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"I wouldn't be surprised one bit. I am convinced based on my own sources and my own reporting on this story. He wasn't one of ours." "I guess Mossad given his connection to Ghislain Maxwell." "it's possible that that's the reason everything's getting buried." "as for whether he was an agent, that I don't know. I I haven't looked into that. I'll get back to you." "And, Megan, remember, Alexander Acosta in 02/2007, he said he was told to treat Epstein carefully because he was an intel asset." "His subpoena, his search warrant on Jeffrey Epstein's residence was very narrow. It was not the kind of like, let's get everything inside this guy's, you know, dressers and so on." "We did not find the magic documents or photos or evidence of anything." "And why not? I don't know. We'll ever know why not."

The speaker was asked if Jeffrey Epstein worked for an intelligence agency and why a minute was missing from the jailhouse tape on the night of his death. Regarding the client list, the speaker stated the file is sitting on their desk to be reviewed, along with the JFK and MLK files. The tens of thousands of videos turned out to be child porn downloaded by Epstein and will never be released. The speaker has no knowledge of Epstein being an agent. Evidence showed he committed suicide. The missing minute from the video was due to the Bureau of Prisons resetting the video every night, and every night should have the same minute missing. They are looking for that video to release.

Six years ago I made a film with Kathy Newman for Channel 4 called The Prince and the Pedophile about Jeffrey Epstein and Prince Andrew. In the wake of that film, I had lengthy telephone conversations with Virginia Roberts Giuffre (Virginia Dufry), Epstein’s best known victim, who told me all the men she was farmed out to and that it would not surprise me if President Trump was striving to protect those people. I don’t understand why the Jeffrey Epstein case would be of interest to anybody. It’s pretty boring stuff. These people who gathered around Epstein were not outlandish freaks or outcasts; they were a representative sample of the American business, political, and academic world, the American elite. It’s hardly surprising that both parties, when out of power, demand openness around this case, but when in power they are less interested in all the names. He’s dead. He’s gone. It’s all been a big hoax, perpetrated by the Democrats, with some foolish Republicans falling into the net. Epstein was very probably connected to the intelligence services, to American and possibly Israeli intelligence. He may have had compromising material tapes of powerful men, contributing to why he got away with his actions for so long. He illustrates the power, privilege, and impunity of a tiny elite of fabulously rich people who effectively run the world. Virginia was aware of Donald Trump as a sleazy presence around Epstein and moved in the same world. There was a period when they were close friends, though she was clear she was never abused by him. Virginia was recruited by Epstein while working at Mar-a-Lago. In a 2002 magazine profile, Trump called Epstein a terrific guy who likes women, many of them on the younger side. Trump and Epstein later had a falling out, but they were part of that world together. Epstein died in a prison cell. Today, Trump is president. After coming to power, Trump’s Justice Department released the Epstein papers; the released versions were heavily redacted, while the versions we had were unredacted. I have the flight logs and the little black book. Alexander Acosta, Epstein’s ally and Trump’s Labor Secretary-designate, reportedly said in hearings that Epstein belonged to intelligence and to be left alone. Epstein had connections to intelligence services, probably Mossad and American intelligence. Ghislain Maxwell’s father, Robert Maxwell, had extensive intelligence links; he was buried on the Mount of Olives, with eulogies by Israeli figures. Virginia described the abuse she suffered at Epstein’s hands and the enablers around him, including Ghislaine Maxwell, whom Virginia called “Mary fucking Poppins” and described as a sadistic abuser and facilitator. Virginia told me she was abused by a string of men Epstein presented to her, including prominent figures in business and politics and, obviously, Prince Andrew and world leaders. The number of them who were sadomasochistic was extraordinary; one man nearly killed her. She was angry watching Prince Andrew’s interview, angered by his arrogance and belief he would get away with it. I can tell you categorically I don’t remember meeting her; there are questions about a doctored photograph. Epstein’s smirking was noted by someone who knew him, as if he knew things others didn’t. The Little Black Book was Ghislain Maxwell’s book, as evidenced by the British numbers versus American numbers, with many entries overlapping with the flight logs. Epstein referred to Peter Mandelson as “Petey,” and Mandelson is one of the two pictured with Epstein in a casual outing and at Epstein’s birthday. There is no suggestion Mandelson was criminally involved, but he was seen in Epstein’s circle, presenting a mysterious closed world of power. Epstein’s death has raised questions about surveillance footage; three minutes are missing from the prison surveillance released by the American government. Epstein, a former Bear Stearns employee and later involved in a pyramid scheme with Steve Hoffenberg, moved into advising Les Wexner and other ventures. He received a sweetheart deal in Florida in 2006–2007, serving about a year with day release, and only faced justice again in 2019. Epstein’s circle largely walked away unscathed. Virginia’s case did not progress in the UK; Prince Andrew was reportedly settled for about £12,000,000 to Virginia’s charity, a sum funded ultimately by the public. Virginia’s recent death involved a car accident and divorce troubles; conspiracies surround her death, though her family sees nothing suspicious. Virginia’s experiences, and the stories of Epstein, Maxwell, and others, highlight the power and privilege of the wealthy and privileged, and the need for independent media outlets like Double Dan News, which I urge you to support via Patreon.

