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Six years ago I made a film with Kathy Newman for Channel 4 called The Prince and the Pedophile about Jeffrey Epstein and Prince Andrew. In the wake of that film, I had lengthy telephone conversations with Virginia Roberts Giuffre (Virginia Dufry), Epstein’s best known victim, who told me all the men she was farmed out to and that it would not surprise me if President Trump was striving to protect those people. I don’t understand why the Jeffrey Epstein case would be of interest to anybody. It’s pretty boring stuff. These people who gathered around Epstein were not outlandish freaks or outcasts; they were a representative sample of the American business, political, and academic world, the American elite. It’s hardly surprising that both parties, when out of power, demand openness around this case, but when in power they are less interested in all the names. He’s dead. He’s gone. It’s all been a big hoax, perpetrated by the Democrats, with some foolish Republicans falling into the net. Epstein was very probably connected to the intelligence services, to American and possibly Israeli intelligence. He may have had compromising material tapes of powerful men, contributing to why he got away with his actions for so long. He illustrates the power, privilege, and impunity of a tiny elite of fabulously rich people who effectively run the world. Virginia was aware of Donald Trump as a sleazy presence around Epstein and moved in the same world. There was a period when they were close friends, though she was clear she was never abused by him. Virginia was recruited by Epstein while working at Mar-a-Lago. In a 2002 magazine profile, Trump called Epstein a terrific guy who likes women, many of them on the younger side. Trump and Epstein later had a falling out, but they were part of that world together. Epstein died in a prison cell. Today, Trump is president. After coming to power, Trump’s Justice Department released the Epstein papers; the released versions were heavily redacted, while the versions we had were unredacted. I have the flight logs and the little black book. Alexander Acosta, Epstein’s ally and Trump’s Labor Secretary-designate, reportedly said in hearings that Epstein belonged to intelligence and to be left alone. Epstein had connections to intelligence services, probably Mossad and American intelligence. Ghislain Maxwell’s father, Robert Maxwell, had extensive intelligence links; he was buried on the Mount of Olives, with eulogies by Israeli figures. Virginia described the abuse she suffered at Epstein’s hands and the enablers around him, including Ghislaine Maxwell, whom Virginia called “Mary fucking Poppins” and described as a sadistic abuser and facilitator. Virginia told me she was abused by a string of men Epstein presented to her, including prominent figures in business and politics and, obviously, Prince Andrew and world leaders. The number of them who were sadomasochistic was extraordinary; one man nearly killed her. She was angry watching Prince Andrew’s interview, angered by his arrogance and belief he would get away with it. I can tell you categorically I don’t remember meeting her; there are questions about a doctored photograph. Epstein’s smirking was noted by someone who knew him, as if he knew things others didn’t. The Little Black Book was Ghislain Maxwell’s book, as evidenced by the British numbers versus American numbers, with many entries overlapping with the flight logs. Epstein referred to Peter Mandelson as “Petey,” and Mandelson is one of the two pictured with Epstein in a casual outing and at Epstein’s birthday. There is no suggestion Mandelson was criminally involved, but he was seen in Epstein’s circle, presenting a mysterious closed world of power. Epstein’s death has raised questions about surveillance footage; three minutes are missing from the prison surveillance released by the American government. Epstein, a former Bear Stearns employee and later involved in a pyramid scheme with Steve Hoffenberg, moved into advising Les Wexner and other ventures. He received a sweetheart deal in Florida in 2006–2007, serving about a year with day release, and only faced justice again in 2019. Epstein’s circle largely walked away unscathed. Virginia’s case did not progress in the UK; Prince Andrew was reportedly settled for about £12,000,000 to Virginia’s charity, a sum funded ultimately by the public. Virginia’s recent death involved a car accident and divorce troubles; conspiracies surround her death, though her family sees nothing suspicious. Virginia’s experiences, and the stories of Epstein, Maxwell, and others, highlight the power and privilege of the wealthy and privileged, and the need for independent media outlets like Double Dan News, which I urge you to support via Patreon.

