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The discussion centers on concerns and policy questions regarding pediatric vaccines, their safety, and how authorities respond to families who choose not to vaccinate. Key points raised by Speaker 0: - Pediatric vaccination schedules are increasing, with currently up to about 30 doses from birth to 2 years. Some vaccines, such as the hepatitis B vaccine, the acellular pertussis (3-in-1) vaccine, and the influenza vaccine given after 6 months, contain additives such as thiomersal (mercury-containing compound) and aluminum adjuvants. There is worry among some about potential long-term effects on brain development from thiomersal and other additives. - Thiomersal in vaccines is described as an organomercury compound that decomposes to ethyl mercury; historical notes are given about its association, in some sources, with developmental disorders in the 1990s, and there is reference to materials from the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare explaining its presence in certain vaccines and associated documentation. - The vaccine components discussed include thiomersal in current hepatitis B vaccines (e.g., Belcevir or Veemegen trade names), and aluminum-containing compounds in combination vaccines and the cervical cancer vaccine (HPV). There are concerns about neurotoxicity and memory impairment reported in some sources, and questions are raised about how these substances are evaluated in light of pediatric metabolism and excretion. - The text also points to broader concerns about modern additives in foods (artificial sweeteners, neonicotinoids, tar dyes) as part of a context for questioning vaccine safety, though the central focus remains vaccines and their additives. Speaker 0 also emphasizes a paradox: despite declining birth rates, the number of children with developmental disorders such as ADHD, autism spectrum disorders, and learning disabilities has risen, leading to heightened parental anxiety about early vaccination (birth to 2 months). The speaker highlights that even if experts claim the amounts are tiny, parents’ concerns persist. A call is made to present attached documentation and graphs to explain these points, as well as the overall safety profile. Questions and responses about policy and practice: - Speaker 1 explains preventive vaccination law (Article 8 and 9) authorizing municipalities to issue guidance and reminder notices for vaccinations, including vaccines against measles, rubella (MR), HPV, and Japanese encephalitis (the latter appears in the discussion as often related to catch-up schedules). The notices are for encouragement, not coercive mandates. - On the issue of refusals and potential neglect: it is stated that vaccinating of unvaccinated children is not, by itself, considered neglect; the decision to not vaccinate does not automatically constitute abuse or neglect. The speaker emphasizes that the question is about ensuring access to vaccination information and avoiding punitive labeling. - The role of childcare facilities and schools: there is discussion about whether vaccination status affects eligibility or admission. It is clarified that vaccination history is part of health records but does not automatically disadvantage a child in admission processes. Authorities acknowledge that some educators may view non-vaccination as neglect, and there is a preference to improve information sharing and awareness so that staff understand vaccination matters without stigmatizing families. - The need for uniform understanding among healthcare workers and educators is stressed. It is suggested that vaccination-related information be shared between childcare, school administration, and health departments to minimize misunderstandings and to ensure equitable treatment. - There is acknowledgement of concerns about social attitudes toward families who opt out of vaccination, and a call to respect differing judgments while improving communication and education among professionals. Speaker 3 and 4 contribute: - They reiterate that in childcare settings, health screening and eligibility processes may consider vaccination history, but not in a way that inherently disfavors unvaccinated children. They also address the possibility of attitudes among staff about neglect, noting a need for consistent information, training, and collaboration to reduce stigma. - A broader aim is expressed: foster a society where mutual respect for different vaccination decisions is possible, supported by clear communication and shared information among healthcare providers and educators. Overall, the discussion distinguishes between official guidance and punitive actions, reinforces that unvaccinated status alone is not treated as neglect, and calls for better information-sharing and supportive responses to families navigating vaccination decisions.

Let's examine the contents of vaccines, particularly thimerosal, which is highly toxic and can cause serious health issues, including damage to the kidneys, respiratory system, and nervous system. It is also linked to reproductive and developmental toxicity, raising concerns about autism and other neurodevelopmental disorders. Thimerosal is a common preservative in vaccines, notably in the influenza vaccine, which is recommended annually for pregnant women, infants, and children. It's important to note that thimerosal is not added at the end of the manufacturing process; vaccines must be specifically produced to be thimerosal-free.

