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Speaker 0: "it's a military operation, calling out that Tyler wasn't on the roof, that he didn't take that shot, that he was involved in this, that he was dumping clothing, that this has a full intelligence, full scale military operation written all over it." "Shit stinks to high heaven," and "false flag attack is imminent, guaranteed to take place on our gov in our on USA." Speaker 1: "I actually believe that this was a military hit that involved foreign actors and also literal actors." "That day ran something akin to JFK's assassination." "there were therefore multiple decoys on the ground." "four decoys, like George Zinn, staircase guy, maroon shirt guy, and lozy center guy." "Lance Twiggs is the one that is walking in that maroon shirt." "Tyler Robinson was involved, and he was in fact driving around campus on that day, therefore assisting in the costume changes, likely picking up clothing." "Tyler was seen at Dairy Queen." "Dumping clothing in the cemetery beside that Dairy Queen." "That was his job, to get rid of clothing."

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The odds of George Zinn being at 09:11 and seeing the planes hit the building, being at the Boston Marathon bombing and getting arrested, and being at the Charlie Kirk assassination and getting arrested are very similar to what you're about to watch in this next video. A man gets hit by lightning twice, survives a shark tack, and then drives his truck through a tornado, gets rolled by the tornado, and drives away unscathed. From all attacks, all the same guy. That would be similar odds to this. Watch as a truck is flipped by a twister. Look at that. But then it's blown right side up. The person in that truck just drives away.

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Speaker 0: On behalf of every single American citizen, we're thinking exactly what Morgan Ariel is tweeting. She goes by at its morgan ariel on X, gives her girl a follow. She's off the hook. She says, what in the actual f? Is it very possible that Tyler Robinson was never on the roof the day of the Charlie Kirk assassination? At FBI director Kesh Patel, we want answers and we want them now. So remember the magic TMZ video? What do you notice about this dude spreading across the college campus right here? Right after the assassination. He looks awful familiar to the dude that the TMZ video gave us, didn't they? Let me turn the camera around and show you this a little closer. Okay. So we literally have this man that's right after the Charlie Kirk assassination. He's sprinting across the campus. When you zoom in on that dude, looks really familiar. Hat, same. Let me actually pull that one up a little bit bigger. So we’ve got his hat here the same, maroon shirt, light dark shorts, light shoes. Maroon shirt, dark shirt, light shoes, hats almost identical. Eye freaking identical, isn't it? And, actually, I can make that a little bit better for you guys. Check this out. There you go. Looks really weird, doesn't it? Looks oh, oh my gosh. Identical. Right? Are we just getting lucky, or is that the exact same person? Because it sure as shit looks like the exact same person. I don't know about you guys, but this entire investigation just thinks like shit. The only people who are literally still believing the FBI's narrative is Jack Wasellbick, now Stephen Gardner and Benny Johnson and the rest of the goon squad over at DP USA. Us Americans, anybody that has a brain, anybody that's able to logically think for themselves, looks at all the evidence the FBI has presented and says that's a load of shit. This kid is never gonna make it to a trial. We're never gonna see those videos. They're gonna Epstein his ass. They're gonna rig this trial. Call it what you wanna call it. They're gonna probably come out with some geolocation data and try to convince you that he was on the roof right when they kill him and they slide him out the back door. He ends up over in Israel sipping pina coladas with Epstein. Drop those comments below. Let me know what you think. My name is Ryan Matta. We out. Peace.