The conversation centers on the ongoing examination of Jeffrey Epstein’s files and what they reveal, with a focus on disturbing content, coded language, and the reliability of the material. - The speakers note the FBI’s earlier claim that there was no sex trafficking, calling that claim gaslighting given the scale of material now public. They emphasize the last four file dumps as “unbelievable” in their volume and in the disturbing, often coded language contained within. - They discuss how widespread Epstein’s influence appears to be, noting that Epstein’s activities touch many high-profile figures across politics and business. Names that repeatedly surface include former president Bill Clinton (clearly named in one journal entry) and former president Donald Trump (referenced repeatedly, sometimes with redactions that leave the identity ambiguous). Other figures mentioned include Prince Andrew, Alan Dershowitz, and Ivanka Trump, among others. They point out that some references are explicit, while others are obfuscated or redacted. - A central feature of the material is the use of code words to describe sexual abuse and trafficking. The participants give several examples: - The journal of a 16-year-old Epstein trafficking victim uses coded language; words like “yucky,” “gross,” and other terms are interpreted by an attorney as code for sexual assault. The journal explicitly mentions Chelsea Clinton in one passage and references to Bill Clinton, with the implication of inappropriate acts. - “Pizza” is repeatedly identified as a common code word in emails and journals, linked by some to the broader Pizza Gate lore, and sometimes paired with “grape soda” or “beef jerky” as coded references. They note that “pizza” appears over 900 times in some files, and “grape soda” is mentioned in the context of sexual references or secret messages. - The reliability and credibility of victims’ accounts are discussed. The 16-year-old victim’s journals include extraordinary claims (for example, about having Epstein’s child), and the speakers acknowledge that some allegations are “out outrageous” and may be difficult to corroborate. They stress the need for more forensic verification to determine what is authentically attributable to the victim and what may be embellishment or misinterpretation. They mention claims that a baby allegedly connected to Ghislain Maxwell and Epstein existed, but note that there is no independent corroboration of a child, while other entries discuss the possibility of egg freezing and related issues. - Redactions are scrutinized. Some names are clearly identifiable (e.g., Clinton, Chelsea), while others (including a Trump-related item) are redacted or partially disclosed. The hosts suggest the redactions may reflect AI-assisted and manual redaction, with some omissions caused by the sheer volume of material and potential misses during processing. They acknowledge that some files were removed after the initial release due to redaction errors, which complicates interpretation. - The discussion moves to Epstein’s personal network and possible roles as a liaison or intelligence asset. They observe Epstein’s connections to Middle Eastern figures and governments, including Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the UAE, and speculate about possible associations with Mossad, Saudi intelligence, and other agencies. They discuss Epstein’s travel history, mentions of forged or fake passports, and the possibility that he might have contemplated operating outside the United States. - The material includes extensive photographic and video evidence. The speakers remark on the sheer number of images and videos, the presence of many well-known individuals in Epstein’s orbit, and body-language cues suggesting Epstein treated others as objects for his pleasure. They note that even after his 2008 conviction, Epstein remained photographed in public settings, implying ongoing power dynamics and influence. - The possibility that Epstein is alive is entertained, sparked by references to a possible escape plan and by discussion of questions around his death. They analyze a document scribbled in jail that the speaker interprets as an escape plan, including references to red notices, visas, banks, and “blackmail,” and discuss the idea that the death could have been staged or influenced by external actors. They contrast this with official accounts that describe Epstein’s death as suicide, while acknowledging inconsistencies in the DOJ and inspector general reports, and noting new observations such as delayed camera activity and reports of document shredding. - They conclude that the scope of material is enormous (tens of thousands to millions of pages, images, and videos), with three point something million released out of six point something million known to exist. They caution that the released files likely represent the tip of the iceberg and emphasize the value of collaboration among investigators, journalists, and researchers to parse the data. - Throughout, Epstein’s associates—including Maxwell and high-profile figures in politics and entertainment—are repeatedly examined in terms of possible roles, affiliations, and complicity, alongside broader questions about intent, corroboration, and the interpretation of coded language within the files.

The transcript centers on a cascade of allegations and connections surrounding Jeffrey Epstein, his alleged role as an intelligence asset, and the supposed cover-ups and blackmail implications tied to his network. - The Wall Street Journal obtained Epstein’s private calendar, which allegedly shows meetings with high-profile figures who might be expected to steer clear of a convicted pedophile. Notably, Epstein met with Catherine Rumler, one of Barack Obama’s top lawyers, who met with Epstein dozens of times and Epstein even tried to arrange for Rumler to work for Bill Gates. The question raised is how Epstein could be a “fixer” between Obama’s lawyer and Gates. - Epstein also met with William Burns, who was Barack Obama’s deputy secretary of state at the time and later became CIA director. Burns, at the time, was working for John Kerry at the State Department. The transcript notes that Burns then became CIA director, and that the CIA director attended Epstein’s Manhattan townhouse where Epstein allegedly had sex with underage girls and where other men were filmed having sex with underage girls. - The piece suggests Epstein was connected to multiple intelligence circles (the CIA, Israeli intelligence, perhaps Russian intelligence) and questions whether the American government allowed Epstein to traffic and molest teenage girls for blackmail material. It quotes the CIA director, William Burns, saying he met with Epstein only as someone “introduced as an expert in the financial services sector,” offering general advice on private-sector transitions, and asserts there was no relationship. - The discussion implies a sweetheart deal in 2002-2006, a prison-cell cover-up, and missing Epstein tapes, with the claim that everything Epstein recorded and all his properties went missing, while the Federal Reserve seized the tapes after Epstein’s death. It notes the only person arrested since then was the madam Maxwell. - A respondent, identified as Speaker 1, describes Epstein finding her almost immediately and knowing exactly where she was, suggesting she was being watched by cameras on Epstein’s island, townhouse, and other properties. - The narrative asserts that the CIA has the sex tapes and has used them for blackmail, labeling it a “blackmail jackpot” that includes hours of video from Epstein Island, the Manhattan townhouse, the Palm Beach estate, and the New Mexico ranch. It mentions Bill Clinton as a longtime associate who flew on the Lolita Express 26 times and visited Epstein’s private island. - Epstein’s preoccupations with transhumanism and life-extension technologies are discussed. At Epstein’s New Mexico ranch, it’s alleged he intended to seed the human race by impregnating women, with claims reported by the New York Times that he wanted to use the ranch as a base where women would be inseminated with his sperm, aiming for 20 impregnations at a time. - The Dulce, New Mexico reference places Epstein near a rumored underground complex and connects Ghislain Maxwell to a submarine license, allegedly transporting people to Epstein Island via an underwater port. The proximity of a U.S. military submarine base on Saint Thomas Island and Water Island (owned by Joe Biden’s brother) is noted. - The piece mentions Epstein’s efforts to ingratiate himself with tech elites, including Bill Gates and attempts to court Elon Musk, who reportedly declined after feeling uneasy. - It also raises questions about the whereabouts of 500,000 to a million unaccompanied children, suggesting underground tunnels and hidden spaces as potential refuges. - The closing line suggests that if someone does something that doesn’t make sense, it may be because they are being told what to do and threatened with the release of tapes.

