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Speaker 0 asserts that Nine-Eleven began as commercial insurance fraud and that in 1988 the Twin Towers were condemned because they did not want to pay to dismantle them, with controlled demolitions forbidden. He says Dick Cheney, as secretary of defense, responded, “praise the lord,” expecting a terrorism event to justify invading Iraq and Afghanistan. He claims Nine-Eleven was planned and executed by “the Zionists,” clarified as not the Jews, describing a “red mafia”—Russians, Israelis, and Americans—controlling Benjamin Netanyahu but not Donald Trump, who he says is biding his time. He contends the NSA is not about safety but keeping money moving, and that the program was canceled because it would reveal Americans complicit in Nine-Eleven. He alleges the intelligence community wastes money on bad actions, focusing only on war and terrorism, and that they start wars and fund terrorists. Speaker 1 recounts a group of Zionists negotiating with the Nazis to allow German Jews to immigrate and transfer assets to Palestine, citing the 1933 Transfer Agreement. He notes that German Jewish settlement in Palestine was Nazi policy for a time and references Der Angriff publishing photos of Jewish life in Palestine with a Nazi series; a medal by Gerbils commemorating this, showing a swastika and Star of David. He states Hitler demanded Zionists reject the call for a boycott of the Reich, which the Zionists conceded. Speaker 2 says some allies have been funding ISIS and Al Qaeda, asks who, implying Saudis and others, and notes that people know this but do not say it publicly. Speaker 3 explains that CIA, Mossad, and intelligence agencies are unnamed but suggests Mossad is under the prime minister’s office and would be called the Israeli Secret Intelligence Service, joking that initials would be ISIS. Speaker 7 makes a snide remark about Julian Maxwell’s father being an Israeli super spy, and Speaker 5 references “antiseptic, Jenny.” Speaker 8 discusses building a relationship with some unspecified actors and acknowledges a trust deficit; he recalls the U.S. support of fighters in Afghanistan against the Soviets, arming mujahideen with Stinger missiles, and leaving them after the Soviet withdrawal, admitting the U.S. helped create the next problems. He notes a pattern of moving in and out of Pakistan, emphasizing that the current fight involves people funded two decades earlier. Speaker 3 adds details about Brzezinski’s 1980s effort to arm the mujahideen while concealing U.S. involvement, speaking warmly of the fighters and their cause. Speaker 4/Speaker 10 discuss a 2017 plan to push against Russia, portraying the fight as against Putin rather than the Russian people, with commitments to inform the American public of Afghan bravery and to support the effort against Putin; Speaker 10 expresses confidence in winning and receiving support. Speaker 11 shifts to the U.S., asking about the assassination of Osama bin Laden in Pakistan; Speaker 12 responds that bin Laden was trained by the ISI and CIA along with Al Qaeda two decades earlier, stating that these groups were assets of the Pakistan Army and the ISI. Overall, the transcript presents a series of unverified conspiracy claims about 9/11, Zionist influence, NSA motives, Nazi-Zionist interactions, international funding of extremist groups, and U.S. covert actions in Afghanistan/Pakistan, interwoven with insinuations about intelligence agencies and state actors.

We contributed to the problem we're currently facing. When the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan, we decided to help by training and arming Mujahideen fighters in Pakistan. This plan worked, and the Soviets eventually left Afghanistan. However, we then left these well-equipped and fanatical fighters behind, causing a messy situation. It's ironic that the same people we supported in the past are now our adversaries.

The speaker questions the claim that a CNN reporter easily interviewed Osama bin Laden, while the U.S. intelligence community with vast resources has failed to locate him for years. He suggests this is because the CIA created, recruited, and trained bin Laden to fight the Soviet Union in Afghanistan, and now uses him as a boogeyman to bring about world government after Saddam Hussein was neutralized. He believes any future attacks blamed on bin Laden are a social engineering project to manipulate public opinion and establish a one-world socialist totalitarian government. The speaker finds it unbelievable that Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols could recruit bin Laden to blow up the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. He asserts the CIA, NSA, and FBI are not trying to find bin Laden because he is their creation serving their purposes. The speaker suggests a terrible event will occur to regain public sympathy and blames the CIA, FBI, and NSA for being unable to locate bin Laden while CNN can.

