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The speaker asks if the Pfizer COVID vaccine was tested for its ability to stop virus transmission before being released. They request a clear yes or no answer and the data to be shared with the committee. The response states that they did not have prior knowledge of stopping transmission before the vaccine entered the market and had to rely on scientific research. Another speaker expresses outrage, claiming that people were pressured to get vaccinated based on the false belief that it would protect others.

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Speaker 1 claims that no vaccines, including the COVID vaccine, have been properly tested. They assert that no childhood vaccine has undergone a placebo-controlled clinical trial of sufficient duration and power to assess its safety before being injected into millions of children in America. Speaker 1 states this is not just their opinion, but can be verified by anyone who examines the FDA website, specifically the package inserts and underlying clinical trial documents.

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Twenty percent of Americans did not take the COVID vaccine because it was not safe enough. The mRNA in the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines has been chemically modified to resist breakdown by enzymes. The mRNA and spike protein are found in the heart and brain, and the spike protein circulates in the blood for six to nine months post-vaccination. The speaker claims the lethal part of the virus circulates in the blood of vaccinated individuals, especially after boosters, and that it is a killer protein. The speaker asserts safety trumps efficacy and objects to claims that vaccines, specifically the COVID-19 vaccine, saved millions of lives. They state that consent forms do not guarantee the vaccine will save lives and that there has never been a prospective, randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial showing that COVID-19 vaccines reduce mortality or hospitalization.

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The speaker asked if the Pfizer COVID vaccine was tested for stopping virus transmission before it was released. They wanted a clear yes or no answer and requested the data to be shared with the committee. In response, it was stated that no, they did not have knowledge about stopping transmission before the vaccine entered the market. They had to act quickly.

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The speaker discusses a WHO meeting in December 2019 where vaccine safety was questioned. It was revealed that there is no scientific proof that vaccines are safe and effective when used together. This realization exposed a 100-year bluff, leaving many concerned about the lack of evidence for vaccine safety. The cost and affordability of vaccines were also highlighted as a significant issue for families.

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No successful coronavirus vaccine has been made. Gene-based vaccines were tested on animals, leading to sickness and death. Despite concerns about safety and lack of long-term data, Canada continued vaccine rollout. A doctor raised safety concerns, was reprimanded for causing vaccine hesitancy, and saw neurological issues in patients post-vaccination. Questions to health authorities went unanswered, leading to a complaint to the College of Physicians and Surgeons.

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Speaker 1 claims that no vaccines, including the COVID vaccine, have been properly tested. They assert that no childhood vaccine has undergone a placebo-controlled clinical trial of sufficient duration and power to assess its safety before being injected into millions of children in America. Speaker 1 states this is not just their opinion, but can be verified by anyone who examines the FDA website, specifically the package inserts and underlying clinical trial documents.

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The speaker points out that the COVID-19 vaccine was released to the public without undergoing animal testing, which is unusual, especially for children. The animal testing was initially started but stopped due to the animals dying. This means that the American people are essentially being used as test subjects. Despite the rising death count, businesses are considering making the experimental vaccine mandatory for employees, and this issue is being ignored.

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Vaccine recommendations typically come from the Advisory Committee of Immunization Practices (an outside consulting committee at CDC) and VRBPAC (within FDA), which recommends vaccine licensure. These committees only adopted evidence-based medicine about twelve years ago. The speaker states that during their administration, they want safety studies prior to vaccine licensure and recommendation. They claim vaccines are exempt from pre-licensing safety testing, and the COVID vaccine was the only one tested in a full placebo trial. They assert that the other 76 shots children receive between birth and 18 have not been safety tested against a placebo, meaning the risk profile is not understood. The speaker intends to remedy this.

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The speaker claims that no double-blind, placebo-controlled safety trials have been conducted on any childhood vaccines currently on the market. The speaker states that they have searched for such trials and been unable to find any. According to the speaker, Anthony Fauci and Francis Collins allegedly admitted that placebo-controlled safety trials are not performed on childhood vaccines because it would be unethical to test products administered to children. The speaker challenges news agencies to provide evidence of a double-blind, placebo-controlled trial done prior to licensure for any childhood vaccine, asserting that it doesn't exist.

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Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 1 is vaccinated, to which Speaker 1 responds that they are not. Speaker 1 explains that they advised their family and loved ones against getting vaccinated because they believed the vaccine was experimental, not tested on humans, and had concerns about the company behind it. They also mention that most vaccines typically take several years to gather safety data before approval. Speaker 1 expresses their intuition that Operation Warp Speed, the vaccine development initiative, seemed rushed and lacking in safety protocols. However, Speaker 1 did not anticipate the widespread propaganda campaign promoting vaccination, and they were horrified to see everyone around them rushing to get vaccinated without proper testing.

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The speaker describes a committee conflict investigated by the office of inspector general and Congress, who urged change, but nothing happened. They claim medical malpractice by this group is evident in the approval of vaccines. The speaker states that in 1986 there were 11 vaccines, which increased to 69, then 92. They assert that, except for the COVID vaccine, none had a pre-licensing safety trial involving a true placebo. According to the speaker, these vaccines were introduced without safety studies, resulting in a lack of understanding regarding the risk profiles of these products. The speaker attributes this to corruption and agency capture.