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The discussion centers on Charlie Kirk and the handling of his death. The speakers are uncertain about the official account and call for a truly rigorous and honest federal investigation. Specific points raised include: - A claim that Canada said Egyptian-registered aircraft followed Charlie Kirk’s widow, Erika Kirk, around for years in various places; the speaker asserts this is factually true and notes it is a very strange data point, though its meaning is unclear. - A claim that Erika Kirk’s event had a disproportionately large number of foreign-registered cell phones, which is also stated as true. - The speakers emphasize that the FBI has a moral and legal obligation to investigate openly and to consider all possibilities, applying the same process as in science, journalism, and law enforcement. They express a lack of confidence in the FBI and the officials who run it, and argue that honesty and a coherent narrative are needed to restore public trust. - Foreknowledge of the incident is discussed: posts on X allegedly predicted that Charlie Kirk would be killed on the date of the college event in Utah. The question is raised about whether those posts were just guessing and whether those involved have been interviewed by the FBI to determine how they knew what they knew. - The speakers compare the investigation to other events, suggesting that if they investigated, they would examine who publicly posted foreknowledge and seek detailed explanations: who they spoke to, what they know, and how to verify it. - There is a request for an explanation of how the killer transformed into a radical, violent actor, with a note that the speaker does not automatically endorse trans ideologies but wants to understand the radicalization process. - The speakers discuss Candace Owens’ role: the controversy and turmoil surrounding her claims, and the idea that those in authority are responsible for the investigation, not individuals like Candace or podcasters. - A concluding sentiment expresses greater trust in Candace Owens’ intent than in the average DOJ official, framing Candace’s presence as filling a vacuum left by authorities, while insisting that the people in charge must restore confidence through honest reporting and a plausible narrative.

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Speaker 0 claims to have explosive, verifiable information that can publicly challenge the Zionist-occupied Trump administration to deny it if untrue. They urge Kash Patel to deny the claim if it is false, noting that the information is highly relevant. They credit Mel, who they say was early with the reporting, and say they had heard rumors but sought verifiable proof before going on the limb to assert authenticity. The core assertion is that there were 12 Israeli cell phones on the ground at Utah Valley University on the day Charlie Kirk was assassinated. The speaker clarifies that these were not VPNs routed through Israel, but 12 personal cell phone accounts opened in Israel. They claim these accounts were on the ground at Utah Valley University on September 10, the day Charlie Kirk was shot. The speaker states that the NSA knows this, Kash Patel knows this, and people in the current administration know that too, and are desperate to keep the information from the public. They question why the administration would want to suppress the information and why it would spook those at the top, suggesting that if there is nothing to hide, there would be nothing to hide. To anticipate counterarguments, the speaker plays devil’s advocate, noting that perhaps the cell phones belonged to exchange students or Israelis touring UVU that day, or that 12 American students had Israeli-based cell phones after returning from a summer abroad and wished to keep them running in Utah. They acknowledge they do not know the answer and express a desire to know, emphasizing the need to uncover why this information is being concealed and who those 12 Israeli cell phones belonged to. Throughout, the speaker refrains from evaluating the claims’ truth and simply presents the asserted facts and questions, urging accountability and transparency regarding the supposed Israeli cell phone presence and its connection to Charlie Kirk’s assassination. They close by reiterating their dislike of secrets, especially when they pertain to the public figure’s death.

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Speaker 0 posits a theory that there were state actors or foreign intelligence agencies involved in the assassination of Charlie Kirk, and attributes this belief to Benny Johnson, describing Johnson as “the anarchist” who told him so, and invites viewers to “check this clip out.” Speaker 1 responds by acknowledging that there is reason for people to believe this could be a professional hit job. They reference John Salmond as an excellent reporter and Steven Crowder as having access to leaked information. They state, “there is some considerable evidence that there were state actors involved here,” and emphasize their close connection to Charlie Kirk and his team, asserting that this is what they wish to relay to the audience. Speaker 0 returns to challenge Benny, asking which specific element changed his mind and led him to conclude that Tyler Robinson is now not a lone actor, and that state-level or foreign intelligence agencies were not involved in the assassination. He enumerates several potential clues: a text message from Lance Twiggs, similarities between Tyler Robinson’s photo and the jail mugshot, the speed at which Tyler Robinson was able to sprint, and the “man of steel” autopsy claim that Charlie Kirk stopped a 30-06 with his neck. He then asks which of these factors was decisive in shifting Benny’s belief away from the involvement of state actors, and expresses intent to wait for Benny’s answer.

