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Speaker 0 argues that due to the country’s horrible history, levels of reparation are completely appropriate, but acknowledges that much has changed this century and that merit should eventually be reinstated to where it formally was. They state that the issue was bypassed, and that the people it’s supposed to help are often not helped by forgetting about it. Speaker 1 counters by saying merit is just a concept, and questions how to solve the problem, especially with “two white dudes sitting on a couch.” They reject the idea of guilt and assert that being white does not mean they cannot have opinions or engage in the discussion.

Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1 of being a corrupt politician. Speaker 1 responds by mentioning that 50 former national intelligence officials and the heads of the CIA have dismissed the accusations as false. Speaker 0 dismisses this as another Russia hoax. Speaker 1 tries to steer the conversation back to the issue of race.

The exchange centers on accusations of hyperbolic statements and the accuracy of quoted posts. Speaker 0 challenges Speaker 1's credibility, citing a series of posts and asking whether the statements were read correctly. - On 02/11/2026, Speaker 0 cites a Blueski post: “my words or your words, not mine. The democrats video telling service members to ignore illegal orders didn't go far enough. They should have also urged them to refuse unethical orders, whether illegal or not. There are many things deemed legal that are still obviously unethical, and everyone should hold themselves to this higher law,” and asks, “Did I read that correctly?” Speaker 1 confirms reading it and asks if Speaker 0 disagrees with it, questioning whether people should do unethical things in their capacity of [unknown context]. - On 12/31/2025, Speaker 0 references a post reading, “in front of god and country. … They referring to Republicans think they control their way into us accepting ethnic cleansing,” and asks, “Did I read that correctly?” Speaker 1 responds that it related to a DHS security post advocating a 100,000,000 deportations, stating that “A 100,000,000 deportations would be ethnic cleansing,” adding, “You would be True. One third of the country. So, yes, there are people within the Department of Homeland security.” Speaker 0 asks whether this is hyperbolic and requests more time. - On 02/05 (implied), Speaker 1 notes, “advocating a 100,000,000” but the sentence is cut off in the transcript. Speaker 0 comments, “reputations is … cleansing,” while continuing to engage in the discussion with the chair and audience; Speaker 0 asks for thirty more seconds. - On 03/02, Speaker 0 quotes Speaker 1: “if you rule against Trump's population purge agenda, no hyper permanently there, the nativists will name you, threaten you, and come after you. These judges are much braver than the ICE agents who hide behind masks while violating the constitution. They are much braver.” Speaker 1 clarifies, “They put their names on their rulings, and they stand behind their constitutional rulings. When I talk about population purge, I'm talking about the fact that they're trying to deport US born citizens, people born here. They are trying to deport them as well. So it's not a mass deportation agenda. It is also an agenda intended to reduce the population of The United States, including US born people.” - Speaker 0 responds, “Thank you.” Speaker 1 adds, “These are not hyperbolic statements. I appreciate you reading my account. Here's the good news.” The conversation escalates in tone as Speaker 0 interjects with disbelief, asking, “What planet … parachute him from?” Speaker 1 replies, “No. No.” Speaker 0 comments, “Hey, guys. You're you you You trigger my gag reflex,” and Speaker 1 closes with, “Mr. Bieber.”

Speaker 0 questions the idea of representative groups and opposes representing individuals based on group identity, using the example of Jewish representation in Congress. Speaker 1 argues that the entire population is not fully represented, noting the absence of a Black female president. Speaker 0 raises the question of whether Jews are considered white, stating it's been debated and depends on the context. Speaker 1 asks Speaker 0 directly if he identifies as white. Speaker 0 clarifies he's a man of Jewish ethnicity, sometimes grouped with white, sometimes not, depending on who is doing the grouping. Speaker 1 asks if Speaker 0 is not white at all. Speaker 0 reiterates that it depends on the context and acknowledges that Jews have been grouped both with and without white people.

Speaker 1 is asked about their previous tweets regarding Trump and Brian Kemp stealing elections. Speaker 1 dismisses the comparison as ridiculous and clarifies that they were referring to the threat to voting rights at that time.

