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The CIA, initially created to combat communism, evolved under Allen Dulles into a group of assassins and a tool for American corporate power. They began using coups and disinformation campaigns within the US. The intelligence community has significant power to retaliate against those who challenge them, as Chuck Schumer warns. The media often unknowingly assists the CIA by publishing leaked information, a tactic employed since the 1970s. The CIA's major function is to disseminate propaganda and influence public opinion. They recruit journalists, including well-known figures, to control the stories that are introduced into the press.

The transcript argues that Alan Dulles is the man behind the CIA and is Swiss by descent, from the patrician Male Prevot family of Geneva, with ties to the Male family and the Geneva patrician circles. It insists the CIA and OSS were run by the Male Prevot family and that they let only Swisses in on all key positions, claiming that the Geneva headquarters were controlled by this Swiss network. It states that in 1921 Dulles was posted to Bern, Switzerland by his uncle Secretary Lansing, becoming chief of intelligence at the American legation, where he was met by cousins from the Male family. The transcript asserts that Petit Dahl (Dulles’s relative) had married Julia Male Prevot, linking the Privost and Mallet families as powerful in international politics and finance, holding hereditary seats in Geneva’s Council of Two Hundred. This group, along with British royals, allegedly formed a joint committee of spymasters for the aristocracy dating back to the eighteenth century. The Male Prevot are also claimed to have injected the Scottish Rite of Masonry into the United States. By the mid-1920s, Dulles is said to have become the first secretary of the American embassy in Berlin and to have been a director of Schroderbank, which allegedly handled Hitler’s personal funds. The narrative emphasizes that these Swiss connections span from Geneva to Basel and Tessin, arguing they are a distinct group that controlled key positions in the U.S. and Europe. The transcript also contends that during the war a British ambassador to Switzerland named Victor Male was from the same family as the CIA “Dolls.” It claims Alain (Alan) Dulles, a lawyer, worked at the US embassy in Bern in 1917 and befriended Vladimir Lenin, who spent years in Switzerland before the Red Terror. It asserts that during World War II Dulles lived at Herngasse 23 in Bern as the Swiss Director of the OSS, surrounding himself with Nazi officials and facilitating the transfer of Nazis to the United States through OSS connections and Operation Paperclip. It claims Dulles represented IG Farben in America and worked for Schroderbank, describing him as Swiss rather than American, and asserts that Swiss people financed the Nazis and became filthy rich through these operations. The piece alleges a million Swiss Americans in the U.S. and that Octagon (a supposed group) dominates the Pentagon. It contends that after the war Dulles became the first civilian director of the CIA (1953–1961) under Eisenhower, with Swiss sleeper agents in top posts, and that his brother John Foster Dulles became Secretary of State. The transcript concludes that Kennedy eventually fired Alan Dulles, who allegedly remained involved in cover-ups via the Warren Commission, and that “the Huns” took over the White House and key intelligence positions. Speaker 1 echoes the conspiracy framing by calling for down with Octagon and Swiss banks, accusing them of robbing the poor, financing Adolf Hitler, and waging wars, and demanding freedom for the world and opposition to Swiss influence.

The discussion connects multiple individuals and organizations to alleged covert intelligence activity and influence over major events. It begins by referencing Robert F. Kennedy’s campaign and Teddy Kennedy’s chief counsel, then claims that attorney Jeffrey Blattner (executive chairman of HIAS) told Ted Kennedy not to run against incumbent Linda B. Johnson, after which Robert Kennedy ran anyway. The transcript then links Jules Kroll to Robert Kennedy’s campaign team and asserts that Jules Kroll is IDF unit 82,300 while Jeffrey Blattner is Mossad. It claims that in 1972 Jules Kroll and his wife Lynn Korda Kroll began a private intelligence operation called J. Kroll and Associates, which later became Kroll Incorporated and grew into a major private intelligence and investigative firm. The speaker says Kroll and K2 Intelligence are related “distinction without a difference,” and that Kroll worked for clients including the Vatican and Bernie Madoff, as well as being used in cases such as Harvey Weinstein investigations. The transcript also claims that the firm’s Tel Aviv spinoff later had a chief technology officer who was an IDF sergeant in unit 82,300, described as an Israeli signals intelligence equivalent to the NSA. The “plot” relevance is tied to the speaker’s claim that Kroll’s wife had a role in UJA Federation (United Jewish Appeal), and it expands into UJA Federation’s alleged connections to broader power networks. It identifies Larry Silverstein as former chairman of UJA Federation (1994–1997), describes him as connected to “old money” Jewish families and Mossad-related figures, and brings in Brian Michael Jenkins (described as deputy chairman of Kroll) and L. Paul Bremer. The transcript claims French intelligence suspected Jenkins and Bremer of promoting threat prevention strategies and then causing attacks when organizations didn’t adopt them. It further states that the New York Port Authority hired Kroll in 1993 to conduct a terrorism vulnerability threat analysis for the World Trade Center Plaza and that the report included a line item suggesting (it said) it was unlikely but possible that the towers could be vulnerable to being hit by jet airliners. The transcript then asserts the Port Authority hired Kroll to run security for the World Trade Center Plaza immediately after Jenkins’ report, and links that year to Larry Silverstein becoming president of UJA Federation. A Mossad whistleblower is introduced: Victor Ostrovsky. The transcript says Ostrovsky, after serving in the Israeli Defense Force beginning at age 14 and becoming a Mossad agent for fourteen months, became a “burn notice”/whistleblower and wrote two books: *By Way of Deception* and *The Other Side of Deception*. It claims the books’ content was managed to avoid “mass scale antisemitism,” and lists ADL (Jonathan Greenblatt), APAC, and UJA as entities said to be arms of Mossad, citing social media training claims and appointment/training activities mentioned in the transcript. The transcript then moves to post–September 11 financial and structural changes, asserting that Solomon Smith Barney (described as the largest tenant of World Trade Center Building 7) was “crashed” and consolidated, and it claims $2.3 trillion referenced by Donald Rumsfeld was consolidated among Morgan Stanley, Merrill Lynch, BlackRock, Blackstone, Apollo, and a little to Goldman Sachs. It states there were 3,800 Jews who worked in both towers and claims only four Jewish deaths were reported on 09/11, including Daniel Lewin (cofounder of Akamai) described as reportedly the first 9/11 casualty and said to be IDF. Additional claims focus on corporate ownership: the transcript asks who is the largest shareholder of BlackRock and asserts Merrill Lynch and Morgan Stanley ownership (with Merrill Lynch said to own 45%), and it links BlackRock’s founding to Steven Schwarzman of Blackstone, and Rob Capito as UJA Federation. It further asserts connections among Blackstone, BlackRock, Apollo Global Management, Larry Silverstein, and James Tisch, alongside Mark Rich (born Marcel Reich), and describes Mark Rich as having brokered deals involving Iran, Israel, and the Ayatollah through Mossad agents that allegedly reduced oil costs despite US sanctions. It then identifies Michael Chertoff as “second generation Mossad” and claims he coauthored the Patriot Act with provisions to protect Israel from future investigation, later appointing him as secretary of the Department of Homeland Security and later chairman of BAE Systems. The transcript claims Rumsfeld later chaired a pharmaceutical company (Eli Lilly) and sat on boards connected to Investor AB. The discussion culminates in claims about COVID-19: it introduces Alvin Krongard, alleging he controls conservative media, helped plan and cover up COVID, and made trades before September 11 and before related outcomes. It asserts that BlackRock’s Aladdin (and similar tools “In-Q-Tel” and “Lab 72/Lab 41”) was used to model pandemic impacts, and claims Avril Haines (described as working directly for Tony Blinken) was sent to “Event 201” to seize control of the global financial system. Finally, it asserts COVID was “calibrated” to affect certain populations through ACE2 receptor polymorphisms, and it connects Sergei Brin and 23andMe to access to patient DNA data used for calibration. The transcript ends mid-sentence as it continues discussing these claims.

