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The Department of Defense recently approved the use of lethal force against civilians by military and local law enforcement. According to the speaker, a DOD directive was edited in September, with the Secretary of Defense approving assistance that has the potential for lethality. This includes any situation where providing assistance may involve the use of force likely to result in death or serious bodily injury. It also encompasses all support to civilian law enforcement officials in situations where a confrontation between civilian law enforcement and civilian individuals or groups is reasonably anticipated. The speaker states that this is what they have been trying to warn people about.

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Chemical munitions were deployed, and flashbangs were used against the speakers. There was a request for assistance near an ice cream tower. The speaker, who has custody of 44,000 hours of videos, witnessed acts of violence against police officers that were brutal and ugly. The officers did what they had to do. However, another speaker claims that if the police hadn't used concussion grenades and pepper spray, the incident wouldn't have occurred. They argue that it was a peaceful protest and deny any aggression towards the officers. The situation escalated when the police started firing without provocation.

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I have given warnings about chemical munitions. I need the left and lethal team positioned above me to start deploying. Launch. Launch. Launch. They're deploying flashbangs on us. As one who was here and who has custody of these forty four thousand hours of videos, I can attest there were acts of violence. There were acts of terrible violence that day. It was brutal, and it was ugly. If they'd never thrown the concussion grenades, if they'd never used the pepper spray, this wouldn't have happened. It was a peaceful protest. I was standing within 15 feet of the line of officers. They started firing at us before anybody did anything to them. There was no advance on them. They just started throwing concussion grenades and pepper spray. They've been tear gassing us.

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Speaker 0 urged Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy. "We're gonna walk down to the capital." A crowd appears near the Capitol as video shows "a wall of people" approaching. Deputy Chief Waldo orders the less lethal team to launch. DC law on crowd dispersal requires "three clearly audible and understandable orders to disperse" and to "provide participants reasonable and adequate time to disperse and a clear safe route for dispersal." Officer Thao crosses the line and engages demonstrators, discharging two rounds from his taser, "also known as an ECD," then says "start shooting what they have into the crowd." The less lethal team fires again; explosives rounds and CS gas rounds are deployed. At 02:18PM, an officer says, "Nothing's gonna help."

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The speaker argues that the Second Amendment is a right, not a privilege, but with restrictions that include having an ID and a permit on hand. He notes that current reports claim Alex Pretty did not have either on, implying he was not carrying legally. Beyond legality, the speaker emphasizes a responsibility to carry a firearm with foresight and understanding of the situation, recommending that someone who carries take a training class for their state, and even suggesting taxpayers fund it if possible because it’s a right. Regarding the shooting incident, the speaker states that only one person could have absolutely prevented Alex Pretty from being shot that day: Alex Pretty himself. He asserts he does not think the shooting was necessary to save a life, but he watched the incident from behind Pretty and not as an arresting officer or as the person who might have fired. He questions why Pretty had 10 rounds, arguing that if someone is shot, the shooter should have aimed to kill because they are trying to kill you; he attributes this to police training and the reasonableness doctrine. The speaker references the Supreme Court’s reasonableness doctrine, explaining that a police officer may protect themselves when someone has resisted arrest, disobeyed orders, and shown the means to harm. He concedes Pretty should not have been shot, noting there were ten minutes prior to the event with alternative actions that could have been taken, but he did not see those ten minutes. He describes Pretty as a protester versus an agitator, noting Pretty arrived with a cell phone and stood in the middle of a street during an operation, which the speaker labels as common sense. He asserts that carrying a weapon and entering the middle of a police operation is lawful, but suggests another prevention: a police cordon by the Minneapolis Police Department to prevent people like Pretty from entering the middle of the operation, instead of standing 100 feet away with a sign. The speaker acknowledges potential liability for any federal agent who acted prematurely or shot when they shouldn’t have, but reiterates that Pretty had no business where he was at that moment and did resist arrest. He states that in Minnesota, a carry permit is revoked at the moment of resisting arrest. Finally, the speaker blames politicians for letting the event happen, naming Donald Trump and Tim Walz as figures discussed. He calls for Border Patrol agents to secure the border and for the Minneapolis Police Department to be present to manage crowds. He mentions Jose Huerta Chuma, describing a violent rap sheet including domestic assault, and argues that sympathy for someone who is willing to risk the safety of others should diminish. He emphasizes a desire for no one to get hurt and urges people to use common sense, especially when carrying a weapon.