The transcript weaves together a compilation of statements and reporting surrounding the 9/11 attacks, Israeli involvement rumors, and related investigations. - Benjamin Netanyahu reportedly said September has been good for Israel, claiming, “we're benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon and the American struggle in Iraq.” - CNN reported (and later acknowledged as false) a tape in which Osama bin Laden told his mother that something big was about to happen; bin Laden had consistently denied involvement in 9/11 and claimed Zionists were behind the attacks. Reports from Japanese, Chinese, and Indian outlets claimed bin Laden was killed in Afghanistan in 2001 and buried in an unmarked grave by his own men. There are claims from the Muslim world and some European figures that Zionist extremists staged the 9/11 attacks to ignite terrorism. - A commentator asserted that the war has targeted Israel’s Muslim enemies and is being fought and paid for with American blood, lives, and tax dollars. - A speaker argued that bin Laden, regardless of who committed the attacks, comes back to the Middle East, and urged the United States to dismantle the entire “evil empire of terrorism,” warning that without doing so, the terror network could develop nuclear capabilities and threaten the United States and its allies. - Observers described a lack of apparent shock among certain people in connection with the events, noting unusual behavior or reactions. - Five men arrested in a van were later identified as Israeli, with some connections to Israeli intelligence; they were turned over to the FBI. National security databases showed some of the men had prior Israeli intelligence or counterterrorism experience, and one admitted serving in an Israeli army anti-terrorist unit and refused a lie detector test for an extended period. A speaker emphasized loyalty to country when discussing military service. - Fox News and others reported that up to 140 Israelis had been detained prior to September 11 in an ongoing, broad investigation into suspected espionage by Israelis in the United States. Government documents described hundreds of incidents across U.S. cities that investigators said could indicate organized intelligence gathering. The “country A” in a General Accounting Office document was said to be Israel, described as conducting aggressive espionage against the U.S. despite being an ally, with Israel possessing substantial resources to achieve its collection objectives. - Investigators questioned the possibility that some Israeli agents had advanced knowledge of the attacks, suggesting there is explosive but not necessarily conclusive evidence when aggregated. A recurring theme was the question of how such agents could have known, given the events. - Allegations of foreknowledge included claims that Israeli agents were forewarned and filmed the event on Israeli television. Some individuals detained or questioned described their presence in Israel as journalists or documenters. The broader question centered on whether Israelis gathered intelligence in advance and whether it was shared or withheld. - The transcript also recounts the failure to account for certain details (e.g., passport survivals, disappearance of voice recorders) as well as assertions that anthrax letters, later linked to a U.S. Army lab, were used to deflect blame toward Muslims. - Two accounts describe a white Chevy van linked to Urban Moving Systems, a moving company whose employees were alleged to have connections to Israeli intelligence. The FBI issued a nationwide alert about the van, and two suspects were reported in custody after explosives were found in a vehicle near the George Washington Bridge. CBS reported that two suspects were in FBI custody and that the truck contained enough explosives to damage the bridge, with some accounts noting a prior alert about a van on the way to destroy the bridge. - Overall, the material presents a network of claims and investigations involving alleged Israeli espionage, foreknowledge of 9/11, intelligence operations in the United States, and specific incidents surrounding the George Washington Bridge and related arrests.

The goal is to use Afghanistan to launder money from the US and European tax bases through a transnational security army, rather than to conquer the country. This creates an ongoing war, not a victorious one.