The Epstein files are detonating globally. Prince Andrew has fallen, police are searching his home, and the blast radius extends to anyone connected to Epstein or Maxwell, or even by association. High-profile figures are implicated: Larry Summers, who worked for Obama and Clinton, resigned from Harvard; Obama's top lawyer Kathy Rumler resigned from Goldman and, in emails, called Epstein “uncle Jeffrey” and advised him on press strategy; another Obama official, homeland security adviser Lisa Monaco, appears in the files. Bill Gates suddenly cancels a major overseas speech just hours before he was set to take the stage. Emails reveal meetings Gates had with Epstein after Epstein’s conviction for soliciting a minor for prostitution, and one Epstein note claimed Gates “got an STD and needed help to hide it from his wife after contact with Russian girls.” Gates denies that happened. Thomas Pritzker, JB’s cousin and a frequent guest at Epstein’s townhouse, stepped down from Hyatt Hotel’s executive chairman role. Bard College is reviewing its president’s ties to Epstein. Leon Botstein’s name appears over 2,000 times in the documents. American Express issued a statement regretting Epstein as a client after he used their card to book travel for the girls. CNN reports that new age guru Deepak Chopra might be in trouble. In 2017, Epstein asked Chopra, “did you find me a cute Israeli?” Chopra responded, “universe is human construct. Cute girls are aware when they make noises. He later added, god is a construct. Cute girls are real.” In a 01/2016 exchange beginning with a link to a TED talk about the end of physics, Chopra wrote to Epstein, “statistics is like a girl in a bikini. What she reveals is obvious. What she conceals is more interesting.” Chopra was approached at the airport and repeatedly asked about his relationship with Epstein and whether he has any regrets. Hillary knows the heat’s on, but she is on cleanup duty. Clinton-related statements claim no links beyond routine charitable travel; “we have no links. We have a very clear record that we’ve been willing to talk about, which my husband has said he took some rides on the airplane for his charitable work. I don’t recall ever meeting him.” Ghislain Maxwell wasn’t just a Clinton Global Initiative guest; she had a complimentary access pass, personally approved by Bill or Hillary, and was an honored guest in 2013, years after sexual abuse allegations circulated, and attended Chelsea’s wedding. Stephanopoulos is also scrutinized for dining at Epstein’s apartment after his prison release. Lex Wesner testified under oath that Epstein told him he worked with Bezos, the Rothschild family, and Google. New Mexico reopens its investigation into Epstein’s ranch after a newly released email claims two foreign girls were buried there, apparently dying of strangulation during rough fetish sex. The FBI was warned Epstein could be destroying evidence with an incinerator after he built a suspicious barn with a chimney. National security is involved: Epstein was offered a chance to buy buildings owned by the Pentagon, in 2016, with a go-between for Epstein and Prince Andrew pitching a site next to the Pentagon labeled a “mission critical asset.” No deal was finalized, but why was Epstein getting a pocket listing for such a sensitive site? Other files show Epstein may have compromised US customs officers in the Virgin Islands by offering them food, advice, musical gigs. How did he gain this access, and why was he operating near the national security apparatus at all?

Headline evidence from Jeffrey Epstein's safe went missing after an FBI raid, according to court testimony in the Ghislaine Maxwell trial. The speaker, a former federal agent, stated that they don't understand how evidence could be lost in such a high-profile case, given the strict protocols for cataloging and securing evidence in an evidence vault. The only time the speaker recalls seeing evidence lost was during 9/11 when the Secret Service office in 7 World Trade Center collapsed. The speaker also addressed an email regarding Epstein, Clinton, and a plane. The speaker stated that a friend who was on a plane with Epstein and Clinton witnessed suspicious activity. The friend has not provided permission to share the full story or specific details, but did allow the speaker to say that the events were "very odd" and bothered him. The speaker claims the friend's credibility is "unimpeachable."