Speaker 1 states that to be convinced there is no white genocide in South Africa, President Trump would need to listen to South African voices, including those of his friends. Speaker 1 believes that if there was an Afrikaner farmer genocide, his minister of agriculture would not be present. Speaker 0 claims there are thousands of stories, documentaries, and news stories about the genocide. Speaker 0 offers to show articles as evidence. Speaker 1 states that with or without parliament, people are going to occupy land.

Speaker 0 confronts Speaker 1 about a controversial statement made regarding Israelis and Arabs. Speaker 1 admits that the tweet was dumb and clarifies that it specifically refers to the Hamas leadership. Speaker 0 disagrees, pointing out that Speaker 1 also made derogatory comments about Palestinians. Speaker 1 denies this and emphasizes that it was only directed at those who oppose Israel. The conversation ends with Speaker 0 mentioning Speaker 1's statement about the Palestinian Arab population being rotten.

Speaker 0 opens by saying he tries to be as transparent as possible and offers to share what the text in court filings was about. Speaker 1 asks to know, and Speaker 0 begins to explain. Speaker 0 reflects on his past views: he has no incentive to lie, he runs a business with his college roommate, and he supported the Iraq War vehemently, supported the nomination of Amy Coney Barrett (calling it a huge mistake and that it wasn’t what he thought), and he supports John Roberts. He says the list of “dumb things” he supported is long, and he has spent the last twenty-two years trying to atone for his support for the Iraq War. Speaker 1 acknowledges appreciation for that, and Speaker 0 continues. He says he isn’t seeking affirmation but explains the text in question concerns a discussion with a producer about election integrity. He describes a January post-election conversation with someone at the White House after Trump claimed the election was stolen. He says he was willing to believe allegations and asked for examples. The White House regional contact offered seven or eight dead people who voted, asserting they could be proven because death certificates and obituaries showed they voted and were on voter rolls. He states he did not claim “slam dunk” proof and insists he does not trust campaigns or campaign consultants, but he believed the claim was verifiable. Speaker 0 recounts going on air with the claim that “seven or ten dead people voted” and listing the names to show the evidence. He says, within about twenty-five minutes, some of the deceased people contacted CNN to say they were not dead, and CNN exposed that he had made a colossal error. He emphasizes that there is nothing he hates more than being wrong and humiliated, and that he should have checked whether someone had died; he acknowledges not checking carefully. Speaker 1 asks why he didn’t say these things on Fox News earlier. Speaker 0 says he did the next day. Speaker 1 contends he did not, and asks for the tape. Speaker 0 asserts he went on air the next day and admits he was completely wrong, blaming the Trump campaign for taking their word and also blaming the staffer who provided the information; he says he is still mad at that person. Speaker 1 challenges ownership of the situation and asks about the influence and the value of his career, implying he holds substantial influence with a top-rated show. They clash over sincerity and the magnitude of his earnings. Speaker 0 denies alignment with the accusation of insincerity, but Speaker 1 remains skeptical and asserts a belief that his sincerity is in question and that his views may be financially motivated. The conversation ends with Speaker 0 telling Speaker 1 to stop and declaring they’re done, as Speaker 1 pushes back about the immense wealth and status, prompting Speaker 0 to end the exchange abruptly.

Speaker 0 states it is not okay to be white because white people have "done too much bad" and should "try not to be white." Speaker 1 questions if these statements constitute hate speech, imagining the reaction if someone expressed similar sentiments toward their skin color. Speaker 1 believes only white people are held accountable for their words and actions, and that some people are striving for supremacy rather than equality. Speaker 1 wonders if the person who made the initial statements is gainfully employed and if it would be wrong to find out where they work and inform their employer.

Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1 of "white guilt" and weakness, claiming he is creating more "Austin Metcalfs" by not condemning his son's killer and the culture that caused it. Speaker 1 counters that Speaker 0 has been "submitted" and is weak. Speaker 1 questions Speaker 0's patriotism, asking where he was on January 6th. He accuses Speaker 0 of "murdering white people" and being a degenerate. Speaker 1 claims Speaker 0 is using Austin Metcalf's name for t-shirts and propaganda. Speaker 1 states he will run for Senate in Florida as a Republican and defeat Speaker 0. He accuses Speaker 0 of trying to shut down a white man and trying to raise money. Speaker 1 says he came to give Speaker 0 a message from a father.

