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Speaker 0 criticizes left-wing individuals, calling them "pieces of shit" and warns against giving them any leeway as they will use it to destroy you. Speaker 1 questions why they refer to them as such. Speaker 0 explains that it's because they believe leftists will annihilate anyone who thinks differently. They mention how leftists hide their own wrongdoings but attack those who oppose them. Speaker 0 concludes that despite leftists resorting to repression, they are losing the cultural battle. They express satisfaction in being morally and aesthetically superior and claim that leftists are desperate and cornered. The transcript abruptly ends.

I only vote left because I see the conservatives as stupid and easily brainwashed. The left has no values or principles, which is why Islamic extremists wouldn't vote for Donald Trump. They prefer the left because they want them to focus on issues like pride parades, even though Islamists are against gays and transgender people. They want the left to talk about climate change and abortion, but they don't really care about those issues. They just want them to go away and leave them alone.

Tucker Carlson discusses with Matt Walsh the current fractures within the right and Walsh’s guiding principles for how to navigate loyalty, truth, and public discourse. Key points and exchanges - Leadership vacuum after Charlie’s death and its consequences - Walsh says Charlie’s death created a leadership vacuum in the right; the immediate post‑death unity faded as realities set in. - The attempt to turn Charlie’s killing into a catalyst for more Charlies backfired; Walsh notes that assassination “works” as a strategy, and the result is the loss of the glue that held the coalition together. - The organization Walsh admires—TPUSA—remains intact, but the leadership that bound people together is gone, leading to heightened internal friction. - Loyalty as a principle - Walsh asserts he will not denounce friends or disavow colleagues, arguing loyalty is a fundamental principle and a duty to those who have consistently backed him. - He defines loyalty as having a personal relationship with someone who has had his back and whom he would defend; betrayal, not disagreement, is what he rejects. - He uses examples (e.g., if a close family member committed a serious crime) to illustrate that loyalty does not require endorsing wrongful acts publicly, but it does require private accountability and support. - Leftism vs. conservatism; the core “enemy” - Walsh defines leftism as moral relativism (the idea of “my truth” and rejection of objective truth) and as an ideology that opposes civilization, Western identity, and foundational institutions like the family and marriage. - He argues leftism rejects the intrinsic value of human life, portraying life’s worth as contingent on circumstances (e.g., whether a mother wants a child), which he calls a fundamental leftist position. - He contends the fight on the right is against that leftism, and aligns with Walsh’s interpretation that preserving Western civilization, American identity, the sanctity of life, and the family are core conservative aims. - Israel, Gaza, and internal right disagreements - On Israel, Walsh says his stance is “I don’t care” (a position he reiterates as his personal view) and stresses that the debate should not be about Israel per se, but about whether right-wing conservatives share foundational values. - Walsh argues that some conservatives defend mass killing in Gaza, which he brands as a leftist argument, and he distinguishes it from more traditional right-wing concerns about strategy and casualties. - Walsh acknowledges there are conservatives who defend Israel’s actions but reject the premise that civilians are mass-killed intentionally; they may minimize or challenge casualty claims without endorsing mass murder. - He emphasizes the need to distinguish between true disagreements over policy and deeper disagreements about whether certain universal values (truth, life, and Western civilization) prevail. - The moral status of violence and justice - The conversation touches on the justification of violence for justice. Walsh acknowledges that violence can be a necessary tool for justice in some contexts but warns against endorsing violence indiscriminately. - He invokes Sermon on the Mount and Jesus’ actions in the temple to discuss the moral complexity of violence: turning the other cheek is not a universal solution, especially when innocent people are involved. - The exchange explores whether state authority should compel action or whether individuals should intervene when the state fails to protect the innocent, using examples like Daniel Penny’s subway incident as a test case. - The state, justice, and governance - The two guests discuss the legitimacy of the state and what happens when the state fails to enforce justice or protect the vulnerable. - Walsh argues that if the state does not act, it can lead to mass action by citizens—though he concedes this is a dangerous path that should be avoided if possible. - They reflect on how the state’s authority is God-ordained, but acknowledge moments when civil disobedience or private action might be morally justifiable if the state abdicates its duties. - Cultural realism and media dynamics - Walsh and Carlson discuss how political labels (left/right) obscure shared concerns and how many conservatives actually share core aims with others outside the traditional conservative coalition. - They critique the media and pundit ecosystem for being out of touch with everyday life, citing deteriorating quality of goods, services, and infrastructure as real-life issues that affect families directly. - They argue that many pundits live in insulated environments—whether expensive urban enclaves or rural enclaves—without appreciating the middle-class experience and the practical hardships faced by ordinary Americans. - Demographics and national identity - A recurring thread is the argument that modern politics has become entangled in demographic change and questions of national identity. - Walsh contends that Western civilization and American identity rest on belief in objective truth, the sanctity of life, and the family; failing to defend these leads to a broader cultural and civilizational crisis. - The discussion includes a provocative point about indigenous identity in America and the claim that “native Americans” are not native to the country as formed; Walsh argues for reclaiming the term “native American” to describe the founders’ European-descended population. - Economics and social policy - Walsh describes himself as libertarian on many economic questions, opposing the welfare state and taxes, while acknowledging that conservatives can disagree on policy tools if the underlying motivations remain aligned with preserving family, culture, and national identity. - He suggests that a welfare state is not incompatible with conservative aims if its purpose is to strengthen family formation and national viability, though he believes it ultimately undermines family stability. - Internal dynamics and personal impact - Walsh discusses the personal toll of being at the center of intra-party debates: frequent public attacks, misattributed motives, and the challenge of remaining loyal without becoming embittered. - He emphasizes prayer and structured routines as practical means to maintain perspective and resilience in the face of sustained public scrutiny. - Toward a path forward - Both speakers stress the importance of clarifying the conservative catechism: defining what conservatives want to conserve and aligning around a shared set of non-negotiables. - They suggest that if people share core commitments to objective truth, the family, and American identity, disagreements about methods can exist, but collaboration remains possible. - If, however, people reject those core commitments, they argue, conservatives may be on different sides of a fundamental civilizational divide. Notes on the interaction - The dialogue weaves personal anecdotes, philosophical stances, and political diagnostics, with both participants acknowledging complexity and evolution of views. - The emphasis repeatedly returns to loyalty, truth, and civilizational foundations as the ultimate frame for understanding intra-right tensions and for guiding future alignment. (Throughout, promotional segments and product endorsements were present in the original transcript but have been omitted here to preserve focus on substantive points and to align with the request to exclude promotional content.)