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Tyler Robinson didn't kill Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's Israeli security detail killed Charlie Kirk, and Charlie Kirk's assassin is caught on tape. That is the explosion from Charlie Kirk's lavalier lapel mic. First, we had exploding pagers. Now we have exploding mics. Remember the vector analysis from John Bray? That proves that all of the activity came from the mic that Charlie Kirk was wearing. Remember the palm gun guy in the brown shirt, that shadowy looking guy with the sunglasses? Yeah. He pushes the detonator. That's the assassin. We have video now from Destiny that shows the handoff of this remote detonator. John Cullen on the program last week, and he made a great point about ballistic acoustics being altered to hide the location of the real shooter.

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"And just last night, the suspect was taken into custody at 10PM local time in less than thirty six hours, 30 three to be precise." "For thirty three hours, I was I was praying that that if this had to happen here, that it wouldn't be one of us." "This thing is not commercial at all. It is most likely a surveillance drone and someone was flying it over the campus for a particular reason." "The main suspect in Kirk's killing is now Tyler Robinson and he is in custody." "This translates to approximately one in 2,000,000,000." "The FBI agents didn't even bother to show him the photos of the shooter for twelve hours." "Yes. Yes. So when he's first spotted on campus, he has different clothing on," "Look folks, it's very easy to just believe whatever we're being told, but we cannot afford to do that anymore."

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After Charlie Kirk was shot, the speaker notes the arrest of a little old man named George Zinn in DC and anchors on July 20 as pivotal, with coincidences around that date. He cites searches for Tempanogos Regional Hospital in Utah, questions about whether Kirk had an autopsy, and Utah medical examiner Deidra Amaro; an IP address originating in Israel is said to have accessed Amaro’s name and Utah figures Bo Mason (appointed July 17) and Matab Syed, later replaced by Robert Bowles. The speaker highlights a Bombardier Global 6,500 with tail number November1098Lima that flew near Orem at 204 feet on the day of Kirk's death and again 25 minutes later; Israel-origin IPs also searched Hunter Kozak and several Surgeons at Tempanogos Regional Hospital (examples include Steven Neelman, Robert Patterson). He urges investigators to check VPNs and IP tracks.

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- Conspiracy claim: George Zinn, the Patsy arrested at the Charlie Kirk assassination, also saw 09/11, described planes hitting the towers, and called in a fake terrorist attack at the Boston Marathon bombing, and happened to be arrested at Charlie Kirk's event. - Tess Keyser response: Tess Keyser responded that Grock is a guy really involved in all three events like this post claims. - Grock's assessment: Grock says there is no credible evidence of involvement in 9/11's false flag or Kirk's death or Massaad ties; George Sin was a 9/11 witness and described planes hitting towers; he was arrested in 2013 for a bomb-threat joke. - Main suspect: The main suspect in Kirk's killing is now Tyler Robinson, and he is in custody. - Probability: Combined probability is equal to point seven zeros, 5% or five times 10 to the power of eight. That translates to approximately one in 2,000,000,000. - Does all of that seem normal to you?

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People are arguing that Charlie Kirk's assassination might be fake. 'this is a necklace and not some bulletproof vest.' 'You popped a squib, bro. He did.' 'the blood pack was fully emptied' and 'no blood hitting the concrete.' 'Now this blood that is supposedly coming out, this blood is is cleaned cleaned up, it's oxygenized and it's headed for the brain.' 'This is the magic of cinema. With a special tool filled with red liquid and remote controlled mini explosives, the effects of blood and gunshot wounds are made to look real.' 'This is a 100% production.' 'hired help.' 'a female filming' standing like a statue to film it all as well. 'these Freemasons, Charlie, he's a Freemason.' 'They do it all the time, constantly.' 'false flag.' 'Charlie is a good actor.'

