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The speaker compliments the president on his shirt and mentions that Trump won. They ask the president what he plans to do to stop the war in Ukraine once he becomes the 47th president. The president responds by saying that he would start by calling two people: Putin and Zelensky. He would arrange a meeting and guarantee that he could work out a deal. The president mentions that he knows exactly what he would say to each person and that a deal would be made within 24 hours.

The speakers discuss the involvement of Klitschko in the government and the need to keep moderate Democrats together. They agree that Klitschko should stay out and focus on his political work, while Yatsenyuk should be the main figure with support from Taniybook. They plan to set up a call with Klitschko to discuss this. They also mention a meeting with the big three and the possibility of a three-way conversation. They discuss the UN's involvement and the need to stick together against Russian interference. They mention concerns about Russian forces gaining control of Ukrainian biological research facilities. They believe any biological or chemical attack in Ukraine would be orchestrated by the Russians.

Speaker 0 informs Speaker 1 about a new development regarding the UN guy, Robert Seri. Both Saree and Ban Ki Moon have agreed that Saree could come in on Monday or Tuesday, which would be beneficial to the situation. Speaker 1 agrees and expresses the need to make sure the plan sticks together, as the Russians may try to sabotage it. Speaker 1 mentions a party of regions faction meeting and suggests getting someone with an international personality to help. They also discuss the need for outreach to Yanukovych. Speaker 0 mentions that Biden is willing to help and suggests regrouping the next day to see how things progress. Speaker 1 expresses gratitude.

I met with Zelensky this morning and advised him to remain grateful and positive, promising to discuss security guarantees later. However, the meeting was a complete disaster, and I question whether Americans will still see him favorably. Based on what I witnessed, most Americans, including myself, wouldn't want Zelenskyy as a business partner. I spoke with President Trump last night, and he was optimistic about reaching a ceasefire and ending the war. I am proud of President Trump for showing the world not to trifle with him. However, Zelenskyy seemed to try and bait Trump in the Oval Office. JD was awesome.

The speakers discuss the involvement of Klitschko in the government and the need to keep moderate Democrats together. They agree that Klitschko should stay out and focus on his political work. They also mention the importance of Yats having regular communication with Klitschko and Tani book. They discuss setting up a call with Klitschko as the next step. They mention a meeting with the big three and the possibility of a 3 plus 1 or 3 plus 2 conversation. They mention the UN's involvement in the situation and express the desire for the UN to help resolve the situation, disregarding the EU.

The speakers discuss the role of Klitschko in the government and the need to keep the moderate Democrats united. Speaker 0 believes Klitschko should not join the government, while Speaker 1 agrees and suggests that Klitschko should focus on his political work outside the government. They also mention the importance of Yatsenyuk, who has the necessary experience, and suggest regular communication with him and Tony Book. Speaker 0 suggests setting up a call with Klitschko, but Speaker 1 believes Klitschko may take time to join the meeting with the others. They agree that reaching out to Klitschko directly would help manage the dynamics and allow for faster progress.

Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss Klitschko piece as complicated electron, especially the announcement of him as deputy prime minister. 'I don't think cleats should go into the government. I don't think it's necessary. I don't think it's a good idea.' They debate keeping moderate Democrats together, with Yadze or Yatzenyuk as governing figure; 'He's the guy you know, what he needs is Klitsch and Tani Book on the outside.' 'Klitschko going in, he's gonna be at that level working for Yatzenyuk.' They consider reaching out to Klitschko directly to move fast and manage personality among the three, and to set up a 'three plus one conversation or three plus two with you.' Jeff Feltman mentions Robert Seri and that Seri could come in Monday or Tuesday with Ban Ki Moon's agreement; 'fuck the EU' as aim. They worry Russians will torpedo; plan outreach to Yanukovych; Biden's involvement: 'Biden's willing.'

The speakers discuss the involvement of Klitschko, Yatsenyuk ("Yat"), and Tani Book in forming a government. One speaker believes Klitschko should remain outside the government to do his "political homework," while Yatsenyuk should lead with Klitschko and Tani Book offering support. They plan a call with Klitschko to manage personalities and move quickly. The speakers mention UN involvement, with Robert Seri potentially coming in to help "glue this thing" together, and express a dismissive attitude towards the EU. They anticipate Russian interference and the need for international support. Biden is willing to offer encouragement ("attaboy") to help solidify the agreement.

