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Speaker 0: Were I a Jew, I would be a Zionist. And my father pointed out to me, I did not need to be a Jew to be a Zionist, for I am. Israel is essential to security of Jews worldwide. Speaker 1: That this is not theoretical. This is not just about things that happen on Twitter. Antisemitism kills. Hate kills. Speaker 2: I come before you not only as The United States Secretary of State, but also as a Jew. My grandfather, Maurice Blinken, fled pogroms in Russia. My stepfather, Samuel Pizar, survived concentration camps, Auschwitz, Dachau, Maidanic. Speaker 3: We have a common agenda to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons and preventing Iran's aggression, maintaining the security and prosperity of this region, and seeking to expand the circle of peace. Speaker 4: On October 7, Hamas terrorists murdered nearly 1,200 people, including over 40 Americans, and kidnapped hundreds of civilians. They perpetrated the deadliest massacre of Jews since the Holocaust. Speaker 5: Holocaust. Holocaust. My grandfather fled Nazi Germany. Fled Nazi Germany. If we wanna create peace in the Middle East, resolve the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians, we don't need boycotts. We need business. We don't need divestment. We need investment. We don't need sanctions. We need startups. We need startups. They met with several Israeli companies looking to expand into The United States. Speaker 1: Actual, literal, no shit, Jews will not replace us anti Semites as very fine people. Speaker 6: I support Israel's ability to defend itself. Speaker 7: It's about time we stop those of us who support as most of us do, Israel and this body for apologizing for our support for Israel. There's no apology to be made. None. It is the best $3,000,000,000 investment we make. $3,000,000,000 investment we make. Speaker 8: two of us were brought together by Apex Education Foundation for a mission to Israel. We hear the call of our Jewish brothers and sisters. Israel was this place I had always felt an, I don't know, unexplainable pull. Speaker 5: And the Jewish people have been the recipients of boycotts for hundreds, if not thousands of years. Speaker 6: So I just had a frank and constructive meeting with prime minister Netanyahu. I told him that I will always ensure that Israel is able to defend itself, including from Iran and Iran backed militias such as Hamas and Hezbollah. Speaker 3: Israelis do not need to be lectured about the importance of peace by foreign leaders. Speaker 9: Why does Israel need our help? We need to get out of their way. Speaker 6: I've said it many times, but it bears repeating. Israel has a right to defend itself. Speaker 2: The message that I bring to Israel is this. You may be strong enough on your own to defend yourself, but as long as America exists, you will never ever have to. We will always be there by your side. Speaker 1: He is a friend of the Jewish people by aligning not even with Israel, but with a certain kind of politics within Israel. And I just think that the American Jewish community are a lot smarter than that. Speaker 7: And even suggested breaking from the long standing US policies on settlements. Jerusalem. Jerusalem. Speaker 9: I was one of the few in congress that said it's none of our business, and Israel should take care of themselves. Speaker 8: Perhaps he does not know that I am the child of a holocaust survivor. Perhaps he does not know that my mother lost almost all her family at the hands of the Nazis. At the hands of the Nazis. Speaker 9: Israel has 200, 300 nuclear missiles, they can take care of themselves. Why should we commit? We don't even have a treaty with Israel. We don't even have a treaty with Israel. Speaker 7: Were there not an Israel, The United States Of America would have to invent an Israel to protect her interest in the region. Speaker 9: Why why do we have this automatic commitment that we're gonna send our kids and send our money endlessly, to to Israel?

Speaker 1's initial reaction to the October 7th Hamas attack was disbelief and prayer, anticipating a disastrous Israeli revenge. During a November 9th rally, an unaffiliated individual yelled "death to Jews." Speaker 1 confronted the person, stating they didn't represent the group and then addressed the crowd, condemning the statement as antisemitic. Speaker 1 believes antisemitism is unjust. The speaker stated that the fight for Palestinian freedom and the fight against antisemitism are interconnected, because injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.

The speaker, a former Israeli pilot, speaks out against the ongoing war crimes committed by Israel. They highlight the lack of knowledge among Israeli children about Palestine and the ongoing oppression. After realizing their involvement in these crimes, they organized other pilots to publicly refuse to participate. As a result, they were fired from their jobs and faced challenges due to their support for the Palestinian struggle. They also advocate for the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement and criticize Israel as an apartheid state, labeling their government and military commanders as war criminals.