I had a story for three years about an interview with Virginia Roberts, but we were told not to air it because no one knew who Jeffrey Epstein was. The Palace found out about our allegations against Prince Andrew and threatened us, so we didn't want to lose the opportunity to interview Kate and Will. Alan Dershowitz was also implicated. We had evidence, including pictures, and convinced Roberts to come out of hiding and talk to us. I tried for three years to get the story out, and now I'm angry because it's all coming out and we had everything. Other women supported the claims, and Brad Edwards, the attorney, said three years ago that we would realize Epstein was prolific.

We had Virginia Roberts' allegations about Prince Andrew and others, including Alan Dershowitz and Clinton. Despite trying for 3 years, we couldn't air it. Roberts had evidence and was in hiding for 12 years. Epstein's death was likely murder due to his blackmailing activities. Many powerful men were involved.

The speakers question how someone could be convicted of 34 crimes while no one on Epstein's list has been charged, suggesting a possible effort to protect pedophiles and asking why the FBI would protect the "largest scale pederist in human history." One speaker claims everyone in politics has a vice "much worse than alcoholism." There is a call to release the Epstein list. One speaker says the DOJ may release the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients and that it is sitting on their desk to review, directed by President Trump. They claim to have flight logs and names that will come out. One speaker says they will never let the story go because of what they heard from a source about Bill Clinton on a plane with Jeffrey Epstein. Another speaker expresses disbelief that people are still talking about Epstein.

- The conversation opens with a claim that the Epstein affair is a smokescreen for something more sinister, implying high-level involvement or covert operations. - Allegations about Epstein's material include a set of videos: “sex video with a minor,” “twenty seven minute video called threesome,” “nineteen minute video called underage girl sex video,” and other listed clips. The speakers debate whether Epstein liked underage girls or used them for blackmail. - Victoria (Lady Victoria) states Epstein was “definitely connected to intelligence,” suggesting he could have been used by intelligence services to obtain or exchange information. - There is a claim that “two foreign girls were buried on orders of Jeffrey Epstein and Madame Ghislain Maxwell” near the Zoro Ranch, presented as a source-based assertion. - Discussion of Prince Andrew’s arrest: Victoria describes it as brutal and shocking, noting the king attended a London Fashion Week event during the arrest. She argues the palace seems infiltrated by anti-monarchists and criticizes the decision to strip Andrew of his titles as a potential destabilizing act. - David Kay Johnston is mentioned (via a journalist offered by the show), suggesting the arrest was a public warning to others implicated in the files. - The presenters discuss how the royal household, including King Charles, distanced itself and how media dynamics influence public perception. Victoria contends the palace’s communications head is a former Daily Mail staffer, implying media manipulation. - The discussion covers Epstein’s role as an envoy and possible involvement in sharing state secrets, including alleged emails about British aid to Afghanistan and other sensitive information. Victoria argues Andrew was not a formal diplomat but held an honorary position. - The guests examine an email chain alleging an Epstein plane landing at a British RAF base, debating whether private jets at RAF facilities require official approval and whether royal status adds a layer of protection or privilege. - They critique later media presentations of Epstein files, noting the FBI’s long redaction of names and the public’s tendency to draw sensational conclusions from redacted material. They acknowledge the complexity of distinguishing victims, redactions, and potential fabrications. - There is a debate about the credibility of victims’ accounts: some victims’ stories are asserted to be truthful, others to be exaggerated or manipulated by media. Victoria emphasizes that many victims are drug addicts and that some claims may be driven by sensationalism or manipulation. - The conversation touches the redaction and release of documents: Victoria argues that redactions create a misleading impression, while the other participant contends the FBI may be withholding information for security reasons. They note that public access to the files is incomplete and contested. - MK Ultra and CIA involvement are discussed as possible explanations for manipulation: Victoria claims that many of the girls might have memory distortions or implanted memories, suggesting MK Ultra-like programming. She links butterfly logos and certain psychedelics to MK Ultra and proposes that intelligence agencies could have used blackmail to influence political or diplomatic outcomes. - There is substantial debate about a blackmail operation: the other participant asserts Epstein ran a blackmail network, potentially with the lawyers acting as intermediaries and witnesses, while suggesting some victims were coerced or incentivized to participate in harmful activities. - The dialogue introduces the theory that intelligence agencies may have protected Epstein in order to exploit his access to sensitive information, using him as an asset for leverage or negotiated outcomes, possibly involving foreign leaders or critical geopolitical deals. Victoria suggests multiple countries (Saudi Arabia, Israel, the US) could be implicated, and hints at a broader “intelligence operation” aimed at destabilizing or discrediting powerful figures, including the royal family. - The participants discuss various photos and videos in Epstein-related files, including a contentious image involving Prince Andrew, Virginia Giuffre (Dufrey), and others. They debate whether the image is authentic or fake, and whether the subjects were underage, with Victoria arguing that the public redactions obscure the truth and that the image’s context is critical. - There is mention of a controversial claim that Ghislain Maxwell claims the photo is fake and a separate PR statement was never used due to inaccuracies. Victoria argues Maxwell would want to contest allegations through official channels. - The broader question of “who would be behind such a massive setup?” arises: the hosts consider intelligence agencies (CIA, Mossad) as plausible executors, with some mention of MI6 and broader geopolitical actors. They debate whether Israel, the CIA, Mossad, and other parties could be coordinating a “monarchy takedown” or a larger anti-establishment campaign. - Toward the end, the dialogue returns to Epstein’s death: some guests argue Epstein was killed (or possibly swapped bodies) while others suggest he could still be alive. They reference autopsy discrepancies, ear comparisons, and alleged decoy bodies, expressing ongoing uncertainty about Epstein’s fate and whether the FBI/CIA/Mossad investigations are fully transparent. - The discussion closes with deference to ongoing investigations, the role of the media, and a sense that the Epstein dossier intersects with international power struggles, conspiracy theories, and contested narratives around intelligence agencies, royal figures, and victims’ accounts.