During World War 2, the head of British intelligence sought friendship with the Americans. He approached the Rockefellers, offering access to UK espionage in exchange for financial support. The Rockefellers agreed and provided an entire floor at Rockefeller Center rent-free for the operation of the OSS, the precursor to the CIA. Alan Dulles and others were involved in this Rockefeller-backed organization. The CIA's roots can be traced back to the Rockefellers, who also held a strong disdain for organized labor. This information can be easily found online.

Adolf Hitler is described as “a Masonic puppet working for the British establishment.” The account says he was recruited into British intelligence in Vienna in 1908 by Houston Stewart Chamberlain, then groomed in Britain for the next five years by what later became Tavistock. Chamberlain is presented as a principal recruiter of spies in Vienna for British intelligence and one of Hitler’s main mentors. Greg Hallett, author of *Hitler was a British agent*, is cited saying Hitler spent nine months in 1912 being brainwashed and trained at a British military “Syobs war school” at Tavistock. The memoirs by Brigid Hitler manuscript accessed by historian Robert Payne in the early 1970s are said to support that Hitler was staying in Liverpool between 1912 and 1913. Hitler’s sister-in-law is described as saying that when Hitler arrived at her Liverpool home he was “completely wasted,” obsessively reading little German pamphlets, which Hallett calls Tavistock training manuals. Hitler’s own self-portrait is referenced as confirming his visit to Britain in 1910, depicting him on Clapper Bridge at Post Bridge near Tavistock. The transcript claims Hitler was surrounded and mentored by occultists including Dietrich Eckert, Theodor Fritsch, Lands von Liebenfelds, and Giedel von Liszt, and that he was part of the Tool Society—a cover name for the Munich branch of the Germanenorden/Teutonic Order—whose structure was based on Freemasonry. It further states that the founder Rudolf von Sybottendorf was a Freemason. A quoted statement from Dietrich Eckert is included, asserting he initiated Hitler into “the secret doctrine,” opened his “centers in vision,” and provided “the means to communicate with the powers.” The German Workers Party (DAP), which Hitler was installed into in 1919, is said to have been founded by Tool Society members. Alastair Crowley is cited as revealing, in an after-dinner conversation with Aldous Huxley in 1938, that Hitler was taking Mescaline and receiving oratory and rhetoric training by members of the Ordo Templi Orientis, identified as a Masonic order headed by someone affiliated with the head of that organization. The transcript claims that claims Hitler and the Nazis were anti-Masonic are propaganda, asserting that every senior Nazi was a Mason and that banning some lodges was intended to destroy evidence. Hitler is said to have been funded by the Bank of England, Federal Reserve, Standard Oil, Bank of Manhattan, Max Warburg, Bush, Herman, Schroeder, Alan Dulles, and other agents working for the British establishment. Hitler’s role is described as playing “the boogeyman” in a World War Two dialectic to help a globalist establishment advance world domination by persecuting millions, manufacturing Jew hatred, and facilitating the creation of Israel. Collaboration with Zionism is said to be confirmed by Gestapo records, and Hitler’s “Avar agreement” is said to have provided 60% of the funds toward Zionist occupation of Palestine between 1933 and 1939. The transcript concludes that if one opposes Israel but praises Hitler, then without Hitler “Israel probably wouldn’t even exist today.”

