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Twenty percent of Americans did not take the COVID vaccine because it was not safe enough. The mRNA in the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines has been chemically modified to resist breakdown by enzymes. The mRNA and spike protein are found in the heart and brain, and the spike protein circulates in the blood for six to nine months post-vaccination. The speaker claims the lethal part of the virus circulates in the blood of vaccinated individuals, especially after boosters, and that it is a killer protein. The speaker asserts safety trumps efficacy and objects to claims that vaccines, specifically the COVID-19 vaccine, saved millions of lives. They state that consent forms do not guarantee the vaccine will save lives and that there has never been a prospective, randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial showing that COVID-19 vaccines reduce mortality or hospitalization.

The speaker claims the vaccine saved hundreds of thousands of lives but acknowledges side effects and breakthrough infections. The speaker argues that the vaccine was claimed to stop transmission and infection, but it did not. An argument ensues with someone who disagrees, with accusations of being crazy and shutting up. The speaker denies using ad hominem attacks.

The discussion revolves around the safety and efficacy of COVID vaccines. Speaker 0 believes vaccines have done more good than harm, citing personal experiences. Speaker 1 argues that vaccines did not reduce severity, hospitalization, or death, as the virus became milder and early treatment improved outcomes. They claim misclassification bias in reporting vaccine-related deaths and point to high post-vaccine mortality rates. Calls are made to remove vaccines due to safety concerns.

Michael Kane shares his positive experience with the COVID vaccine, while a grieving mother urges people not to take it. Morgan Freeman, though not a doctor, trusts science and encourages others to get vaccinated. The importance of vaccinating as many people as possible is emphasized, especially to prevent the spread of variants. Concerns about vaccine safety and side effects are raised, with personal stories of adverse reactions shared. The need for long-term safety data, especially for children, is highlighted. Some individuals question the existence of COVID and criticize the vaccine rollout. A doctor argues against current vaccination strategies, citing lack of scientific evidence. The transcript ends with a humorous exchange about getting vaccinated.

The speaker expresses concerns about the COVID-19 vaccines, stating that they believe these vaccines are the most toxic and damaging pharmaceutical products ever released. They highlight the profitability of the industry, mentioning the revenues of Pfizer and other companies. The speaker claims that around 10-15% of vaccine recipients have experienced serious injuries, with 1% being permanently disabled and 0.1% dying. They emphasize that these statistics are based on CDC and US insurance data.

People glaze over when the possibility that "these things" caused problems is raised. Some confidently state the COVID vaccine saved millions of lives, but it's unclear how they know this. Many people know others who were negatively affected by the vaccine but don't want to admit it, claiming correlation isn't causation. The news scared people with death tolls, and there's a lot of money involved, including huge bonuses for fully vaccinated kids. Instead of attacking those who say this, it should be investigated as a potential conflict of interest.

Some people who raised concerns about vaccine side effects were silenced to prevent vaccine hesitancy. Vaccines are crucial for older individuals but may not be as critical for younger people. While vaccines have saved lives, some individuals have experienced significant side effects. It is important to acknowledge these issues despite the benefits vaccines provide.

The speaker claims the vaccine saved lives, specifically 100 to 1000 lives, while acknowledging side effects and breakthrough infections. The speaker asserts the vaccine stopped transmission and infection, but this claim is immediately challenged. The speaker repeats that it did stop transmission and infection. Another person denies this claim. The first speaker tells the other person to shut up and says they are done hearing their "little woman voice." The first speaker then denies making an ad hominem attack.

The speaker claims that vaccines are not safe or effective, particularly the COVID-19 jab. They believe that those who promote and administer vaccines should be imprisoned, and parents who allow their children to be vaccinated should have their children taken away. They argue that COVID-19 was created to make the flu seem more dangerous, even though flu statistics show it can be deadlier. The speaker also suggests that the COVID-19 jab weakens the immune system, affects DNA, and can cause cancer. They criticize doctors for administering the vaccine to various groups, including toddlers, patients, school children, and pilots. Lastly, they believe that getting the COVID-19 vaccine is either suicide or murder.

Various studies and reports have raised concerns about the negative effects of COVID-19 vaccines. The CDC has acknowledged that around 115 Americans died shortly after receiving the vaccine, while over 18,000 deaths have been reported to them. However, it is believed that these numbers are underreported, and the actual death toll may be much higher. Some estimates suggest that up to 506,000 individuals may have died from the vaccine in the US alone. Globally, the death toll could be as high as 17 million. Despite these alarming figures, no country has removed the vaccines from the market. In comparison, the number of deaths attributed to COVID-19 may have been overstated, with an estimated 120,000 deaths being more accurate. This means that the number of deaths from the vaccine could be five times higher than the actual deaths from the disease. The speaker argues that the trade-off between lives lost to the virus and lives saved by the vaccine is unethical, as COVID-19 is treatable and people should not have to risk their lives with a vaccine.

