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Speaker 0 argues that there are self-hating anti‑Zionist, anti‑Israel Jews in New York, including friends and family, who will vote for Mamdani, whom he calls a vicious anti‑Semite. He says Mamdani would never recognize Israel as a Jewish state or the nation state of the Jewish people, but recognizes Jordan, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia as Muslim states with hierarchies that exclude certain groups; for example, in Saudi Arabia you can’t become a citizen unless you convert, and in Qatar you can’t own a Christian or Jewish Bible. He asserts a double standard and calls that the core of antisemitism. He claims Zorn Mandami is a vicious antisemite and contends that if he is elected mayor of New York, antisemitism will spread to other democratic cities. After six years as a Democrat, he says he formally quit the Democratic Party and is now an anti‑Democrat who will work hard to see the defeat of the Democratic Party, which he describes as anti‑Israel, anti‑Zionist in many respects. Speaker 1 asks what he thinks about Jews and Israelis who voted for Mamdani and what they tell him when they ask why. Speaker 0 replies that there are Jewish rabbis and former rabbis who support Mamdani, calling them self‑hating Jews. He says some Jews have supported Hitler, Stalin, and Mussolini, and that being Jewish does not make one immune to political folly. He contends these are people who are Jewish on their parents’ side, who have “never entered a synagogue, never been to Israel, know nothing about Judaism,” yet claim, “as a Jew, I support Hamas. I support Mamdani. I support terrorism. I support all that.” He asserts that because the Democratic Party has turned anti‑Israel, they must be fought, though he says it is hard to be opposed to the Democrats after six years as a Democrat; he cannot vote for a party that is anti‑Zionist, anti‑Israel, and anti‑Semitic, and that encourages leaders like Mamdani, and he suggests that news now will leave the Democratic party. Speaker 1 asks if, if Mamdani and professor Dostoevitz win in York, he would advise Jews in the city to leave. Speaker 0 answers: No. Fight back. He pledges to lead the fight against Mamdani, to bring him to court and to apply legal, political, economic, and other pressures to prevent his success in anti‑Zionism, anti‑Israel, and anti‑Semitic attitudes. He concludes: we must continue to fight him, but do not leave—stay and fight.

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The speaker responds to accusations of oppressing Jews, saying that in Belarus half of the government are Jews and asks, “Where we oppressed anyone?”

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The speaker questions the understanding of those who chant "free Palestine," explaining that it actually means the end of Israel's existence. They argue that Israel is the only Jewish state and that Jews and Arabs live there peacefully. They express concern about what would happen if Hamas took control of Israel and criticize the support for Hamas despite their oppressive actions. The speaker also highlights the assistance Israel provides to Gaza and questions why Hamas does not provide basic necessities. They argue that supporting Israel is the path to peace. Another speaker shares their experiences in Israel, including the security measures and restrictions faced by Israelis. They express doubt in the two-state solution and believe that Israeli control is necessary for the region's stability. Another speaker discusses the aid provided to Palestine by the US and challenges the notion that all aid goes to Israel. They highlight the significant amount of assistance given to Palestine and the recent announcement of additional humanitarian aid.

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The speaker examines the claim of ethnic cleansing by Israel against Palestinians by presenting population statistics. They highlight the significant decrease in Jewish populations in various Arab countries since 1948, while the Arab population in Israel has increased. The Jewish population in Morocco, Algeria, Indonesia, Libya, Egypt, Yemen, Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon has drastically declined, while the Arab population in Israel has grown to over 2 million. The speaker questions who is actually engaging in ethnic cleansing based on these statistics.

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DNA tests are allegedly prohibited in Israel because they would reveal that virtually no Ashkenazi Jews are Semitic or have ancestral connection to Palestine. The speaker claims to have met Chinese, Vietnamese, and African Jews, none of whom are native to Palestine. The speaker states that some Ashkenazi Jews are entirely European in their DNA. The speaker recounts being assaulted by a BBC manager who had recently converted to Judaism. The speaker believes that converting to Judaism does not give someone the right to displace Palestinians.