The speaker believes all vaccines are suspect. As an emergency medicine physician, the speaker thought vaccines only contained a dead or attenuated virus and saline. In September 2000, after reading a package insert and researching vaccines, the speaker was mortified to learn that a child receiving all scheduled vaccines gets almost 13,000 micrograms of aluminum, almost 600 micrograms of mercury, and over 200 chemicals. The speaker states that this is why vaccines have never been proven safe, and vaccination is like injecting foreign matter into a baby.

Hepatitis B is contracted through sexual activity and IV drug use. The speaker believes babies do not need the hepatitis B vaccine. The hepatitis B vaccine contains 250 micrograms of aluminum. The speaker states that after Thimerosal was removed from vaccines, the hepatitis B vaccine was moved from being given to teenagers to newborns. The speaker claims the amount of aluminum in the vaccine is five times the adult daily maximum.

The vaccines are able to cross the blood brain barrier and move into the brain. The highest levels of aluminum found in babies are children with an autism diagnosis, and there's a direct relationship between the amount of aluminum in the brain and the diagnosis of autism. The other population with high aluminum is seniors diagnosed with dementia or Alzheimer's, and there's a direct relationship between those conditions and the amount of aluminum in brain tissue. And yet that's what's being injected into our babies. If I took those vaccine ingredients and mixed them with water and offered it, everybody would refuse, and it would be safer to drink than to inject. But when you stick a label vaccine on it, we don't exercise caution. If those ingredients were on baby food, would you give it to your baby? And the answer is no.

- The meteoric rise in autism is among the most alarming public health developments in history. There's never been anything like this. - And now it's one in thirty one, but in some areas, it's much worse than that, if you can believe it. One in thirty one. - For boys, it's one in twelve. - And by the way, I think I can say that there are certain groups of people that don't take vaccines and don't take any pills that have no autism, that have no autism. - They're pumping it looks like they're pumping into a horse. - You have a little child, little fragile child, and he get a a vat of 80 different vaccines, I guess. - 80 different blends, and they pump it in.

For the past 23 years, I've focused on raising awareness about vaccine-related issues, asserting that vaccines are unsafe, ineffective, unnecessary, and harmful. Initially, I believed vaccines contained only dead or weakened viruses and saline. However, after reading a package insert in September 2000, I discovered that children receiving the full vaccination schedule are exposed to nearly 13,000 micrograms of aluminum, 600 micrograms of mercury, and over 200 different chemicals. This revelation shocked me, highlighting that vaccines have never been proven safe. Vaccinating a child means injecting foreign substances into a precious life.

Most people are unaware that vaccines contain aluminum. Studies have shown that aluminum and mercury, both present in vaccines, are highly toxic when combined. The safety data sheet for thimerosal, a mercury-containing compound, clearly states that it should never be combined with aluminum. However, the FDA failed to consider this when assessing the safety of vaccines. The CDC conducted studies on the vaccine safety data link (VSD) to prove that thimerosal was safe, but the results showed elevated risks of autism. The CDC then manipulated the data to downplay the risks. The Institute of Medicine (IOM) conducted flawed studies that wrongly concluded that thimerosal is not linked to autism. The CDC and pharmaceutical companies have actively worked to suppress the truth about thimerosal's harmful effects.

Vaccines work by modifying a disease and injecting it into the body, which helps the immune system recognize and fight it. However, concerns arise regarding the safety of certain substances used in vaccines. Aluminum, mercury, formaldehyde, and propylene glycol are mentioned as potentially harmful ingredients. The speaker questions the lack of safety tests for these substances and their potential effects on the body, particularly the brain. They argue that vaccines have known side effects, including encephalopathy, and highlight the large amount of money paid out in damages to children harmed by vaccines. The speaker criticizes Bill Nye for oversimplifying the topic and omitting these concerns.

The speaker claims the six-month well baby visit is the most dangerous because babies get 10 vaccines at once. The newborn Hep B vaccine contains a dangerous form of aluminum. The one-year or 15-month visit is also risky due to the MMR vaccine's "undeniable" relationship to autism. At that visit, children may also receive chicken pox, Hep B, Prevnar, Tdap, COVID, and flu shots. The MMR and chickenpox vaccines contain four live viruses, which is a high risk for seizures. The speaker alleges vaccines load children with aluminum, creating inflammation, leaky gut, and leaky brain. Giving live viruses to children in this state causes brain inflammation and regression into autism. The vaccine schedule is a disaster and has never been studied in its entirety. Individual vaccines have not been studied with a proper placebo and only look at short-term side effects.