The former CEO of Abercrombie and Fitch, Mike Jeffries, was arrested in connection to a sex trafficking case. Rapper and music executive Sean Combs may be linked to a sex trafficking investigation. Jeffrey Epstein may have been the most prolific pedophile this country has ever known. The speaker claims to have had the story and an interview with Virginia Roberts for three years, but it was not aired.

I sat on a huge story for three years after interviewing Virginia Roberts. At first, nobody knew who Jeffrey Epstein was and the story was killed. Then the palace found out about the allegations against Prince Andrew. They threatened us in so many ways. We were afraid of losing access to Prince William and Kate. Alan Dershowitz was also implicated. Roberts had pictures and told me everything. She'd been in hiding for years and we convinced her to come forward. The story was unbelievable. It had Clinton, everything. I tried for three years to get it on air, but couldn't. Now that it's all coming out, I'm so pissed. I had it all. We had other women backing it up. Brad Edwards said three years ago that one day, we'd realize Epstein was the most prolific pedophile this country has ever known.

For three years, I held onto this story and an interview with Virginia Roberts. We couldn't air it because powerful people, including Prince Andrew, threatened us. We were scared to lose access to Kate and Will, so we dropped the story. Virginia had evidence and shared everything, including involvement from Clinton. Do I believe he was murdered? Absolutely.

A source told the speaker that while on temporary assignment with Bill Clinton's security detail, the source witnessed Clinton boarding a plane with underage girls. The source claimed Clinton disappeared to the back of the plane with the girls, and after landing, the source refused to continue on the detail. Shortly after, all the agents on that detail began reporting their BlackBerries as missing. Later, while at Fox, a reporter told the speaker that Epstein was an intelligence asset for people in the Middle East, either wittingly or unwittingly. The reporter claimed the assumption that Epstein exclusively possessed the videotapes from his plane and island is a mistake. According to the reporter, other intelligence agencies may have had his plane wired and possess the blackmail material. The speaker suggests that foreign powers could be using these videos to influence powerful people.