So, we just had a very intense meeting between President Trump, Vice President Vance, and Zelensky. Vance suggested diplomacy for peace, but Zelensky quickly shot that down, bringing up a past broken deal with Putin, and questioned what kind of diplomacy Vance was even talking about. Vance responded by mentioning that Zelensky was being disrespectful. Trump then intervened, telling Zelensky not to dictate how they should feel, pointing out Ukraine's weak position and the risk of gambling with World War III. I made it clear that my alignment is with the United States and the world's well-being. I need to be able to negotiate without the kind of hatred Zelensky has for Putin, which makes reaching a deal difficult. I reminded everyone that without the United States, Ukraine has no leverage.

Let's move quickly and try to get the jelly setup going. I'll focus on Klitschko. We should aim to get someone with an international profile to support this. We also need to consider reaching out to Yanukovych, but let's hold off until tomorrow to see how things develop. Regarding that, Sullivan got back to me saying we need Biden involved. I suggested tomorrow would be good for encouragement and to solidify the details. Biden is on board.

Speaker 0 suggests that the UN should help unite the situation, while expressing a negative view towards the EU. Speaker 1 agrees and mentions the need to prevent the Russians from sabotaging the situation. They discuss the current political dynamics and the possibility of success if they act quickly. Speaker 0 plans to work on Klitschko and suggests bringing in someone with international influence. They also mention the need to reach out to Yanukovych. Speaker 1 mentions that Biden is willing to help.

Speaker 1 believes Klitschko's role is crucial, suggesting a call to discuss his position. Speaker 0 opposes Klitschko joining the government, preferring Yatsenyuk to lead with Klitsch and Tanibok outside. They plan a call with Klitschko. Yatsenyuk will propose a meeting with the "big 3" and UN involvement to unite the factions.

The conversation involves Victoria Nuland, a top US diplomat for Europe, and US ambassador to Ukraine, Jeff Pyatt. They discussed UN involvement to "glue" the situation, along with the EU. Since 1991, the US has invested over $5 billion in Ukraine to build democratic skills and institutions, promote civic participation and good governance, and help Ukraine achieve its European aspirations. The US is interested in Ukraine because protesters want closer ties to Europe, not Russia. The US has historically fought to prevent a relationship between Germany and Russia, fearing their combined power. The US fears German technology and capital combined with Russian natural resources and manpower.

US officials are discussing events in Ukraine, including brokering a future government with UN involvement. Private diplomatic conversations are common, but public statements reflect US government positions. There are differing opinions on including certain individuals in the government. Discussions are ongoing about the best approach moving forward.

Speaker 1 believes "we're in play," but Klitschko is a complication, especially with his Deputy Prime Minister announcement. Speaker 0 agrees Klitschko shouldn't be in the government, suggesting he stay out and focus on political work. Speaker 0 believes Yatseniuk has the necessary experience and needs Klitschko and TinyBook on the outside, communicating with him regularly. Speaker 1 will reach out to Klitschko to talk before or after their meeting. Speaker 0 mentions that Jeff Feldman secured UN involvement with Robert Seri and Ban Ki Moon agreeing Seri could come in Monday or Tuesday to "help glue this thing and fuck the EU." Speaker 1 agrees on the need to "make it stick together" due to potential Russian interference. Speaker 1 will work on Klitschko and suggests international outreach to midwife the situation, along with regrouping on Yanukovych outreach. Speaker 0 adds that Biden is willing to give an "attaboy" tomorrow.

Speaker 0: "You know there is concern from the Europeans that president Zelensky is going to be bullied into signing something away." "That’s why you have these European leaders coming as backup tomorrow." Speaker 1: "It isn't. ... They're not coming here tomorrow to keep Zelenskyy from being bullied." He adds: "We've had one meeting with Putin and, like, a dozen meetings with Zelensky." "We've been working with these people for weeks." "They're coming here tomorrow because they chose to come here tomorrow." He notes "there was enough progress" to "move to the next phase" and "enough movement to justify a follow-up meeting with Zelensky and the Europeans." On sanctions, he says: "If peace is not gonna be possible here... the president has that option to then come in and impose new sanctions. But if he did this now, ... that's the end of the talks." "We wanna wind up with a peace deal that ends this war" and "It will require both sides to make concessions."

Nuland suggested contacting Klitschko directly, while also mentioning involving the United Nations for a political solution. The audio of this conversation was notably clear. During a visit to Independence Square in Kiev in December, Nuland and Payatt distributed food to protesters and police. This incident is embarrassing for the U.S. and gives Russia grounds to claim that the opposition is being manipulated by Washington, a claim that Barack Obama has consistently denied. The clip reportedly surfaced online, allegedly posted by the Russian deputy PM, though this has not been confirmed.

In this conversation, dated February 18, 2015, Poroshenko seems to admit that Shokin did nothing wrong but was forced to resign at Biden's request. The call starts with some technical difficulties, but they eventually connect. Poroshenko expresses his happiness and mentions positive and negative news. He then informs Biden that he met with the general who is facing corruption charges, but they don't have any information about him doing something wrong. Poroshenko specifically asked the general about this.