Speaker 1 addresses the accusation of stolen elections by MAGA Republicans. Speaker 0 mentions a tweet and the claim that Brian Kemp stole an election. Speaker 1 acknowledges the question and dismisses the comparison as ridiculous. They clarify that they were referring to the threat to voting rights at that time.

Speaker 0 claims Black Americans are the wealthiest black people globally and believes victimhood is a hindrance, asserting nothing holds black people back and they benefit from advantages like lower college test score requirements and freedom of speech. Speaker 1 objects to the "victim mentality" claim. Speaker 1 states that people say the n-word to them frequently. Speaker 0 expresses disbelief and accuses Speaker 1 of a "race hoax" akin to Jussie Smollett, suggesting the alleged incident is fabricated to portray white students as racist. Speaker 0 asks if a black person said the n-word. Speaker 1 does not answer the question. Speaker 0 argues that if the n-word wasn't used as an insult, it shouldn't be presented as evidence of racism.

Speaker 0 questions why black people complain and can't earn their own way. Speaker 1 counters, stating that black people are smart and were brought to build the nation. Speaker 0 disagrees, claiming that black people were sold by other blacks to Arabs, who then sold them worldwide. Speaker 1 interrupts, mentioning white people stealing and building the White House. Speaker 0 dismisses this, accusing black people of begging and being destructive. Speaker 1 denies begging and mentions reparation, affirmative action, and access to schools and jobs. Speaker 0 insists that black people are begging for various benefits and questions why they don't act smart instead.

Speaker 0 questions Speaker 1 about past tweets and NPR content. Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 1 believes America is addicted to white supremacy, if America believes in black plunder and white democracy, and if white people inherently feel superior. Speaker 1 says their thinking has evolved and denies holding those beliefs now, also stating they don't recall some tweets. Speaker 0 confronts Speaker 1 with their past tweets about reparations, asking if white people should pay them. Speaker 1 claims the tweet wasn't about fiscal reparations. Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 1 believes looting is morally wrong, and Speaker 1 confirms that it is. Speaker 0 then questions Speaker 1 about NPR content, including a book called In Defense of Looting, an article about gender queer dinosaur enthusiasts, and an editorial stating that fear of fatness is more harmful than actual fat. Speaker 1 says they are unfamiliar with some of the content. Speaker 0 accuses NPR of editorializing and promoting garbage, vowing to defund them.

Speaker 0 tells Speaker 1 she will be taken too because she has brown skin. Speaker 1 calls this racist, stating she is an American citizen. Speaker 0 says it doesn't matter, and Speaker 1 accuses her of saying she will be deported because she is brown. Speaker 1 says she voted for Donald Trump, who she met and is very nice, and that Speaker 0 is racist. Speaker 0 says Speaker 1 is supporting mass deportation. Speaker 1 says she supports mass deportation of people who are not American citizens. Speaker 0 says she is Catholic. Speaker 1 says American citizens are not going to get deported. Speaker 0 says potentially, citing Raz Baraka's arrest, claiming he was targeted by ICE. Speaker 1 says he was charged with trespassing. Speaker 1 calls Speaker 0 a whole ass adult calling people Nazis in 2025. Speaker 0 says this is Nazi behavior. Speaker 1 asks if Speaker 0 thinks it was racist to tell her she was going to get deported because she's brown. Speaker 0 says she doesn't know that happened.

Speaker 0 asks Speaker 1 if they are ruling out the possibility of calling for the slaughter of white people in the future. Speaker 1 responds by saying they don't know what will happen and it may or may not be them. Speaker 0 clarifies that it could be Speaker 1 and asks what would necessitate that. Speaker 1 doesn't know and questions why they would do that. Speaker 0 asks Speaker 1 to pledge to never call for the slaughter of white people, but Speaker 1 refuses to make that pledge. Speaker 0 understands.

The speaker discusses reparations and suggests that the Democratic party should pay them to black Americans. They mention the history of black people becoming Republicans in the 1800s and creating successful communities like Black Wall Street. The speaker also points out that the Ku Klux Klan, created by the Democratic party, targeted black communities like Black Wall Street.

