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The speaker believes someone is a "crazy person" who hates Trump and wants to be remembered in history for opposing him and helping the economy. When Trump was president and wanted to stimulate the economy, this person allegedly raised interest rates instead, acting contrary to Trump's wishes. The speaker indicates "we don't want Trump to be in the clean government."

The speakers discuss the United States' treatment of its people. Speaker 1 claims the U.S. is "trash" and doesn't treat its people well, citing healthcare costs as an example. Speaker 0 responds that Trump slashed prescription drug prices by 50 to 80%. Speaker 1 says Trump is "just working for fucking capitalism" and that sellers can raise prices. Speaker 0 counters that Trump isn't taking a salary and lost a billion dollars in net worth during his first administration. Speaker 1 claims Trump is taking money from people who pay for his "stupid fucking coin," possibly referring to a cryptocurrency. Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 1 is upset with people making money off cryptocurrencies.

Speaker 0: I'm a never Trump guy. I never liked him. Just kidding. do you believe Donald Trump who always tells the truth? Speaker 1: I cannot stand Trump because I think he's a fraud. Well, think he's a total fraud that is exploiting these people who is a total fraud. Speaker 2: Like you said, I I agree with you on Trump because I don't think that he's the person I I I don't think he actually cares about folks. Speaker 0: Definitely there is definitely an element of Donald Trump support that has its basis in racism or xenophobia. I think there's a chance if Trump has a really good chance of winning that I might have to hold my nose and and vote for Hillary Clinton. I’m gonna vote third party because I can't stomach Trump. I think that he's noxious and is leading the white working class to a very dark place.

I used to be a business person before entering politics, so when people talk about "bidenomics" and how it's benefiting everyone, I have my doubts. Honestly, I can't think of any measure that shows people are better off now compared to three years ago, even with the impact of COVID-19.

The speakers disagree on President Trump's competency. One speaker believes it's absurd to question Trump's competency, especially after years of questioning President Biden's mental acuity. The speaker believes words matter and should be used carefully to avoid inflaming the public and to arrive at the truth. The other speaker questions Trump's competency, cognitive abilities, ignorance, and truthfulness, citing examples such as a photoshopped photo, a Supreme Court ruling, Elon Musk holding press conferences in the Oval Office, misunderstanding trade deficits, and a disastrous economy. This speaker believes Trump has driven the country into a disastrous economy, undermined the rule of law and democracy, and cut taxes for the rich. The first speaker disagrees, stating that the first hundred days are exactly what Trump promised and what the American people voted for.

Speaker 1 prefers Kamala Harris over Trump because Trump "fucking sucks" and Harris is "trying to make the world a lot cheaper to live in," as the cost of living is always increasing. Speaker 0 questions how Harris will fix this, given her current role as VP. Speaker 0 believes Trump improved the economy, citing cheaper housing, rent, and groceries. Speaker 1 admits to not knowing Harris's achievements as VP but still considers her the better choice due to negative perceptions of Trump, whom she deems racist and sexist. When asked for specifics, Speaker 1 admits to not following politics closely or watching content featuring Trump, basing her opinion on clips and general impressions.

Speaker 0 suggests Trump's history of targeting businesses and leaders who he perceives as political enemies should make him "radioactive" to the business world. Speaker 1 notes that, with the exception of Elon Musk, few CEOs of large companies publicly support Trump, fearing retribution. Speaker 0 asks Speaker 1 to elaborate on a statement that some business leaders support Trump because they believe they can manipulate him. Speaker 1 explains that these leaders see the relationship as transactional, believing they can influence policy with the right amount of money, citing crypto as an example.