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Speaker 0 notes a doubling or tripling of baby deaths in the last year, which sparked curiosity. Speaker 1 says their own government told them a medical treatment was safe, and it killed babies. Speaker 2 states they have lost all faith that Health Canada is looking out genuine for the best interests of Canadians. Speaker 1 says doctors made extra money to push vaccines and were given a billing code to do it, and she has pulled all the billing codes. Speaker 3 asserts they’ve purchased the vaccine that hasn’t been approved and distributed it to the provinces, so the second it’s approved they can start jabbing themselves and pregnant mothers with it. Speaker 4 asks why vaccinations were necessary, noting that when going to the hospital for birth, you expect to go home, and then you don’t. Speaker 0 suspects criminal negligence by the government and public health officials. Speaker 2 agrees, saying “Possible.” Speaker 0 contends they pushed a narrative to everybody, including pregnant and breastfeeding women, that the mRNA shots were safe and effective. Speaker 2 recalls wiretapping, harassment, and charges, and that they didn’t allow any expert witnesses to testify. Speaker 1 says Canadian babies died, and police are trying to cover it up by stopping detective Helen Graves from testifying about it. Speaker 3 comments that dominant individuals maintain subordinates’ place through constant aggression. Speaker 5 argues that choosing not to vaccinate is one thing, but being unable to fly or ride trains with vaccinated people and thus putting them at risk is another issue. Speaker 2 says CBC started with a story to implicate her and paint her in an uncomplimentary light to the public. Speaker 6 claims Canada must shift its understanding of CBC, describing it as a state broadcaster pushing the agenda of the Liberal government of Canada. Speaker 3 declares this is the most significant health matter affecting children today, and they are still not investigating. Speaker 2 asserts that everything emanates outward from this case involving law enforcement, the judicial system, the pharmaceutical industry, and health agencies, and how they work together and censored information; all of it ties to this one case, making it dangerous.

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The Pfizer COVID vaccine was not tested for its ability to stop the transmission of the virus before it entered the market. The speaker acknowledges that they had to work quickly to understand the situation and move at the speed of science.

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In January 2022, a colleague alerted Speaker 0 that there had been a doubling or tripling of baby deaths in the last year, which sparked curiosity. Speaker 1 states that “Their own government told us a medical treatment was safe, and it killed babies.” Speaker 2 says she has “lost all faith that Health Canada is looking out genuinely for the best interests of Canadians.” Speaker 3 alleges that doctors “made extra money to push vaccines” and were given a billing code to do it, and that she has “pulled all the billing codes.” Speaker 4 asserts that “They've purchased the vaccine that hasn't been approved,” distributed it to the provinces so that once it’s approved, they can “start jabbing ourselves with it” and “start jabbing pregnant mothers with it.” Speaker 3 questions the necessity of vaccinations: “Why did we have to get these vaccinations? Like, why was this something that we had to do? You go to the hospital, you expect to have a baby, and you expect to go home, and then you don't.” Speaker 0 speculates on criminal negligence, saying, “I would suspect that there was criminal negligence on part of the government and the public health officials.” Speaker 3 notes that it is “highly recommended that pregnant women get their vaccine as soon as possible.” Speaker 0 contends that a narrative was pushed to everybody, including pregnant and breastfeeding women, that the mRNA shots were safe and effective. Speaker 2 claims wiretapping, harassment, charging, and barring expert witnesses: “They had wiretapped her phone. They had harassed her. They had charged her. They didn't allow any expert witnesses to testify.” Speaker 1 accuses police of trying to cover up Canadian babies’ deaths “to the point of stopping detective Helen Greaves from testifying about it.” Speaker 4 observes that “The dominant individuals keep the subordinates in their place by constant aggression.” Speaker 5 discusses vaccination choice versus public risk, remarking, “If you don't wanna get vaccinated, that's your choice. But don't think you can get on a plane or a train besides vaccinated people and put them at risk,” and claims CBC initially “started off with CBC running a story to implicate her and to paint her with a brush that looks uncomplimentary to the public.” Speaker 6 claims Canada must shift its understanding of what the is, describing it as “a state broadcaster pushing the agenda of the Liberal government of Canada.” Speaker 4 calls this “the most significant matter affecting our children today from a health perspective,” noting that authorities are “not investigating.” Speaker 2 concludes that everything emanates outward from this case involving law enforcement, the judicial system, the pharmaceutical industry, and health agencies, “how they work together, how they censored information. It all ties together to this one case, and that's what makes it so dangerous.”

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The speaker states they searched for years for a pre-licensing safety trial of the 72 vaccine doses effectively mandated for American children. They claim that every other medication requires a safety trial comparing health outcomes in a placebo group versus a vaccine group before FDA licensing. The speaker assumed this was also done for vaccines. They state they found out that vaccines were exempt from this requirement.