The discussion outlines a close relationship in Los Angeles between Israelis and the Jewish mafia. By 1949, Mickey Cohen’s personal rabbi was Menachem Begin, described as “the father of all terrorism.” The speakers assert that Cohen was the head of the LA mob, noting that while many people think the mafia was Italian, “a lot of the mafia was actually the head mafia bosses were Jewish,” and that “the mob was run by Jews,” with Italians running the local mob and Jews running the large-scale international syndicate. They identify Meyer Lansky as “the primary crime boss” and state he led from 1931 until the end of the 1970s. Lansky allegedly never went to prison, unlike others who did; he ran major blackmail operations, described as “the original Epstein,” and there is an assertion that he had blackmail on J. Edgar Hoover. They quote a sensational line about Hoover: “Hoover sucking what's his name? Sucking on the took by Tolson's dick.” The speakers claim Lansky went on the run in the 1970s when America chased him, went to Israel, and was denied entry, though he was given a travel visa to continue on the run. They admit they are not certain how Lansky’s story ended. The conversation emphasizes the interconnection between the CIA, the mafia, and Israel, stating that this relationship helped produce a broader, intertwined network: “the CIA and the mafia, and the Israelis,” with a claim that Kennedy was killed as a consequence of these relationships. They describe the global “inter interconnected” nature of the teams and suggest that one cannot separate the CIA, the mob, and Israel, pointing to the intersections involving Meyer Lansky.

The transcript traverses a panorama of alleged occult conspiracies surrounding secret societies, notably Freemasonry, the Illuminati, and Jesuit influence, linking historical figures to a hidden plan to control world events. It asserts that leaders like Alemni, Mazini, and their successors were formative in a covert framework that guides revolutions from behind the scenes. A central claim is that Mazzini wrote to his associate Doctor Bridenstain about forming “an association of brothers” that is secret even to the veterans and to those leading revolutions, a group responsible for manipulating world events from the shadows. The text then identifies Albert Pike as a later head of the Luciferian conspiracy, claiming he authored a letter to the Palladian Council dated 07/14/1889. This purported letter allegedly describes a doctrine in which “we worship God” is said to be a God “without superstition,” and asserts that “Lucifer is God” while Adonai (the Christian God) is the equal of Christ, with Jesus depicted as evil and Lucifer as good. The material further claims that the plan is to unleash nihilists and atheists to provoke a social cataclysm, culminating in the destruction of Christianity and atheism, followed by the restoration of “the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer.” The narrative connects this to Pike’s alleged plan for three world wars, including opening up Palestine, creating a state in Palestine, and then provoking an international war to redraw global power. The text references Ellen White (Evangelism, page 6,231) warning of powers from beneath working to bring about last-day drama, including deception by secret societies and confederacies. It cites Alastair Crowley (Edward Alexander Crowley) as an exemplar of the mind in the “spawn of the Jesuit order” and describes his alleged communication with an extraterrestrial being named Aiwass in 1904, resulting in the Book of the Law. It is claimed Crowley’s practice revealed “the royal secret of Masonry” concerning immortality through Tantric sex magic, alleging that some Masons use sexual perversion to access alternate universes and live forever by vampirizing children, a claim presented without qualifiers. The transcript then expands to post-Crowley influence, naming Timothy Leary as an illuminant of Thanateros and linking him to Crowley’s lineage, as well as L. Ron Hubbard and the beginnings of Scientology, Jack Parsons, Charles Manson, and the OTO network. It asserts connections to popular culture and literature, including references to Jimmy Page, David Bowie, Ozzy Osbourne, JK Rowling, Ian Fleming, and even the Beatles’ Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band, suggesting occult themes permeate modern culture. The discussion culminates with the assertion that occult doctrines fueled the 1960s counterculture and caused numerous devastating outcomes, asserting a continuing presence and influence of these secret traditions in contemporary society.

In the new Epstein files, Epstein claims to represent the Rothschilds and describes the 2014 CIA-backed coup in Kiev, Ukraine as a lucrative business opportunity, according to the newly released documents. He writes in an email to Peter Thiel of Palantir: “certainly not in Saudi. Just think I will avoid the Middle East for the next, decade or so. Should be back on the East Coast in late April or May sometime in New York City on an island.” He adds, “I represent the Rothschilds. I was hoping to figure out a way for the bank that has a 160,000,000,000 in it. Management can do something in tech, best clients in the world, prehistoric products, etcetera, etcetera.” Mel Kay notes that Epstein was “really laying it on thick for Peter Thiel.” Mel Kay argues that a supranational international banking cartel has run the country and the world since World War II, with a generational wealth circle that has persisted since the Federal Reserve. She notes that Ariana Rothschild was close with Epstein and says the revelations should trigger questions about the international banking system, especially the Bank for International Settlements (BIS), the IMF, and the World Bank, as well as the groups at the very top. She contends that immunity under the International Immunities Act of 1945—which created immunity from audit or legal action for BIS and the 63 banks beneath it—remains in place to this day, and she believes the answers lie there. She asks why Rothschilds’ names are not widely visible yet are cited as shaping global finance, and what the “160,000,000,000” bank refers to, asserting that all roads lead to BIS. Epstein’s documents allegedly include Ariana Rothschild stating that they funded Hitler, to which Epstein and Mel Kay respond, “Yes. So did we.” The discussion centers on infiltration versus invasion, questioning whether wars have been for profit and whether much of the narrative surrounding Ukraine involves manipulation for opportunities. The speakers discuss post–World War II manipulation, arguing that after the Dulles brothers, John Foster Dulles and Allen Dulles, took control of the state department, USAID, and the CIA, a tentacle of a supranational global public-private partnership and international banking cartel was created. They suggest that the CIA, MI6, Mossad, and other agencies are part of a single, overarching structure, asserting that the immunity and secrecy of these institutions enable ongoing manipulation of markets and political events, including the alleged influence over Ukraine and broader global strategies. The dialogue emphasizes that the contended system operates beyond allegiance to any single country.