The discussion opens with Speaker 0 noting that the first foreign visit by a New York City mayor is significant and asks where each candidate would go first. Speaker 1 (Cuomo) replies, “First visit, I would visit The Holy Land.” Speaker 2, addressing hostility and antisemitism in New York, adds, “Given the hostility and the antisemitism that has been shown in New York, I would go to Israel.” Speaker 0 then directs the question to Speaker 2 (Tilson). Tilson responds, “Yeah. I’d make my fourth trip to Israel followed by my fifth trip to Ukraine, two of our greatest allies fighting on the front lines of the global war on terror.” Speaker 0 moves to Speaker 3 (Mamdani), who says, “I would stay in New York City. My plans are to address New Yorkers across the five boroughs and focus on that.” Speaker 4 interjects with a follow-up to Mamdani: “Mister Mamdani, can I just jump in? Would you visit Israel… as mayor?” Mamdani answers that as mayor, “I'll be doing as the mayor, I'll be standing up for Jewish New Yorkers, I'll be meeting them wherever they are across the five boroughs, whether that's in their synagogues and temples or at their homes or at the subway platform because, ultimately, we need to focus on delivering on their concerns.” The conversation then covers a direct question: “And just yes or no, do you believe in a Jewish state of Israel?” Mamdani replies, “I believe Israel has the right to exist.” Speaker 4 counters, “Not Israel. State?” Mamdani responds, “Notice. As a state with equal rights.” Speaker 1 presses Mamdani further, noting, “He won't he won't say it has a right to exist. Does a Jewish state be very clear?” Speaker 2 adds, “Answer was no. He won't visit Israel.” Mamdani claims, “I I said that That's what he was trying to say. No. Unlike you, I answered unlike you, I answered the question directly. Alright.” The conversation then shifts to Speaker 5, who shares a personal rationale: “My my goal would be to take my first trip to Israel. My wife's life work in this area means a lot to our family, and it could coincide with my young son, Miles, bar mitzvah, if you'd like to have his bar mitzvah.” Speaker 2 interjects briefly, “Okay. But” before the excerpt ends.

A Jewish person expresses feeling unsafe around friends who display Israeli flags, emphasizing the need for change within the Jewish community. They reject the belief that Jewish people have a rightful claim over Palestinian land and criticize the Israeli government. Another speaker calls for Israeli leaders to return the land to the indigenous population. A third speaker denies being a self-hating Jew and opposes the oppression of Palestinians, highlighting the negative impact of cutting off essential resources. They differentiate between Jewish people and the state of Israel, labeling the latter as an oppressor.

I am Rabbi Jacob Miller of Turcata International, a group of Jewish rabbis protesting the occupation in Gaza. Creating Israel by displacing others goes against Jewish law. Judaism is not the same as Zionism. Opposing Zionism is not anti-Semitic; it's about justice and peace. Jewish people worldwide seek a free Palestine, ceasefire, and end to occupation. We pray for peace in Palestine.

Speaker 0 frames the camera as part of the fight for Palestinian liberation and recalls a Gaza colleague saying, "I resign myself to Allah's will. Bombs, with American cover, with American tax money. They want us to take down our voices and use this." He adds, "They want us to just give up. But trust me, we are shattering their complacency. Israel's problem is the very existence of Palestinians. Yes. It's the very existence of us." He declares, "And we're not silent," and insists, "The time is now. Time is now. The pressure towards liberation starts with us." Speaker 1 recounts personal persecution: "Two weeks ago, I was assaulted by the Israel immigration authorities. I was the only black passenger on the Hondala. It's no coincidence that I was one of the last to be released from prison."

I'm here with a Jewish block marching for a free Palestine and justice. There's nothing that justifies the attacks on hospitals and the deaths of children in Gaza. I want to show other Jews that these marches aren't fueled by anti-Semitism. Palestinians have invited us to their homes and consider Jews and Muslims as brothers. If any Jew in London feels uneasy, I encourage them to join us wearing their kippas, as they will be met with nothing but love.

Abby Martin, a journalist and filmmaker, was asked to sign a contract pledging not to participate in boycotts against Israel before speaking at Georgia Southern University. Refusing to sign, she was subsequently canceled as a speaker. Abby has extensively reported on Palestine and Israeli violations of international law for over a decade. She believes that the US supports human rights abuses through its political, military, and economic aid to Israel. The BDS movement aims to pressure Israel to end these atrocities, similar to the anti-apartheid movement in South Africa. Abby's goal is to challenge the laws that violate her rights and the rights of other contractors in Georgia.