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I witnessed unprecedented violence against police officers through the media. It was brutal and ugly, but our officers responded as necessary. However, a protester claims that the violence could have been avoided if the police hadn't used concussion grenades and pepper spray. According to the protester, the protest was peaceful, and the officers started firing without any provocation. Tear gas was also used, causing distress and difficulty breathing for the protester.

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The discussion centers on a legal review underway at the Department of the Navy regarding Senator Kelly’s conduct and the related public commentary by press secretary Kingsley Wilson, which labeled the senator’s actions traitorous and seditious. The speakers emphasize that any assessment must go beyond the video itself and consider the totality of the circumstances and the legal framework. Speaker 1 argues that the video misstates the law. Under the UCMJ, orders are presumed lawful, and service members have an obligation to disobey only manifestly unlawful orders. The phrase “we’re just saying what the UCMJ says” is problematic because it does not define what constitutes a manifestly unlawful order. The speaker notes that the video’s rhetoric includes claims that National Guard deployments and Venezuela strikes are unlawful, which creates a debate about legality but does not automatically render such orders unlawful. Using the National Guard example, if a soldier is ordered to deploy to Chicago, some politicians may deem it unlawful while others do not. The order is presumed lawful under the ACMJ (likely a reference to a military acronym), and the soldier is obligated to follow it. If the soldier refuses, they face court martial. However, if the soldier is out on patrol and the platoon commander orders, for example, to shoot a protester in the head, that would be a manifestly unlawful order, universally recognized as unlawful. The concern is that the video lowers the standard for disobeying orders by leaving interpretation open and then supplying a normative frame via additional rhetoric. Speaker 1 says the review will consider the totality of the circumstances and the feasibility of options, including the implications of recalling a sitting senator to active duty. There are significant separation-of-powers issues: under the Constitution, one cannot hold office in two branches simultaneously, so if a sitting senator were recalled to active duty, they would have to resign from Congress or from the military. In that scenario, military precedence would prevail, forcing a resignation from Congress or the Senate. The Navy’s leadership, including General Bly (the Judge Advocate General of the Navy), is anticipated to be deeply involved in evaluating these factors. Speaker 0 notes a potential immunity angle, suggesting that if the same conduct occurred to someone without protection but under recall and military justice, the analysis might differ. Speaker 1 adds that pursuing this route in district court could yield an order declaring members of Congress immune from certain prosecutions or actions. Overall, the discussion highlights the legal tests for unlawful orders, the potential implications of recalling a senator, separation-of-powers considerations, and possible immunity issues that could arise in litigation.

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Police officers on the west side were arguing near a fountain, with one officer admitting that they were hurting innocent people and making 10 others angry for every one they removed. This suggests that both the officers and the protesters were set up for failure. There is a video of officers saying they were set up, and they repeat this multiple times. The response from the authorities came two hours later.

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Speaker 0 describes a crowd-disruption scene at a gate. "Hello. The officials have cleared out the front of the gate, which is over there, and they've pushed everybody down the road for good ways." "Multiple different kinds of munitions were used, especially the tear gas." The account notes that officials cleared the front of the gate and pushed people down the road, and that various munitions were deployed, with tear gas singled out. The summary centers on displacement of people and the use of munition types, particularly tear gas.

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In June, federal police used tear gas to clear Lafayette Square for President Trump's photo op, violating a court-ordered settlement requiring clear warnings before such actions. Peaceful protesters were present when police advanced shortly before a curfew, but the warnings given were hard to hear. The acting chief of park police claimed three warnings were issued using a long-range acoustic device, but a whistleblower from the DC National Guard testified that the warnings were barely audible and not from that device. The lawyer representing the original lawsuit believes the settlement terms were violated and plans to file a new lawsuit. In other news, two Girl Scout cookie flavors, Toast Yay's and Girl Scout S'mores, will be discontinued, while sales continue to support local troops. Meanwhile, Los Angeles faces high wildfire risks, with devastating impacts already seen in neighborhoods like Altadena.