The transcript references Mossad whistleblower Victor Ostrovsky, who started in the Israeli Defense Force at age 14, spent twenty years with the Mossad, and became a burn notice whistleblower who wrote two books: “hear the truth now. First one by way of deception” (described as respected from Israel to the rest of the world) and “the other side of this option, the rest of the world's perspective, but they left out.” It claims Mossad is “the most ruthless, aversive intelligence apparatus in the world. No close second, not even the CIA.” It states the second book covers how Mossad affected global governments, geopolitics, legislation, and policy on a global scale. It also asserts claims about influence over elections, saying “Candidates. One Israeli intelligence telling you they control your election.” It alleges the ADL trains every FBI agent at Quantico. The text mentions “NBC Halakaz Museum” and states that “Israeli intelligence [is] controlling the federal law enforcement.” It connects financial figures to conspiracy claims: “Apollo Global Management, chairman of UGA Federation Mark Rowen, Leon Black, long time Epstein, associate Josh Harris,” alleged to be behind the COVID murders while “assuming control of the financial markets.” It claims COVID was a replay of 9/11, stating that “Nothing discriminate planes into buildings, but this time more specific with who they targeted, white Europeans.” The speaker then repeats phrases like “They lift it up” and emphasizes urgency: “Wake up. Wake up. See the guns, they're moving. You need to understand the urgency and what time it really is.”

The transcript presents a narrative centered on Alan Dulles and a network of Swiss-origin families and organizations allegedly controlling major intelligence and political power. It asserts that Alan Dulles is the figure behind the CIA, connected to the Geneva patrician Male Prevot family, and that the CIA and OSS leadership were drawn from Swiss-descended lineages. The speaker claims Dulles lived in Bern, Switzerland for many years, is of Swiss descent, and that the Genevan Male Prevot family, along with the Mallets, were uniquely powerful in international politics and finance, holding hereditary seats in Geneva’s Council of Two Hundred. This group allegedly formed a joint committee of spymasters with the British monarchy dating back to the eighteenth century, and the Male Prevot were said to inject the Scottish Rite of Masonry into the United States. The narrative continues that in 1921 Dulles was posted to Bern by his uncle Secretary Lansing, becoming chief of intelligence in the American legation, where he was met by cousins from the Male family. It asserts Dulles, under the name Duhl, rose to be the first secretary of the American embassy in Berlin by the mid-1920s and served as a director of Schroderbank, which allegedly handled Hitler’s personal funds. The speaker emphasizes that these Swiss ties span from Geneva to Basel, to Tessin, insisting they are neither Italian, French, nor German but a distinct Swiss lineage. It is claimed that a British ambassador to Switzerland, Victor Male, belonged to the same family as Dulles. The account asserts that Lenin lived in Bern and that Dulles met Lenin there, describing them as friends who shared beers in Bern. It states that during World War II, Dulles was the Swiss Director of the OSS (the predecessor of the CIA), working in Bern at Herngasse 23, near Lenin’s residence, and that he had many German Nazi officers among his associates, including connections to the OSS and “Swiss Red Cross” figures who facilitated their entry into the United States and the CIA. The claim extends that Dulles represented IG Farben in America and worked for Schroderbank, portraying him as Swiss rather than American. The speaker asserts that after the war, Dulles became the first civilian director of the CIA (1953–1961), with a Swiss sleeper- agent-like influence under Eisenhower, and that his brother John Foster Dulles became Secretary of State, placing “the Huns” in key positions. The narrative then depicts the Cold War intensifying with aggressive actions in Korea and Vietnam, the use of biological warfare, and a broader view of Octagon as controlling the Pentagon. It claims Dulles was fired by John F. Kennedy, who faced repercussions from “Oktogon’s men,” and that the Warren Commission covered up the events, allowing Dulles to return to power. The closing statements call for opposing Octagon and Swiss banks, accusing them of financing Nazi Germany, widening the gap between rich and poor, and promoting war, while proclaiming “freedom for the world” and a denunciation of Switzerland and Octagon.

Rothschild began buying up land in Palestine in the late 1800s, funding infrastructure and funding schools. By 1917, the Rothschild banking cabal had strong influence over the British government and brokered a deal later known as the Balfour Declaration. Essentially, Rothschilds claimed the US would enter the war and aid the Allies, and in return, the British stated that a Jewish homeland would be established in Palestine. About thirty years later, the creation of the CIA emerged to control the region around Israel, followed by Israel becoming an official nation the next year, and in 1949 the Mossad was created to run the internal defense. Sir Ostralis funded it, the CIA protected global western interests, the Mossad protected national Zionist interests. This power triangle was strong. It propped up regimes, destroyed governments from within, and silenced anyone who questioned it, including presidents. John F. Kennedy was one of them. He tried to inspect Israel's nuclear site. He tried to shut down the CIA. And then a few months later, he was gone. So follow along before the same thing happens to me. And remember, it's not a conspiracy. It's a business model.

On JFK’s inauguration day, 48% of all State Department political-section employees were not actually State Department employees at all; they were CIA operatives under diplomatic cover. While parked at a US embassy, they did not answer within the State Department chain of command and acted as covert operatives for organized political warfare conducted by the CIA. Because they dominated the political section, they could set their own political policy for the country. If the State Department did not want to overthrow a regime but the CIA did, the CIA could use the embassy’s political-section bandwidth to contact dissident groups, run money to them, provide logistical support, connect them, and run a parallel operation without observing the White House National Security Council chain of command. The speaker gave examples where in some embassies 80% of the political affairs staff were CIA, not State Department at all. The speaker then notes Joe Biden’s CIA director as Bill Burns, describing Burns as a buddy of Jeffrey Epstein. It is asserted that in the 1990s Burns was the head of the political section for the US embassy in Russia, and that Burns “never worked a day at the CIA in his whole life before he’d be handed the reins to be the CIA director.” The speaker emphasizes that Burns was a State Department figure the whole time, serving as the head of the political affairs section, and questions where he was positioned “at state” when he was the head of the political affairs section.

