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In the exchange, Speaker 0 questions whether US citizens are being surveilled today and whether the photos and data of protesters are being collected and stored in some kind of database. The interlocutor, Speaker 1, repeatedly denies these possibilities. The dialogue centers on the idea of monitoring and database tracking of protesters or Americans. Speaker 0 begins by asking: “Are you surveilling US citizens today?” to which Speaker 1 responds: “No, sir.” The line of questioning then shifts to the handling of protesters: Speaker 0 asks whether “those people protesting,” who are exercising their First Amendment rights, have had photos taken and data collected and whether that information is being placed in any kind of database. Speaker 1 answers, “There is no database for protesters, sir.” This establishes the asserted position that protest-related data is not being accumulated in a dedicated database. The discussion then foregrounds a specific allegation from Maine: Speaker 0 references “one of your officers in Maine” who said to a person protesting, “we're gonna put your face in a little database.” The implied question is about the meaning and existence of such a “little database.” Speaker 1 reiterates: “No, sir.” He adds, “We don’t.” This underscores the claim that there is no database for Americans or protesters. Speaker 0 presses further by asking, “Then what do you think your ICE agent was doing to this individual when he said those statements?” In response, Speaker 1 acknowledges an inability to speak for the individual officer but reiterates the core assertion: “I can't speak for that individual, sir, but I can assure you there is no database that's tracking United States citizens.” He closes with a direct reaffirmation, “There is no database that's tracking United States citizens.” Throughout the exchange, the central claims remain consistent: there is no surveillance program targeting US citizens in the form of a database, and there is no database for protesters. The dialogue also highlights a contrast between specific statements attributed to an officer in Maine and the official denial of any such database, with Speaker 1 insisting that they cannot speak for the individual officer while maintaining that no tracking database exists for US citizens.

An individual, a citizen of El Salvador, was illegally in the U.S. and was returned to his country, which is standard deportation procedure. The foreign policy of the U.S. is conducted by the president, not by a court. The Supreme Court stated that no court has the authority to compel a foreign policy function in the U.S. The speaker claims that President Trump's policy is to expel foreign terrorists who are here illegally. The speaker asks why it isn't stated that keeping criminals out of the country is a positive thing, and accuses the previous speaker of lacking credibility.

The interviewer questioned the president about Kilmar Abrego Garcia, a Salvadoran man with a protective order who was mistakenly deported. The president stated that the lawyer who called it a mistake was not appointed by his administration. He described Garcia as an MS-13 gang member who abused his wife. The interviewer argued the issue was about the rule of law, as the Supreme Court ordered Garcia's return. The president claimed his lawyers disagreed with the decision. He stated he was elected to fix the open border situation created by an "incompetent man." The president insisted Garcia had MS-13 tattoos on his knuckles, while the interviewer claimed the photos were photoshopped and that the tattoos were not present in El Salvador. The president offered to show the interviewer the picture and accused him of being unfair and part of the reason people don't believe the news.

Speaker 0 asks about the danger to US communities from 13,000 people convicted of murder who crossed the border illegally. Speaker 1 responds that the numbers being reported are a false representation of the data. Speaker 1 states that total returns and removals in the past year have been higher than every year under the previous administration since 2010. Speaker 1 insists that data should be reported accurately to avoid confusing or lying to the American people, and that the misrepresentation has been fact-checked and debunked by multiple outlets.

Speaker 1 confirmed signing a memo but denied being the author of the family separation policy. Speaker 1 stated they gave Secretary Nielsen numerous recommendations on how to secure the border and save lives. Speaker 2 claimed that Speaker 1 recommended family separation as option three. Speaker 1 stated they recommended zero tolerance, the same as when any US citizen parent gets arrested with a child. Speaker 2 stated that legal asylees are not charged with any crime. Speaker 1 stated that being in the country illegally is a violation and that if one wants to seek asylum, they should do it the legal way at the port of entry. Speaker 1 referred to a congresswoman as the dumbest ever to listen to congress.

A person says they had a good time. A Republican congressman appears and says that now that they're in charge, they're rounding up illegals. He is told that a woman he is targeting was born in the US and is a citizen, but he says he doesn't care because she looks like one of them. He says she'll have lots of company when she's in prison in El Salvador.