Speaker 0 questions the idea that Doctor Fauci is involved in a plot to kill millions, seeking clarity on the claim. Speaker 1 says they are reasonable and that Fauci is not an innocent bystander; he is aware of what he’s doing, but the extent of involvement is not known to them. Speaker 2 cites the Center for Countering Digital Hate, stating Dirashad Bhattar is one of the top spreaders of COVID disinformation, once with more than a million followers. Bhattar allegedly claimed “More people are dying from the COVID vaccine than from COVID,” and that “the Red Cross won’t accept blood from people who have had the COVID nineteen vaccine.” He posted that “most who took COVID vaccines will be dead by 2025,” and promoted the overarching conspiracy that COVID was a planned operation as part of a secret global plot to depopulate the earth. Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 2 believes the pandemic was planned; Speaker 2 confirms there is a suspicion of a plan to reduce the population, though Speaker 1 says they have no idea. Speaker 2 criticizes Bhattar, saying it would be laughable if it weren’t so dangerous and that Qatar (Qatar’s commentary) compares COVID and the vaccine to World War II and Doctor Anthony Fauci to Adolf Hitler. Speaker 1 pushes back by asking to what extent Fauci would be equated with Hitler. Speaker 3 asserts that lies cost lives in a pandemic, and that encouraging people not to vaccinate will cause people to lose their lives. Speaker 2 describes Qatar as encouraging distrust of life-saving vaccines and using false, twisted information and unproven conspiracies to do so. Speaker 0 asks if the COVID vaccine works. Speaker 1 states the vaccine is very effective at what it was designed for, but “it’s not preventing death. Certainly not.” Speaker 2 contradicts, claiming that Bhattar believes life-saving vaccines are more dangerous than the virus itself, and Speaker 1 asks why the vaccine would cause more deaths than the problem itself, noting 6,340,000,000 doses administered. Speaker 0 requests the completion of a sentence about what each vaccine is geared up for, but Speaker 1 says he’s not a vaccine developer and mentions “Scientific corruption.” Speaker 2 notes Qatar has been removed from Facebook and Instagram due to disinformation but remains on Twitter, Telegram, and his own site, filled with falsehoods. Speaker 0 recalls a September 5 retweet of a doctored AstraZeneca packaging photo suggesting the vaccine was made in 2018; Speaker 1 says the photo was perhaps fake, and questions why Speaker 0 would challenge the agencies that have caused deaths. Speaker 0 argues it’s reasonable to question agencies, noting Speaker 1 had 1,200,000 followers who received false information; Speaker 1 admits if a tweet with a doctor’s photo was sent in error, it was a mistake, and he cannot make mistakes on the numbers. Speaker 2 notes vaccine studies showing vaccines remain ninety percent effective in preventing hospitalization and death, while Qatar claims the vaccine is the danger. Speaker 1 counters that thousands are dying and the delta variant is “vaccine injured,” citing CDC data, which Speaker 0 disputes as not true. Speaker 1 asserts he does not want to be part of a mass genocide and suggests this era will be remembered as a worst time in history, even worse than World War II. Speaker 0 concludes by calling Speaker 1 crazy. Speaker 2 ends with a reference to North Carolina’s Board of Medicine reprimanding someone prior to COVID.

The speaker claims that vaccines are ineffective, using Israel as an example. They also mention a whistleblower revealing falsified death numbers after vaccination. Serious side effects like neurological disorders, thromboses, and myocarditis are mentioned. Experts predict problems for vaccinated individuals when encountering the wild virus due to immune system damage caused by the vaccines. The speaker alleges that the CDC was aware of the side effects before the vaccine rollout. The manufacturers are accused of not knowing the effectiveness or dangers of their vaccines but demand immunity from claims. They also insist on their products being purchased even if alternative treatments exist.

In the Pfizer trial, more people died who received the vaccine than the placebo. The clinical trial showed one life could be saved from COVID for every 22,000 people vaccinated. However, more people died in the trial from the vaccine itself. While vaccines may have saved 10,000 lives in a year, at least 150,000 people have been killed by the vaccine, according to VAERS data. The speaker claims that 150,000 deaths is the cost of saving 10,000 lives, and that the risk benefit is even worse for kids, where 117 kids are killed to save one life. Doctors are allegedly not allowed to talk about deaths caused by the vaccine.