The speaker lays out a narrative in which Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency, is intricately connected to the CIA and to a longtime insider, James Angleton. The claim is that Mossad and Angleton formed an alliance “forever,” with Angleton described as “the mole” who was aligned with Mossad. In 1960, Angleton was the head of the CIA’s Directorate of Foreign Intelligence, and he is depicted as the person who was always searching for a Russian mole. The speaker asserts that Angleton was effectively the Russian mole because of his close friendship with Mossad, to the extent that he would share information with Mossad and Mossad would not relay it to Russia. The narrative then moves to 1963, referencing David Ben-Gurion, the Israeli prime minister, arguing that Israel decided to kill John F. Kennedy. The speaker quotes Ben-Gurion as saying that Kennedy’s threats of inspections of “demonic” (interpreted as a mispronunciation or coded term for dangerous issues) were unacceptable, and that Ben-Gurion said, “It’s none of his frigging business. I don’t wanna hear anymore from Kennedy. You kill him.” According to the speaker, Ben-Gurion issued this order to Mossad and then resigned so he could not be held responsible for it. The implication is that Mossad then went to Angleton, implying that the Kennedy assassination was not a CIA job, but was “greased by the CIA” because Angleton had his connections at Mossad. From there, the speaker claims that Corsican sharpshooters were hired by Mossad for the Kennedy assassination as part of a larger operation at Dealey Plaza, including the escape. The speaker asserts that public suspicion has misattributed the blame to the mob, Lyndon Johnson, or Castro, but maintains that it was Israel that carried it out. The stated motive is tied to Israel’s desire to avoid further inspections related to their nuclear program. The speaker claims this is connected to Israel’s nuclear and biological capabilities and asserts that plutonium was stolen from the United States to support their program. In summary, the speaker contends that the Kennedy assassination was orchestrated not by the CIA alone, but through a coordinated effort involving Mossad, James Angleton, and David Ben-Gurion, with Israel acting to prevent scrutiny of its nuclear activities by eliminating Kennedy, aided by Corsican shooters and a CIA-Mossad alliance.

Jeffrey Epstein is linked to a network that merges organized crime with intelligence services, a relationship that began during World War II. Initially formed out of wartime necessity, this alliance became profitable and persisted post-war. The CIA effectively replaced the mob, taking over operations like arms, drug, and human trafficking, leading to various scandals. The history of U.S. intelligence is closely tied to Wall Street and private corporations, with many early intelligence leaders being Wall Street lawyers and bankers. Consequently, early CIA coups often served the interests of major corporations.

John Loftus explains his career: an army officer, a federal prosecutor at the Justice Department, then with the Office of Special Investigations—the Nazi war crimes unit under Carter and Reagan. He reveals discovering that many Nazis assigned to prosecute were already on the government payroll, which led him to become a whistleblower. In 1982 he appeared on an Emmy-winning segment of 60 Minutes with Mike Wallace; his family received death threats, and he later started a private law practice in Boston, focusing on whistleblowers, charging his clients a dollar apiece. He held a Q clearance for nuclear weapons secrets, an SI clearance for wiretapping, and a cosmic clearance for NATO-level top secrets, enabling him to read British, Dutch, and American intelligence files. He was the first person in half a century to access classified vaults in Suitland, Maryland, described as 20 underground security vaults, each one acre, reminiscent of Raiders of the Lost Ark but less organized. He sought evidence not only about Nazi war criminals but also about possible obstruction or fixing of the Nuremberg Trials. His first boss was a prosecutor of the Nuremberg Bankers Trial and suggested that resources were taken from investigations, implying the trials had been fixed. Loftus balanced two roles: investigating Belarusian Nazis who might have immigrated to America and looking for evidence of fixings in the Nuremberg Trials. Speaker 1 asks what Loftus discovered and why he dedicated forty years to exposing these secrets. Loftus responds that a small corrupt group of American officials collaborated with the British Secret Service to relocate Nazi war criminals to the United States. The British believed these individuals were not real Nazis but anticommunist freedom fighters due to anti-Russian sentiment, and some state department officials accepted this view. Loftus asserts that the British did not realize the Nazis were being moved to the U.S.; the Americans ended up using British networks after World War II, not understanding they were sending ex-Nazi terrorists from Arab states and Eastern Europe to fight in the Cold War. He claims the motive was financial: Alan Dulles was a Wall Street corrupt corporate lawyer who, with others, pursued bankers’ security and profit rather than national security, assisting in arming and supporting a rebel tribe led by Ibn Saud, which formed the House of Sa’ud, and helped install them in power in the 1930s. He states the Wahhabism/Salafism ideology gained legitimacy through oil wealth, with the Dulles-managed arrangements masking Nazi and Bolshevik connections as a matter of business. Loftus contends that the Dulles brothers hid Nazi, Saudi, and Bolshevik links, with the aim of creating new cartels and monopolies. He asserts that the Muslim Brotherhood, led by Hassan al-Banna since 1928, became the Abwehr’s arm in the Middle East, and that the Brotherhood’s expansion to half a million members included Nazi influence; after Nasser's rise in Egypt, the Saudis accepted ex-Nazi educators to teach in madrasas, leading to figures like Osama bin Laden being educated by first-generation Nazis. Loftus maintains that the Brotherhood’s offspring—Al-Qaeda and Hamas—share a philosophy opposing democracy, Western civilization, and Jews, continuing into contemporary conflicts. He concludes that Philby helped the Dulles brothers by introducing the Muslim Brotherhood as a proxy force against communism, leading to ongoing involvement in the Middle East. Speaker 1 asks for clarity on the Dulles brothers in the twenties, thirties, and forties. Loftus describes the Dulles brothers aiding Wall Street robber barons in moving money abroad to friendly fascists, including the Bolsheviks and German fascists, to restore monopolies. They used Swiss companies and banks to own German bank stock, circumventing Hitler’s ban on foreign ownership of German companies, with Hallmark Schacht as a business associate; he notes that about 70% of money used to rebuild the Third Reich came from Wall Street and the City of London.