Speaker 0 argues that the premise is disgusting and cites CBS admitting that sixty percent of those arrested had criminal charges or convictions, while noting the majority were non-violent. They question what “non-violent” includes, listing drug trafficking, child porn, fraud, DUI, and human smuggling, and mock the idea of those as harmless offenses. They accuse CBS of trying to influence public perception and claim, “What are you trying to do here? It’s like you want more people to die.” They proceed to highlight CBS’s claim that forty percent of ICE arrestees had no criminal past, arguing the distinction should be about status in The US. They counter with examples: an MS-13 member who shot, tortured, and murdered five people but “forget it, in El Salvador,” suggesting he’s nonviolent because he wasn’t convicted in the US. They compare this to other cases where alleged criminals killed in the US had no prior US criminal history, and to scammers running fake day cares who haven’t been prosecuted yet. The speaker contends that crimes committed outside The US do not count, and posits that we should owe Nicolas Maduro an apology. They note that this is coming from “the same media that lectures one death is too many, which is used to justify insane regulations in public health policies,” referencing the pandemic and the claim that “a single death is a tragedy,” contrasted with a later statement about a jogger being killed during lunch. They frame the report as an effort to stop deporting bad people by portraying the target as peaceful illegals and by saying they lied when they claimed to do “the worst first.” They argue that resisting the goal of deporting the worst first forced ICE to use a wider net that included all illegals. They claim that if Waltz or Fry had cooperated, the issue would never have arisen, and state that their goal was to prevent deporting criminals so ICE would be forced to sift through all illegals, which would be a political win for those who would say, “They’re not going after the worst after all.” The speaker concludes it’s moronic, not to protect people but to protect political power, and that this allows the narrative to say a murderous felon came here looking for a better life, when in fact, it was a better knife.

Speaker 0 asks if Democrats risk playing into the president's hands by focusing on the Kilmaro Burgo Garcia case. Speaker 1 responds that they don't know of any Democrat who defended Garcia. They claim Garcia was falsely arrested and removed from the country. They allege "they" are making up things about Garcia, such as associating him with MS 13 or claiming he coordinated the January 6 attack, even though he has never been prosecuted or convicted of any crime.

The speaker is "a %" sure that an individual is an MS-13 member and a domestic violence abuser. They say that in their community, they would screen him working with ICE, and hope ICE would start removal proceedings. The individual has been through removal proceedings before, but was still in the country. The speaker praises the Trump administration for removing a criminal and criticizes Senator Van Hollen for wanting to bring him back.

In the exchange, Speaker 0 recounts feedback from “real Chicagoans,” describing them as mostly Black and Brown, and claims they tell him that the other person does not seem to know the difference between illegal aliens and real Chicago citizens. He asserts that these individuals feel the other person is siding with illegal aliens over their communities. He then pivots to a direct line of questioning. The real question, as Speaker 0 presents it, concerns a violent incident: “An illegal alien from Nicaragua grabbed a woman on the North Side, bashed her head into the sidewalk, knocked her unconscious, and raped her.” He presses for a direct response about what would have happened “if that had been your wife, Stacy.” He stages the hypothetical to elicit a clear stance from Speaker 1 on how to respond to such a crime and its immigration context. Speaker 1, however, interrupts to steer the conversation away from the loaded scenario. He repeatedly signals a move on, indicating a preference not to engage with the hypothetical or to answer the pointed ethical dilemma on the spot. The back-and-forth centers on the tactic of addressing the question versus avoiding it, with Speaker 0 insisting on a straightforward answer “as a man, not as mayor, but as a man.” The exchange escalates as Speaker 0 urges Speaker 1 to provide a simple yes or no and to address the issue directly, effectively challenging Speaker 1 to commit to a position regarding ICE and deportation in light of the described crime. Speaker 1 responds by again stating to move on, resisting the direct yes/no framework. Throughout, Speaker 0 persists in pressing for a candid, personal response to the hypothetical crime and its immigration implications, while Speaker 1 maintains a boundary about continuing the discussion in that moment. Ultimately, Speaker 1 declines to answer the specific deportation question in the moment, and Speaker 0 reaffirms the demand for a direct personal answer. The segment ends with Speaker 1 thanking the audience and moving on, leaving the explicit yes-or-no question unresolved in this exchange.

Democrats and the media have portrayed deported individuals as innocent, such as a supposed father of three who was actually an MS-13 gang member. An immigration judge determined in 2019 that this person had no right to be in the U.S., also noting traffic violations and missed court dates. The speaker asserts that the individual was an illegal alien who broke laws to enter the country, and that even left-wing media didn't criticize the deportation itself, only the reasoning behind it. The speaker states that the administration does not seek permission from Democrats to deport illegal immigrants. The speaker questions why Democrats are supposedly angrier about deporting violent gang members than they are about the victims of those gang members, suggesting they have lost touch with reality.