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Israel is described as a racist country founded on the expulsion and massacre of Arabs. Videos and polls reveal widespread racism and discrimination against Arabs in Israeli society. These views are also reflected in government laws and policies that restrict marriage, deny rights, and promote segregation. Politicians who advocate for the genocide of Palestinians hold high positions in government. Israel portrays itself as a victim, but its actions, such as cutting off essential services to Gaza, suggest a goal of genocide.

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Lie number one, Israel is the only Jewish state in the world. False. Israel is the second. The Jewish Autonomous Oblast is the first. Founded in 1934, it predates Israel and is located in Russia's Far Eastern Federal District. At 14,000 square miles, it's 75% bigger than Israel and bordered by China, North Korea, and Russia. Relocating there would prevent the endless problems that the world currently faces because of Israeli expansionism. Honestly, it would be better for everyone if they did. Lie number two, Jews had nowhere to flee during Nazi Germany. False. The Havara agreement reached in 1933 between Nazi Germany and Zionist organizations, primarily the Jewish Agency for Palestine, allowed German Jews to migrate to Palestine by transferring their assets to Germany, then reclaiming them in form of German exported goods. This allowed Jews to keep some of their wealth and the Zionist movement to increase Jewish immigration to Palestine, which is what they wanted. Over 60,000 German Jews immigrated to Palestine under this agreement between 1933 and 1939. Lie number three, Palestinians never wanted Jews in Palestine. False. As tens of thousands of Jews migrated to Palestine during the Havarah agreement and World War two, Palestinians welcomed them even into their own homes. The Jews were housed, clothed, fed, and given refuge. Then one day, those same Jewish families that they'd cared for locked the Palestinian families out of their homes and backed by the military, threatened their lives if they returned. I'm not making this stuff up you guys. It's everywhere. You just have to be willing to see it.

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A Jewish speaker opposes Zionism, stating that it is not anti-Semitism to be against it. They share personal experiences of facing backlash for their beliefs. They explain that Zionism is a movement that started 150 years ago by Jews who were not practicing their religion and wanted a homeland. However, Judaism forbids having their own state. They highlight the historical support and acceptance Jews received from Muslim countries. The speaker criticizes the Zionist movement for disregarding the rights of Palestinians and accuses them of using PR tactics and political pressure to silence opposition. They emphasize their belief in coexistence with Muslims and express empathy for Palestinian suffering.

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The speaker emphasizes that they are not affiliated with politics and states that Israel serves as a model for the region due to its democracy, human rights, and coexistence among different groups. They highlight the rights of Arab citizens in Israel and the freedom of worship for Muslims in Jerusalem. The speaker questions the lack of synagogues and the plight of Jewish refugees in Arab countries. In response to a question, they explain that their mindset changed through observation and firsthand experience, revealing the corruption and disregard for the Palestinian people by their own leadership. They criticize the Palestinian leadership's desire for conflict and their exploitation of civilian suffering for financial gain. The speaker suggests that investing in the Palestinian people directly would be more beneficial than supporting the current leadership.

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For 5000 years, Jewish people faced persecution, mainly from white European Christians. Palestinians didn't contribute to atrocities like Auschwitz or turning away Jewish refugees. The real enemy is white Christian Europeans, not Palestinians. The question remains: why are 2 million Palestinians in an open-air prison?

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The speaker argues that the indigeneity of Palestinians to the land of Palestine does not entitle them to their own country within Israel. They claim almost every country was conquered, citing Canada and Australia as examples where indigenous populations like the Inuits and Aboriginals are not allowed to create their own countries. The speaker states that in 1948, Jews won a war against Arabs and Palestinians on the land, and therefore, it is now their country. They assert that no other country is expected to separate and give land to indigenous people. The speaker believes that demanding this of Israel is a result of Jew hatred, as such demands are not made of countries like the US, Mexico, Canada, or Australia.

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Israel has a right to exist and defend itself, but Palestinians are often ignored. Palestinians are treated as third-class citizens and face apartheid-like conditions. The Israeli government evicts Palestinians from their land, which is then used for Israeli settlements. Palestinians have limited control over their lives, with restrictions on building permits, water supply, solar energy, medical treatment, electricity, fishing, and transportation. The US government supports Israel and considers Hamas, the governing party in Gaza, a terrorist organization. Palestinians have chosen Hamas due to their frustration with Israeli oppression. Israel and the US need to adopt new approaches towards Palestinians. The Palestinian people face apartheid, deprivation, and civil rights violations. This information is readily available, but one must actively seek it out.

