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Attorney General Barr lied about investigating Epstein's death, claiming there was nothing to look into. However, the speaker argues that the guards falling asleep and not doing the count is an insult and laughable. In the event of a count not being cleared, the whole facility would be locked down, and SWAT teams would be called due to concerns of a hostage situation or guard murder. The speaker believes that Epstein was killed by operatives brought into solitary confinement, who let themselves out at night, killed Epstein, and made it look like a suicide. The first autopsy indicated strangulation, not suicide.

The president stated the focus on the Epstein files is a "hoax" started and run by Democrats for four years, involving figures like Christopher Wray and Comey. He likened it to the "steel dossier" and the 51 intelligence agents, claiming it's all a Democratic-led hoax that some Republicans fall for. He said Democrats are bad for policy and picking electable candidates, citing a "communist" candidate in New York. He prefers to focus on his administration's achievements, like the economy and progress in the Middle East, rather than Epstein, who he says "had some very serious problems" and died three or four years ago. He believes those pursuing the Epstein issue are "stupid people" doing the Democrats' work.

The speaker doesn't understand why supporters are interested in the Jeffrey Epstein story, as Epstein is dead and "was never a big factor." The speaker believes the case is "pretty boring stuff" and doesn't understand why it continues to be discussed. The speaker suggests that "only pretty bad people, including fake news, wanna keep something like that going." They state that if there's credible information, "let them have it." The speaker then pivots to a question about AI.

The speaker claims the focus on the Epstein files is a "hoax" started and run by Democrats for four years, involving figures like Christopher Wray and Comey. They compare it to the Steele dossier and the 51 intelligence agents, labeling it all a "big hoax" perpetrated by Democrats, with some Republicans falling into the trap. The speaker believes this "Epstein hoax" distracts from discussing their achievements, such as the economy and progress in the Middle East. They express frustration that people are "doing the Democrats' work" by focusing on Epstein instead of these accomplishments.

An individual claims they received information about Jeffrey Epstein's death from someone seeking to convey the seriousness of the people involved. This individual states that a detail from the Epstein crime scene indicates it was murder, not suicide. Specifically, the guards who supposedly fell asleep had traces of nitrous oxide in their blood. This suggests someone smuggled laughing gas into the facility, accessed the ventilation system, and incapacitated the guards. The individual speculates that 14 cameras were disabled, and a corrupt cop was released from a nearby cell to kill Epstein before returning to his cell. The hose and laughing gas canister were then removed. The individual suggests this level of sophistication points to a state-level actor, not a typical mob hit.

According to the speaker, 53% of people aware of the Hunter Biden laptop story would have changed their vote, including 61% of Democrats. The speaker claims this constitutes election meddling by the FBI on behalf of Democrats, funded by US taxpayers. The speaker characterizes this as collusion, corruption, and unconstitutional.

"Mister president, I know you've urged people to move on, but I'm curious, why do you think your supporters in particular have been so interested in the Epstein story?" "He's dead for a long time." "I don't understand what the interest or what the fascination is." "It's pretty boring stuff. It's sorted, but it's boring." "Don't forget, we went through years of the Mueller witch hunt and all of the different things, the steel dossier, which was all fake." "All that information was fake." "But credible information, let them give it." "Anything that's credible, I would say, let them have it." "I I think, well, really only pretty bad people, including fake news, wanna keep something like like that going."

Many voters believe that the president was involved in his son's business dealings and that he lied about it. Over half of the voters surveyed by CNN expressed this belief.

"I have a headline here from the Washington Post that said Trump peddles false conspiracy theories tying the Clintons to several deaths." "the death of Mark Middleton, was a former Clinton White House aide, who was found dead dead on a Clinton Foundation property." "Sometime on May 7, Mark Middleton decided to drive 30 miles away from his home to the Heifer Ranch in Perryville and both hung and shot himself with a shotgun at the same time." "Arranged at least seven of the 17 visits that Epstein made to the White House and flew on the Lolita Express several times himself, according to Daily Mail." "They have filed an injunction arguing that blocking the release of the footage would halt a proliferation of unsubstantiated conspiracy theories." "The body count of the Clintons is well over a 100 that they've killed."

The speaker asserts that the effort to release the Epstein files came directly from President Trump. They acknowledge that many people may have a hard time with this claim, but state that it is the truth. The speaker also says that Trump fought the hardest to stop these files from being released.