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The speaker claims a committee experienced typical conflict, but a specific conflict was particularly obvious. The Office of Inspector General and Congress investigated and urged change, but nothing happened. The speaker asserts this group committed medical malpractice by approving vaccines, increasing the number from 11 in 1986 to 69 and then 92. They state that, except for the COVID vaccine, none had pre-licensing safety trials with a true placebo. According to the speaker, these vaccines were introduced without safety studies, meaning the risk profiles are unknown. The speaker attributes this to corruption and agency capture.

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The speaker asked if the Pfizer COVID vaccine was tested for stopping virus transmission before it was released. They requested a clear yes or no answer and asked for the data to be shared with the committee. The speaker then stated that they did not have knowledge about stopping immunization before the vaccine entered the market.

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The speaker raises concerns about the government of Canada purchasing and importing COVID-19 vaccines before they are approved by Health Canada. They highlight the conflict of interest in the government approving a drug they have already bought and distributed. The speaker suggests that a third party should have been responsible for the approval process to avoid this conflict.

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The speaker points out that the COVID-19 vaccine was released to the public without completing animal testing, which is unusual, especially for children. The animal testing was stopped because the animals were dying. This means that the American people are essentially being used as guinea pigs for this experimental vaccine. Despite the rising death count, businesses are considering making the vaccine mandatory for employees, which is concerning.

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Speaker 1 states that no vaccines, including the COVID vaccine, have been properly tested. They claim that no childhood vaccine has undergone a placebo-controlled clinical trial of sufficient duration and power to assess its safety before being injected into millions of children in America. Speaker 1 asserts this is not an opinion, but can be verified by anyone reviewing package inserts and clinical trial documents on the FDA website.

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When we discussed vaccines, you mentioned a lack of post-approval safety monitoring, which suggests you may not be aware of the ongoing safety measures in place. Are you aware of the monitoring conducted by Health and Human Services after vaccine approval? I know about the VAERS system, which captures less than 1% of vaccine injuries. Are you familiar with the FDA's post-approval monitoring? I’m aware of two systems. What about the Vaccine Safety Data Link? Yes, I know about that. And the Clinical Immunization Safety Assessment Project? As I mentioned... Are you aware of v-safe? I know those systems have issues, and I can explain. It's essential to ensure we have gold standard science without conflicts of interest. The measures I listed are crucial for ensuring vaccine safety and effectiveness, supported by extensive studies and independent reviews. Dismissing this undermines the value of vaccines.

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Speaker 0 questions Speaker 1 about the lack of clinical trial data for the MMR vaccine. Speaker 1 insists that the vaccine was extensively tested before being licensed and that millions of doses have been used. Speaker 0 asks for proof of pre-licensure clinical trials, but Speaker 1 only refers to a book and mentions studies done in the 1960s. Speaker 0 argues that the data provided is not sufficient and questions the absence of a placebo group. Speaker 1 admits uncertainty about the inclusion of control groups but maintains that safety assessments were conducted. Speaker 0 concludes that no randomized placebo-controlled study exists for the MMR vaccine. Speaker 1 agrees to provide additional information after the deposition.

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None of the vaccines, including the COVID vaccine, have undergone proper testing. No childhood vaccine has completed a placebo-controlled clinical trial with sufficient duration and power to confirm its safety before being administered to millions of children in America. This is not an opinion; it can be verified by anyone visiting the FDA website, where the package inserts and clinical trial documents are available for review.

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Joe Rogan Experience #2462 - Aaron Siri
Guests: Aaron Siri
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In this episode, the discussion centers on vaccines, the regulatory framework surrounding them, the incentives within the pharmaceutical industry, and how information about vaccines has been shaped and transmitted in public discourse. The guest critiques the immunity regime that shields vaccine manufacturers from certain lawsuits, arguing that the economics of vaccines differ from other products and that this creates a distinct dynamic in safety, disclosure, and accountability. The conversation traverses the historical context of vaccine regulation, including the 1986 act that afforded manufacturers immunity and how that has influenced industry behavior, post-licensure safety monitoring, and the incentives to promote uptake. The speakers compare vaccine safety testing with that of other drugs, highlighting that most medicines undergo multi-year placebo-controlled trials, whereas vaccines for children reportedly rely on shorter safety windows, and the implications this may have for long-term safety data. They discuss how the public health establishment communicates risk and how some critics interpret official messaging as evidence of bias or suppression, touching on episodes where information about adverse events or potential harms was restricted or debated in public forums. The dialogue also addresses broader questions about how markets, litigation, and government policy shape product safety, using analogies from industry cases to illustrate why some harms are addressed through litigation while others are managed through different regulatory or compensation mechanisms. Throughout, the tone emphasizes the importance of examining primary sources, challenging assumptions, and recognizing the role of media ecosystems, platforms, and incentives in shaping what information reaches the public. The exchange keeps returning to the tension between collective public health goals and individual rights, arguing for a system that rewards transparency, accountability, and a robust, evidence-based examination of harms and benefits, even when such an analysis unsettles long-standing beliefs about vaccines and disease prevention.
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