Juliet Bryant describes Jeffrey Epstein as a “very highly intelligent man, very quick thinking, and also highly manipulative,” who “made it out like he was running the world” and exerted a psychological hold over many people. She says she was with Epstein in Palm Beach and on his island, and that there were “about 60 girls coming and going” during the time she was there. She alleges that Epstein could charm people and “suck people into his web, the web of deceit,” and that many high-powered men were involved or complicit. She recalls meeting Epstein with Bill Clinton and claims Epstein spoke on the phone to George Bush and Clinton; Epstein also boasted of being on the phone with Michael Jackson and claimed friendships with Fidel Castro, with photographs of him with Pope figures around the properties. Bryant notes that Epstein’s demeanor was generally calm and charming, but he was “intimidating” and could be rude to people in a subtle way, ruling everyone around him. The one time she saw him angry was when a cat appeared in the bushes on the island. She says Epstein claimed to have worked at the CIA and told her “my family’s name on a list,” and she recalls him telling her that a girl who’d accused him of rape had drugs planted in her apartment and had her sent to prison. She states Epstein offered money to her or others for various purposes, including a $2,000 offer to bring young girls and $4,000 per month to stay and work with them, which she declined. She mentions there being a JPMorgan fund and a claim of “$1,000,000,000 worth of human trafficking between Epstein and JPMorgan’s accounts,” and asks where the 200 victims who claimed from that fund are. She says some victims have “been found dead,” and she expresses sadness for Virginia Gafner (likely Virginia Giuffre) and other victims’ families. Bryant confronts the idea that Epstein’s intelligence ties extended into intelligence agencies. She confirms Epstein told her he worked with the CIA, and she cites articles claiming Leslie Wexner and Robert Maxwell were part of Mossad in the ’80s; she views intelligence agencies as interconnected and believes Epstein’s connections helped him access influential circles. She mentions attempts by Epstein to recruit victims and others, and notes she was offered money and was under a “psychological hold.” She recounts a specific claim that Epstein worked in “intelligence” and that someone evidence suggested Epstein was an “asset” early on, although she stresses she did not work for any intelligence agency. Bryant discusses the women Epstein socialized with, including those who were under 18. She says the youngest victim she met was Teila Davies, age 17, and mentions Teila’s sister Shante in connection with a Bill Clinton trip. She recalls Epstein claiming to have been in or around the CIA and describes a climate in which questions were dangerous, and the group had to “go by what he wanted.” She mentions an agreement clause preventing interviews without a lawyer’s consent, and says she did not sign it willingly; she also notes she gave a few interviews early on but later stopped due to safety concerns and control. Concerning the infamous coded terms in Epstein’s files, Bryant explains that she never used the terms herself, though she’s heard of “pizza,” “cheese,” “beef jerky,” and other terms described as code words for sexual activity involving girls. The team references FBI bulletins that define pizza as referring to girls and cheese to little girls, and a tweet that states “I don’t need pizza, but thank you for offering.” She mentions a tweet about a girl who “looks pregnant,” and another about buying a baby, which she says she did not witness directly but has heard described by other victims; she asserts eggs were taken from victims, including experiences of pelvic exams and alleged non-consensual operations. Bryant recounts a 2004 incident in which she was taken to a bedroom, and describes waking up “naked and paralyzed in the lab” with a female doctor performing an operation without consent, including invasive pelvic exams, and she says her experiences involved a mix of trauma, hospitalizations for panic attacks, and nightmares. She explains that after receiving settlement money, she sought therapy and began writing and researching, ultimately writing a book about the “weird stuff” that happened and asserting that “they took my eggs.” She connects these experiences to broader claims of cloning, the New Mexico lab, and possible underground facilities tied to Epstein and Maxwell. Regarding the question of whether Epstein could still be alive, Bryant says she sometimes thinks he could be alive, possibly in witness protection or cloning scenarios, given Epstein’s power and control, the lack of full transparency, and the media’s historical portrayal of events. She acknowledges the difficulty in discerning truth from redacted or contested evidence and emphasizes her commitment to exposing what happened and seeking justice for the victims. She closes by thanking the interviewer and expressing her determination to continue fighting.

Epstein was not some sort of whiz kid hedge fund manager. Epstein was playing a part. Epstein was a LARPer. And this is no longer just speculation. Members of congress are actively being blackmailed. The Epstein playbook is being used on a daily basis. Jeffrey Epstein was not a financier. Jeffrey Epstein was not a hedge fund manager. Jeffrey Epstein was a key player in a multi decade blackmail operation against the most powerful people on the planet. Epstein was a creation of Mossad, Israeli intelligence, American intelligence, Saudi intelligence, or maybe he was just a hired gun. Yeah? Just a tiny bit.

The discussion centers on a disturbing Epstein-related document dump from the DOJ, focusing on a diary kept by a girl who was 16 at the time of the abuse. The speakers emphasize the diary as a direct, named account written by the girl, and note that the FBI interpreted her coded entries. They describe the girl as having Mosaic Down syndrome and autism, with the diary mentioning both conditions and the way she was treated by Epstein and his associates. Key details highlighted: - The girl’s background: autism and Mosaic Down syndrome; she writes about autism in the diary and notes how Spirit Airlines was praised for accommodating autistic people. - Targeting and vulnerability: she was considered easier to exploit due to her condition and described as beautiful, with mentions of blonde hair and blue eyes, described in terms akin to a porcelain doll. - Pregnancy and abortion: the diary recounts pregnancies and instances of forced abortions or births, with references to a test showing pregnancy (“two pink lines”) and to being treated as property or an incubator. - Direct quotes from the diary: she expresses a desire to die, references Ghislain Maxwell as someone who sometimes protects her and sometimes does not, and states, “I am nothing but your property and incubator” and “my heart belonged to her.” - A specific segment about a baby: she writes about being able to hold and feed a baby for ten to fifteen minutes before the baby was taken away, and she describes the baby as hers and expresses distress. - Attempts to obtain help: she repeatedly begs to be released from torture and to be saved. Names and individuals mentioned in the diary: - Ghislain Maxwell (Ghislaine Maxwell) is referenced repeatedly as someone who “protects” her at times and is connected to the control she experiences. - Jean-Luc Brunel is named in the diary with a derogatory description and speculation about his motives; the diary notes his suicide in prison. Other figures discussed in relation to the diary: - Leon Black: the diary includes coded references to “Stopped Dead” and mentions meeting Black in New York City in 2000 as Epstein’s “special friend.” The text discusses public reporting (Newsweek, 2023) about allegations against Black, who reportedly paid Epstein $158 million for financial advice between 2012 and 2017, after Epstein’s conviction. The diary entry describes an incident where Black allegedly bit and assaulted the girl, with “blood all over Jeffrey’s carpet,” and Black’s supposed disdain, saying, “Leon can go F himself.” The discussion notes Black’s later withdrawal from Apollo and questions the plausibility of a figure paying that amount for financial advice. - The diary also references Epstein’s associates and a pattern of moving the victim between powerful people. Context and meta-commentary: - The speakers acknowledge that the case details are not proven in court and urge caution about drawing definitive conclusions from diary entries and online reports. They emphasize that some accounts appear credible as direct Epstein victims, while others remain unverified or disputed. - They criticize media and government handling of the Epstein case, suggesting there were long-standing cover-ups and implying involvement of intelligence or state actors, though they reiterate that conclusions about guilt or innocence should await legal proceedings. - They note that the DOJ’s redactions in the Epstein files did not protect the victims’ names as promised, while some alleged predators remained less protected, and they reference a torture video mentioned in emails to Epstein, asking who sent it and what happened to that person. - The conversation ends with broader criticisms of political leadership and the media, arguing that the organization behind the trafficking was extensive and that coverage often centers on famous individuals rather than the organizers and victims.

