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I gotta be careful the way I say this. 'To they're gonna try to ethnically cleanse Gaza.' 'I mean, that that's and I'm I don't use that term lightly. Okay?' 'They're talking about basically removing 2,500,000 people from there.' 'Okay?' 'And, honestly, they have a mandate to go seek justice and revenge.' 'They do.' 'The the there is they this idea that they need to have a true truce or a peace treaty, that's morally after you see women and children be burned alive and dragged to the streets.' This excerpt centers on warnings about ethnic cleansing, removal of residents, revenge, and a controversial view on truces or peace treaties amid violence.

And one thing a friend said to me interestingly, which is, okay. Charlie, we've pushed back against the media on COVID, on lockdowns, on Ukraine, on the border, on so, like, maybe we should also ask a question. 'Is the media totally presenting the truth when it comes to Israel?' 'Just a question, you know, that maybe we shouldn't believe everything the media says because I know I've been conditioned to ask a lot more critical questions over the last couple of years.' 'So, Ben, some people would accuse Israel of wanting to ethnically cleanse.'

Discussion on Hamas and Israel. 'Israel, bombed Qatar, which houses a lot of Hamas officials,' and asks whether this 'will this potentially endanger America's own interest in The Middle East?' They compare Israel’s aims to 'unconditional surrender' and ask, 'What does success look like in Gaza?' noting that twenty three months have passed. They seek feedback from American perspective on how things could have been handled—PR, conduct—and how to respond to claims that Israel is committing genocide. The dialogue questions whether the media is totally presenting the truth when it comes to Israel, and discusses ethnic cleansing and what a good outcome five years from now would be. The host adds: 'You can't be MAGA if you're anti Israel,' and 'And it is totally fine to say to people who wish to destroy our civilization, no, your values suck, and they don't belong here.'

Speaker argues the Israeli hard-right government has a mandate to ethnically cleanse Gaza, saying, "they're gonna try to ethnically cleanse Gaza," and to "remove 2,500,000 people from there." He adds, "the idea that they need to have a true truce or a peace treaty, that's morally crap after you see women and children be burned alive and dragged to the streets." He cites pattern recognition—"COVID, Maui fires, you know, Epstein"—and says his gut instinct is reliable. "I've been to Israel many times." He calls the country a fortress and notes "the whole country is surveilled." He claims "The last nine months, Israel is on the brink of civil war," with "hundreds of thousands of Israelis taking to the streets because Bibi Netanyahu was basically redefining the Israeli constitution"—"That’s not an exaggeration." Netanyahu has "an emergency government and a mandate to lead," and he asks, "Was there a stand down order?"

It's a trick we Israelis often use. When Europeans criticize Israel, we bring up the Holocaust. Here in America, critics of Israel are labeled anti-Semitic. The ties between Israel and the American Jewish establishment are strong. They are a talented group of people and wield power in media and money. Their attitude is "Israel, my country, right or wrong". They aren't open to criticism. It's easy to dismiss those who criticize the Israeli government as anti-Semitic, evoking the Holocaust and Jewish suffering to justify our actions towards the Palestinians.

People can say what they want on the sidewalk, as that's what the first amendment allows. However, the term "genocide" is being used inappropriately by many. Hamas, on the other hand, wants to wipe Israel off the map and has publicly stated this multiple times. They have no intention of stopping their actions, which involve murdering innocent people in their homes or at events. While there are too many civilian casualties in Gaza, Israel is not trying to eliminate the Palestinian people or Gaza. They are defending themselves against a genocidal terrorist threat. If we are going to use the word "genocide," let's use it appropriately.