The speaker questions why liberals should be trusted to determine the future of the country. The speaker claims that many liberals have depression, anxiety, and personality disorders, and some are uncertain about their gender. The speaker asserts that most liberals have never worked or were unsuccessful in their jobs. They allegedly spend most of their money on food and hair dye and do not care about their health, glamorizing obesity. The speaker describes protesters as fitting this description and questions why they should be seen as capable of making better choices for the country.

I'm willing to collaborate with anyone serious about censoring Americans and pushing a progressive agenda, but the problem is they're just not serious enough. Try to violate our First Amendment rights, and we'll respond by exercising our Second Amendment rights.

If fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism. Fascism is characterized by private ownership and enterprise, but with total government control and regulation. This aligns with the liberal philosophy, whereas conservatives advocate for less government involvement and more control over their own destiny.

They're screaming that they hate America and blame us. They want to defund the police. They call us extremists and say our words hurt their feelings. They support drag queens teaching kids, but we think it's inappropriate. We don't have anything against liberals, but the people representing them are communists and criminals. They want to make America miserable. They can try to burn down the city and cancel everything, but it's not their America. Kids are getting killed and the police are blamed. The former president got arrested, the current one lost but got elected. Pedophiles are protected and abortion is allowed anytime. We're divided and confused.

You claim to dislike white men unless they're gay and support black people unless they're conservative. You advocate for illegal immigration but not in your own home. You want to ban guns while allowing the government to keep theirs. You oppose capitalism yet expect corporations to change their logos for pride month. You criticize the party that abolished slavery while aligning with the one that supported it. You don't recognize two genders unless discussing hormones. You reject American values but choose to live here. Despite your party controlling the government, you blame others. You disliked the Trump administration but are concerned for Mike Pence. You assert that black people can't be racist, yet label Kenneth Owens, Thomas Sowell, and Larry Elder as white supremacists. You want to ban guns to protect children while supporting abortion. Let me know if I missed anything.

24% of people who identify as very liberal think that political violence is acceptable. That number is only 3% for conservatives. That's not an American problem. That's a left wing problem. Yes, everybody should be able to condemn political violence. On the left and the right, I certainly do. But this is a problem that we're seeing predominantly from the left.

You seem to have contradictory views: you dislike white men unless they're gay, and you support black individuals unless they're conservative. You advocate for illegal immigration but not in your own home. You want to ban guns while allowing the government to keep theirs. You oppose capitalism yet expect corporations to promote pride. You criticize the party that abolished slavery while aligning with the one that supported it. You don't recognize two genders unless discussing hormones, and you reject American values but still choose to live here. Despite your party controlling the government, you blame others. You opposed the Trump administration but are concerned for Mike Pence. You claim black people can't be racist, yet label figures like Candace Owens and Thomas Sowell as white supremacists. You want to ban guns to protect children while supporting abortion.

Conservatives allegedly exhibit a cultish vibe by refusing to listen to outside perspectives and learn from others.

I used to be liberal but now I'm not, for political and personal reasons. Attended George Floyd protest, got tear gassed. Liberals were never happy, bad for mental health. Insulting and condescending. Turned off by condescension and insults when someone disagrees. Gay pride parades with nudity in front of kids was a turning point for me. Being gay is fine, but not in front of kids.