I was once told by a reporter at Fox that Epstein was an intelligence asset for people in the Middle East. This person was absolutely sure that Epstein was either knowingly or unknowingly working as an intelligence asset. It's a mistake to assume that Epstein was the only one with access to the videotapes from his plane and island. The reason some people wanted the Epstein story to disappear is because many assume that Epstein was the only one who had damaging information on powerful people. According to my source, that is not the case. It makes sense that the blackmail story is more widespread than people know. I do not know which Middle Eastern countries were involved.

I was once told by a reporter at Fox that Epstein was an intelligence asset for people in the Middle East. The reporter was sure that Epstein was either a witting or unwitting asset, and that his plane and island were likely bugged with cameras. There's a misconception that Epstein was the sole owner of the videotapes, but that's not the case. According to the source, others had them too, which is why the blackmail story makes sense. I'm unsure which Middle Eastern countries are involved, but the reporter swore that Epstein was an intelligence asset. It's possible that these countries are using the videos to influence powerful decision-makers.

The speaker questions whether their hypothetical death, following a tweet about the CIA and Mossad framing and torturing them, would be considered suspicious. They mention a real story that sent chills down their spine, involving Jeffrey Epstein. According to information received, Epstein allegedly operated a blackmail ring, using his connections to powerful individuals who attended his parties on his Caribbean island. The speaker highlights allegations that Epstein was protected by intelligence agencies, which may explain why he faced no consequences. They mention Alexander Acosta's involvement and his claim that he was instructed to leave the Epstein case alone because it belonged to intelligence.

Nick Bryant and Brian (the host) discuss a new tranche of Jeffrey Epstein-related documents and the broader implications of the material that has surfaced. Key points and claims from the conversation: - Torture emails: Four emails in the torture section reference explicit discussions of torture, including an exchange with the UAE Sultan (referred to as “the Sultan”) mentioning a torture video and a note that the Sultan was in China; a Harvard professor, Martin Nowak, with Epstein noting “Did you torture her?”; and an Italian hedge fund partner, with Epstein asking “do you want me to try to do her or just torture her?” These emails raise questions about the cruelty described, with Nick noting that “these are incriminating emails,” while Brian observes that some messages suggest saving details for a phone call. - The broader pattern: Nick emphasizes that Epstein seemingly operated “above the law” and communicated with a circle that believes they are beyond accountability. He notes that some emails include casual references to pizza, muffins, and dinner, but that the torture-related messages are especially ominous. - Zoro Ranch and possible graves: The discussion revisits the Zoro Ranch (New Mexico) with claims about trafficking and possible burials. An extreme email from 2019, allegedly from Edward, describes two foreign girls buried on orders of Epstein and Maxwell, with multiple attached videos and extortion demands. Nick mentions reports that a Fox News story covered stolen USBs containing underage footage, though Fox News reportedly declined to view the material. The possibility that bodies are buried at Zoro Ranch remains a focal point of speculation. - Baby and cloning themes: The conversation covers allegations of a “baby factory” at Zoro Ranch and discussions of human cloning. Nick cites a 1995 Dolly the Sheep milestone and explains how cloning could be technically possible, suggesting Epstein might have been intrigued by the idea of cloning himself. They discuss emails about black market babies and Epstein’s interest in having a baby, with a direct claim that Epstein asked a victim to have his baby. Nick notes that another victim, Rina Oh, described Epstein asking her to have his baby, and that additional victims corroborate similar inquiries. - Eugenics, hormones, and infant development: The dialogue mentions an email from Robert Trevers about hormone manipulation to shape newborns (male/female genitalia) and a UCLA neuroscientist, Mark Trammell, describing “how to enhance a baby’s sucking ability” via a provocative email to Epstein. The pair stress how shocking these emails appear because they involve high-profile academics communicating with Epstein. - Access to classified material and international links: An email allegedly from a former Norwegian prime minister forwarding a “classified” polio report to Bill Gates is cited as an example of Epstein’s access to sensitive information and high-level networks. They question how Epstein could access and share classified data, though they acknowledge his extensive intelligence-community connections. - Intelligence connections and power networks: The discussion explores how Epstein might have operated as a blackmailer within a web of powerful individuals. Nick argues Epstein could not have controlled or coerced the most powerful people on his own; instead, an intelligence-backed network or protection might exist. They reference the possibility that Epstein worked with both Israeli and American intelligence, noting Channel 4’s reporting that only a fraction of the millions of documents have been released, and that Israeli intelligence reportedly installed security systems at Epstein’s Manhattan apartment, which could suggest access to additional material. - Notable named figures and procurement patterns: They discuss Les Wexner (Victoria’s Secret founder), Reid Hoffman, Howard Lutnick, Alan Dershowitz, and others as individuals who should be looked into more deeply. Nick asserts Wexner’s involvement in Epstein’s operations and suggests that some procureurs—like Sarah Kellen, Leslie Groff, Adriana Marcincova, and Adriana Ross—could be indicted if the government shows the will to prosecute. They maintain that a congressional commission could reveal why child trafficking was covered up and who perpetrated it. - Legal and political action: Nick promotes Epstein Justice (epsteinjustice.com) and advocates for an independent congressional commission comprised of non-government personnel to investigate and prosecute perpetrators. He argues that, with political will, authorities could file indictments and compel witnesses to testify. Surprising or unique elements emphasized: - The extent of explicit torture discussions in Epstein-related emails and their potential implications for criminal liability. - The assertion of a “baby factory” at Zoro Ranch and the possibility of baby-related genetic or reproductive experiments involving Epstein’s circle. - Claims of frequent, direct engagement with high-level public figures and academics on ethically or legally egregious topics, including cloning, hormone manipulation in infants, and sexual exploitation. - The suggestion that Epstein’s material could be tied to intelligence agencies (Israeli and American), with security systems installed by the Israeli government at Epstein’s residence used as potential evidence of deeper access to incriminating material. Concluding note: Nick urges ongoing public pressure for an independent congressional commission to uncover why child trafficking was allegedly covered up and to prosecute perpetrators, stressing that investigators would need to rely on the testimony of victims who feel safe to come forward.

