transparent approach, acknowledging she had pressed for more concrete proof before publicly asserting involvement of specific individuals. Candace Owens: She reveals she asked for Mikey McCoy’s logs and confirms Mikey’s real name, sharing that Mikey called his wife first, then his father, and only later added Erica to the call, with subsequent calls involving his brother. She notes Blake Neff’s call with his mother and the timeline around the shooting, addressing discrepancies in various retellings and emphasizing the need for accuracy in call logs. Candace Owens: She mentions the Hamptons retreat and alleged lies, referencing Seth Dillon’s confrontation with Charlie Kirk and concerns about funding offers from BB Netanyahu to take Turning Point USA to the next level, which she says Erica denied knowing about, while noting multiple sources confirmed the offer. She clarifies she never asserted a $150,000,000 figure, only that there were discussions about taking Turning Point to the next level and that the offer’s gravity raises questions. Candace Owens: She returns to Egyptian planes, promising an upcoming interactive timeline on her site showing planes’ patterns and how they tie to Israel, arguing this is part of the broader pattern they are following. She notes that planes regularly fly in and out of Israel with transponders off, and she plans to present this evidence tomorrow, inviting scrutiny of those planes’ activity. Candace Owens: The segment ends with a tease about presenting the Egyptian planes evidence and transitions to sponsor mentions.