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Iran does not recognize Israel's right to exist. The speaker believes Palestinians have a right to return to their homelands and equal rights. They argue against the existence of Israel as a Jewish country, stating that separatist states do not work. The conversation also touches on the identification of countries as Christian or Muslim, contrasting them with the world's only Jewish country, which the speaker questions.

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Israel is often accused of being an apartheid state and committing ethnic genocide, but this doesn't align with the reality. Around 25% of the Israeli population is Arab, with over 20% being Muslims. As an Arab Muslim myself, I can attest that we have equal rights, including access to welfare, education, and healthcare. Israel made education mandatory for all children, ensuring that even girls receive an education. Without Israel, I would likely be illiterate and impoverished. I have an electrical engineering degree and a master's from a central university. It's important to read the facts before making such claims, especially when they come from intelligent students at elite universities.

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The speaker questions the Arab states about the disappearance of Jews in their countries. They mention the significant Jewish populations that used to exist in Algeria, Egypt, Syria, and Iraq. They criticize the UN Commission on the Middle East for excluding Israel and question the focus on singling out the Jewish state. The speaker repeatedly asks where the real apartheid is and why the meeting only targets Israel.

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Speaker 0 asks for comments on Israel, and someone responds by saying that Israel should leave Palestine. Another person points out that the people in Palestine are occupied and it is their land. The question is raised about where they should go, and someone suggests they go back to Poland and Germany. Another person adds that they should go back to America and other places as well.

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I'm an Israeli patriot who cares about Israel, but I believe there is no symmetry or conflict between Israelis and Palestinians. Instead, there is a brutal Israeli occupation that must end. The regime in our backyard is one of the most cruel and brutal tyrannies on Earth, resembling apartheid. In the occupied territories, one group has all the rights while the other has none. Visit the Jordan Valley to witness the stark contrast between prosperous Israeli settlements and the Palestinians living without basic necessities or rights. It's clear that this is apartheid, and no one can deny it.

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This debate concerns racism and a double standard regarding Jews. Anti-Zionism equates to being against Jews. Smeti Hassan is accused of lying about Zionism to cover his antisemitism. Anti-Zionists rely on modern blood libels. Israel's existence is a decolonization success story after Arab imperialism, Islamic conquest, and British colonialism. In 1948, 700,000 Arabs escaped fighting during an attack by Arab armies, while those who remained became Israeli citizens; the Arab population has since increased tenfold. Ethnic cleansing occurred against Jews expelled from Arab countries. Arabs in Israel, 20% of the population, are free and represented in Israeli society. Claims of apartheid conflate Arab citizens of Israel with Arabs under the Palestinian Authority. Accusations of genocide against Jews invert reality. October 7th was the latest in a history of genocidal acts by Arabs against Jews. Hamas embeds terror infrastructure in civilian areas, using civilians as human shields. The IDF takes measures to prevent civilian casualties. The aim of Hamas is to survive by pressuring Jews to cease self-defense. Voting for the opposition supports Hamas' anti-Zionist aim.

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The speaker, an Arab citizen of Israel, challenges the claims of apartheid and ethnic genocide in Israel. They point out that 25% of the Israeli population is Arab, with over 20% being Muslims. They emphasize that Arab citizens have equal rights, including welfare, education, and healthcare. The speaker shares their personal story of being born into a Bedouin family, where women were not allowed to go to school. However, after Israel's founding, education became mandatory for all children, including girls. The speaker highlights their own achievements, holding an electrical engineering degree and a master's from Stanford University. They argue that Israel has provided them with opportunities and that claims of apartheid and genocide do not align with the reality. The speaker urges people to seek out the facts before making such claims.