In part 2 of the conversation with David Talbott on his book "The Devil's Chessboard," it is discussed why Alan Dulles was fired by JFK. After the Bay of Pigs incident, Kennedy realized that he and Dulles had different philosophies and decided to let him go. Dulles then set up an anti-Kennedy government in his home in Georgetown, where he met with figures of suspicion during the House Select Committee on Assassination hearings. Dulles was also seen at a CIA facility during Kennedy's assassination weekend. The relationship between Dulles and the mainstream media, including The New York Times, was close, with Dulles having influence over coverage and even getting reporters removed.

The transcript claims that Alan Dulles founded or was the main figure behind the CIA and is Swiss. It describes him as living in Bern, Switzerland for many years, being of Swiss descent from the Geneva patrician Male family, and having family ties to the Geneva patrician family of the Male. It states that the Geneva headquarters of the CIA and the OSS were run by the Male Prevot family, whose descendants include Alan Dulles, and asserts that key positions were limited to Swiss people. In 1921, the transcript claims that Alan Dulles was posted to Bern, Switzerland by his uncle, U.S. Secretary of State Lansing, to become chief of intelligence in the American legation. It says he was met by Swiss relatives from the Male family, including Julia Male Prevot (married to Dulles’s uncle Petit Dahl). It adds that the Male and Prevot families held hereditary seats in the Council of 200 ruling Geneva and formed a joint committee of spymasters with British royals dating back to at least the eighteenth century. It further alleges that the Male Prevot family injected the Scottish Rite of Masonry into the United States and that the ties extended across locations from Geneva through Basel to Tessin. The transcript claims that in the mid-1920s Dulles was stepped to be first secretary of the American embassy in Berlin and that he was also a director of Schroderbank, described as handling Hitler’s personal funds. It states that during World War II, a British ambassador Victor Male of the same family was present “probably to Switzerland,” reinforcing the focus on Swiss involvement. It describes Dulles as a lawyer who worked at the U.S. embassy in Bern in 1917 and became friends with Vladimir Lenin, claiming they saw each other frequently, including having beer in Bern. It states that during World War II, Dulles lived at Herngasse 23 in Bern near Lenin, and served as a Swiss Director of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), meeting Nazi officers and having Nazi friends “from Oktogon.” The transcript then asserts that OSS and Dulles helped bring these figures to the United States and place them in the CIA. It also alleges that after the war Alan Dulles became the first civil director of the CIA (1953–1961), and that under Eisenhower, the CIA leadership and the FBI were under Swiss control via “Swiss sleeper agent Eisenhower” and “Swiss” leadership at the FBI. It claims Dulles’s brother John Foster Dulles became Secretary of State during the Eisenhower administration. The transcript says Cold War actions escalated after these developments, and claims that Alan Dulles was later fired by John F. Kennedy, who supposedly paid an “ultimate price.” It states that the Warren Commission and the continuation of intelligence and military appointments preserved the “key positions.” Speaker 1 argues that “Octagon” and Swiss banks “rob up the poor people so the rich can get rich,” finance wars, and “finance Adolf Hitler,” concluding with “Downward, Switzerland and Octagon, freedom for the world.”

JFK was going after secret societies and the CIA, a rogue operation not funded by Congress that evolved from the OSS in World War II. To maintain operations, the CIA needed financial backers and approached Jewish bankers. JFK began printing silver-backed currency, threatening the Federal Reserve. A document from the JFK files states, "our new bankers are Jews as soon as we take care of Kennedy." The speaker claims the bankers told the CIA and Mossad that they would provide unlimited funds if they eliminated JFK. An FBI document from Kennedy's files identifies Baron Guy Rothschild as the individual who made the agreement with the CIA to kill JFK. The document allegedly details a plan for the CIA to have unlimited funds without Congressional knowledge to carry out covert operations. The Rothschilds, who financed Israel and back Mossad, directed the CIA to assassinate JFK to achieve world domination.

Speaker 0 says there is a broader “network” tied to history, referencing August Belmont as a Rothschild agent who was Democratic Party chairman in the nineteenth century. Speaker 1 agrees and contrasts this with some official Rothschild histories that claim the family never had influence in American life. Speaker 1 says it is common knowledge in American history that August Belmont, as Democratic National Chairman, was an American agent of the Rothschild family. Speaker 1 also discusses the Rockefeller family, saying the Rockefellers originally received financing for their oil enterprises from Rothschild-influenced or Rothschild-controlled U.S. banks that acted as fronts for the Rothschild family. Speaker 1 predicts that the Rockefellers will ultimately “hardly be worth anything at all,” arguing they have been promoted by the media as the American power elite while functioning as fronts for the Rothschilds. Speaker 1 points to the Council on Foreign Relations in New York, describing it as an “insidious power block,” and says Rockefeller family influence is a primary influence within it. Speaker 1 claims that the Council on Foreign Relations is only a junior “American cousin” of the Royal Institute of International Affairs in London (RIIIA), and that the Royal Institute functions as the foreign policy arm of the Rothschild family. Speaker 1 characterizes the American organizations as well-funded front groups for Rothschild influence and says people often avoid going beyond describing the Council on Foreign Relations as an “internationalist group,” because taking the next step would mean asserting it is a fronting mechanism for Rothschild influence and an “international Zionist imperium” Speaker 1 says the Rothschilds are trying to impose on the planet. Speaker 0 begins to say they noticed something years ago, but the transcript ends mid-sentence.