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Speaker 0 argues that what was described is that he went there to try to stop the law enforcement operation, and that all the video shows him doing is documenting it with his cell phone, which is lawful. The only time he appeared to interact with law enforcement was when they went after him as he was trying to help an individual who law enforcement pushed down. Speaker 0 asks where the evidence is to show that he was trying to impede the operation, noting that he was filming, which he says is legal in the United States of America. Speaker 1 responds that Dana was there in the scene and was actively impeding and assaulting law enforcement to the point, but adds that this is not illegal. Speaker 0 counters that Dana wasn’t impeding it; he was filming, which is legal. Speaker 1 asks not to freeze-frame adjudicate the moment and insists that Dana was there for a reason, and that reason was to impede law enforcement. Speaker 1 further argues that de-escalation techniques were utilized during this action, including physically trying to remove those from the law enforcement scene and the use of pepper spray, which is described as another de-escalation technique. He states that those techniques did not work.

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Today, significant progress was made in safely removing the unlawful protest from the streets. Throughout the operation, protesters were clearly informed that they must leave the area and were advised of enforcement efforts to allow them to make informed decisions. These warnings were supported by a deliberate and methodical operation using lawful and safe tactics. Officers on the ground demonstrated patience and professionalism, requiring their extensive training and experience to manage the resistance, shelving, and vitriol they faced.

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Police warning to disperse or face force against violent individuals. Impact rounds will be used if crowd does not comply.

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The speaker claims that the incident could have been avoided if the officers had not used concussion grenades and pepper spray during a peaceful protest. According to the speaker, there was no provocation or rush towards the officers before they started firing these projectiles. The speaker emphasizes that they were standing within 15 feet of the officers when the grenades and pepper spray were deployed.

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During a protest, there were acts of violence against police officers. The speaker, who has custody of thousands of hours of videos, witnessed these acts. The officers responded with necessary force. However, another speaker claims that if the police hadn't used concussion grenades and pepper spray, the situation wouldn't have escalated. They argue that it was a peaceful protest and that the officers initiated the violence without provocation.

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A tense confrontation unfolds as a group debate and police arrival become the focus. The scene centers on a claim of ongoing activity for two and a half years, punctuated by demands and warnings directed at bystanders and the person approaching the camera. “There. Okay? Right there. For two and a half years, they've doing that.” The speaker points to an action or pattern that has been continuing over a long period and seeks attention or intervention from others present. The request “Hey. Where's the cops?” implies frustration or urgency about law enforcement missing from the scene as events escalate. A direct order follows: “Get your hands off. Go. Back off. He's camera.” The speaker instructs someone to retreat and to keep away from the camera, emphasizing the need to control interaction with the recording or observers. The phrase “On sir. Rest that guy. He's not That guy He came out towards my camera. You punched him first.” indicates a dispute about who initiated contact or aggression. The speaker asserts that “That guy” did not simply behave as claimed and accuses another party of approaching the camera, while stating “you punched him first,” shifting blame onto someone else in the confrontation. Additional directions are issued to the crowd: “All of you over there or away from the gas. Preferably, though.” This line suggests the presence of gas or a gas-related device and calls for people to distance themselves, with a preference for moving away from the gas source. The speaker then reinforces accountability: “That guy just assaulted.” The claim marks a pivotal moment—an accusation of assault by “that guy,” prompting a determination to “deal with this” and to move people back. Following this, the speaker reiterates posture and control: “Back over there. Hey.” The dialogue then shifts to questions about who has been arrested: “Are we the only one that was arrested?” The answer provided is: “Yeah. We'll talk to you over there.” The speaker notes an assault occurred, saying simply, “Assaulted.” The following declaration clarifies a temporary stance: “For now, we're fucking deescalating.” This emphasizes a strategic move to reduce tension rather than pursue further immediate action. The closing commands maintain the drive to create distance and manage the situation: “So please move back here.” The audience is reminded that someone has been arrested: “Arrested right now, sir.” Finally, a directive ties the communication together: “You're speaking with him. Please back off.” The overall sequence reflects a reactive, controlled response aimed at separating parties, stopping perceived aggression, and de-escalating amid competing accusations and crowd dynamics.

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Chemical munitions were deployed, including flashbangs. There was a request for assistance near the ice cream shop. The speaker, who has custody of thousands of hours of videos, witnessed acts of violence against police officers. The officers responded accordingly. However, another speaker argues that the protest was peaceful and the officers initiated the use of force with concussion grenades and pepper spray.