The speaker claims they are removing criminals from the country by law. The speaker asserts a man they picked out had an MS-13 tattoo on his knuckles. Terry disputes this, saying the picture was Photoshopped. The speaker insists the man had MS-13 tattooed clearly on his knuckles, not just interpreted that way. Terry says the tattoos weren't there when the man was in El Salvador, but they are in the picture. The speaker tells Terry to just admit the man has the tattoo and move on.

Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1 and the mainstream media of covering for a "vicious gang" that has taken the lives of American women. Speaker 1 claims individuals can be classified based on tattoos and streetwear, leading to deportation to El Salvador. Speaker 0 refutes this, stating the Department of Homeland Security and its agents use a "litany of criteria" to ensure individuals qualify as "foreign terrorists" for deportation. Speaker 0 asserts the president authorized a mass deportation campaign targeting "illegal criminal aliens" and defends the credibility of agents risking their lives, while Speaker 1 questions their credibility. Speaker 0 repeats the accusation of covering for a "vicious gang."

Speaker says Mexico is conducting mass deportations of people who stayed illegally to 'manage a country,' insisting this is not about hating people but enforcing laws. They note signs saying 'no human is illegal,' but insist 'once you enter the wrong way, you're breaking the law.' They compare Mexico to the US, claiming Mexico 'start beating you up and then they question you later,' and 'In Mexico, they are doing mass deportations and are using force. Nothing like you see here in The US.' They state, 'Crossing the border illegally, that's a crime,' while adding, 'you don't see it that way, but I do.' They add a Japan analogy: 'Go to Japan and try to do it illegally and guarantee you, you're gonna You don't live in Japan. That's not a crime. You're not breaking the law. I mean, you are breaking the law, but it's not a criminal act.'

President Trump campaigned on securing the homeland and deporting violent alien criminals. Senator Chris Van Hollen allegedly flew to El Salvador to demand the release of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, labeled by Democrats and the media as a "Maryland father." Kilmar Abrego Garcia is an illegal alien, MS-13 gang member, and foreign terrorist who was deported. When arrested, he wore a sweatshirt with money covering the faces of presidents, an MS-13 symbol. He was arrested with other MS-13 members, and two judges found him to be a member. Court documents revealed his wife sought protection orders against him for domestic violence in May 2021, including assault. The speaker states that Garcia was illegally in the U.S. with a lawful deportation order. The speaker claims that Garcia will never be a Maryland father or live in the U.S. again. The Supreme Court ruled that the president and secretary of state cannot be compelled to retrieve Garcia from a maximum-security prison in El Salvador.

Speaker 0 demands the return of Kilmar Abrego Garcia to El Salvador, stating that President Bukele must return him if he believes in democracy, and that his detainment abroad is criminal. Speaker 1 states that Abrego Garcia was arrested with two MS-13 gang members. Two judges found Abrego Garcia to be a member of MS-13, a finding that has never been disputed. Maryland court documents revealed that Abrego Garcia's wife petitioned for an order of protection against him for two instances of domestic violence in May 2021. Speaker 1 claims Democrats are rushing to defend an illegal criminal foreign terrorist gang member, and an apparent woman.

The speakers disagree about whether a person had an "MS-13" tattoo on his knuckles. Speaker 0 claims the person had "MS-13" tattooed on his knuckles, showing a picture as evidence. Speaker 1 says the tattoos were interpreted that way, but they were photoshopped and were not present in El Salvador. Speaker 0 insists the tattoo was clear and not open to interpretation, and that this is why people no longer believe the news. Speaker 1 wants to move on to Ukraine. Speaker 0 asks why Speaker 1 can't just admit the tattoo exists. Speaker 1 says they will take a look at it.

Speaker 0 opened by saying that over the last week he has interacted with over 300,000 plus real Chicagoans who say it is hate speech to evoke the Civil War or the Confederacy, to say that law enforcement is a sickness, while the other person has over 150 sworn CPD officers on his detail. He asked what the other person would say to those people and whether he would ask his 150 sworn officers to stand down if he and his wife Stacy are ever attacked, shot at, or rammed with a protester’s vehicle. Speaker 1 responded with sarcasm about the large number, joking that the interactions had “gone down to 300,000,” and claimed he had checked the other person’s comments. He asserted that the addiction on jails and incarceration and the addiction of militarism is evil, referencing Doctor King, and said it is incumbent to ensure that “the real Chicagoans” or the real people of America receive attention, suggesting we should spend billions of dollars overseas on the people in Chicago instead. Speaker 0 pushed back, saying that the real Chicagoans he talks to, mostly Black and Brown, feel that the other person does not distinguish between illegal aliens and real Chicago citizens, and that he is siding with illegal aliens over communities. He asserted that a recent incident involved “an illegal alien from Nicaragua” who grabbed a woman on the North Side, bashed her head into the sidewalk, knocked her unconscious, and raped her. He asked whether, if that had been the other person’s wife, Stacy, he would want ICE to deport that illegal alien, and asked for a yes or no answer. Speaker 1 pressed to get a direct answer, asking for a response “as a man, not as mayor,” and repeated the question about whether ICE should deport the rapist. Speaker 0 reiterated his question and stated that the answer for real Chicagoans is the deportation of the rapist, and that was the “answer for real Chicagoans.” Speaker 1 then apologized for being late, blaming traffic, and the other person quipped about the traffic, noting, “You’re not blaming me for the traffic, are you?” and said he had been watching.