What I’m about to say now, most people in conspiracy research won’t touch this subject. I’m going to touch it because I’m sick of it and sick of people being frightened and intimidated into not touching it. First of all, we as a human race have got to get our heads around what this is because it ain’t what we’re told it is. It’s not about what’s right and beneficial for Jewish people. Jewish people are its victims, not its beneficiaries. Jewish people have been hung out to dry again and again by this crowd. They claim to have their best interests at heart like hell they do. That’s why I call this Rothschild Zionism. It was created by them. It is controlled by them to this minute, and it was created as a secret society within the web to massively contribute to the manipulation and control of our global society and individual countries, etcetera, etcetera. It’s Rothschild Zionism. Anti Zionism is not antisemitism. Not that antisemitism means what we think it does. Zionism is not about Jewish people. Even in its play out way or world, it is political system, a political philosophy. At its core, it is a secret society putting its agents in places of power. One of the very few things that Joe Biden, vice president of The United States, has ever said, which is true, is you don’t have to be Jewish to be a Zionist. Because of the propaganda, we equate Zionism with Jewish people. It’s not how it is. How many people know this? How many Jewish people around the world protesting at organizations created to protest against Zionism? Zionism and Judaism are diametrically opposed. Zionism is state organized terror. How many times do we see this in the newspapers? Never. End of Zionism equals peace. Israel, stop killing Palestinians. I am Jewish, and I want that. Why do we hear about this? We condemn any Zionist aggression against Iran. I thought every Jewish person in the world wanted to bomb Iran. That’s what the media seemed to give us an indication about. Another Jew against Zionism. Over and over, Rothschild dynasty created Israel. It paid for the first people out of Europe to go and populate Israel after the war. It paid for the building of the Knesset. It paid for the building of the supreme court building with all its illuminati symbols all over it. And some of the people who’ve broken out of the family, I quote one of them in my book, have actually said, Israel is not the homeland of Jewish people. It is the fiefdom of the Rothschild dynasty created out of Rothschild Zionism, a secret society. And Rothschild Zionism has been used via Israel to devastate, slaughter, torture an entire nation of human beings while claiming to be against terrorism. This is the dictionary definition of genocide, the systematic and widespread extermination or attempted extermination of an entire national, racial, religious, or ethnic group. Never can what is happening in Palestine and Gaza have been described so accurately. More and more people killed through war, killed through bombing attacks, killed through shootings, killed through lack of food and adequate medical care. Gaza, the most crowded piece of land on earth, is little more ironically than a concentration camp, and the world looks on. And then we got this wall, sorry, security fence, which has taken great tracks of Palestinian land, right all against international law and all the rest of it. This green is Palestinian land in 1946. Then we see what has happened since. This is 2000. We're in 2010 now. It’s much smaller than that. What was I saying? The systematic and widespread extermination or attempted extermination of an entire national racial, religious, or ethnic group. And I say to these Rothschild Zionists, don’t you bloody dare talk about racism of others when you are behind this. It’s an elephant in the bloody living room, and people are terrified of going there because they’re terrified of being called racist and antisemitic and all that. They’ll call you antisemitic. I don’t give a shit. I don’t give a shit.

One friend suggested questioning whether the media is fully truthful about Israel, noting that we've pushed back against the media on COVID, lockdowns, Ukraine, and the border. The friend asked, "Is the media totally presenting the truth when it comes to Israel?" and added, "Just a question, you know, that maybe we shouldn't believe everything the media says because I know I've been conditioned to ask a lot more critical questions over the last couple of years." The speaker then points to a claim people make: "So, Ben, some people would accuse Israel of wanting to ethnically cleanse." This framing links media credibility debates across issues to perceptions of Israel.

Speaker argues the Israeli hard right government has a mandate to ethnically cleanse Gaza, saying, 'to they're gonna try to ethnically cleanse Gaza.' They claim they aim to remove '2,500,000 people from there.' He adds, 'there is they this idea that they need to have a true truce or a peace treaty, that's morally crap after you see women and children be burned alive and dragged to the streets.' He says, 'The whole country is a fortress' and you 'cannot go 10 feet without running into a 19 year old with an a r 15 or an automatic machine gun that is an IDF soldier.' He states, 'The last nine months, Israel is on the brink of civil war' and notes protests against Netanyahu, who 'now has an emergency government and a mandate to lead.' He asks, 'Was there a stand down order?'

It's late at night. Israel is in a fight for their lives. Our friends in Israel are surrounded by people who would kill them all if they could. I am tired of the word genocide. If Israel wanted to commit genocide, they could. They have the capability to do that. They choose not to. Hamas, they would commit genocide in thirty seconds. They just can't. Israel is our friend. They're the most reliable friend we have in the Mideast. A word of warning, if America pulls the plug on Israel, God will pull the plug on us. October 7 was an effort to destroy the state of Israel, the largest loss of Jewish life since the holocaust. and here we are almost two years later, and Israel's the bad guy.