Robert O’Neill and the interviewer discuss the Maduro operation in Venezuela and the Bin Laden raid, comparing the two missions, the forces involved, and the broader implications for U.S. military capabilities and geopolitics. - The Maduro operation differed sharply from the Bin Laden raid in scope and risk. The Maduro mission involved an army base in Venezuela (their Pentagon) and a target in a house with a safe room. Chinese and Russian involvement and the presence of advanced air defenses complicated planning. The operation used a “gorilla package” with about 150 aircraft, whereas the Bin Laden raid used fewer assets and was characterized by a tighter ground package. The Maduro operation allowed for no-kill options and contingencies, but still entailed high risk; the Bin Laden raid was described as a one-way mission with a different risk profile. - The Maduro mission emphasized rapid execution, with the aim of capturing the president, his wife, and returning them to the United States within about 24 hours. The discussion highlights a distinction between kill options under the Venezuela operation and capture-focused goals for Maduro. - In contrast, the Bin Laden mission involved a ground assault with SEAL Team Six and an intense, fast breach. The initial breach attempts faced a crash of a helicopter, forcing adjustments, but the team proceeded to clear the house, enter the target, and locate Bin Laden. O’Neill described the movement through the compound as methodical: “If the guy in front of me went left, I went right,” continuing until Bin Laden was found and killed. - On the day of Bin Laden’s death, there were no casualties among U.S. operators on the ground; the operation produced an extensive recovery of material, including external hard drives, computers, disks, opium, and other items. The raid revealed Bin Laden was “running the whole thing from Pakistan,” raising questions about ISI knowledge and cross-border links. - The two tier-one units, Delta Force and SEAL Team Six, are both elite but have different primary focuses and traditions. Delta Force is described as older, largely Army-based, with emphasis on hostage rescue on land or in aircraft, and a selection that allows entry for those who prove themselves. SEAL Team Six is portrayed as capable across domains but with primary strength on maritime operations (e.g., the Captain Phillips raid). The discussion notes that both units share high standards for counterterrorism and special operations, and both have strong track records. - Operational differences in training and approach are highlighted. Delta’s emphasis on close-quarters battle and air operations is compared with SEAL Team Six’s maritime emphasis, yet both units are said to perform similar work in practice. Admiral William McRaven is credited with supporting and enabling SEAL Team Six and Delta to operate successfully during the Bin Laden and Maduro operations. The guest emphasizes that both teams perform with high effectiveness, noting the pilots as “unsung heroes” for their precise timing and reliability (plus or minus seconds). - The interview touches on the conditions and contingencies of planning: compartmentalization is discussed, with a preference for sharing enough information with operators on target to perform effectively, while preserving sensitive intelligence to prevent leaks. The Maduro operation allegedly involved strong inside information from Venezuelan sources, with a broader strategy that included leveraging internal actors who might seek power. - Leaks and doxxing are a recurring theme. The hosts discuss the ethics and consequences of releasing names or details about operators involved in these missions. Seth Harp’s reporting on the Maduro raid and the doxxing debate is discussed; the guest argues that doxxing can endanger families and operational security, while also acknowledging the journalist’s desire to be first. - The role of the helicopters and the risk of enemy fire are addressed. A Chinook helicopter was hit during Maduro, but did not crash; the squad subsequently extracted, illustrating the danger and resilience of mission planning. The Bin Laden raid included a helicopter crash incident that required a quick, adaptive response from the team. - The interviewee comments on geopolitical ramifications and future targets. The possibility of Iran being next is discussed; the guest argues that operations against Iran could be possible but would require careful political and strategic consideration and public messaging. The discussion also touches on perceptions of Russia and China, containment strategies, and the importance of democratic governance versus autocratic models in global affairs. - Final reflections include the evolution of the next generation of operators. The guest expresses optimism about the Gen Z cohorts in special operations, emphasizing merit-based selection, resilience, and morale. He concludes with gratitude for the teams involved and notes the personal impact of these operations on his life and career.

In the 1980s, the United States supported the freedom fighters in Afghanistan, including Osama bin Laden. We funded them because we believed they hated the Russians more than us. However, once they defeated the Russians, they turned against us. This has been a recurring problem in our foreign policy, regardless of political party. We have seen these weapons come back to threaten Israel, and the support for Syrian rebels has also posed a threat. The War Caucus in Congress armed bin Laden and the Mujahideen against the Soviet Union, which was the official position of our State Department. It is clear that this strategy did not work out well.

Before Saddam Hussein, Osama bin Laden became a new threat after the Gulf War. However, the speaker claims that if they were the head of the CIA, they would have captured or killed bin Laden within two weeks. They mention a CNN reporter who supposedly interviewed bin Laden in his secret hideout, but the speaker dismisses it as false and calls anyone who believes it foolish. The speaker warns not to trust any future events blamed on bin Laden.

Al Qaeda is present in New York, not in Afghanistan or Iraq. The terrorists who attacked New York were not trained in those countries; they operated from here, having taken off from JFK Airport. The actions were orchestrated locally. Regarding Iraq, there was no training or preparation there either. The discussion shifts to a past event, mentioning a visit that coincided with a significant death, implying a connection, though it’s stated that it had nothing to do with the visit.

I teamed up with Sarah Adams and Scott Bannon to interview Ahmad Massoud, leader of the Northern Alliance resisting the Taliban. After the Taliban took control, they began issuing legitimate passports to terrorists, including Hamza bin Laden, who is marrying into various terrorist networks. These groups now share a common goal of attacking the Western world. They're funneling terrorists through South America into the U.S., and there's no way to track how many have entered. I believe this situation is by design, with the government allowing a porous border for political gain, prioritizing votes over safety. They may not fully grasp the consequences of their actions, but unrest seems to be a tactic they’ve used before.

We have a history of involvement in Pakistan, particularly during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. To counter this, we funded the mujahideen, collaborating with the Pakistani military and ISI. This effort, supported by President Reagan and Congress, ultimately contributed to the Soviet Union's retreat and collapse. However, after achieving this goal, we distanced ourselves from Pakistan, leaving them to manage the consequences of our actions, such as leftover weapons and mines. We imposed sanctions and ceased military cooperation, leading to a significant gap in our relationship with Pakistan, which we are now trying to address.

Al Qaeda is in New York. Bin Laden committed a heinous act. The terrorists who hit New York are not from Afghanistan. They did not take off from Iraq or Afghanistan. They flew from JFK Airport in New York. The whole action was done here, and they were trained here. They were not trained in Iraq or in Afghanistan. The speaker stated, "We came, we saw, he died," and when asked if it had anything to do with his visit, he responded, "No. I'm sure it did."