The speaker asserts that there are thousands of hours of tape that are child pornography, and the FBI is not releasing them because the tapes do not show underage people with third parties on Epstein Island; according to the speaker, “those tapes are just child porn,” and that is why they are not being released. Regarding the Epstein list, the speaker says sources in the federal government have seen documents and claim there is no Epstein list. Instead, there is a “black book of Jeffrey Epstein contact,” and most of the contacts are already public, with names such as Prince Andrew or Alan Dershowitz commonly mentioned. The speaker claims that, according to the DOJ and the FBI, there is no evidence that any of those third parties were trafficking girls to them. The speaker then references Tucker Carlson asserting that Mossad was involved, noting that this is a hot internet speculation without evidence. In addressing this, Naftali Bennett, the former Israeli prime minister, is cited as stating with 100% certainty that the accusation Epstein “worked for Israel or the Mossad running a blackmail ring is categorically and totally false.” Bennett reportedly told the speaker that the Mossad has not been active in the United States since the Jonathan Pollard scandal of 1987, when a US army contractor working for the Navy revealed classified information to the Israeli government and was imprisoned for nearly thirty years. According to Bennett, Israel has not spied on the United States since then.

For three years, I held onto this story and an interview with Virginia Roberts. At first, no one knew who Jeffrey Epstein was, so we were told it was a stupid story. Then the palace got wind of the allegations against Prince Andrew and threatened us in various ways. We were scared we wouldn't be able to interview Kate, so we dropped the story. Virginia had evidence, including pictures, and she was in hiding for 12 years. Eventually, we convinced her to come forward and speak to us. The information we had on Clinton was unbelievable. We had everything.

For three years, I held onto a story and an interview with Virginia Roberts. We couldn't air it because powerful individuals, including Prince Andrew, threatened us. We were scared to lose access to Kate and Will, so we shelved the story. Virginia shared everything, including pictures, and Clinton was involved. Do I believe he was killed? Absolutely.

The speaker states they had an interview with Virginia Roberts three years ago, but it was not aired. They were initially told the story was "stupid" because no one knew who Jeffrey Epstein was. The palace threatened them after finding out about Roberts' allegations regarding Prince Andrew. They feared losing access to interviews with Kate and Will, which further suppressed the story. Alan Dershowitz was also implicated. The speaker says Roberts had pictures and was in hiding for twelve years. The speaker claims they convinced her to come out and talk, and that they had information implicating Clinton, among others. They express frustration that the story is only now coming out. They also mention other women backing up Roberts' claims and Brad Edwards' assertion three years ago that Epstein was the most prolific pedophile in the country.

The speaker questions why FBI keeps records secret, suspects cover-up. Names in FBI report redacted, including Lady Rothschild, linked to Epstein, Clinton, and Prince Andrew. Epstein had blackmail material, as confirmed by conversations with speaker. More evidence of blackmail likely hidden.

The speaker believes Jeffrey Epstein was connected to intelligence, as Vicki Ward reported, and that the DOJ was told to leave him alone in 2008. They claim there's been a cover-up and will publish a video detailing the exact documents the DOJ should seek and individuals to question. The speaker believes the Epstein intelligence connection hasn't been investigated due to the Pandora's box it opens. They think public outrage might force some disclosure. The speaker attributes the suppression of information to a combination of donors and national security officials with intersecting interests who have influence over the White House and executive branch agencies. They claim Trump World donors were involved in Epstein's network. If Epstein's intelligence ties are confirmed, every aspect of his career would be scrutinized to determine which intelligence agency was involved, triggering intense investigation into his dealings. This, combined with donor pressure, has created a power struggle for the White House.

The speaker discusses public outrage following claims from the Department of Justice and FBI that there was no Epstein client list, no blackmail, and that Epstein killed himself. Pam Bondi stated she had a file to review, including JFK and MLK files. While there may not be a single client list, Bill Clinton's name appeared in Epstein's phone log 21 times, and flight logs show numerous trips to Epstein's island. Bondi said flight logs with many names would be released, but they have not been. Bondi stated that thousands of videos turned out to be child porn downloaded by Epstein, but reports indicate Epstein's residences were rigged with video cameras capturing footage of bedrooms and bathrooms. The FBI seized hundreds of hard drives, USBs, CDs, and backup servers from Epstein's properties, some labeled "nude girl pics." Bondi had no knowledge of Epstein being an agent. Epstein had over $500 million and three US passports, plus an Australian passport listing Saudi Arabia as his home country. The speaker concludes that the current narrative attempts to rewrite what is known about Epstein and that the hope for transparency has been snuffed out.