Speaker says 'Fact is now Bibi and the Israeli hard right government has a mandate' I gotta be careful the way I say this. 'To they're gonna try to ethnically cleanse Gaza.' They say 'They're talking about basically removing 2,500,000 people from that.' 'And honestly, they have a mandate to go seek justice and revenge.' They add: 'the idea that they need to have a true truce or a peace treaty, that's more after you see women and children be burned alive and dragged to the streets.' But there are some serious questions here, Patrick. And let me tell you, my pattern recognition over the last five years has become pretty sharp. 'COVID, Maui fires, you know, Epstein.' 'When I see a story and it doesn't click, we're our guts are usually right.'

Rothschild Zionism, not Jewish people, is the problem. Jewish people are its victims. Anti-Zionism is not antisemitism because Zionism is a political system, a secret society placing its agents in power. One doesn't have to be Jewish to be a Zionist. Many Jewish people protest Zionism, and Zionism and Judaism are diametrically opposed. Zionism is state-organized terror, yet this is not reported. The Rothschild dynasty created Israel and paid for its infrastructure, including the Knesset and Supreme Court. Israel is not the homeland of Jewish people but the Rothschild dynasty's fiefdom, created out of Rothschild Zionism. It has been used to devastate and slaughter Palestinians while claiming to be against terrorism. This is genocide: the systematic extermination of a national, racial, religious, or ethnic group. Gaza is a concentration camp, and Palestinian homes are being demolished and given to extremist settlers.

"Israel is in a fight for their lives." "I am tired of the word genocide." "If Israel wanted to commit genocide, they could. They have the capability to do that. They choose not to." "Hamas, they would commit genocide in thirty seconds. They just can't." "Israel is our friend. They're the most reliable friend we have in the Mideast." "A word of warning, if America pulls the plug on Israel, God will pull the plug on us." "October 7 was an effort to destroy the state of Israel, the largest loss of Jewish life since the holocaust, and here we are almost two years later and Israel's the bad guy." "Israel's the bad guy." "The bad guys are the radical Islamists who would kill everybody in this room if they could."

The speaker claims that Israel views the October 7th attacks as an opportunity for ethnic cleansing in Gaza to solve a demographic problem. This allegation is based on data in the Israeli press, where, according to the speaker, Israelis have openly discussed this idea. The speaker states that the population of Gaza is largely composed of descendants from the 1948 ethnic cleansing, and that there was another massive ethnic cleansing after the 1967 war in the West Bank. The speaker suggests that a third attempt at ethnic cleansing in Gaza is not surprising. According to the speaker, literature on the creation of Israel thoroughly documents that ethnic cleansing was discussed by Zionists from the beginning, as it was seen as necessary to create a greater Israel. The speaker rejects the idea that Palestine was a land without people for a people without land.

I am tired of the word genocide. If Israel wanted to commit genocide, they could. They have the capability to do that. They choose not to. Hamas, they would commit genocide in thirty seconds. They just can't. Israel is our friend. They're a democracy surrounded by people who would cut their throats if they could. A word of warning, if America pulls the plug on Israel, God will pull the plug on us. October 7 was an effort to destroy the state of Israel, the largest loss of Jewish life since the holocaust, and here we are almost two years later and Israel's the bad guy. That's ridiculous. Israel is not the bad guy. They're the good guy. The bad guys are the radical Islamists who would kill everybody in this room if they could. When it comes to foreign policy, president Trump has stood up for all the right things, and he stood up against wrong things just like Reagan.

Speaker recounts a friend's suggestion that after pushing back against the media on COVID, lockdowns, Ukraine, and the border, perhaps we should also ask a question: 'Is the media totally presenting the truth when it comes to Israel?' They add: 'Just a question, you know, that maybe we shouldn't believe everything the media says because I know I've been conditioned to ask a lot more critical questions over the last couple of years.' The conversation concludes by noting: 'So, Ben, some people would accuse Israel of wanting to ethnically cleanse.' The exchange centers on media scrutiny and skepticism regarding information across issues.

Team civilization discusses Israel-Hamas, noting "Israel, bombed Qatar, which houses a lot of Hamas officials" and questions what happened and whether it endangers America's interests. The discussion mentions Japan's unconditional surrender and asks, "Is that what Israel is aiming for here?" They ask what "ultimate success" in Gaza would look like after about twenty-three months, and warn that a long war is not good for Israel. They seek feedback on handling, PR, and conduct, and confront the claim "Israel is committing genocide." They question media coverage: "is the media totally presenting the truth when it comes to Israel?" They discuss ethnic cleansing and ask, "what would a good outcome five years from now be, and how does one respond to the claims of ethnic cleansing?" Ben Shapiro’s stance is referenced: "You can't be MAGA if you're anti Israel. I don't like it for a couple of reasons."