Speaker 1, a Jewish individual, expresses support for Palestine, emphasizing that standing with Palestine is not anti-Semitism. They condemn Israel's use of dehumanizing language and killing of civilians, calling it disgusting. They believe in a free and prosperous Palestine for all people. Another speaker adds that Jewish people also stand with Palestine, emphasizing that it is not about religion but about a nation being harmed by Zionists. They describe the situation as ethnic cleansing and a continuous Nakba. Gaza is referred to as a large concentration camp, with most people living in misery and destruction. The speaker calls for Gaza to be free and highlights Palestinians' right to self-determination and dignity. They express empathy towards the people in Gaza and thank those who stand for humanity.

Your Palestine pathway program includes two Israeli budget bills. If you truly support the Palestinian people's right to self-determination, how can you justify this? I come from Gaza, and it is a part of all of us. I apologize for expressing this, but I feel compelled to speak out. I am proud to be here and to discuss the ongoing situation in my city, which is unfolding every moment.

I am Anath Murad from Israel, speaking on behalf of the Jewish people. In Israel, we have a unique way of doing things, often blaming Palestinians for our own actions. We have a history of controversial incidents, like the bombing of the King David Hotel and the flotilla to Gaza. It's better for us if people remain ignorant about these events. On a personal note, my sister is considered crazy because she refuses to be a soldier.

I am here today to support the oppressed people and stand against the occupation. Israel, in my view, is a colonial apartheid genocidal state that does not represent Judaism. I was exploited when I was younger, living in Israel and learning the language. As I delved deeper, I realized the horror of this state exploiting our trauma from the Holocaust to oppress another people. They deserve the same rights as everyone else. I became aware of this in 2014 when I witnessed Israel's massacre in Gaza. Since then, I have separated my Jewish identity from this occupying fascist brutality. Today, I march with the Palestinians and support justice for all oppressed peoples. Thank you for speaking with me.

I am not pulling my perspective on Israel Palestine out of thin air. I have studied and researched this extensively. As a Jewish woman raised by a Zionist family, I have overcome my pro-Israel bias to see the viciousness and violence of the Zionist state. My interest in the conflict grew when friends returned from birthright trips and spoke negatively about Palestinians. I took multiple courses in college to gain a well-rounded understanding of Israeli-Palestinian politics, which solidified my pro-Palestine stance. The history of colonization and exploitation by Britain and the US led to the establishment of Israel on Palestinian land. The current leadership, like Benjamin Netanyahu, prioritizes wealth and military power over the well-being of Palestinians. Israel's actions constitute a genocide, slowly eroding the will of the Palestinian people while benefiting the primary stakeholders.

I will vote against any legislation that seeks to ban the use of boycott, disinvestment, and sanctions (BDS). BDS is a tool we can use to achieve justice for the Palestinian people. As the secretary of the National Union Journalist in Parliament, I speak on behalf of journalists. Last year, I attended the commemoration for Shareen Abu.

As a white Jewish person, the speaker is passionate about ending Zionism because it has negatively impacted their life. They have been actively working towards this goal for four years, even though they faced risks and lost relationships. They believe that Zionism is comparable to Nazism and refuse to support it, especially considering their own family's history with the Holocaust. This issue is deeply personal to them, and they have faced challenges and had to rebuild their identity as a result.

The speaker reflects that after twenty years of backing Israel, they have realized they were wrong and now condemn Israel’s actions in Gaza and the West Bank. They state they would like to withdraw support for those current actions. They affirm that hostages should be released and acknowledge Israel’s right to exist, as well as the right of the Israeli people and Jewish people to live in peace, while insisting that the Palestinian people also have the right to live in peace. They reiterate the belief that the life of a Palestinian child is as precious as the life of a Jewish child, asserting that the country has got it wrong. The speaker calls on the minister to stand up to the United States and to allied partners to make a strong stand for humanity, and to be on the right side of history. They urge for moral courage to lead rather than merely follow the United States, and to make a difference. The message emphasizes that everyone elected should stand up for life, extending protection and dignity to all children, not only Jewish children.

Speaker 0: "I'm very pro Israel" and "defensive of their right to defend themselves," but "I have absolutely no skin whatsoever in defending any lobbyist group, including AIPAC" and asks, "what they do to get the loyalty of politicians." She refuses outreach to visit Israel, wanting to "cover this conflict from here" and insisting she is not "on Hamas" side. Speaker 1: "'APAC is not registered under FARA' and explains lobbying tactics: taking freshmen on 'a very special trip to Israel,' inviting 'influencers,' and that Israel receives '3.8 billion dollars in funding for Israel.' He notes 'Israel is the only democracy in The Middle East' and says Israel can 'use that money to buy from Israeli defense contractors' instead of American ones. He cites Judge McFadden on flag-burning and says, 'We don't have time to fund what you're doing.' Ad: 'text m k to the number 989898.'