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Three myths are claimed about Charlie Kirk’s assassination. Myth 1: there is no exit wound. The official story says Charlie was shot with a 30-06 caliber round from a Mauser model 98 bolt-action rifle; the round entering at the base of the skull on the right and exiting the left side of his neck, with the body absorbing the round. Visual and audio evidence are said to contradict this, rendering the myth. Myth 2: Tyler Robinson is the killer. If the weapon and caliber are wrong, a rifle with DNA on a towel becomes irrelevant; Robinson has not confessed, but retyped text messages are cited; he was never seen holding the weapon. Myth 3: there is no evidence it was Israel. Taber and Zinn are Jewish; Shaffer group from Israel; Netanyahu’s obsession; a private jet transponder-off near the shooting; NSA detected Israeli signatures; FBI-ADL ties.

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Conspiracy claims circulated about George Zinn, with statements like: "George Zinn, the patsy that was arrested at the Charlie Kirk assassination, also saw nine 11. He saw the planes fly into the buildings and called that in and reported it. And then he also called in a fake terrorist attack at the Boston Marathon bombing and just so happened to get arrested at Charlie Kirk's event." Tess Keyser replies, "Grock is a guy really involved in all three events like this post claims." Grock states: "based on review of multiple sources, George Zinn was a witness to the nine eleven attacks, and he described seeing planes hit the towers. He was also arrested in 2013 for emailing a bomb threat joke to the Salt Lake City Marathon... He pled guilty to a terrorism charge and somehow magically only received probation." He adds, "there is no credible evidence that supports claims of his involvement in nine eleven's false flag facilitating Kirk's death or Mossad ties." The main suspect is "Tyler Robinson" and "he is in custody." A calculation notes: "Combined probability... equal to point seven zeros 5% or five times 10 to the power of eight... approximately one in two billion." On the Kirk shooting, claims include: "the guy's on the roof, takes the shot, disassembles the gun, stuffs it into his backpack and his pants, flees the scene, reassembles the gun, puts it in a box, and then drops it in the forest." References to "thirty three hours," numerology (33, 47, 11), Freemasons, the United Nations logo, and the line "It's all scripted. It's all an act. The world is a stage, and you are all falling for all of it." Also: custody timing statements like: "the suspect was taken into custody at 10PM local time in less than thirty six hours, thirty three to be precise."

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- "Robinson didn't kill Charlie Kirk." - "Charlie Kirk's Israeli security detail killed Charlie Kirk and Charlie Kirk's assassin is caught on tape." - "That is the explosion from Charlie Kirk's lavalier lapel mic." - "First we had exploding pagers, now we have exploding mics." - "That proves that all of the activity came from the mic that Charlie Kirk was wearing." - "That's the assassin." - "This guy, brown shirt guy, he's the assassin." - "He pushes the detonator." - "We have video now from destiny that shows the handoff of this remote detonator." - "Tyler Robinson did not kill Charlie Kirk." - "If you want security, the Israelis know what they're doing." - "But in no way did that trigger man, that assassin, the brown shirt with the sunglasses act alone."