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Speaker 0: Before the emergence of the state of Israel in 1948, there was a large number of Jews living in the Arab world, something like 800,000. There were Jews in Lebanon, in Syria, in Egypt, and Iraq. The Jewish community in Iraq was the most ancient, going back two and a half millennia, and it was the most prosperous, the most successful, and the best integrated into local society. But before '48, there were Jews throughout the Arab world, and Muslim Jewish coexistence was not a distant dream. It was everyday reality. The Jews and Arabs lived side by side until the arrival of Zionism. My family and I, we were Arab Jews. We spoke Arabic at home. We didn't speak any other language. Our culture was Arab culture. Our food was the most delicious, spicy Middle Eastern food. It wasn't European food. So in every sense of the word, we were Arab Jews. We Arab Jews had much more in common linguistically and culturally with non Jews around us than with Jews in Eastern Europe. In March 1950, the Iraqi parliament passed a law which said, any Jew who wants to leave the country is free to do so. They have a year to register to leave on a one way visa, and not many Jews registered to leave. And in the next year, five bombs exploded in Jewish premises in Baghdad, and that created a panic and that helped to precipitate the exodus to Israel. Yosef Basri, 28 year old lawyer and an ardent Zionist, and he was responsible for three out of the five bombs. The controller of Basri was an Israeli intelligence officer called Max Bennett. He gave him the orders. He gave him the TNT. In 1950, there were a 135,000 Jews in Iraq. By the end of 1952, there were only about 10,000 Jews left in Iraq, and a 125,000 Jews ended up in Israel. We left Iraq as Jews, and we arrived in Israel as Iraqis. But problem is that Israel claims to be the state of the Jews. Israel claims to speak on behalf of all Jews everywhere. Zionism is an Ashkenazi thing. It's nothing to do with...

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The speaker criticizes Israel for the treatment of Palestinians, comparing it to apartheid in South Africa. They argue that Israel is motivated by a desire to acquire Palestinian land and exclude Palestinians from their own property. They highlight the lack of awareness and debate on this issue in the United States. The second speaker agrees and wishes for more open discussion. They ask about the responsibility of both Israelis and Palestinians in the conflict. The first speaker blames the conflict on Israel's occupation of Palestinian land, which violates international resolutions and commitments. They acknowledge acts of violence by Palestinians but do not excuse them.

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The speaker questions why Mr. Abbas celebrates a report by Richard Falk, who was previously accused by the Palestinian mission of being biased towards Hamas. They argue that the accusation of apartheid against Israel is absurd, highlighting that Israel's 1.5 million Arabs have full voting and election rights, work in various professions, and serve on the Supreme Court. The speaker then asks Arab states how many Jews live in their countries, pointing out the decline of Jewish populations in the Middle East. They question the absence of Israel in the UN commission on the Middle East and criticize the singling out of the Jewish State on the agenda. The speaker repeatedly asks where the real apartheid is.

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The speaker asserts that the leaders of the Zionist government and air force should be tried at the International Court for war crimes against innocent people. They claim Palestinian groups have no animosity towards Jews, citing a history of tolerance and coexistence. As evidence, the speaker notes that Jews fleeing Spain found refuge in Muslim countries like Turkey, Algeria, Tunisia, and Morocco. They highlight Albania during World War II, where Muslims protected Jews from the Nazis, hiding them in mosques and other places. The speaker expresses hope for future peaceful coexistence between Muslims and Jews, similar to their historical harmony in places like Turkey, Algeria, Morocco, and Iran.

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The speaker questions the concept of the "right to return," arguing that historically, nations have always pillaged other countries without restitution. They claim Rhodesia and the Empire were taken and not given back. They believe singling out Israel as a pariah state is unfair, stating what Israel has was given, not taken. The speaker criticizes the United Nations as corrupt and compares its usefulness to the Eurovision Song Contest. They highlight the disproportionate number of resolutions against Israel compared to other nations like Syria, China, and Russia, even on issues like women's rights, while ignoring countries with oppressive practices. They suggest this situation is absurd and ripe for satire.

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The Jewish people have been attached to the land of Israel for 3,500 years. The loss of their land occurred during the Arab conquest in the 7th century when Arabs took over the land and made the Jews a minority. Despite being dispossessed and scattered, the Jews never gave up their dream of returning to their ancestral homeland. In the 19th century, they started coming back and building farms and factories. The conflict with the Palestinians arises from their refusal to accept a Jewish state, claiming it as their own. The speaker argues that while Palestinians can live alongside Jews, they cannot demand the dissolution of the Jewish state.
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