The transcript covers a broad set of interwoven claims about global health security, intelligence operations, political conspiracies, and alleged CIA influence on U.S. leadership. Key points include: - Pandemic preparedness and global infrastructure: There is discussion that an airborne, deadly disease could emerge, and to deal with it effectively we must put in place infrastructure globally and domestically to see, isolate, and respond quickly. The investment is framed as a smart, long-term insurance against future flu strains like the Spanish flu, especially in a globalized world. - CIA and presidency dynamics: The day after an election, the CIA director allegedly authorizes a president-elect to begin receiving a President’s Daily Brief (PDB) and uses the briefing to “suck him in,” presenting impressive can-dos that shape the new president’s perceptions and questions. This is described as psychological profiling and manipulation, with the CIA using long-standing methods to influence a president and government direction. - Allegations of a covert cabal influencing U.S. institutions: The conversation suggests a cabal has aimed to destroy U.S. institutions from within, including defunding the military and ordering actions that undermine allies while aiding enemies. This cabal allegedly includes control over the FBI, DOJ, and the presidency, culminated in the appointment of James Comey to head the FBI, portrayed as a “cardinal” with ties to the Clinton Foundation and as part of broader cabal activity. - 2008–2011 FBI and political corruption narrative: An asset described as a high-level foreign agent allegedly influenced U.S. politics and was connected to multiple intelligence services, with claims about his role in internal U.S. political manipulation. The rise of a president referred to as “Renegade,” identified as Barry Sartaro (Barry Soetoro), is described as part of the cabal’s plan to destabilize the United States from within, including military demoralization and misdirection. - Barack Obama conspiracy theories: The dialogue asserts that Barack Obama’s origins and identity have been manipulated for political purposes, including claims about a forged birth certificate, ongoing questions about birth location, and various individuals connected to Hawaii’s health department and local authorities providing or denying birth certificate verification. References include Loretta Fuddy and investigations into Obama’s birth details, with assertions that Obama’s name and identity were manipulated in Indonesia (Barry Soetoro) and that his family connections tie to CIA-backed operations in Asia. - Indonesia coup and CIA involvement: The conversation links Obama’s family to CIA-backed activities in Indonesia, including the overthrow of Sukarno and the rise of Suharto, with relatives described as having roles in money channels and death squads. The narrative asserts that Lolo Soetoro acted in intelligence-adjacent roles and that Obama’s grandmother helped channel CIA funds in the region. - Claims about CIA media manipulation and “MK Ultra” style operations: The speakers reference Operation Mockingbird, MK Ultra, and other CIA operations as public knowledge used to undermine the American people. They suggest continued silencing and manipulation by those operations. - Kill lists and drone warfare under the Obama administration: The transcript alleges that John Brennan led “Tuesday morning kill list” meetings starting in 2009, with drones and targeted killings used to eliminate designated individuals, and asserts confidence that Obama’s administration excelled at deploying missile strikes and other covert actions, contrasted with the possibility of ongoing use by subsequent administrations. - Recurrent thread of distrust in institutions: Across pandemic planning, birth certificate controversy, foreign influence, CIA cabal theories, and drone warfare, the overarching theme is distrust of established institutions and assertion of deep, planned manipulation by covert actors.

Hor Glance von Liebenfelds, described as an ex-Cistercian monk, published the magazine *Ostara* and formed the Order of the New Templars after being expelled from his monastery. Adolf Hitler and other Nazis collected and read *Ostara*, which featured Templar imagery. Another occult group said to power German politics was the Thule Society, founded in 1912 by Rudolf von Sebotendorf, identified as a major Freemason and an expert in Islamic and oriental mysticism. In 1918, Thule member Karl Harrer formed the workers’ political circle, and in 1919 he renamed it the German Workers’ Party, later headed by Adolf Hitler after taking over from Dietrich Eckhart. The Thule name is said to mean a “northerly place or homeland” and to refer to Atlantis. Numerical systems are described as having origins connected to Atlantis, portrayed as a continent sunk beneath the ocean about 9,000 BC that allegedly held an advanced civilization. Thule is also tied to ancient maps and is described as the name given to an Atlantean civilization that was said to have declined due to Aryans allegedly mixing with non-Aryans or because of a flood. The Thule Society is depicted as a cult discussion group that initially helped create a political basis for the movement, with later claims that future Nazi leaders attended its meetings, including Hans Frank, Dietrich Eckhart, and Rudolf Hess. Within about eight or ten weeks of moving toward broader participation—since meetings were still described as elite and not reaching many “normal people”—Harrer and Anton Drexler began creating a workers circle. They formed the German Workers Party, loosely associated with the Thule Society at first, with the relationship described as beginning a break from Thule. The new party is presented as operating in early 1919, while still being connected to an earlier elitist and occult-oriented milieu. The transcript then shifts to symbols and bans involving Germanic orders. It claims that Teutonic Knights cross imagery appears in various historical contexts (including Scottish pictish and Teutonic peoples’ lances) and states that in March 1940 a “cross of the Teutonic knights” appears alongside other symbols. It also claims Hitler forbade the Teutonic Knights in 1938, while asserting that the order remained active afterward (reestablished in 1945). Ulrich “Yammer” Schacht is described as walking with Hitler during the 1930s, serving as President of the Reichsbank (1933–1939) and Minister of Economics (1934–1937). The transcript states he was a Freemason in Johannes Lodge Urania for immortality (1908) and quotes his autobiography *Confessions of the Old Wizard* describing Freemasonry running in his family. It also claims that Schacht formed a German-Turkish Masonic society after meeting a Turkish Freemason, and that the Young Turks were Freemasons whose secret meetings took place under lodge protection. The transcript claims Switzerland financed Hitler in 1923 (Zurich, 30,000 Swiss francs) and describes the founding of the Bank for International Settlements (BIS) by the Swiss and Hitler’s bankers (Janmar Schacht and Emil Pohl). It asserts that BIS accepted Nazi gold looted from occupied countries and helped accelerate the Nazi war machine, and adds that the Bank of England worked with BIS. The BIS is described as existing still and as granting total diplomatic immunity to members and staff, with extra-territorial status. Later sections claim that various Templar-linked symbols and organizations connect to Freemasonry and occult groups. The transcript alleges that the Knights Templars had large fleets and that their destruction led to pirates, claiming the origin of pirate brotherhood and skull-and-bones symbolism. It further alleges that Yale University’s Skull and Bones and a lodge number (322) tie to German secret societies including the Illuminati, OTO, and Thule. George Bush is mentioned as a Skull and Bones member, and the transcript asserts a specific initiation detail. The transcript then ties political and “occult” meaning to numerical and architectural symbols: it states that the hexagon represents the headshed and political wing of the pharaohs, the square-and-compass forms a six-point diagram, and “six” is tied to those who give orders. It claims the octagon represents the executional military wing of a “Nazi Templars” army (the “universal blue army”), making “eight” stand for “Octagon,” including claims about Switzerland as the base. It concludes by asserting that Nazi-coded numbers (18 and 88) “feed mystical powers” to the “pharaonic organization” Octagon of the Nazi Templars and claims that “SS” is tied to Isis. The final claim states that “Isis is calling you, so you can die.”