The speaker explains that the US funded the Mujahideen in Afghanistan 20 years ago to fight against the Soviet Union. They imported fighters from Saudi Arabia and other places to defeat the Soviets, which eventually led to their retreat and the collapse of the Soviet Union. However, after the Soviets left, the US distanced itself from Pakistan and the Mujahideen, leaving behind a mess. The speaker acknowledges that the US helped create the problem they are now fighting, as the people they supported against the Soviets are the same ones they are fighting today.

Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss the presence and influence of the Taliban within government and international circles, and the U.S. approach to engagement. Speaker 1 suggests that while there may not be overt Taliban infiltration as a formal party, there are lobbyists, supporters, and Taliban in neckties and suits in Washington, pointing to the speech of the U.S. special envoy to Afghanistan, Thomas West, as evidence of whitewashing the Taliban. Speaker 0 counters that the U.S. is in regular, productive dialogue with the Taliban, and believes the Taliban are sincere but frustrated. He notes that no sanctions have been passed against the Taliban since last August, that four Americans have returned, but several remain in Taliban custody. He also highlights that the U.S. has backed the shipment of hundreds of millions of dollars in cash into the country since August, and claims it is actually over $1,000,000,000. Speaker 0 states that the U.S. has cooperated with the Taliban on certain discrete issues, including closing roads and managing crowds to prevent terrorist disruption, and that he has had a series of engagements with senior Taliban leaders. When asked about returning to Afghanistan to meet with the Taliban, he says, “The sooner, the better,” noting that the Taliban want sanctions relief, development aid, and a big seat at the table. He mentions an announced plan to pump in another $308,000,000, and describes mechanisms that are getting hundreds of millions of dollars in cash directly into the banking system. The Taliban purportedly want to seat their permanent representative in New York. ISIS-K is described as a common enemy, with the Taliban maintaining a vigorous and robust effort against it. He asserts that, despite concerns, they are building productive relationships and an honest dialogue with Taliban members, while acknowledging the priority of countering ISIS-K. He references the Doha agreement breach by the Taliban in sheltering Ayman al-Zawahiri in downtown Kabul, which he characterizes as unacceptable and a major breach, and states that even after this event, the U.S. is prepared to engage pragmatically with the Taliban regarding terrorism concerns. Speaker 1 adds that the UN and World Bank are developing a humanitarian exchange facility to move more Afghans into the system, noting that many banknotes have circulated for over ten years and are not accepted by shops or the central bank. He mentions a private-sector arrangement in Europe facilitating the shipment of hundreds of millions in cash into private banks in Afghanistan, with money going to the Afghanistan International Bank (AIB), which allegedly lacks authority to convert dollars to Afghanis and to auction them, and then passes funds to the Taliban-controlled Central Bank of Afghanistan. He asks who is in charge of the Central Bank, identifying Nur Ahmad Ora as the head, described as sanctioned by the U.S. for financing IED attacks that killed American soldiers. He concludes that diplomacy with the Taliban is essential to achieve objectives and asks whether there are Taliban in elections, asserting that they hold official offices and are present, urging the listener to review their statements to determine if they are Taliban sympathizers or whitewashing the Taliban. The conversation ends with Speaker 0 remarking, “Man, that's scary.”

ISIS and Taliban are enemies fighting each other. The speaker questioned why the US should intervene, suggesting they should let them fight as both are enemies. The generals disagreed and ended up fighting both groups, which the speaker found to be crazy.

According to reports, Iran is said to shelter Al Qaeda fighters in Mashhad and Zebul. The speaker questions why Iraq was chosen as the first target for intervention instead of Syria or Iran. The other speaker argues that the connection lies in the fact that both Iraq and the Taliban harbor terrorists and support terrorism. They believe that the focus should be on preventing future attacks rather than directly linking Iraq to September 11th. The speaker suggests that Iran, with its satellite dishes and internet access, could be influenced through media exposure. They argue that removing Saddam Hussein's regime in Iraq would have positive effects on the region, inspiring change in neighboring countries like Iran. The speaker believes that military force and winning victories are crucial in the war on terror.

In Islamabad, protests are taking place following the killing of Osama bin Laden by US Navy SEALs. The atmosphere in the city is different from the rest of the country, as Islamabad feels secure due to the heavy military presence. However, many Pakistanis feel disenfranchised by their government and the military. The presence of bin Laden in Pakistan for several years has caused people to question the authorities' credibility and ability to protect the country. The situation is becoming destabilizing, similar to the Arab Spring. There is a lack of trust in those in power, and people are demanding change. The naming and shaming of the head of the CIA operation in Pakistan creates a dangerous situation for Western presence in the region. The future is uncertain, and the trust deficit between Pakistan and America is at its lowest.