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I warned about chemical munitions and called for deployment. There's chaos as flashbangs are being used against us, and officers are shooting into their own crowd. We’re here to support Blue Lives Matter, but this is how we’re treated. A large crowd is approaching on High Street, and we need backup. There were violent acts that day, including brutal assaults on police officers. Our officers acted as necessary. However, if the police hadn’t used concussion grenades and pepper spray, the situation might have remained peaceful. We were standing close to them, and they initiated the violence without provocation. We’ve been tear-gassed.

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In June, federal police used tear gas to clear Lafayette Square for President Trump's photo op, violating a court-ordered settlement requiring clear warnings before using force. Peaceful protesters were present when police advanced shortly before a curfew, but the warnings were reportedly hard to hear. Acting park police chief Gregory Monahan claimed three warnings were given using a long-range acoustic device. However, Major Adam DeMarco of the DC National Guard, present during the incident, testified that the warnings were barely audible and delivered via a megaphone. Legal representatives of the original lawsuit believe the settlement terms were violated and plan to file a new lawsuit. In other news, Girl Scout Cookies will discontinue two flavors: Toast Yay's and Girl Scout S'mores, while Thin Mints remain safe. The cookie program generates about $1 billion in revenue for the organization.

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I served as lead counsel in the World Bank protest litigation for 14 years, focusing on mass arrests and the legal standards for police actions during protests. My testimony critiques the force used to clear protesters and emphasizes that just because prior violence occurred does not justify excessive force. Courts generally defer to officers' judgments in tense situations, but the legality of the means used to clear the park is crucial. I recommend Congress investigate the timeline of warnings given to protesters and gather evidence on injuries and police actions. The LRAD system used for warnings is effective, but compliance is expected after clear orders are issued. If officers command movement after warnings, citizens are legally obligated to comply, unless intimidation is evident.

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The National Guard and Marines are being stationed at federal buildings across the country where riots are taking place, not deployed against US citizens. They remain on federal property to provide security for those buildings. If people do not storm the federal building or attack the National Guard, they will not be attacked. As an investigative journalist who covers protests, the speaker says they stood two inches from the National Guard, who did nothing. The National Guard is not allowed to operate in a law enforcement capacity because the cities will not allow it.

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Ka$h Patel SHREDS 2nd Amendment: 'No Guns At Protest'
Guests: Kash Patel
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In this episode, the hosts discuss a shooting during a protest and the legal and civil liberties questions it raises. Janine Eunice, national legal director at the ADC, analyzes the evidence, contrasting what she calls a clear murder with other cases that sparked debate about self-defense standards for officers and the rights of protesters. She emphasizes that the standard requires force to be necessary, proportional, and based on an imminent threat, arguing that the video shows no justification for deadly force. The discussion moves to the statements of public officials who urged protesters not to bring firearms and to policies around brandishing and crowd control, noting how legal interpretations can diverge from public rhetoric. The conversation also touches on how immigration and administrative warrants operate in practice, and why judicial review matters when executive power is asserted in criminal enforcement. Across segments, the panelists stress that individual cases must be judged on facts, not slogans, and that civil liberties protections apply even in high-tension protest environments. They caution against conflating protest activity with criminal violence and remind listeners that lawful gun possession remains protected under Bruen, even in tense demonstrations.

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Crucial Questions After Shooting in Minneapolis, w/ James O'Keefe, Dave Aronberg, and Andrew Branca
Guests: James O'Keefe, Dave Aronberg, Andrew Branca
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The episode centers on the Minneapolis shooting and the broader controversy surrounding immigration enforcement, with Megyn Kelly hosting a panel that includes James O’Keefe, Dave Aronberg, and Andrew Branca. The discussion repeatedly contrasts different political viewpoints on how federal agents should respond to protests and potential criminal activity, and it probes the responsibilities and risks faced by law enforcement officers during active operations. The hosts and guests analyze video footage of the incident, debate whether shots fired were legally justified, and examine how perceptions of threat, whether real or perceived, influence officers’ use of force. They also explore the roles of media coverage, political narratives, and public opinion in shaping policy responses and electoral dynamics tied to immigration and border security. Throughout, participants acknowledge the chaotic environment of confrontations at protests, the challenges of identifying who is responsible, and the potential implications for future enforcement strategies. The conversation includes accounts from undercover journalists on the ground, descriptions of hostile crowds, threats received by reporters, and concerns about safety for both journalists and federal agents. Legal perspectives are debated at length, with emphasis on what constitutes reasonable perception of threat, the standards for prosecuting officers, and the complexities of prosecutorial choices in a politically charged climate. The segment also touches on the broader political climate, including remarks by public figures, intra-party disagreements over enforcement tactics, and the potential electoral consequences of how the incident is framed by media and policymakers. As the show progresses, the hosts reflect on accountability, transparency, and the tension between strong rhetoric and careful legal analysis in high-stakes public safety debates. The episode culminates in a nuanced discussion about possible future actions and the ongoing investigation, underscoring how investigative reporting, legal theory, and political commentary intersect in contemporary American discourse on security and civil liberties.