- "This is this is thimerosal, which is labeled very toxic." - "Has cumulative effects, can cause damage to the kidneys, to the respiratory system, skin, to the nervous system." - "Specifically warns on here that it can cause reproductive and developmental toxicity, meaning that it can cause things like autism and other neurodevelopmental disorders. This is immensely toxic stuff." - "And this is what's in the vaccine." - "Vaccines are a big one because, of course, you're directly injecting it." - "the influenza vaccine is now recommended for all pregnant women, all infants, all children on a yearly basis." - "They add thimerosal at each step because the factory is not clean and not sterile." - "Thimerosal, twenty five micrograms of mercury per dose." - "They weren't aware that even the word Thimerosal meant mercury."

"Chronic disease has gone from twelve point eight percent in our children in the nineteen eighties to over fifty four percent of our kids now." "72 times we are altering the immune system of our children with our vaccine program." "There'd be one easy study to rule it out, compare vaccinated children to completely unvaccinated children." "But we don't know because they've never done the study." "The vaccinated subjects were over four times more likely to have an asthma diagnosis." "Six hundred percent more acute and chronic ear infections." "Four point four seven times the amount of speech disorders in the vaccinated compared to the unvaccinated." "Amongst the unvaccinated group, there were zero. There was zero brain dysfunction, zero diabetes, zero behavioral problems, zero learning disabilities, zero intellectual disabilities, zero tics, and zero other psychological disabilities."

World governments have harmed millions without apology. The speaker believes vaccines cause autism, but mainstream media won't discuss it. They gathered data from 10,000 parents showing a link between vaccines and autism, ADHD, and other health issues. More shots lead to poorer health in children.