The speaker is convinced "a thousand percent" that an individual is an MS-13 member and a domestic violence abuser. They assert that this person has been through removal proceedings before, but was still present in the country. The speaker praises the Trump administration for removing a criminal and criticizes Senator Van Hollen for wanting to bring him back.

An administration official stated that El Salvador is responsible for Abrego Garcia, but El Salvador's President said they will not do anything with him. The question is, who is responsible for this man and where will he end up? The official responded that President Bukele said he will not smuggle a foreign terrorist back into the U.S. Abrego Garcia is an MS-13 gang member who engaged in human trafficking and illegally entered the country. Deporting him to El Salvador was always the plan. He will not live peacefully in the U.S. because he is a foreign terrorist and MS-13 gang member. President Bukele confirmed this. He will face consequences in El Salvador for his gang affiliation and human trafficking. The official expressed dismay at the media's focus on this alleged human trafficker and MS-13 gang member.

Speaker 0 tells Speaker 1 she will be taken too because she has brown skin. Speaker 1 calls this racist, stating she is an American citizen. Speaker 0 says it doesn't matter, and Speaker 1 accuses her of saying she will be deported because she is brown. Speaker 1 says she voted for Donald Trump, who she met and is very nice, and that Speaker 0 is racist. Speaker 0 says Speaker 1 is supporting mass deportation. Speaker 1 says she supports mass deportation of people who are not American citizens. Speaker 0 says she is Catholic. Speaker 1 says American citizens are not going to get deported. Speaker 0 says potentially, citing Raz Baraka's arrest, claiming he was targeted by ICE. Speaker 1 says he was charged with trespassing. Speaker 1 calls Speaker 0 a whole ass adult calling people Nazis in 2025. Speaker 0 says this is Nazi behavior. Speaker 1 asks if Speaker 0 thinks it was racist to tell her she was going to get deported because she's brown. Speaker 0 says she doesn't know that happened.

The speaker states that Senator Van Halen mistakenly believes an MS-13 terrorist is his constituent, when in fact, the individual is President Bukele's constituent, citizen, and resident. The speaker emphasizes the individual is not from Maryland, but an illegal alien from El Salvador with a deportation order, who is only in the U.S. due to the Democrats' veneration of due process for illegal invaders. The speaker asserts that it is legally impermissible for him to remain in the country and that they honored the law by removing him. The speaker suggests that if the Democratic party demands the return of illegal gang members and terrorists, their support will dwindle until only MS-13 members remain as their base.

The speaker discusses the deportation of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, a Maryland father, to El Salvador because he had tattoos. The speaker claims the Trump administration acknowledges the deportation was a mistake, but they are not working to bring him home. The Supreme Court said the Trump administration must facilitate but cannot effectuate his return. The speaker believes the administration is trying to make people forget about the situation, claiming they are giving no proof of life. The speaker questions what is stopping the administration from disappearing someone else in the future. The speaker anticipates some people on the right will call it liberal hysteria, but the speaker insists that Kilmar Abrego Garcia is a real human and father. The speaker expresses horror and disgust, advocating for empathy to make the country something worth aspiring towards.

Speaker 0 states Speaker 1 is wanted in multiple states and every country with laws due to fake addresses, accusing them of being thieves, criminals, and liars. Speaker 0 claims Speaker 1 is not who they say they are and accuses them of stealing children. Speaker 1 asks why they are being stamped with addresses and questions if due diligence has been done. They state there is no law requiring 15 days of residency and mention Pedro Rodriguez's wife saying they were not a shelter. They express distrust, stating NGOs protect each other and the federal government is involved, calling it dangerous. Speaker 1 describes following the journey of immigrants and children, stating they are in a cartel tunnel. They say some things must be lived, not read. Speaker 1 concludes that nobody is present to stop what is happening.