The speaker discusses the vaccine's link to death and disability, citing over 37,000 deaths globally reported on VAERS. They criticize regulators for not addressing this issue earlier and mention a conversation with Francis Collins about vaccine-related deaths. The speaker also mentions a conversation with Dr. Redfield, who admitted downplaying vaccine injuries to avoid creating hesitancy. Dr. Redfield acknowledged that there are more injuries than reported.

The speaker claims colored vaccines are dangerous, with no clinical benefit and over 10,000,000 deaths worldwide. They suggest avoiding vaccination altogether, citing studies showing unvaccinated kids are healthier. They criticize censorship by the government and medical boards, leading to job loss and license revocation for speaking out against the narrative. The medical journals are also deemed corrupt. Speaker 1 mentions not every batch causes harm, as they themselves took a few shots without issue.

People discuss vaccine misinformation on social media. Some believe in vaccine mandates, while others question their effectiveness. Personal experiences with vaccines vary, with some reporting adverse reactions. The importance of vaccination for public health is emphasized, despite differing opinions on mandates and vaccine safety. Concerns are raised about potential cover-ups and the need for further research on vaccine adverse events. Overall, the debate centers on the efficacy, safety, and societal impact of COVID-19 vaccines.

The transcript presents a polarized view on mRNA COVID vaccines. It states: "the US Department of Health and Human Services is slashing a half billion dollars in government funding from mRNA vaccine development." It notes mixed messages: "the FDA is fast tracking possible coronavirus vaccine" and "The mRNA vaccine... has probably saved about three million lives." Personal stories describe injuries: "a week after his vaccination, Joel's health began to rapidly decline," leading to transverse myelitis; Toby and Jessica recount autoimmune-like symptoms and chronic pain. Critics argue that "lipid nanoparticles go everywhere in the body, To the brain, to the bone marrow, to the liver, to the spleen, most importantly to the reproductive organs" and that "the spike protein is the toxic part of this virus that causes clotting, that causes inflammation, that causes myocarditis, that causes brain fog." Robert Malone and others claim "the evidence about the adverse events from the vaccines is unequivocal. It is absolutely overwhelming." The piece highlights advocacy groups and calls for more safety research and support for the vaccine-injured.

The speakers discuss a broad denial about vaccine injuries and the idea that, despite evidence, the medical establishment and political figures push the narrative that vaccines are safe and effective. They claim that many people who are vaccinated want to move on and avoid acknowledging serious side effects, including turbo cancers, undetected myocarditis, and neurological issues, and that autoimmune disease is being attributed to other causes. They argue that the medical establishment, federal health agencies, and some members of Congress who produce supportive content, such as segments like Steve Colbert’s, advocate for taking the shot. They question how many people were killed or died from the shot, asserting that Bayer’s data shows “close[ly]” to thirty-nine thousand worldwide, and that if only ten percent are reported, the true number would be in the hundreds of thousands. They claim there are millions of adverse events, but that this is denied and covered up. The speakers contend that the shot was not a real vaccine. They describe it as gene therapy rather than a traditional vaccine. They explain a sequence in which a vaccine is typically an attenuated or killed virus that requires adjuvants like aluminum or mercury to stimulate the immune system, because the attenuated or killed virus may not work well on its own. In contrast, they say this shot is mRNA, which is modified so it does not degrade. They describe how it is put into a lipid nanoparticle designed to permeate barriers like the blood-brain barrier, and they assert it would never stay in the arm, distributing all over the body. They claim the lipid nanoparticle allows the mRNA to enter cells, hijack cellular structures, and cause the cells to express spike protein, which the body then attacks as foreign. When asked who is responsible, they reference a “doctor Frankenstein” figure and name Francis Collins, head of the NIH, and Anthony Fauci as possible figures in question. The response indicates that while they consider all of them criminally liable, they would say it is primarily Fauci, with acknowledgment that people like Collins are implicated as well.