As an American Jew deeply involved in Judaism, I had a profound experience when I visited Palestinians in the West Bank. It reminded me of the Jim Crow South, witnessing people living without rights, citizenship, or freedom of movement. They endure a harsh military legal system. While I don't agree with Mifda, who supports violence, it's important to acknowledge what Ilhan Omar said: people should see the situation for themselves. I've never met anyone who hasn't been transformed by such an experience. It's similar to visiting SNCC during the civil rights movement and dismissing them based on connections or anti-white sentiments.

I am not pulling my perspective on Israel Palestine out of thin air. I have studied and researched this extensively. As a Jewish woman raised by a Zionist family, I have overcome my pro-Israel bias to see the viciousness and violence of the Zionist state. My college experience and coursework on Israeli-Palestinian politics further solidified my pro-Palestine stance. This conflict is not as complicated as people make it out to be. It stems from Britain and the US wanting to exploit Palestine for military labor and land colonization. The establishment of Israel was never intended as a gift for Jews, but rather a trap to exploit the land and its people. Israel's actions over the years amount to a genocide, slowly exhausting and harming the Palestinian population while benefiting the primary stakeholders.

Speaker 0 expresses disappointment in the actions of some Israeli civilians and praises Israel as a reliable ally and a tolerant society. The speaker mentions writing a book to address the lack of understanding among young people. They also mention suspending their donations to Columbia University until a change is seen, urging the university to fire a specific professor. The speaker concludes by stating that war is not good, but praising Hamas' actions is unacceptable.

I am not pulling my perspective on Israel Palestine out of thin air. I have studied and researched this extensively. As a Jewish woman raised by a Zionist family, I have overcome my pro-Israel bias to see the viciousness and violence of the Zionist state. In college, I took multiple courses on Israeli-Palestinian politics and the Middle East conflict, which solidified my pro-Palestine stance. The history of Palestine's colonization by Britain and the US, and the displacement of Palestinians for Jewish settlement, is clear. Israel's actions over the past 75 years can be described as a genocide, with the intention of exhausting and displacing the Palestinian population for the benefit of the primary stakeholders.

I'm Jewish and Israeli, and my parents survived Auschwitz during the Holocaust. I'm here with the Palestinians because I don't support the British government's arming and financing of Israel, which I see as supporting genocide. The media, including the BBC, is also complicit in this. Many people in Britain oppose this government's actions, including myself. This conflict didn't start recently; it began in 1948 when numerous Palestinian villages were destroyed, thousands of innocent Palestinians were killed, and hundreds of thousands became refugees. This violence has persisted ever since.

Speaker: The speaker begins by saying they used to be a Zionist and are a Holocaust survivor, noting that Zionism was very important for them as a salvation of the Jewish people until they discovered that the state was founded based on the extirpation, the explosion, and multiple massacres of the local population. They insist that this is not historically controversial. They urge taking a longer view to understand the present situation, and argue that the present occupation and the suppression of the Palestinians must not continue in order to move forward. They reference Sharon, mentioning a previous guest who spoke about fragile coexistence, and assert that there was no coexistence at all. The speaker describes oppression, periodic massacres, land occupation in the West Bank, and the continuous expulsion of the population from their homes. They recount visiting the occupied territories three times, including the first time during the first intifada when they cried every day for two weeks at what they witnessed. They state that this cannot go on. The speaker then references news about the algin marbles being returned and questions how the other person “changed your mind about that,” specifically regarding returning the land that’s been stolen from the Palestinians—clarifying they are not talking about the state of Israel, but about since 1967 and what is happening now. They insist that there must be some stop to what is happening, and frame this as being for the sake of both Israelis and Palestinians.

I am a Jewish person speaking out against the Israeli state's actions, alongside many others worldwide. We reject the portrayal of this as an Israel-Hamas war, seeing it as settler colonialism against Palestinians. Many young Jewish people are joining the movement for peace and justice, opposing arms sales and calling for an embargo. The media often sides with oppressors, but support for the oppressed is growing. To access alternative perspectives, consider supporting Double Down News on Patreon.