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The clip centers on Skyler, a man seen in multiple interviews right after the Charlie Kirk assassination. The presenters highlight that Skyler appeared in about four online interviews, and he’s pictured with sunglasses on top of his head behind Charlie’s head. They note that the day Charlie Kirk was shot, Skyler was front row to witness it, and in the interviews he never claims to be press or someone important, yet he sits on the Main Floor at the Charlie Kirk Memorial. They question how this is possible and point to oddities in his interviews. In one sequence, Skyler is described as being only about 10 to 15 feet away when it happened, with security to his left and nothing else in front of him—“Close as he could.” They show Skyler and Charlie’s bodyguard moving to a different area once Charlie arrives and questions begin. Skyler is described as front row and center, with the bodyguard directly in front of Charlie and Skyler off to the side with sunglasses on his head. The footage is contrasted with his Facebook activity, which the speakers examine afterward. They state that at the memorial service Skyler was “sitting on the Main Floor” with a floor pass for a press conference, seated literally “maybe 10 or so rows from the front of the stage.” They contrast this with Skyler’s Facebook page, noting that he has “two point, I think, k followings,” and that from 2018 to 02/2025 there are “maybe seven posts and like 10 pictures.” The presenters remark that there is little material on his page, suggesting a discrepancy between his apparent access and his online footprint. Further, the speakers recount Skyler’s account of entering the stadium. He says, “There is an unlimited amount of security, Secret service, military, police, empty. Steel barricades all around. Yeah. They’re definitely protecting this place,” and adds that there had been “an overflow,” with people waiting since 05:30 in the morning. Yet Skyler ends up with a floor pass and sits just a few rows back on the Main Floor with a badge that says media, prompting the question: “How?” They describe how another person explained the process of passing through multiple layers to obtain a media badge and access the floor. The discussion turns speculative: Skyler “was handpicked to do all these interviews,” to have “front row” seating, and to be present at key moments. The dialogue then shifts to a series of unusual videos by Skyler, described as “bizarre.” One clip contains a speaker describing an “indecision night” where they say, “I photoshopped in my mind the blood away,” “I rewound the tape,” and “the shooter… goes down the stairs,” with continued vivid, fantastical editing of the event.

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Speaker discusses the alleged Charlie Kirk shooter, Tyler j Robinson, age 22. On SoundCloud, there was a song called Charlie Kirk dead at 31 published in Ogden, Utah about a month ago. Tyler j Robinson, 22; Ogden, Utah; they say he's from Washington, Utah, and he drove to Utah Valley University, about three and a half hours. Trump said that it was about a thirty three hour manhunt. Notice the numbers. Then a flight that turned off its radar, and then you find out who it's backed by. Something's kinda connected here. Then I decided to look up Israeli assassinations, and this is quite a rabbit hole. It's been going on since the nineteen fifties. They paid Gentiles to do things. And some people might say there's no proof, but somehow Wikipedia, this goes on and on. Gets deeper with Rothschilds etc. Question everything, my friends. I love you.

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Speaker asserts that 'Israel killed Charlie Kirk' and rejects influencer denials. They claim a plane 'left the airport... for forty five minutes' and then headed away, 'owned it? A big time rich Jewish donor.' Benjamin Netanyahu is described as nervous, with 'No. No. We didn't do this.' It was 'the Islamist, the extremist, just like he did nine eleven.' They add 'Guess who did nine eleven?' Benjamin Netanyahu. The shooter claim: 'the rifle was in his pants' and 'the scope back on' after; 'the gun they planted... was not the gun' and 'the scope was mounted too far back to even shoot it.' They call the shooter a 'professional shooter' hired by Israel at '140 yards.' 'Candice Owens said that on her show.' The speaker argues Kirk was waking up to these things and was afraid Israel would kill him, and they did.

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"Charlie Kirk's assassination has deleted evidence that Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson haven't mentioned once." "This guy told the cops to arrest him so the shooter could have more time to get away." "This guy was deployed for 09/11, deployed against Obama, for George Bush, and personally worked with senators and US congressmen." "And he personally admitted it, and they wiped everything, but I downloaded it just before. George Zinn," "These donors like Manafort, Berman, Ronald Weiser, they manipulate elections, create countries, and have personally admitted to taking money from all of these countries." "Zinn, the patsy, is an example of an actor they use." "I have a full twenty seven minute video going over exactly what happened, why people like Candace Owens might be lying to you, and the archive podcast link in bio."