Laura Logan hosts a discussion with Dr. Sherri Tenpenny on vaccines, public health policy, and what they see as failures and harms within the system. The conversation weaves together personal history, policy details, scientific debates, and broader social concerns, intercut with promotional content for GiveSendGo. Key points and claims raised by Dr. Tenpenny - Vaccine ingredients and aluminum exposure: Tenpenny asserts that if someone receives every vaccine on the schedule, they would be injected with a total of about twelve thousand micrograms of aluminum, which she says is inflammatory to every organ system and can be stored in bones (60% of aluminum exposure). She notes aluminum is present in vaccines in order to replace mercury, which she describes as also a poison. - Early vaccine industry liability and the 1986 Act: The discussion explains that prior to 1986 there were liability concerns for vaccine makers due to injury lawsuits. Tenpenny recounts that in 1986 Congress passed a law giving the pharmaceutical industry liability immunity for vaccines, creating what she describes as a ramp in the vaccine schedule. She cites that by 1991 additional vaccines were introduced (Hep B at birth, Hib, chickenpox, Prevnar, Gardasil, Hep A, and more) and alleges this resulted in a rising autism incidence aligned with new vaccines. - The vaccine injury system: Tenpenny explains the Injury Compensation Act and the existence of VAERS as a tracking system, along with a separate pathway created under the PREP Act (the Preparedness and Readiness Act). She states that during the COVID era a separate program, the Covered Countermeasure Program (CICP), existed under the PREP Act, but it had no funding and a one-year statute of limitations, leading to under-compensation and very few adjudicated cases; she contrasts this with the earlier 1986 act, which funded vaccine injury compensation through the Federal Court of Claims and VAERS. - Perceived safety and effectiveness concerns: The speakers discuss studies suggesting that the flu shot might not prevent flu and that some studies indicate vaccines including pneumonia vaccines may be associated with higher risk of the conditions they aim to prevent. Tenpenny frames this as evidence of cracks in the vaccine program and argues that vaccines are linked to a broad spectrum of health issues, including autoimmune diseases, infertility, and cancers, which she says have been increasing. - Pediatric vaccination schedule and “pediatric poisoning program”: Tenpenny asserts that infants receive multiple injections early in life, with claims that by age two they will have thousands of micrograms of aluminum and other compounds that remain in the body, including in the brain. She characterizes the pediatric schedule as a systematic poisoning program for children and a parallel “adult assault program” for adults receiving vaccines. - COVID-19 vaccine controversy and health impacts: The conversation covers the COVID vaccines, including assertions about adverse effects such as myocarditis, strokes, kidney injury, autoimmune diseases, neurological issues, and cancers. Tenpenny describes long-term concerns (long COVID, autoimmune diseases) and claims of widespread injury and death, contending that the pandemic revealed how the health-care and pharmaceutical systems operate, including alleged corruption and profit motives. She discusses the difficult experiences of families during the pandemic, including restrictions on care and the use of alternate treatments like ivermectin in some cases. - The claim that COVID vaccines were not properly evaluated and that mandated vaccination reflected coercion: The speakers discuss mandates and the experiences of individuals in workplaces and educational institutions who faced pressure to receive vaccines, including religious exemptions and disputes about mandates. Tenpenny suggests a broader pattern of overreach in public health policy and questions about the balance between individual rights and mandates. - History and philosophy of public health programs: They discuss the Healthy People initiatives, arguing that the program’s goals have expanded in scope (from 15 goals to 1,200 for Healthy People 2030) and that the expansion is associated with greater surveillance and control over personal lives. Tenpenny claims that this is part of a broader trend toward data collection and governance of individual health and behavior. - The economics and incentives around vaccines: The conversation notes how physicians are compensated in part through vaccine administration, implying financial incentives influence clinical decisions. Tenpenny emphasizes the profit motive behind vaccines and the pharmaceutical industry’s financial interests, citing extreme examples like the one boy in a photo who allegedly became heavily medicated due to vaccines. - The role of media and information control: They discuss the influence of advertising in media since the 1990s and the difficulty of reporting critically on vaccines when major advertisers are pharmaceutical companies. They also mention AI and misinformation concerns, including examples of AI fabricating sources and the need to verify information. - Personal stakes, accountability, and political possibilities: Tenpenny discusses personal cost for challenging the vaccine paradigm, including an earlier period of potential licensing scrutiny and professional pushback. She names figures such as Fauci and Birx, argues that accountability has not yet occurred, and expresses hope that public interest in accountability could shift through advocacy and political leadership, citing RFK Jr. as a potential ally though acknowledging political and institutional obstacles. - Treatment and detoxification approaches: For those who have already received vaccines, Tenpenny outlines two separate tracks: detoxification for childhood vaccines and detox for COVID vaccines. For detox, she mentions products such as PureBody Extra (PBX), a zeolite-based supplement she says helps remove metals like aluminum and mercury from the body. She notes it is usable across age groups and even for pets, and she personally uses it. She also discusses non-specific detox approaches such as vitamin D optimization, lymphatic stimulation, exercise, and a diet focusing on avoiding white foods and reducing inflammation. She cautions that there is no proven blood or urine test to quantify spike protein after a COVID vaccine, and that detox strategies aim to support overall health rather than remove embedded spike protein from tissues. - The role of faith and resilience: The interview includes discussions of faith as a guiding force for Tenpenny, including her personal journey toward Christian faith in 2020. They reflect on fear, hope, forgiveness, and the idea that one can act with integrity and do the right thing even when faced with controversy or personal cost. They discuss existential questions about meaning, purpose, and moral responsibility, including the belief that life has a spiritual dimension that informs how to respond to public-health challenges. - Community and parenting: The conversation emphasizes the importance of community networks for new parents, including seeking mentorship from experienced parents and trusted health advocates, and maintaining parental agency in decisions about vaccines, medical interventions, and child-rearing. They discuss the value of critical thinking, asking questions, and avoiding blind trust in professionals or institutions. - Closing notes and resources: Tenpenny provides her websites and a Substack for ongoing information, including dr10penny.com, dr10penny.substack.com, and 10pennywalkwithgod.substack.com, as well as her X profile busy doctor t. The episode closes with a call to viewers to stay informed and to seek second opinions, while thanking the audience for supporting independent journalism. Overall, the dialogue centers on a critical, conspiratorial framing of vaccines, public-health policy, and the medical establishment; it weaves together testimonies about personal experience, policy history (notably the 1986 Act and the PREP Act), alleged systemic failures in compensation for vaccine injuries, criticisms of COVID-19 responses and vaccine mandates, and practical detoxification and faith-based guidance. The promotional content for GiveSendGo lightly interrupts the core discussion, but the majority of the exchange remains an extended argument about vaccine safety, accountability, and the perceived influence of big pharma on health care and public policy.