"Here's what Democrats are going to what Jewish Democrats or Jews in general are going to have to make a decision." "Until you crush the cultural Marxist lens of which they view the world, you will never actually be able to build support for Israel." "You cannot subsidize support and play footsie with cultural Marxism and have a future for the state of Israel, so you have to choose." "And Jews have been some of the largest funders of cultural Marxist ideas and supporters of those ideas over the last thirty or forty years." "Stop supporting causes that hate you." "Until you cleanse that ideology from the hierarchy and the academic elite of the West, there will not be a safe future." "Until you shed that ideology, you will not be able to build the case for Israel because they view Israel as an oppressor."

Netanyahu had been waging a seven front war in the region, and now The United States has become the eighth front. And they wanna prevent anyone from being able to express themselves anywhere in the digital online ecosystem by just buying it all. That truth is being reversed, put on its head by a campaign of lies. Israel is now portrayed as the enemy of Christians. And the enemies of Christians are portrayed as the friends of The United States. The information sphere, the info sphere is the eighth front in this war and seizing the high ground in the fight for global public opinion. If you wouldn't tolerate it if someone's wearing a swastika on their arm, I'm sorry. You shouldn't tolerate it if you're wearing it if you're wearing a confetti.

Israel is in a fight for their lives. I am tired of the word genocide. If Israel wanted to commit genocide, they could. They have the capability to do that; they choose not to. Hamas, they would commit genocide in thirty seconds. They just can't. And that's the big difference, folks. Israel is our friend—the most reliable friend we have in the Mideast—a democracy surrounded by people who would cut their throats if they could. A word of warning: if America pulls the plug on Israel, God will pull the plug on us. President Trump has stood with Israel at the most difficult time since his founding; October 7 was an effort to destroy the state of Israel, the largest loss of Jewish life since the holocaust, and here we are almost two years later and Israel's the bad guy. The bad guys are the radical Islamists who would kill everybody in this room if they could.

Speaker 0 opens with "we wanna see the maniacs of Hamas be defeated" and notes "Israel, bombed Qatar, which houses a lot of Hamas officials," asking "What happened here? ... Will this potentially endanger America's own interest in The Middle East?" He contrasts Israel's aims with "unconditional surrender" and asks, "Is that what Israel is aiming for here?" He wonders what "success look[s] like" in Gaza after about twenty-three months and what could have been done differently "on the PR front" or "conduct front." A claim heard is "Israel is committing genocide." The discussion touches on media skepticism, accusations that Israel wants to "ethnically cleanse," and asks for a five-year outlook. The remark "you can't be MAGA if you're anti Israel" prompts Ben Shapiro's response: "And it is totally fine to say to people who wish to destroy our civilization, no, your values suck, and they don't belong here."