The speaker asserts that today the most serious evil organization on the face of the earth is the Vatican. The argument then centers on the Knights of Malta, claiming that the six men who founded the CIA in America were all Catholics and members of the Knights of Malta. The speaker further contends that when examining banking fraternities in America, such as the Bank of America and Union Bank in California, the founders and current leaders of these banks, who are running the banking establishment today, are all Knights of Malta, described as Catholic Masonry. From there, the talk expands to a broader claim about European governance, stating that all the kings and rulers in Europe ruled by the divine right, referred to as the divine right of kings. The speaker then questions what represents divine to grant the king the right to rule, answering that the pope holds that role. The pope, according to the claim, appoints certain families to be over the French, and the pope appoints certain people to be over the Germans and over the British. The concept of divine right is then tied directly to the pope, with the assertion that the pope represents God. Because the pope represents God, he is said to be able to declare that a particular family is holy and should rule. Consequently, the speaker argues, this church authority could then claim that they rule by divine right. The overall narrative connects the Vatican, the Knights of Malta, and Catholic Masonry to influential administrative and governmental power structures, including the founding of the CIA and the leadership of major banks, and frames this as evidence of a global governance dynamic justified by divine right under papal authority.

According to the speaker, Zionist control of the U.S. government began when Ben Gurion told Presidents Eisenhower and JFK that Jewish scientists helped build the atomic bomb and Israel wanted influence. While Eisenhower and JFK resisted, General Groves, who built the bomb secretly, pushed to drop it on Japan with Zionist support, even though it wasn't needed to end the war. Eisenhower and others were angry because Groves wanted to claim the bomb won the war. Eisenhower forced Groves out of the military in 1947, but Groves, influential with Zionists, helped replace Henry Wallace with Truman as president to install "Fabian, Zionist, and friendlies" in the new CIA. The speaker claims this was a mistake by Eisenhower and Truman. Groves transferred military brainpower to the CIA, led by George Kennan and Allen Dulles. Dulles's right-hand man, Richard Helms, later got rid of MK Ultra files and forced Jim Garrison to prosecute Clay Shaw for JFK's murder, denying Shaw's CIA ties until after Shaw's death.

The speaker argues that the Ukraine war is a distraction from a major event four days earlier, on 02/20/2022, involving a huge financial scandal in Switzerland connected to Putin’s circle and Swiss banks. The scandal is described as Swiss secrets (Suisse Secret in French), the largest leak from a major Swiss bank, Credit Suisse, revealing details on more than 30,000 clients and over $100,000,000,000. The Suddeutsche Zeitung reported that secret data had been obtained over a year via a secure digital mailbox. The speaker notes the timing as four days before Russia’s invasion of Ukraine on 02/24/2022 and claims this scandal was the trigger for the war. The speaker alleges that “every war gets organized and decided out of Switzerland,” and cites prior videos about the “beast of the Alps” and the Knights Templars. He links Putin, the World Economic Forum, Klaus Schwab, and Zelensky to Switzerland, asserting that important decisions are made there. He claims that on 02/24/2020 there was supposed to be a live broadcast about Credit Suisse and Swiss secrets by the Germans and their Zupeitsche Zeitung and the OCCRP, but the Ukraine war started and the discussion disappeared. The transcript lists a wide array of figures connected to the Swiss secrets list: dictators, aristocrats, drug lords, mafia bosses, and Putin pals. Notable named individuals include Alyaksay Aleksin (Belarusian businessman associated with Lukashenko, sanctioned in 2021), Alexander Lukashenko, Haji Saifula Khan Bangash, a minister of finance, and numerous others described as aristocrats, oligarchs, or corrupt. The list comprises 30,000 people, with names spanning Abdelaziz Bouteflika, King Abdullah of Jordan, Queen Rania, Abdul Khalim Khadom (Syrian official and Assad loyalist), Luis Carlos de Leon (aristocrat), former Ukrainian prime minister Lazarenko, various generals and intelligence officials from Egypt, Pakistan, Armenia, and other regions, as well as figures from South Africa and Rhodesia. The speaker emphasizes that these individuals allegedly channel money through Credit Suisse, and that many are connected to Putin, Lukashenko, and allied regimes. He asserts that many of these people, and their networks, are linked to the Wagner private military company (PMC) and that the list aligns with countries where Wagner has been active. The speaker claims that the Swiss secrets scandal is tied to global money flows and sanctions evasion, noting connections to the Paradise Papers (2017), Pandora Papers, and the Panama Papers, and argues that Swiss markets help pay for Russia’s war via oil, gas, and commodity trading. He asserts that commodities like oil, gas, and wheat are central to the instability and potential financial crisis. The narrator asserts that the money moved to Switzerland by wealthy Russians, to avoid sanctions, enabled the private banking industry and that the war in Ukraine was staged to distract from the scandal and to facilitate wealth transfers to safer locations. The closing stance asserts that Switzerland is the base of all evil, the cross of the Swiss flag symbolizes a door to wealth, and that the media, global elite, and oligarchs use distraction to cover the Swiss secrets scandal and the transfer of wealth while innocent Europeans suffer from the war. The speaker concludes that the war is a distraction and thanks Switzerland for making it possible, implying a broad conspiracy about finance, war, and power.