In 1989, the vaccine schedule increased from 10 to 24 vaccines, all containing thimerosal with mercury. Children are injected with 400 times the amount of mercury considered safe by the FDA or EPA. A newborn receives a hepatitis B shot, but under EPA guidelines, would have to be 275 pounds to safely absorb it. In 1988, autism affected 1 in 2,500 children; now it affects 1 in 166. Additionally, 1 in 6 children have learning, neurological, speech, or language disorders, ADD, or hyperactivity, all connected to autism. The federal government claims there's no good science linking vaccines to autism, but science is often diluted in politics. While it can't be proven now, intuitively, the speaker believes that thimerosal causes autism.

"The myth of vaccines that, a, they are safe and, b, they are necessary and that they eradicated childhood disease, that is a myth." "They've never been tested for safety." "There are no placebo controlled trials." "They always put in the control group the immunogens that's in the vaccines." "That those adjuvants, whether it be aluminum or other substances, those by themselves are dangerous." "they refused to do a true placebo controlled trial like with saline." "they almost all were nearly eradicated before the introduction of the vaccine." "That is not true." "It's reproducible, occurs at two months, four months, and six months." "And most of those deaths are within either days to a couple of weeks of the vaccine."

Vaccines contain various ingredients, including viruses, ethylmercury, aluminum, phenol formaldehyde, antifreeze, foreign RNA and DNA, animal DNA, and nanotechnology. These components can pass through the blood-brain barrier. The SV 40 virus, which could be deadly, was a result of undisclosed research. The scientist who discovered it, Dr. Mary Sherman, was killed, and her work was likely confiscated. The fear of germs persists, but having a strong immune system can protect against them.

Dr. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. believes that vaccines can be unsafe, but he hasn't found a safe one yet. The speaker agrees with this view, stating that all vaccines are suspect. They express concern about the presence of metals and chemicals in vaccines, which they were unaware of until reading a package insert. The speaker is shocked to learn that a child receiving the full vaccine schedule is exposed to around 13,000 micrograms of aluminum, 600 micrograms of mercury, and over 200 different chemicals. They believe that vaccines have not been proven safe and compare vaccinating a child to injecting foreign matter into a precious little baby.

Alisa did not vaccinate her child because she is scared of both vaccinating and not vaccinating. She read warnings about introducing alien microorganisms into children's blood, citing potential long-term effects ranging from allergies and asthma to cancer, leukemia, multiple sclerosis, and sudden infant death syndrome. She felt it was wrong to vaccinate and believes people should think twice. One speaker questions the biochemical legacy of vaccinations and how long the effects last. Another speaker states that putting something into a baby's bloodstream requires careful consideration. They claim information about vaccines isn't really known or researched, and cite the original birth control pill as an example of something once considered safe that later proved detrimental to health.