People are talking about Epstein's relations with Ahud Barak. A lot of emails got leaked, and it included Peter Thiel. Reporting Carbine, their security company. But all of that was mapped out a long time ago.

The transcript centers on explosive allegations and questions surrounding Jeffrey Epstein, his associates, and possible intelligence connections. It begins with a report that the Wall Street Journal obtained Epstein’s private calendar, which allegedly shows meetings with powerful figures who would seem unlikely to associate with a convicted sex offender. Epstein allegedly met Catherine Rumler, one of Barack Obama’s top lawyers, and Rumler reportedly met Epstein dozens of times. Epstein supposedly tried to set up Rumler to work for Bill Gates. The narrative raises the question: how could Epstein be a fixer between Obama’s lawyer and Gates? The account continues with Epstein meeting Joe Biden’s CIA director, though it notes that Burns was not CIA director at the time but Obama’s deputy secretary of state, working under John Kerry at the State Department, and later becoming CIA director. It is claimed that Burns went to Epstein’s Manhattan townhouse, where Epstein’s activities included sex with underage girls and video of others doing the same. The speaker speculates about whether Burns saw a portrait of Bill Clinton in a blue dress in Epstein’s parlor. The timeline suggests that Epstein was arrested and later hanged in jail with security camera failures and guards asleep, and that two years afterward Biden appointed Burns as CIA director. The implication drawn is that Epstein was an intelligence asset, potentially connected to the CIA, Israeli intelligence, and possibly Russian intelligence, and that he was allowed to traffic and molest girls for blackmail material. The speakers say they asked CIA director William Burns why he met with a convicted sex offender; Burns replies that Epstein was introduced as an expert in the financial services sector and offered general advice on a private-sector transition, and that there was no formal relationship. The narrative asserts that this interaction could explain a 2002–2006 sweetheart deal, a prison-cell cover-up, and why Epstein’s tapes went missing, with Fed seizure of tapes and only madam Ghislaine Maxwell arrested since then. There are testimonies about Epstein’s access to sex tapes and the belief that the CIA possesses them and has used them for blackmail, including “hours of video” from Epstein Island, the Manhattan townhouse, the Palm Beach estate, and a New Mexico ranch. Bill Clinton is said to have flown on Epstein’s plane multiple times and to have been close friends with him. Separately, Epstein is described as obsessed with transhumanism and life-extension technologies. The New Mexico ranch is claimed to be a base for impregnating women to seed humanity, with allegations of 20 women pregnant at once, and an 8,000-square-foot underground level at Zoro Ranch. A submarine license allegedly held by Ghislaine Maxwell and transport to Epstein Island via underwater submarine port is mentioned, as is proximity to a US military submarine base near St. Thomas and Water Island, owned by Joe Biden’s brother. The transcript also references various other strange claims: Epstein’s dinners with tech elites such as Bill Gates and attempted contacts with Elon Musk; a controversial SCNT discussion about using the DNA of “curvy, sexy black women from Africa”; questions about missing or underground locations for children; and a closing note that people may be acting under orders or threats related to tapes. Overall, the piece presents a tapestry of alleged high-level connections, missing evidence, blackmail material, and conspiratorial episodes surrounding Epstein and his network.

I was once told by a reporter at Fox that Epstein was an intelligence asset for people in the Middle East. I didn't know that. This reporter was absolutely sure that Epstein was either a witting or unwitting asset, meaning his plane and island were likely equipped with cameras, and the tapes weren't exclusively in Epstein's custody. The reason certain people wanted the Epstein story to disappear is because they assumed Epstein was the only one with compromising material. According to my source, that wasn't the case. These assets and the blackmail story make sense because of this. I don't know which Middle Eastern countries were involved, but the reporter swore Epstein was an asset. They may have had his plane wired and have all the compromising material. How do we know some countries aren't influencing power players with blackmail?