John and Mario discuss the breadth and implications of the Epstein files, asserting that Epstein was an access agent connected to Mossad and deeply embedded with various intelligence actors. - Epstein as Mossad access agent and broader intelligence ties: - John asserts that Epstein’s status as a Mossad access agent is correct and that Epstein sought contact with the CIA, the FBI, the National Security Council, MI5, MI6, and even Russia’s Putin. He notes emails from Epstein’s side asking for private meetings with Putin, which were granted in a restricted form, while Epstein’s attorneys reportedly filed FOIA requests with the CIA and NSC about any association with them. - The conversation expands to consider broader pressure on the DOJ and the Trump administration to redact or withhold documents, with Congresswoman May mentioned as observing DOJ monitoring of her and colleagues. - The two discuss the idea that the “movers and shakers” in American culture and the billionaire/political class are driving the cover-up, with the implication that releases mandated by law have not been fully honored. - Death of Epstein and questions about the death/mortality: - Both speakers repeatedly state “Epstein did not kill himself,” noting the belief that he was murdered and cremated, preventing body examination. - They list several anomalies surrounding Epstein’s death: attempted suicide on July 23 with deleted footage, six days of suicide watch followed by removal from watch contrary to protocol, guards’ missed rounds, an empty cell with a removed cellmate who had been violent, an unmonitored call the day before death, and camera malfunctions on the day of death. - They discuss a decoy body used in the autopsy process and discrepancies in the autopsy report (ear shape, nose, and penis appearance) and a DOJ report dated a day earlier than publicized. The discussion includes the possibility of a decoy body to mislead reporters. - A forensic expert is cited, noting that the autopsy description described a normal penis, conflicting with accounts from a victim about a deformed penis. - Redactions, sources, and the release of documents: - They argue the released files overwhelm audiences and muddy facts, with millions of documents, of which only a fraction has been released; the rest remain redacted. - John explains FOIA processes and redaction rules (sources/methods, unindicted co-conspirators, victims’ privacy), emphasizing that there is little justification to redact content about Epstein himself since he is deceased. - They compare the redaction situation to the torture report, where redacted material obscures critical findings, and point out inconsistencies in what names are redacted (e.g., Les Wexner redacted as “Les” but not his full surname). - Libyan assets, Ukraine, and other financial angles: - A memo shows Epstein plotting to loot Libya’s frozen assets, with Greg Brown (former MI6 and Mossad connections mentioned) proposing to identify recovered assets and take 5–10% as compensation, with Libya’s reconstruction spending potentially exceeding $100 billion. - The discussion notes that the U.S. Treasury rewards those who facilitate repatriation of unfrozen assets, creating incentives for private actors with intelligence ties to pursue such recoveries. - A separate thread cites a 2014 Ukraine-related discussion where Epstein allegedly said the upheaval could provide opportunities; the Rothschilds are reported to have emailed Epstein about Ukraine and asset management strategies, implying Epstein represented the Rothschilds in asset opportunities. - They discuss the possibility that events like regime changes could be exploited for personal gain, with Epstein’s reputation management and potential money-motivated exploitation of geopolitical upheavals. - Honeypots, blackmail, and sex as an intelligence instrument: - The discussion covers claims of victims receiving death threats in Hebrew, and whether this indicates Mossad involvement or a private group using Hebrew phrasing to threaten. They argue Mossad has historically used threats and spying, and Epstein’s network could include others who leveraged sexual exploits for leverage. - They examine emails describing sexual activity in a transactional manner, with grainy surveillance footage capturing some redacted sexual content, suggesting a blackmail operation rather than simple perversion alone. - They consider whether Epstein’s sex life served as a bargaining chip for intelligence services, with Epstein’s protection and coercion potentially enabling illicit activity to be used for intelligence purposes. - Notable connections and individuals: - Fergie (Sarah, Duchess of York) is discussed as having close ties to Epstein, including emails referencing “marry me” and a period after his conviction; Prince Andrew is noted as heavily implicated in the broader Epstein network. - Howard Lutnick’s name appears in the documents; his denial of involvement with Epstein is highlighted as a potential discrepancy given the surrounding evidence. - The possibility that redacted materials could still reveal high-level connections or be weaponized against political figures is considered, with the overarching view that information could resurface or be released later to influence politics. - Final stance and ongoing investigation: - John maintains that Epstein’s role as an intelligence asset is supported by the files released to date and that more documents remain to be disclosed. He emphasizes that the situation involves intersecting intelligence communities, financial opportunism, and political exposure, with ongoing questions about the true extent of who knew what and who protected whom. The conversation closes with an acknowledgment that more files will likely be released, more information will emerge, and expert analysis will continue to evolve.

I strongly believe that Jeffrey Epstein's death was not a suicide. It is crucial for the nation and the world to acknowledge this and uncover the responsible individuals, including corrupt figures in power who have the ability to harm inmates. Jail is an environment where it is relatively easy to carry out such acts.