For three years, I had an interview with Virginia Roberts, but we couldn't air it. At first, no one knew who Jeffrey Epstein was, so they dismissed it as a stupid story. Then the palace got involved and threatened us because of her allegations against Prince Andrew. We were scared of losing the chance to interview Kate and Will, so we dropped the story. Alan Dershowitz was also implicated. Virginia had evidence and was in hiding for 12 years, but we convinced her to talk. We had everything, including Clinton. I tried for three years to make it public, and now I'm furious because it's all coming out. We had it all, with other women supporting her claims. Brad Edwards, the attorney, said three years ago that Epstein was the most prolific pedophile in the country.

I've had the story for three years, including an interview with Virginia Roberts, but we couldn't air it. Initially, I was told no one knew who Jeffrey Epstein was and that it was a stupid story. The palace learned about the allegations against Prince Andrew and threatened us, which made us hesitant. Despite having substantial evidence and other women backing her up, I couldn't get the story out. Now, with new revelations surfacing, I'm frustrated because we had everything. ABC News issued a statement claiming they have been investigating, but it feels like a cover-up. Amy Robach's private comments reveal more honesty than their official stance, suggesting there's more to the story than ABC is admitting. Stay tuned for more insider information.

ABC News anchorwoman Amy Robach reveals in a leaked tape that she had the Jeffrey Epstein story three years ago, but her bosses at ABC News decided not to air it. The story implicated Prince Andrew and Alan Dershowitz, and Robach had evidence and interviews with other women to back it up. The palace and Dershowitz pressured the network to kill the story. Epstein's alleged suicide is also discussed, with Robach believing he was killed. The tape also mentions Ghislaine Maxwell and her involvement in recruiting girls. The identity of the person who spiked the story is unknown, but ABC News president James Goldston is mentioned as someone who may have had knowledge.

I was once told by a reporter at Fox that Epstein was an intelligence asset for people in the Middle East. I didn't know that. This reporter was absolutely sure that Epstein was either a witting or unwitting asset, meaning his plane and island were likely equipped with cameras, and the tapes weren't exclusively in Epstein's custody. The reason certain people wanted the Epstein story to disappear is because they assumed Epstein was the only one with compromising material. According to my source, that wasn't the case. These assets and the blackmail story make sense because of this. I don't know which Middle Eastern countries were involved, but the reporter swore Epstein was an asset. They may have had his plane wired and have all the compromising material. How do we know some countries aren't influencing power players with blackmail?