The transcript outlines a string of alleged connections between Jeffrey Epstein, Ukraine, and Zelensky, tied to broader themes of modeling, trafficking, and political upheaval. It states that Epstein’s newly released files reference two Kyiv-based modeling agencies described as the best in Kyiv and as providers of cheap escorts, with one contact suggesting access to around 400 girls. The files also document travel routes from New York to Kyiv, arranged apartments, extended stays, and logistics, along with real estate dealings including a 2017 discussion of a mansion purchase in Lviv and large money transfers tied to the deal. A key claim is that Epstein was prepared to take advantage of Ukraine’s upheaval. An email from 2013, before Ukraine’s CIA-facilitated government change, purportedly shows Epstein writing to the head of the Rothschild banking group that “Ukraine upheaval should provide many opportunities. Many.” The transcript claims the emails indicate Epstein worked directly with the Rothschilds on capitalizing on the chaos in Ukraine, and asserts that Rothschild-linked interests moved into Ukraine after the 2014 upheaval to acquire assets in land, energy, and infrastructure. It also mentions the transfer of major financial assets during Petro Poroshenko’s presidency, with an assertion that oligarchs “simply changed hands.” The narrative then moves to 2019, noting Poroshenko’s ouster and Zelensky’s rise. Epstein allegedly wrote to a Ukrainian-born woman urging her to study Ukrainian politics, Zelensky, corruption, and parliament, adding, “it is funny, but sophisticated corruption. Huge amounts of money will be made. I’d like to see you as a female oligarch.” The transcript claims Epstein and Zelensky had lunch together multiple times. It also asserts Zelensky was accused of being complicit in human trafficking in Ukraine, citing a redacted email that reportedly states Zelensky “allowed modeling agent Jean Luc Brunel to traffic girls out of the country.” Jean Luc Brunel is described as someone Epstein used to traffic girls; he was found dead in a prison cell in 2022 while under investigation for rape of minors, sexual exploitation, and trafficking. A further twist claims Zelensky invited performance artist Marina Abramovic, a central figure in the original Pizzagate narrative, to serve as Ukraine’s ambassador in September 2023, to help rebuild schools and support children affected by the war. Abramovic is described as Serbian, not Ukrainian, and her art is noted for themes involving ritual blood and cannibalistic imagery. The transcript suggests Abramovic’s involvement as ambassador raises questions given her association with Pizzagate figures from the Podesta emails. Overall, the content asserts that several names linked to Epstein and Pizzagate appear in connection with Zelensky and Ukraine, including claims Zelensky’s regime and associates are involved in trafficking and corruption, while noting Abramovic’s ambassadorial role and historical links to the Pizzagate narrative.

Host: Epstein is Pizzagate. Ten years ago, Pizzagate was the top Twitter trend, with the claim that pedophile elites preyed on children deemed insane by many. I was the first mainstream reporter to dare present the facts around Pizzagate; my corporate career was destroyed, and others who suggested it were blacklisted or shadow banned. But just days ago, the largest dump of Epstein files revealed what some of us have been telling you for a decade: Pizzagate is real. Not that there’s a pizza parlor at the center of a child trafficking ring, but that child trafficking rings run by powerful people do exist. Tonight, I want to remind you of what I told you then and compare it to what we have learned. Guest: Pizzagate became a major story when an armed man went to a DC-area pizza place to investigate for himself, firing a rifle at the floor. The media labeled the entire story a hoax or fake news. I spent the last month investigating. So what exactly is Pizzagate? The story known as Pizzagate did not begin with a rumor, nor was it created by Macedonian sheep farmers as CNN claimed. It began with WikiLeaks, authentic verified emails from John Podesta, the chairman of Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign. Those emails were real, and within them were communications that researchers and former law enforcement found unusual. A group of self-proclaimed pedophiles on 4chan and 8chan claimed Podesta was using their coded language. An urban dictionary entry from 2010 confirms that “cheese pizza” is a commonly coded term for child pornography. Host: I want you to see these images. The triangle in the Besta Pizza logo was linked to a “boy lover” image, and Besta Pizza changed its logo after Pizzagate investigators pointed it out, removing the triangle. Guest: Ten years ago I was dismissed as a dangerous conspiracy theorist for suggesting pedophiles and possibly elite pedophiles might use coded language, even though online pedophiles themselves acknowledged it. The new Epstein release mentions the word “pizza” 911 times in emails, often paired with “grape soda.” Examples include: “Well, this is better than a Chinese cookie. Let’s go for pizza and grape soda again.” “Mister Epstein would like to see the menu from the pizza place. Could you someone send it, please?” and a 2014 note: “Are you sitting? Jeffrey says he wants to go out to a pizza place with you.” The emails range around 2014, similar to the Podesta emails published by WikiLeaks, which started the Pizzagate saga. Host: There was talk about the Podesta brothers; John Podesta’s email showed a close relationship with Dennis Hastert, who was sentenced to fifteen months for abusing boys. An email from John Podesta to his brother Tony, “last night was fun,” begins with “still in torture chamber.” A 2009 Epstein email asking “where are you? You okay? I love the torture video” gained attention. Guest: The Epstein files show communications between elites—from a co-owner of an NFL team to billionaires like Elon Musk—described in coverage as a closer look at connections from Hollywood to Washington and beyond. CNN and other outlets allegedly suppressed discussion for a decade, conditioning the public to ignore the topic. There has been no public investigation by local police, the FBI, or others, raising the question of why no investigation has taken place. This is presented as evidence that the establishment protected and sustained this evil by avoiding honest engagement in 2016, choosing mockery over investigation, thereby creating the environment in which the mystery could thrive. Epstein is Pizzagate, and Pizzagate is bigger than Jeffrey Epstein alone.