The discussion centers on how US officials handle diplomacy publicly and privately, particularly in relation to Ukraine. Speaker 0 notes that US officials talk about world issues because that's part of diplomatic work, and mentions that the secretary met with the opposition and stopped by a meeting with the foreign minister. He says it’s up to the people of Ukraine, including officials from both sides, to determine the path forward, but indicates that there should be no surprise that discussions about events on the ground are taking place. Speaker 1 counters that this is more than discussions, describing it as “two top US officials that are on the ground discussing a plan that they have to broker a future government and bringing officials from the UN to kind of seal the deal.” They suggest this signals that the US is “midwifing the process,” not merely offering suggestions, and imply private diplomacy is aiming to shape a post-conflict outcome with UN involvement. Speaker 0 acknowledges that private diplomatic conversations happen and involve deliberations about what involvement the UN can have and what engagement should occur on the ground. He says such discussions shouldn’t be surprising and that there is a range of options under consideration, including private interagency process discussions and what is conveyed publicly as US policy. Speaker 2 challenges this by arguing it’s not honest to claim there is no opinion and that the process is entirely up to the people of Ukraine. They point to Egypt as a counterexample, asserting that there is a public stance that differs from private discussions. Speaker 0 distinguishes between private conversations within the interagency process and what is publicly conveyed as US policy. He asserts a responsibility to convey the government’s position while also noting that a range of options are being discussed. Speaker 1 presses the distinction further, asking what happens behind closed doors when private deals are discussed versus publicly stating that the decision lies with Ukrainians. They emphasize the perceived difference between privately “cooking up a deal” and publicly acknowledging Ukrainian decision-making. Speaker 0 concludes by saying they would disagree with Speaker 1, arguing that they are overstating and overqualifying a few minutes of a privately recorded phone call.

Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss the role of Klitschko in the government, with Speaker 1 arguing against him joining, believing Yatseniuk is better suited for leadership with Klitschko and Tani Book on the outside. Speaker 1 thinks Yatseniuk needs to be talking to Klitschko and Tani Book four times a week. Speaker 1 mentions Seri and Blanquemun agreeing that Seri could come in Monday or Tuesday to help glue things together, adding "fuck the EU." Speaker 2 claims the US government cannot control Foboda and the right sector, stating these armed groups see the crisis as an opportunity to reshape Ukraine. The speaker references a video of right sector leader Alexander Musichko brandishing an AK 47 in parliament.

US officials are involved in discussions regarding Ukraine, with plans to broker a future government. Private diplomatic conversations are common, including talks about UN involvement. There is a disagreement over public versus private statements on US involvement in Ukraine. Additionally, there are discussions about the roles of key political figures like Klitschko in the government. The focus is on maintaining unity among moderate Democrats and strategizing for the future. Plans for further conversations and meetings are being considered.

US officials are involved in discussions about Ukraine, including potential government formation. Private diplomatic conversations are common, with the US considering various options. There is debate about Klitschko's role in the government, with concerns about keeping moderate Democrats united. The focus is on maintaining communication with key figures to navigate the political landscape.

I met with the opposition and the foreign minister this weekend. It's up to the Ukrainian people to decide the path forward, but discussions are happening. These are more than discussions. Top US officials are on the ground, discussing a plan to broker a future government, involving the UN. The US is midwifing the process. These are private diplomatic conversations where we discuss UN involvement. It's dishonest to say we don't have an opinion. There's a difference between private discussions and our public position. As diplomats, we discuss a range of options. Saying privately you're cooking up a deal, then saying publicly it's up to Ukrainians, those are different positions. Diplomatic discussions are sensitive, but those are totally different positions. You're overstating a private phone call.

In February 2014, the US actively worked to overthrow Yanukovych. You can hear this in the phone call between Victoria Nuland and US Ambassador Peter Piatt. It's fascinating. In the call, I mentioned that Klitschko shouldn't be in the government, it's not necessary or a good idea. Yatseniuk is the right person because of his economic and governing experience. Also, "fuck the EU." We need to do something to make this situation better.

The speakers discuss the role of Klitschko in the government and the need to keep moderate Democrats together. Speaker 0 believes Klitschko should not go into the government, while Speaker 1 agrees and suggests Klitschko should stay out and focus on his political work. They also mention the importance of Yats, who has economic and governing experience, and the need for him to communicate with Klitschko and Tani book regularly. Speaker 0 suggests setting up a call with Klitschko, but Speaker 1 believes Klitschko may take time to show up for a meeting. They agree that reaching out to Klitschko directly would help manage the dynamics among the three individuals.