Speaker 0 asks Speaker 1 about a viral moment after a game against the Indiana Fever, in which many people believe Speaker 1 said, "effing white girl" or "effing white girls." Speaker 1 states definitively that she did not say that and would never say that, as there is no place for that type of language in the league. Speaker 0 asks if it's possible that's what Speaker 1 said, even though Speaker 1 can't remember. Speaker 1 reiterates that she knows that's not what she said because she wouldn't use that type of language.

Speaker 0 challenges Speaker 1 to publicly address an issue larger than Austin, accusing him of "white guilt" and weakness that is creating more "Austin Metcalfs." Speaker 0 urges Speaker 1 to condemn his son's killer and the culture that caused it. Speaker 1 accuses Speaker 0 of being degenerate, murdering white people, and not being patriotic. Speaker 1 claims that silence has not helped and asks where Speaker 0 was on January 6th. Speaker 1 states that Speaker 0 is only condemning his solution to help people where they're weak, particularly young black males. Speaker 1 says he will run for Senate in Florida as a Republican and defeat Speaker 0. Speaker 1 accuses Speaker 0 of wanting to shut down a white man. Speaker 1 states he came to give a message from his father. Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1 of trying to shut him down because he is a black man.

Speaker 1: I believe that together we can make America great again. To secure a better future for your children and your grandchildren and to make America great again. I want to attack these problems and make America great again. It's time for another comeback. Time to make America great again. Speaker 0: Monica puffed on your cigar so hard the hypocrisy smoke is still lingering, decades later. Straight up called her the dog whistle. Speaker 1: That message where yeah. I'll give you America great again is if you're a white southerner, you know exactly what it means, don't you? What it means is I give you economy you had fifty years ago, and I'll move you back up on the social totem pole and other people down. Speaker 0: Either it was racist when he said it or it's not racist when Trump said it. Pick a lane. You can't make this shit up.

Speaker 0 claims most people in the country voted for Trump and that he won the popular vote. Speaker 1 disputes this, stating it was a slim majority of voters and that too few people voted. Speaker 0 says those who cared about issues voted for Trump to eliminate waste, fraud, and abuse. Speaker 1 counters that lots of voters were purged from voter rolls before the election. Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1 of election denial. Speaker 1 accuses the "narcissist in that building" of gaslighting.

Speaker 0 questions Speaker 1 about their statement regarding the potential future call for the slaughter of white people. Speaker 1 initially states that they are not ruling out the possibility, but later clarifies that they cannot guarantee it. Speaker 0 asks Speaker 1 to make a pledge to never call for such an act, but Speaker 1 refuses. The conversation ends with Speaker 0 acknowledging Speaker 1's response.

The speaker questions the evidence behind the idea of reparations and argues that slavery was a universal curse, not confined to one race. They mention that giving reparations to all descendants of slaves would involve a significant portion of the global population. The conversation then shifts to discussing the concept of white guilt and the ongoing legacy of slavery. The speaker expresses skepticism about apologizing for the actions of past generations and highlights a quote from Scalia about not owing anyone anything based on their race.

Speaker 0 states that Jewish individuals own much of the media, fund politicians who demand reparations for the black community, and take the intellectual lead in combating initiatives proposed by the first group. Speaker 0 claims this results in black and white workers fighting each other while Jewish individuals profit and assume leadership. Speaker 1 agrees with Speaker 0, except for the claim that Jewish individuals profit. Speaker 1 believes Jewish leaders are doing what they think is correct. Speaker 1 states that Jewish individuals tend to take the intellectual lead in most movements. Speaker 0 claims that Jewish individuals create issues, and that the issue of reparations didn't exist until created by Jewish individuals. Speaker 1 is inclined to agree, and says Jewish individuals take the lead in civil rights generally. Speaker 0 claims they take the lead in opposing them, creating issues and dividing people.

Speaker 0 was alarmed to see the MSM, either CNN or MSNBC, defining a certain action as reparations and stating, "This is what reparations means." Speaker 1 stated that certain people should experience being in a farm in the middle of the night when someone comes for them, gang rape, and witnessing the torture and death of a loved one before reparations can be discussed. Speaker 1 does not recommend gang rape, based on personal experience.