Smith onto the space. Harrison, thanks for joining. We’ve got questions about your tweet. How are you? Harrison: I’m pretty good. I just got home, trying to do Advent with my kids, so I have about ten minutes. I heard Matt Baker defending me, so I came to settle objections. What’s up? Smith: First of all, I appreciate you coming on. We’ve had disagreements on X. The first question is about your original tweet about someone telling you Charlie Kirk was going to be assassinated. Explain that, because I’ve got a question about your second tweet. Harrison: That’s it. There’s no further explanation. Somebody with knowledge of the situation told me that, and I tweeted it in response to something Ian Carroll had said, a month before. I told the story again on Moonbase Live when I talked to Jake Shields, a week before the shooting. I won’t tell you who told me because they asked me not to, but it’s basically corroborated. The person I talked to was not the same as those who talked to people like Max Blumenthal. So apparently, multiple people are telling the same story. Only I published it before the event. Did the FBI or TC or something ask you any questions about it? Smith: Nope. Harrison: And that’s the problem, Soleiman. That’s the problem right there. Smith: We’ll move on. He’s got ten minutes. The tweet today said: “the assassination of Charlie Kirk has been a resounding success for the left, they got to kill one of our shining lights, divide the right and normalise political violence and the only backlash they received was Jimmy Kimmel show got suspended for two days.” That seems to contradict your first statement, since the first tweet was before the assassination. How does that message come across? Harrison: The first tweet was before the assassination, so it couldn’t have anything to do with who I thought did it. It was before the assassination, a month earlier, and I had heard the rumor that Charlie Kirk feared for his life. The second tweet reflects the world view that most left people have: “we killed Charlie Kirk. We got away with.” It’s about the left believing they did it and got away with it, and it’s about the weakness of the right to treat threats against us with seriousness. Whether or not it was a leftist is still up in the air; I have unanswered questions about the patsy they have now. Still, the left has benefited. The left acts like they did it. The official story is the left did it, personally. I have questions about that story, but what matters is the widespread perception that the left did it and got away with it, and that informs their behavior. Smith: Do you think the widespread opinion matters? Harrison: I can’t hear you both at once. Matt? Smith: How do you feel about the genocide in Gaza? Harrison: I’m strongly against the genocide in Gaza. Vocally. Since before October 7. I’m against it as an Israeli shill? Smith: No one said that. The argument was that you’ve spoken out against genocide in Gaza before October 7, but Infowars promotes Zionist agendas and Zionist talking points, attacking Muslims in the United States and the UK. Zionist billionaires like Robert Shillman, etc. Harrison: I get it. Zionist interests overlap with mine, but it has nothing to do with Zionism in our calculus. I am for Western culture, America, heritage Americans of all backgrounds, and I’m fighting for Christianity. I’m against Muslims infiltrating Western countries, and I’m against Zionists controlling Western countries. These are not contradictory. There’s nothing Zionist about not wanting Muslims to take over your country, just like there’s nothing Muslim about not wanting Zionists to control your country. Infowars is anti-Zionist recently, and Alex condemns what Israel and Netanyahu are doing. But there’s a deliberate message of unity of all Americans who aren’t trying to dominate or subvert others. Unless they’re Christians, of course. Smith: So you’re saying you’re not arguing for a single team; it’s two enemies, rock, paper, scissors? Harrison: It’s two enemies, not one. I’m against both. I’m against Muslims taking over and against Zionists dominating. It’s not contradictory. It’s not about a single team. Smith: The point isn’t that you must pick sides; the issue is you’ve pushed claims that there is a Muslim takeover, which isn’t supported by numbers or power. People argue this is propaganda. Harrison: Okay. I don’t care whether the takeover has progressed. If I said it’s fake, I’d say that. I’ve got to go, but I appreciate the clarification. Smith: Posted on the day Jake Lang went; you were clearly talking about him. Harrison: I was talking about why Dearborn was the location of the march and why it was appropriate. Jake Lang is Jewish and Zionist; he’s not a Christian. He’s ethnically Jewish. He says he’s Christian, and in Christianity you can convert. I’ll call him a Christian man if that’s how he defines himself. Thanks.

Why is it that Jewish people in this country get blamed for what a nation on the other side of the world is doing constantly? He cites incidents: 'a couple weeks ago, we had, an individual show up at a synagogue in San Antonio with a knife, yelling at the people who came out of services, f all you Jews, go back to your country.' We had a Jewish man assaulted in broad daylight in San Francisco. He continues, 'Anti Zionism, I've long said is anti Semitism. I was wrong. Anti Zionism is genocide.' 'And what I mean is if you so dehumanize Zionists, by the way, every Jewish person is a Zionist.' 'So the idea that our national anthem would be the Hatikva, would be the hope. I should say our. It's the Israel's national anthem.'

Speaker claims that “the Israeli hard right government has a mandate” and “they're gonna try to ethnically cleanse Gaza,” describing an effort to remove “2,500,000 people from there.” He says there is “a mandate to seek justice and revenge” and that “there is they this idea that they need to have a true truce or a peace treaty, that's morally crap after you see women and children be burned alive and dragged to the streets.” He cites pattern recognition—“COVID, Maui fires, Epstein”—and says the country is a fortress, with the Gaza border where “you cannot go 10 feet without running into a 19 year old with an a r 15 or an automatic machine gun that is an IDF soldier,” and that “the whole country is surveilled.” He adds that “the last nine months, Israel is on the brink of civil war,” with protests against Netanyahu, who now has “an emergency government and a mandate to lead.” He asks, “Was there a stand down order?”