The speaker states he doesn't understand why his supporters are interested in the Jeffrey Epstein story, as Epstein has been dead for a long time and was never a big factor in his life. He claims he doesn't understand the interest or fascination, especially since credible information has been given. He compares the situation to the "Mueller witch hunt" and the "steel dossier," which he claims was all fake. He finds the Epstein case boring and doesn't understand why it continues to be discussed. He suggests that only "pretty bad people, including fake news" want to keep the story alive, but says that if there is credible information, "let them have it."

A video posted by President Trump highlights what some call the "Clinton body count," referring to suicides in Clinton circles. One example cited is Mark Middleton, a former Clinton White House aide found dead on Clinton Foundation property, having apparently shot himself in the chest with a shotgun and hung himself from a tree. A question is posed about Jeffrey Epstein's suicide, and the missing connection to intelligence agencies in the released phase one of the Epstein files. The speaker claims the whole story involves trafficking young girls on behalf of intelligence agencies, potentially as part of a blackmail ring with ties to the Israeli government. The questioner asks when phase two will be released and if it will contain information pertaining to those aspects of the Epstein case. The response refers the questioner to the Department of Justice on the timeline, but assures that the attorney general has kept her promises in the past.

Jeffrey Epstein was murdered in the most secure federal lockup in the country, yet there was no real investigation. Attorney General Barr lied about it. Where are the tapes from Epstein's properties? The fact that we can't see them suggests a massive blackmail operation run by intel agencies to control famous people. If someone can kill Epstein in a secure lockup and get away with it, that's a powerful, dangerous force. It's important to talk about it though because we need transparency and honesty. Crimes like this make people feel impotent and paranoid, leading to a society where no one believes anything. We need a country where things are what they seem, where people are honest and admit mistakes, not a place of crazy deceptions and murders.

He was murdered in the most secure part of the federal detention facility in Manhattan, our biggest city, and Bill Barr, the then attorney general under Donald Trump, covered it up. Maybe there's no connection there. I don't know. There. I just learned, and I believe it's true, I learned from a very well informed person, that it was Donald Barr who got Epstein his job at Bear Stearns. But I I called it circumstantial case, doctor. It's not a proof. It's circumstantial case. So I'm totally convinced. He announced that it was a suicide before they'd done an investigation. That's not law enforcement. That's by definition a cover up. So he covered up Epstein's murder and for whatever reason, and his dad got Epstein started in life. I I just don't even know what to make of those. Those are facts, and I don't know what to make of them.

The speaker is unsure why their supporters are interested in the Jeffrey Epstein story, as Epstein is dead and was never a big factor. The speaker believes the credible information has been given. They contrast the Epstein case with the "Mueller witch hunt" and the Steele dossier, which they claim was all fake. The speaker finds the Epstein case boring and doesn't understand why it continues to be discussed. They suggest that only "pretty bad people, including fake news" want to keep it going. They state that if there is any credible information, it should be released.

There's a massive difference between Donald Trump who banned Epstein from Mar A Lago when he found out about his disgusting hobbies and somebody like Bill Clinton who rode shotgun to Epstein's island doing who knows what with who knows who after getting out of office. One rejected the predator and the other partied with him. And that's what Gen is frustrated with. We want accountability. We want transparency. That's not what we had under the Biden administration. And that there is exactly why we voted for Trump. He's performed CPR on the American dream. This time last year on Abiodunatics, thankfully, we have a president who's going to start addressing that, and we need to see that soon before the midterm.

The speaker argues that it is time for the country to shift its focus to something else. He states that nothing has emerged about him personally beyond the claim that there was a conspiracy against him, specifying that the conspiracy was “literally, by Epstein and other people.” In his view, this is evidence that there should be a move away from discussions about him and toward other national concerns. He emphasizes that the country should perhaps “get onto something else,” suggesting that public attention should be redirected to topics that matter more to the national discourse. In the same vein, the speaker raises a question about justice, addressing the question directly to the president. He asks, “Why would you say people don’t they have gotten justice,” signaling skepticism or disagreement with a statement that justice has been fully served. He frames the issue as something that matters to the public, asserting that the notion of justice is a concern “something that people care about.” The exchange implies a belief that the public’s sense of justice remains unsettled or unaddressed, despite the narrative that there has been justice or resolution. Overall, the speaker presents two intertwined points: first, a call to move the national conversation away from personal allegations and toward other issues; second, a probe into whether justice has been delivered to the people, highlighting that this is an area of public interest and concern. He references a conspiracy linked to Epstein as a central personal grievance while urging a broader national focus, and he questions the completeness of justice as perceived by the audience, urging the president to comment on whether the public has received justice. The tone combines a push for agenda-shifting with a critique of the current state of justice as seen by the speaker and, by extension, some portion of the public.