Breaking Points

ROUNDUP: ALL Trump Admin LIES About MN Shooting
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The episode centers on a major incident in Minnesota involving a shooting at a protest and the immediate government response. The hosts review what is known about the events, the actions of federal agents, and the subsequent public statements from the administration, noting contradictions and shifts in the official narrative. They discuss how the initial claim that the victim brandished a weapon and posed a mass threat was later contested, and they scrutinize the handling of the case by DHS and FBI officials, arguing that the points raised by officials do not align with the available video evidence. The conversation tightens around civil liberties implications, including how authorities characterized protest participants and the broader impact on individual rights during demonstrations. The hosts highlight the dissonance between real-time video footage and the administration’s rhetoric, emphasizing concerns about potential overreach and attempts to justify lethal force by tying it to perceived threats. A guest civil liberties attorney is announced to unpack the legal distinctions in similar cases, particularly the differences between this incident and a prior shooting, and to assess whether due process and proper investigation are being applied. The discourse then shifts to a second major thread: a new surveillance narrative about state actions against protesters. The hosts connect this to a broader trend toward a state surveillance apparatus and risk to civil liberties, including questions about the independence and credibility of investigations. The episode also touches on the political repercussions, including congressional scrutiny and potential shifts in party dynamics around immigration enforcement and governance. As the show rocks between domestic policy fallout and international developments, the conversation briefly turns to a high-profile foreign issue involving leadership and security concerns in China, underscoring the breadth of today’s breaking news. Throughout, the hosts foreground concerns about media responsibility, truthfulness in official narratives, and the consequences for ordinary citizens who exercise constitutional rights under heated political pressures.

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Trump THREATENS Chicago Mayor, Pritzker ARREST
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Trump’s latest volley targets Chicago's leadership as a federal court finds ICE repeatedly violated a consent decree on warrantless arrests, signaling a clash over immigration enforcement and local governance. The president threatens Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson and Governor J.B. Pritzker, claiming the mayor should be jailed for failing to protect ICE officers and chiding the governor. Pritzker responds by saying the president is unhinged and insecure, and vows to stand up to what he calls a bid to jail his people. The Chicago federal court ruling finds ICE violated the consent decree in multiple cases, noting 22 instances where collateral arrests occurred and warrants were not properly used. The decision has nationwide implications, given that the decree also ordered reporting changes and restrictions on arrests, and it raises questions about whether federal policy on immigration enforcement should be uniform nationwide or allowed to vary by jurisdiction. Portions of the discussion shift to "Meal Team 6" as Texas National Guard troops are deployed into Chicago, framed as a dramatic escalation by red-state versus blue-state politics. The hosts debate the symbolism and legality, noting the Guard’s limited authority and that the plan has sparked comparisons to fascist rhetoric while warning about militarized enforcement. The conversation then turns to Trump's Antifa roundtable, including claims of targeting the organization like cartels and the push to curb speech, followed by criticism that no centralized Antifa structure exists. They reference a Trump-era DHS clip, discuss media framing, and contrast officials' claims with internal reports describing protests outside the ICE facility as low energy. The hosts discuss a Chicago area incident in which a couple facing charges from a confrontation with agents and a gun at the waist were not indicted by a grand jury, highlighting debates over procedure and evidence. Pepper-spray and use-of-force incidents involving law enforcement are described, along with debates about how media and officials portray protests and constitutional rights in these confrontations.
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