The speaker traces the origins and contents of vaccines from their earliest forms to modern childhood vaccines, presenting a sequence of claimed ingredients and comparisons. - The concept of a vaccine is said to have started from the word cowpox, with the idea that “cow pus” was used. Pus from cows was rubbed into wounds on people, leading to early vaccines. - They claim that practitioners experimented for a long time with various substances, including horse pus and cow pus from an infected horse’s hoof, rubbed into people. - Early vaccines are described as being steeped for years in a mix of ox bile, glycerin, and potato slices, which the speaker notes sounds like a joke but asserts to be true. - The evolution then moves to more modern-but-old-time ingredients, listing dried rabbit spinal cords, duck embryos, chicken blood, human bile (because it shouldn’t be wasted), ground-up rat spleens, and boiled pigskin as examples of earlier vaccine components. Switching to modern day vaccines, the speaker enumerates what is said to be present in today’s childhood vaccines: - Gelatin from boiled pigskin, described as similar to the old ingredient. - Chicken embryo protein. - Blood from the hearts of cow fetuses. - DNA fragments from human fetuses. - Oil extracted from shark livers. - Proteins from worm ovaries. - DNA fragments from monkey kidneys. The speaker then invokes a Shakespearean reference to Macbeth—“eye of Newt, toe of frog, lizard’s leg, tongue of dog”—to emphasize the appearance of a witch’s brew-like mixture in the composition of vaccines, suggesting that Gates, Offit, and Hotez are “sitting around in their witch’s brew putting this stuff together.” Further modern ingredients in childhood vaccines are listed: - Formaldehyde, described as bad. - Polysorbate eighty, claimed to be linked to infertility. - Potassium chloride, called out as the chemical injected as the third injection in lethal injections by executioners, noting that infants receive far less of it than executed individuals. - Sodium borate. - Triton X. - Ethyl mercury, stated as having been used “until very recently.” The speaker concludes with a strong personal stance: “I don’t want mercury injected into my kids. Period.” They recount a memory of a broken light requiring hazmat handling for mercury, contrasting that with the alleged injection of mercury into babies, and labeling the overall situation as crazy.

The speaker states they would not give their children the measles, mumps vaccine, claiming that measles was deadly in the early 1900s, but is now easily survivable, especially with Vitamin A. They claim studies show that contracting measles can make children healthier and more resistant to diseases later in life. The speaker denies causing a measles outbreak in Samoa, stating the Prime Minister had already banned the vaccine after deaths, and that people died from a bad vaccine imported from Australia, not measles. The speaker asserts that vaccines cause autism, citing a CDC study that showed an elevated risk of autism in children who received the hepatitis B vaccine within their first 30 days. They claim that studies disproving this link were fraudulent, conducted by "biostitutes" paid by the CDC, and that the lead scientist, Paul Thorensen, is a fugitive wanted for stealing money. The speaker claims there are hundreds of studies linking vaccines to autism and neurological injuries.

- "I would dismantle the whole vaccine apparatus." - "destroying the health of our children and our country." - "an autistic kid who's nonverbal? Their their entire lives are altered from that moment forth." - "They're unnecessary. They're built on myths." - "Unvaccinated children are far, far healthier than others." - "Measles? It's extremely rare." - "We have antivirals and ways to treat those illnesses that you just don't need the vaccines." - "The entire legislation in 1985 came about because the vaccine manufacturers threatened to stop manufacturing vaccines." - "They were deemed unavoidably unsafe, and they could not be liable anymore for all the injuries they were causing." - "Congress gives them immunity." - "They explode our schedule and they're jabbing every kid and they're weaponizing." - "Kids can't go to school in a lot of states and communities without getting fully vaccinated. Homeschool or move." - "Dissolving Illusions by Kathleen Humphries." - "Turtles All the Way Down, written by five, anonymous Israeli scientists."

Every vaccine causes harm, potentially leading to reduced IQ, allergies, food intolerances, GI issues, asthma, or eczema. Injecting poison into the body causes harm, and vaccines are unnecessary. Unvaccinated children are often the smartest and most inquisitive, ahead on milestones, and speak earlier. They rarely get sick, only needing physicals for sports, and don't require inhalers or other medications. Vaccines have not been proven safe, do not protect from illness, and cause harm to varying degrees. They are also unnecessary.

My name is Dr. Brian Hooker, a vaccine safety scientist. The law shields vaccine manufacturers, and the vaccine schedule has grown to 73 doses by 2023. FDA approved vaccines with minimal safety testing, and CDC never studied the overall impact on children's health. Research shows vaccinated children are more likely to have developmental delays, ear infections, and asthma compared to unvaccinated children. Unvaccinated children have lower rates of autoimmune, neurodevelopmental, and other disorders.

"What we're told is that the amount of aluminum in vaccines is completely safe. It's so miniscule. It would have no adverse effect on the human body." "Two hundred and fifty micrograms of aluminum are being injected into your day one old baby in that hepatitis b vaccine. Ten times the oral lethal dose in a rat study, and no one has ever checked it." "CBS reports United States Of America has the highest day one old birth rate in the world. In fact, we have more babies die in the first day of life than every other industrialized nation combined."