Speaker 0 explains that Epstein’s legal problems began with police investigations into allegations that underage women were coming to Epstein’s house. Epstein allegedly believed that Trump was the first to inform the police about what was happening at Epstein’s house, and from that point they became bitter enemies. Speaker 1 asks if this is what Epstein is telling him. Speaker 0 confirms that this is the version he is relaying, as presented by “Oh, the hoax yesterday.” Speaker 2 clarifies that “the hoax” refers to Democrats using a narrative to attack him. He says Epstein has never said or suggested or implied that the hoax is real; he has talked to Epstein many times. He states that the whole thing comes across as a hoax, not that Epstein’s actions are a hoax. He explains that Epstein believes himself innocent, and that when he first heard the rumor, he kicked him out of Maribago. He adds that Epstein was an FBI informant trying to take this matter down. The president knows and has great sympathy for the women who have suffered harms; it’s detestable to him. He and the speaker have spoken as recently as twenty-four hours ago. What he is talking about, according to Speaker 2, are the Democrats who are pursuing this with impure motives. If they truly cared, he asks, why didn’t they act during the four years of the Biden administration when the Biden DOJ had all the records? They didn’t say a word about it, and now they pursue it for political purposes. Speaker 3 notes that our current president has had relationships with Epstein in the past, and mentions Katie Johnson and possibly other victims who have accused Trump of involvement in similar matters. In the speaker’s experience, Trump supporters will not listen to such claims. He admits the court of law isn’t present here. He asks if there is anything that can be said about the validity of those claims or whether more is known. Speaker 1 responds that he can say nothing at all. He states that the only thing he can say about President Trump is that in 2009, when he served subpoenas and gave notice to connected people that he wanted to talk to them, Trump was the only person who picked up the phone and said, “let’s just talk.” Trump offered as much time as needed, provided information that checked out, and helped him so they didn’t have to depose him. He adds that this occurred in 2009. Speaker 3 asks if there is any truth to James Patterson’s claims that Trump kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago. Speaker 1 confirms that he definitely heard that.

Speaker 0 says it's "preposterous that we were talking about Hillary Clinton's emails again in the year 2025," that "they get activated," and that Trump won't be blamed for not releasing the Epstein files, "We spent years on this story." Speaker 1 counters, "No. Let let me you you had to take this story seriously for years, and it was false. It wasn't false." He asserts that "When Trump won in 2016, the intel community concluded that Russia didn't have a hand in his victory," but "Obama determined and wanted a new conclusion," sending "Brennan" to "come up with a new collusion," and insists "There was no proof." They claim "They amplified a false conclusion that Trump colluded with Russia in 2016." He adds, "The Democrats never cared about Epstein until they saw a political motivation," while noting "the right is more on top of Epstein" and that "We actually cared," concluding with "Save me your selective outrage."

The president questions why his supporters are so interested in the Epstein story and says he doesn’t understand the interest or fascination. Epstein is dead a long time and was never a big factor in life, and he doesn’t understand why the Jeffrey Epstein case would be of interest to anybody. He states that credible information has been given, and mentions the Mueller witch hunt and the Steele dossier as fake, asserting that all that information was fake. He describes the Epstein case as pretty boring stuff, sorted but boring, and doesn’t understand why it keeps going. He adds that only pretty bad people, including fake news, want to keep something like that going, and that credible information should be let them have it.

The speaker doesn't understand why supporters are interested in the Jeffrey Epstein story, as Epstein has been dead for a long time and was never a big factor. The speaker believes credible information has been given and references the Mueller investigation and steel dossier as examples of fake information. The speaker finds the Epstein case boring and doesn't understand why it continues to be discussed, suggesting only bad people and fake news want to keep it going. The speaker states that if there is credible information, it should be released. The speaker is then asked a question about AI.

Transcript centers on truth and why Epstein files should be public. They note both parties avoid real reasons. Speaker 1 says the president views it as “all a trap” and that it “reminds him of Russiagate”—an attempt by Democrats to ensnare him in a fake scandal; “he's not... never did anything creepy,” the speaker says. The speaker argues transparency would have helped “the country” and “the administration,” giving it credibility. They speculate why disclosure is feared: “could it be that Trump was there and he just doesn't wanna jeopardize his presidency even putting it out there?” Epstein is described as “the center of New York society for... decades.” The claim: “I don't think having dinner at his house or even necessarily going to his island is proof of a crime.” Finally, they note “Epstein had contact with Israeli intelligence” and “British intelligence”—“probably scarier than Mossad and CIA.”

The speaker denies reports of hosting a gathering of top advisors to discuss the Epstein situation, calling it "completely fake news." He asserts the report is a "hoax" perpetrated by Democrats to divert attention from his administration's successful six months. He attributes the report to the Democrats and dismisses the situation as "total bullshit."