The discussion centers on COVID-19 misinformation and the roles of public figures and disinformation spreaders. Speaker 0 questions whether doctor Fauci is involved in a plot to kill millions. Speaker 1 says he cannot confirm involvement but asserts Fauci is not an innocent bystander and is aware of his actions; he doesn’t have the information to determine the extent of Fauci’s involvement. Speaker 2 identifies Dr. Dirashid Bhattar as one of the top spreaders of COVID-19 disinformation on social media, citing the Center for Countering Digital Hate, noting Bhattar once had more than a million followers. The dialogue includes several false or debunked claims attributed to Bhattar. Speaker 1 states that “More people are dying from the COVID vaccine than from COVID,” a claim Speaker 2 labels as not true, along with Bhattar’s assertion that “the Red Cross won’t accept blood from people who have had the COVID vaccine,” and his claim that “most who took COVID vaccines will be dead by 2025.” Bhattar’s broader theory is that COVID was a planned operation, politically motivated as part of a secret global plot to depopulate the earth. Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 1 believes the pandemic was planned; Speaker 1 responds affirmatively but says he has no idea who is behind it. Speaker 2 warns that praising or repeating Bhattar’s views is dangerous, noting Bhattar’s use of false or twisted information to distrust vaccines. The conversation touches on whether the COVID vaccine works; Speaker 1 says the vaccine is “very effective at what it was designed for perhaps,” but “not preventing death.” Speaker 0 challenges this, and Speaker 2 counters that Bhattar doubles down on vaccines being more dangerous than the virus, even in the face of data. A numerical claim is raised: “6,340,000,000 doses of this vaccine have been given,” with implications if the claim were true. Speaker 1 says vaccines are designed with ingredients published and that each vaccine appears to be different, though he concedes not being a vaccine developer. Speaker 2 notes Bhattar has been removed from Facebook and Instagram for disinformation but remains active on Twitter, Telegram, and his own site. Speaker 0 references a September 5 retweet of a photo suggesting AstraZeneca was made in 2018; Speaker 1 acknowledges it could have been fake and questions why Bhattar would share such content. A combined exchange discusses questioning agencies and the consequences of misinformation, with Speaker 0 accusing Bhattar of contributing to a mass misinformation problem and Speaker 1 acknowledging the existence of a large follower base that has received false information. The dialogue closes with a mention of a statement from North Carolina’s Board of Medicine prior to COVID, implying regulatory context or action.

Experts, including the speaker, believe that the COVID-19 vaccine is safe for pregnant women based on extensive research. The vaccines have been proven safe and effective in the general population, without affecting fertility rates. They also provide protection against COVID-19 for pregnant women. The speaker, if pregnant, would definitely get vaccinated as the risks of the vaccine are much lower than the risks of the disease itself. Even children are eager to get vaccinated to regain their normal lives. However, another speaker raises concerns about fetal and chromosomal malformations, premature births, and respiratory issues after mRNA injections. They accuse pharmaceutical companies of hiding information about the deaths of two babies due to transplacental exposure to the vaccine. They call for attorney generals to investigate these claims. The Moderna documents are said to contain similar shocking information.

The speaker expresses concern about the COVID-19 vaccines, stating that they believe these vaccines are the most toxic and damaging pharmaceutical products ever released. They mention the profitability of pharmaceutical companies like Pfizer, Moderna, BioNTech, AstraZeneca, and Johnson & Johnson. The speaker claims that 10-15% of people who received the vaccines have experienced serious injuries, with 1% being permanently disabled and 0.1% dying. They emphasize that these numbers are based on CDC and insurance data. The speaker concludes by noting that 0.1% may seem small, but it represents 1 in 1000 deaths.

We are vaccinating millions, and while there are reports of deaths following vaccinations, there is no evidence that the vaccine causes these deaths. Adverse reactions must be reported, but many go unreported, potentially skewing data. For instance, only 5% of adverse reactions may reach the monitoring database. There have been serious cases, including hospitalizations, that are not being documented properly. Despite the numbers, experts assert that the vaccine is safe and effective. It's crucial for the public to understand that while adverse events will occur, they are often coincidental. The vaccine remains vital for public health, and getting vaccinated is strongly encouraged.

The speaker questions the source of the claim that 20 million lives have been saved. They ask for data and studies to support this number. The response is indirect and the meeting is about to end when the speaker jumps back in to clarify that the 20 million lives saved refers to all vaccines, not just mRNA vaccines. The speaker is unable to ask for further clarification. They find it suspicious that this number is being thrown around without proper explanation. They suggest that these numbers are made up.

The speaker discusses the impact of the vaccine on saving lives and acknowledges that there are side effects. They mention that both the virus and the vaccine have changed over the past two years, leading to transmission and infection. However, there is disagreement between the speakers, with one denying the effectiveness of the vaccine. The conversation becomes heated, with one person telling the other to be quiet.

The speaker questions the validity of claims that millions of lives have been saved by the COVID vaccine, stating that the evidence is weak and based on modeling studies. They argue that the vaccine has serious adverse effects, such as heart problems, and that the reported side effects are likely underreported. They criticize the lack of transparency and suppression of information by institutions and call for rebuilding the system. The speaker believes that the truth about vaccine harms will eventually come out and that getting COVID is not worse for the heart than vaccine side effects, contrary to some claims.