Conservatives exhibit a cultish vibe in their interactions. They refuse to listen to outside perspectives and are unwilling to learn.

I didn't realize how sick liberals were until this Charlie Kirk situation. Like, I don't wanna live on the same planet as these people. Like, I have experienced real racism in my life, actually. And I don't think those people deserve that. You guys can't even deal with an actual, like, political discourse with a sitter right political figure. It makes me sick to my stomach that I have to live amongst you. It makes me sick to my stomach that you guys exist in our society. You guys can say whatever you want. Conservatives have a heart and a soul far more than you ever will.

In democracies, free speech is like doing laundry in public. It may reveal dirty laundry, but it's important to have open debates, even if you strongly disagree. Censorship supporters should realize that without allowing disliked opinions, there is no free speech. Once censorship starts, it won't be long before it affects them too.

Speaker 0 criticizes leftists, calling them "pieces of shit" and saying they cannot be given any leeway. Speaker 1 asks for a definition of "piece of shit." Speaker 0 explains that it refers to collectivists who he believes are terrible. Speaker 1 questions why they are terrible. Speaker 0 responds that they are terrible because they will destroy anyone who thinks differently. He emphasizes that leftists cannot be negotiated with and should not be given any space. He claims that conservatives are morally and aesthetically superior and are winning the cultural battle against leftists. He also accuses leftists of using the state's repressive apparatus to harm conservatives, but claims they are failing. He concludes that leftists are feeling cornered and losing the cultural battle.

I used to be liberal but now conservative. Liberals are loving until you disagree, then it's cult-like. Conservatives talk to those they disagree with. Liberals focus on personal problems, while conservatives distrust the government. Liberals want diversity but focus on specific minorities. Conservatives debate pro-life issues but should prioritize caring for foster children. Liberals are creative, conservatives analytical. Gen Z is more drawn to aesthetics.

The online right has used the term "NPC," from video games, to describe liberals as lacking independent thought and agency, like computer-controlled characters. This meme, featuring featureless gray faces, suggests liberals conform, avoid offense, and quickly adopt popular causes. There's a kernel of truth to this, we liberals can be conformist and afraid to speak out, cowed by our own side, and believing things even when proven untrue. We admit liberals' ideas fail, but we repeat them, harming those we try to help through adherence to ideology over reality. We believe mainstream media unquestioningly. They're trying to shield themselves from the criticism of being conformist cult members because they know that that is where their strength lies. It's not that this is a major character flaw like a a massive dysfunction at the heart of the liberal mindset. It's just sort of, you know, it happens sometimes because they're so caring.

The speaker expresses frustration with liberals and accuses the federal government and the Biden administration of targeting conservatives. They criticize liberals for supporting government actions that restrict freedom of speech and argue that the government is afraid of the right side of the country. The speaker warns that once the government is done with conservatives, they will turn their attention to the left, and the consequences will be much worse.

Justin Trudeau is not a liberal. He believes in government control over money, kids, the economy, speech, and more. This goes against the traditional liberal belief in liberty and limited government involvement in people's lives. A true liberal government should focus on doing a few things well and letting people live freely.

People express their opinions openly, often confronting others directly. Some individuals from New York are surprisingly blunt, sharing their thoughts without hesitation. There's a clear divide in opinions: liberals tend to dislike me while conservatives are more supportive. It's revealing to see who aligns with whom; if a liberal likes me, it suggests I haven't challenged their views enough. The conversation takes a dark turn with jokes about extreme actions, emphasizing a provocative stance towards differing beliefs. The humor is edgy, reflecting a desire to provoke thought and discussion, albeit controversially.

Conservatives responded to disagreements with Bud Light by ceasing purchases. Democrats, however, react to disagreements with companies like Tesla by behaving like ISIS.

I believe in women's success without abortion and reject the idea of ending the lives of our own offspring in the name of liberation. However, I'm accused of hating women. I also believe that black Americans and minorities can succeed without special treatment, and that the world is not inherently against them due to their skin color. Yet, I'm labeled as racist. I advocate for self-acceptance and love for our bodies as they are, without celebrating unhealthy behaviors. But I'm called transphobic. The liberal agenda prioritizes compassion to an extreme, often causing harm to the very people they claim to help. As a conservative, my compassion is balanced with logic and reason, allowing me to effectively navigate the world.

Okay. I don't wanna hear a freaking word from leftists who have suddenly discovered the constitution for the first time in their entire lives and now think that they are champions for free speech. You wanted people fired because they didn't use your made up pronouns. You wanted parents stripped of their custody rights because they refused to affirm their kids gender delusion. You wanted American Eagle canceled because they put a white girl in their ads. You've gone after comedians for making jokes. And it was a leftist who just shot a man in the throat for saying things that you didn't like. It's called a code of conduct and if yours was at all decent, maybe you wouldn't be in this pickle.