The conversation centers on Jeffrey Epstein as an intelligence asset and how such arrangements work across multiple agencies. Speaker 0 questions how Epstein operated as an intelligence asset for the CIA, Mossad, MI6, SBU, and others, noting a media narrative that portrays Epstein as a Russian intelligence asset while allegedly overlooking other connections. John Kiriakou, a former CIA officer, explains his view that Epstein was likely an access agent—most probably recruited by Mossad—to provide access to people the Israelis were interested in. An access agent is someone who can grant access to target individuals rather than possessing direct access to classified information. Still, such an agent can be a free agent who can trade information or favors with various intelligence services (FBI, CIA, MI6, MI5, French services, etc.) in exchange for potential future assistance. Kiriakou emphasizes Epstein could barter with different agencies to build goodwill if he ever faced trouble. Regarding Epstein’s lenient 2008 sentence, Kiriakou notes that former US Attorney Alex Acosta said the order came from the top and, when asked why, stated it was intelligence-related. He questions who has authority over a US attorney, suggesting possible involvement of higher-level figures in the Bush administration (President or Vice President) and invites scrutiny of who ordered the lenient deal. The discussion then shifts to the mechanism of clandestine work. Kiriakou describes a covert environment where meetings occur without an overt trail: if Epstein were treated as a normal source, a meeting might be arranged at a yacht-club parking lot at 02:00, with arrangements made in advance to avoid written records. He contrasts this with cases where some elements are written (as in Watergate, where signals and pre-arranged triggers prompt meetings) but otherwise relies on verbal cues or signals to avoid paper trails. The panel explores the relationship between Epstein’s sexual offenses and his espionage role. They agree these were parallel issues: recruiters identified Epstein’s vulnerability as a pedophile to compel him to provide information, financing his operations while turning a blind eye to his activities. They discuss whether Epstein evolved into a honeypot operation over time, recognizing that decades of activity could allow intelligence services to entrap or manipulate many powerful individuals. Peter Mandelson’s case is cited as an example of a British figure deeply entangled, raising concerns about state secrets and possible exposure; Mendelson’s ties threaten political stability in the UK, with potential lifetime imprisonment if implicated in treason-like activities or heavy state-secrecy violations. The dialogue touches on the perception of Israeli diplomacy as flexible and sometimes aligned with adversaries when convenient, asserting that Israelis are “free agents” who act in Israel’s best interests, even if that means sharing information with hostile or competing intelligence services. This is illustrated by a debate with Alan Dershowitz about Epstein’s possible Israeli ties and the broader implications for extradition and sentencing. Toward the end, the speakers reflect on public accountability and transparency. They emphasize that no one should be granted a pass in crimes involving children, and they advocate for openness about investigations, including calls for Trump to release more information. They contrast the push for transparency with a desire to avoid premature judgments, urging scrutiny of all prominent figures involved. Finally, John Kiriakou promotes his shows—Deprogram, Deep Focus, and Dead Drop—as platforms for continued discussion.

Jeffrey Epstein had a vault on his island containing secretive information and videos of people engaged in sexual conduct. Despite being rich, he managed to evade consequences for his actions. Some speculate that intelligence agencies like Mossad or a mysterious black ops group were involved. The charges against Epstein were limited to paying underage girls for massages, which seemed underwhelming compared to expectations. The speaker, a lawyer, found the indictment lacking in substantial evidence.

Glenn Prager, a Department of Justice investigator who worked on the Epstein case, says 'the DOJ did not want to go after Epstein because he's a CIA asset' and that 'Epstein worked for the CIA and is a foreign asset.' He states that 'evidence from his investigation confirms that Bill Clinton was present for alleged rapes on the Lolita Express' and that 'Trump was not present for the rapes that Glenn Prager investigated, but that he is protecting a lot of other people that were.' He notes 'there were rapes that occurred' and 'the Clintons were on the plane' while 'Epstein would just pay them off, ... anywhere from a 150 to $500,000.' He adds, 'they killed the Epstein list to protect the Clintons.' The report also mentions 'On his backpack in the airport, we spotted an embroidered FBI patch.'

The speaker discusses Epstein-related documents and the implications people draw from them. They claim: - The memo circulated with media suggesting Jeffrey Epstein worked for the KGB, and that Epstein might have had multiple passports, talked to Israeli politicians and Jewish businessmen, and repeatedly invokes his Jewish identity. - In an email with former Israeli prime minister Ehud Barak, Epstein says he’s totally not working for Mossad. - Former Mossad officer Ari Ben Menashe says Epstein was working for Mossad. - In documents, Mark Iverson states that Robert Maxwell, Ghislaine Maxwell, and Jeffrey Epstein were working for Mossad; the speaker asserts that Robert Maxwell was not a Soviet spy. - British Foreign Office and Israeli whistleblowers say Epstein was working for Mossad, and he was given a hero’s burial in Israel, not in Russia. - In an actual email with Peter Thiel, Epstein says that he represents the Rothschild family. - The speaker poses questions: If a Russian passport proves he works for Russia, does boarding CIA planes prove he works for the United States? If he has a blackmail list on United Kingdom politicians, does that prove he works for the British? If he talks to Emmanuel Macron and prime minister Nicolas Sarkozy, does that prove he works for the French? The speaker concludes that, regardless, Epstein’s primary loyalties are with his people. - The speaker asserts that Zionists on Twitter claim the Epstein documents are a “nothingburger,” and urge continuing with other topics; they accuse those who disagreed of having low IQ and claim the documents reveal clear content with their own eyes. - Senator Bernie Sanders is described as saying this is a cautionary tale about wealth and power; the speaker counters by saying “your cousins” are helping orchestrate this, and that Sanders has repeatedly criticized Israel. - The speaker accuses proponents of diverting attention from the primary culprit and states that such attempts are not working on anyone.

The speaker connects Jeffrey Epstein to a broad web of influence and alleged illicit activity across several decades. Key points presented: - Epstein’s involvement is linked to the BCCI network, and to foreign policy activities in the Middle East during the 1990s, plus his alleged ties to high-level officials across Israeli, Saudi, British, and French governments, spanning the Clinton era into the early 2000s. - Epstein was investigated by the SEC in the 1980s and was one of the two people who ran the largest Ponzi scheme in U.S. history at that time, tied to the Towers Financial collapse. Epstein’s business partner went to jail for twenty-something years, while Epstein allegedly “skates completely free.” - He is said to have been involved in a billion-dollar fraud case in the U.S. Virgin Islands, with allegations that his campaigns funded local politicians there and that prosecutors answered to those politicians. - The speaker suggests Epstein’s pervasive presence—“always in the room” in four decades of American foreign policy and intelligence activity—implies a systemic concern about money sourcing for that activity. - Regarding Epstein’s crimes, the concern cited is the same one discussed with Orlando Massfer: don’t bring the case, and if you do, bring it in a highly limited way. - This culminated in the 2006 indictment, which was described as a “sweetheart plea deal” that limited prosecutions, protected coconspirators known and unknown, and allowed the case to proceed quickly before a full trial could uncover broader lines of evidence about Epstein’s network.