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Tyler Robinson didn't kill Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk's Israeli security detail killed Charlie Kirk, and Charlie Kirk's assassin is caught on tape. That is the explosion from Charlie Kirk's lavalier mic. Remember when we told you that that was absolutely an exit wound? Check the trajectory of the round that was deployed from that lavalier lapel mic. That went directly from Charlie Kirk's lapel, that went directly from underneath Charlie Kirk's white t shirt up through his neck and created the exit wound. First, we had exploding pagers. Now we have exploding mics. Remember the vector analysis from John Bray? That proves that all of the activity came from the mic that Charlie Kirk was wearing. That palm gun guy in the brown shirt... He pushes the detonator. That's the assassin. Tyler Robinson did not kill Charlie Kirk. This guy, brown shirt guy, he's the assassin.

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On behalf of every single American citizen, we’re all thinking exactly what Morgan Ariel is tweeting. She goes by at itsmorganariel on X, gives her girl a follow. She says, what in the actual f? Is it very possible that Tyler Robinson was never on the roof the day of the Charlie Kirk assassination? At FBI director Kesh Patel, we want answers and we want them now. Remember the magic TMZ video? What do you notice about this dude spreading across the college campus right here? Right after the assassination. He looks awfully familiar to the dude that the TMZ video gave us, didn’t they? Let me turn the camera around and show you this a little closer. So we literally have this man that’s right after the Charlie Kirk assassination. He’s sprinting across the campus. When you zoom in on that dude, looks really familiar. Hat, same. Let me pull that one up a little bit bigger. So we’ve got his hat here, the same maroon shirt, light/dark shorts, light shoes. Maroon shirt, dark shirt, light shoes, hats almost identical. Eye freaking identical, isn’t it? And, actually, I can make that a little bit better for you guys. Check this out. There you go. Looks really weird, doesn’t it? Looks oh, oh my gosh. Identical. Right? Are we just getting lucky, or is that the exact same person? Because it sure as shit looks like the exact same person. I don’t know about you guys, but this entire investigation just thinks like shit. The only people are literally still believing the FBI’s narrative is Jack Wasellbick, now Stephen Gardner and Benny Johnson and the rest of the goon squad over at DP USA. Us Americans, anybody that has a brain, anybody that’s able to logically think for themselves, looks at all the evidence the FBI has presented and says that’s a load of shit. This kid is never gonna make it to a trial. We’re never gonna see those videos. They’re gonna Epstein his ass. They’re gonna rig this trial. Call it what you wanna call it. They’re gonna probably come out with some geolocation data and try to convince you that he was on the roof right when they kill him and they slide him out the back door. He ends up over in Israel sipping pina coladas with Epstein. Drop those comments below. Let me know what you think. My name is Ryan Matta. We out. Peace.

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Discussion centers on claims about the Charlie Kirk assassination, including a side shot. The presenter says "there's now a shooter on the roof" and an eyewitness states the shooter was "wearing tactical gear" and described "the exact type of weapon... a two two three round." A bystander video shows "somebody on the roof" and the eyewitness asserts the shooter was "highly trained, like a highly trained assassin" and that the footage's metadata "begins at 12:22 and goes into 12/23, the very minute that Charlie gets shot." The speaker adds the shooter "looked like a foreign agent" and "not jeans." Another claim: "the FBI's official story is false" with video of an "entry and exit wound," though another participant says "it's not blood splatter. That's literally his necklace getting snapped off and flying over the back of his neck." The discussion concludes with "Cash should resign."

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The discussion references a 33-hour timeline and mentions Luigi Magione, the Sonor brothers in the Boston bombing, the Centennial bomber Eric Rudolph, and Ted Kaczynski. "Thirty three hours, two hours after the video footage was enhanced and released, the suspect's father turned him in, and you got criticized for doing that, and I'm having a hard time understanding what people's expectations are." "I just heard them say the active shooter, Charlie Kirk, has been shot." "Well, somebody has fabricated a monstrous big lie thatIsrael had something to do with Charlie Kirk's horrific murder." "This is the courtyard where it all happened. It's now open to the public again." "And I just found out I'm retarded. It's true."