Host: Epstein is Pizzagate. Ten years ago, Pizzagate was the top Twitter trend, with the claim that pedophile elites preyed on children deemed insane by many. I was the first mainstream reporter to dare present the facts around Pizzagate; my corporate career was destroyed, and others who suggested it were blacklisted or shadow banned. But just days ago, the largest dump of Epstein files revealed what some of us have been telling you for a decade: Pizzagate is real. Not that there’s a pizza parlor at the center of a child trafficking ring, but that child trafficking rings run by powerful people do exist. Tonight, I want to remind you of what I told you then and compare it to what we have learned. Guest: Pizzagate became a major story when an armed man went to a DC-area pizza place to investigate for himself, firing a rifle at the floor. The media labeled the entire story a hoax or fake news. I spent the last month investigating. So what exactly is Pizzagate? The story known as Pizzagate did not begin with a rumor, nor was it created by Macedonian sheep farmers as CNN claimed. It began with WikiLeaks, authentic verified emails from John Podesta, the chairman of Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign. Those emails were real, and within them were communications that researchers and former law enforcement found unusual. A group of self-proclaimed pedophiles on 4chan and 8chan claimed Podesta was using their coded language. An urban dictionary entry from 2010 confirms that “cheese pizza” is a commonly coded term for child pornography. Host: I want you to see these images. The triangle in the Besta Pizza logo was linked to a “boy lover” image, and Besta Pizza changed its logo after Pizzagate investigators pointed it out, removing the triangle. Guest: Ten years ago I was dismissed as a dangerous conspiracy theorist for suggesting pedophiles and possibly elite pedophiles might use coded language, even though online pedophiles themselves acknowledged it. The new Epstein release mentions the word “pizza” 911 times in emails, often paired with “grape soda.” Examples include: “Well, this is better than a Chinese cookie. Let’s go for pizza and grape soda again.” “Mister Epstein would like to see the menu from the pizza place. Could you someone send it, please?” and a 2014 note: “Are you sitting? Jeffrey says he wants to go out to a pizza place with you.” The emails range around 2014, similar to the Podesta emails published by WikiLeaks, which started the Pizzagate saga. Host: There was talk about the Podesta brothers; John Podesta’s email showed a close relationship with Dennis Hastert, who was sentenced to fifteen months for abusing boys. An email from John Podesta to his brother Tony, “last night was fun,” begins with “still in torture chamber.” A 2009 Epstein email asking “where are you? You okay? I love the torture video” gained attention. Guest: The Epstein files show communications between elites—from a co-owner of an NFL team to billionaires like Elon Musk—described in coverage as a closer look at connections from Hollywood to Washington and beyond. CNN and other outlets allegedly suppressed discussion for a decade, conditioning the public to ignore the topic. There has been no public investigation by local police, the FBI, or others, raising the question of why no investigation has taken place. This is presented as evidence that the establishment protected and sustained this evil by avoiding honest engagement in 2016, choosing mockery over investigation, thereby creating the environment in which the mystery could thrive. Epstein is Pizzagate, and Pizzagate is bigger than Jeffrey Epstein alone.

I had a story for 3 years about an interview with Virginia Roberts. Initially, no one knew who Jeffrey Epstein was, so we couldn't air it. Then the palace got involved and threatened us because of her allegations against Prince Andrew. We were scared of losing the opportunity to interview Kate, so we dropped the story. Alan Dershowitz was also implicated. Virginia had evidence and was in hiding for 12 years, but we convinced her to come forward. Our story had everything, including connections to Clinton.

The speaker claims to have compiled an Epstein client list using victims' testimonies, internal emails, court documents, settlements, financial records, and staff testimony, not a single "black book." This list was released publicly in 2019 but received little attention due to the speaker's prior cancellation for opposing Israel. The speaker asserts that Epstein was working for a foreign government, compromising powerful Americans. Contrary to popular belief, people *have* been prosecuted and companies have paid large settlements related to Epstein, but it's not publicized. Jean Luc Brunel, allegedly the number three man in the Epstein ring, was arrested but died in prison. The speaker believes the truth about Epstein is being ignored, similar to 9/11 conspiracy theories. They state that videos from Epstein's properties exist and that many pedophiles and human traffickers are being arrested, but the media is silent. The speaker shares pages from the list and urges someone with media reach to discuss the issue.

ABC News anchorwoman Amy Robach reveals in a leaked tape that she had the Jeffrey Epstein story three years ago, but her bosses at ABC News refused to air it. She claims that pressure from Buckingham Palace and Alan Dershowitz, Epstein's defense attorney, led to the story being quashed. Robach says that Virginia Roberts, who had evidence and pictures, was in hiding for 12 years before agreeing to speak with them. She expresses frustration that the story is now coming out and believes Epstein was killed because he had incriminating information on powerful men. Robach also mentions Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein's alleged conspirator, and warns that she should be careful. The insider who leaked the tape does not know who at ABC News killed the story.

The speaker discusses the high-profile individuals who were associated with Jeffrey Epstein, including Prince Andrew, Naomi Campbell, Kevin Spacey, Bill Clinton, and Hillary Clinton. They question how many of these people who visited Epstein's private jet, island, and ranch were involved in the exploitation of children. They also mention that Epstein was well-known but evaded legal consequences due to fear. The speaker criticizes Sydney McCain for not taking action against Epstein despite her knowledge of him. They conclude by stating that Epstein's death was likely not a suicide, similar to Jeffrey Epstein's case.