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"Right after the Charlie Kirk shooting, an elderly George Zinn started shouting that he was the shooter and later told police that he did so in order to distract them from the real shooter." "This is the same George Zinn who was featured in a nine eleven memorial video even though he wasn't there and didn't know anyone who was." "A man named Tyler was arrested as the suspected shooter." "Tyler's nickname is the executioner." "Solving the riddle of the Charlie Kirk SIOP will do nothing to stop the genocide of the Palestinian people, which is an extremely important agenda for the US government." "Greg Reese reporting. The Reiss report is now fully funded by my Substack subscribers. Subscribe today and support my work at gregreese.substack.com."

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Conspiracy claim: George Zinn, the Patsy arrested at the Charlie Kirk assassination, also saw 09/11, called that in, and called in a fake terrorist attack at the Boston Marathon bombing. Tess Keyser responded to this tweet and she says, Grock is a guy really involved in all three events like this post claims. Grock states, "based on a review of multiple sources, George Sin was a witness to the nine eleven attacks, and he described seeing planes hit the towers. He was also arrested in 2013 for emailing a bomb threat joke to the Salt Lake City Marathon shortly after the Boston bombing. He pled guilty to a terrorism charge and somehow magically only received probation. He was also detained and questioned as a person of interest at the Charlie Kirk assassination on 09/10/2025, but released without charges relating to the shooting." Grock adds, "there is no credible evidence that supports claims of his involvement in nine eleven's false flag facilitating Kirk's death or massaad ties." The main suspect in Kirk's killing is Tyler Robinson, and he is in custody. The combined probability is "point seven zeros, 5%" or five times 10 to the power of eight, translating to "approximately one in 2,000,000,000." Does all of that seem normal to you?

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'Had Enough Of His Hatred': Charlie Kirk Shooter Charged
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Charlie's Kirk shooting anchors the episode as a Utah court formally charges Tyler James Robinson with aggravated murder in connection with the September 10 incident. The charging document identifies Kirk as the target and states Robinson knowingly created a great risk of death to others while selecting Kirk because of his political expression. A key exchange with Robinson and his roommate shows him insisting, I had enough of his hatred, and outlining plans to retrieve a rifle. Investigators say the plan spanned about a week, with notes about hiding evidence and leaving no trace, including references to a rifle nicknamed 'grandpa's rifle' and a weapon named 'Prince'. A lot of the episode then wrestles with motive and the social context. The charging document highlights a victim-targeting enhancement, and the roommate conversations reveal a fixation on Kirk’s rhetoric. Hosts push three potential motives: nihilistic notoriety, inner ideological fealty, or a response to perceived leftward targets, ultimately arguing the discussion centers on cultural politics rather than a simple ideological alignment. Steve Bannon questions the authenticity of the alleged text messages as too scripted, while Ezra Klein’s framing of Kirk’s work as nonviolent political engagement becomes a focal point for debates about how to respond to political violence. The conversation also touches how Gen Z communication styles—texting in real time, public Discord notes, and ‘UWU’ jokes—complicate interpretation of intent. Separately, the program flags ancillary threads around the Kirk case. A figure named George Zinn, who publicly claimed responsibility and later faced new charges, was charged with four counts of sexual exploitation of a minor and obstruction related to the probe; investigators say he admitted he could be a distraction and that FBI reviewed his phone. The hosts note a note found under a roommate’s keyboard stating, I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk, and discuss where that note is now. There is ongoing curiosity about surveillance footage and how cameras may have caught movements around the rooftop and other crucial moments. Beyond the Kirk case, the episode surveys Gaza coverage, a UN genocide determination, and labor actions like a Genoa port strike tied to aid. It notes tech consolidation as Ellison-led media ownership shifts loom over TikTok.
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