The speaker addresses Marilyn and shares her view on Mark Carney. She states that Carney has been Justin Trudeau's economic adviser for the past five years and argues that he is part of “the disastrous mess” created by the Liberals in terms of inflation and the increased cost of everything, and she does not see him bringing any change. She then critiques Carney’s staff and associates: - Marco Mendocino is described as having been kicked out of cabinet for “the lies that he told when he said that the police requested they enact the Emergency Measures Act, and the police clearly said they did not.” She also says Mendocino claimed he didn’t know anything about Paul Bernardo being transferred to a medium security prison, which she says turned out not to be true. - The transition team for Mark Carney is said to include David LeMetty, who is described as a minister in the middle of the SNC Lavalin scandal that “got the get out of jail free card for SNC Lavalin in the corruption case.” He is presented as evidence of “really bad judgment” and not speaking well of the government’s integrity. Regarding Mark Carney personally, she asserts: - Carney “wouldn’t disclose all of his assets in Brookfield” and “lied several times during the campaign leadership race.” She claims he said he had nothing to do with Brookfield’s move from Canada to the United States, but minutes allegedly show he chaired meetings, voted in favor of the move, and wrote letters to shareholders urging them to support moving the head office from Canada to the U.S. - She asks, “How does that inspire confidence that he cares about Canada at all?” and states there is “nothing but concerns” about Carney because he would avoid giving straight answers and avoids questions from the press. She notes that Carney has never been elected by the Canadian people; he was selected by a handful of Liberals in a leadership race that would determine the next Prime Minister of Canada, and so far, she argues, it “doesn’t look good.” Her conclusion is that this is what she thinks about Mark Carney.

Speaker 1 states that Trump's presidency saw no recession, rising real wages, a strong stock market, and record low unemployment before the pandemic. Speaker 1 believes Trump's prior term provides a clear blueprint of what to expect from a future presidency. They also assert that Kamala Harris's performance as Vice President offers insight into her potential future role. Speaker 0 claims there has been more manufacturing in the U.S. than at any time since World War II. Speaker 1 counters that real wages have decreased and crime has risen. Speaker 0 disputes the claim about real wages, stating they have increased. Speaker 1 clarifies that real weekly wages and average weekly wages are still down from when Biden took office. Speaker 0 attributes high unemployment to the pandemic.

In response to questions about how the White House can reach frustrated voters and improve their sense of the situation, Speaker 0 opens by noting that lower inflation and gas prices are key, and asks what the White House can do to make those voters feel better or convince them the situation is improving, also pointing out that they are being told lies by the media, a problem he says Republicans have long faced. Speaker 1 replies by emphasizing a central point derived from polling: there is overwhelming support for President Trump across every issue and dimension. He asserts that the most important point to hammer is that under Trump there was no inflation, whereas Biden’s presidency devastated the economy. He states that there was double-digit inflation overall from when Biden entered to when Biden left, and that prices “went up 30% in four years.” He then claims that when Donald Trump “comes back in,” inflation is “down to near benchmark rates of 2% within months,” describing this as astonishing and asking rhetorically, “How’s that even possible? I mean, we we knew the man was an economic wizard.” He reiterates the question, asking how inflation could move from 30% to nearly 2% in a few months, suggesting that Trump “defied what everybody said was possible.” The exchange centers on contrasting perceptions of economic performance under the two administrations, with Speaker 1 arguing that Trump achieved a rapid and substantial reduction in inflation after a period of high inflation under Biden, and framing this as evidence of Trump’s economic prowess. The dialogue also frames political popularity and media messaging as factors in the public’s views, positioning Trump’s economic record as a core issue for persuading voters who feel left behind.

Trump has been challenging the Fed's autonomy since taking office, aiming to sack Jerome Powell and appoint a loyalist, but he cannot remove the chair because a Federal Reserve chief has a fixed four-year tenure. So Trump is doing the only thing that he can: he's attacking the Fed chief. We have a moron at the head of the Fed. He's a moron. Speaking of the executive chief, now you have a top choice. Do. I have I have two or three top choices. Such remarks have made investors jumpy and all of this is hurting the dollar's reputation, pushing investors towards other assets like gold, the euro, the franc, and the yen. And this does not bode well for America.

Speaker 0 questions Speaker 1, a mother of two daughters, about Trump's "grab them by the pussy" comment. Speaker 0 asks if that language makes Speaker 1 feel that Trump is not her guy. Speaker 1 responds that she would "rather be grabbed by the pussy than have a pussy for president" and that she is happy with that language, claiming everyone uses rude language behind closed doors. She then brings up Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky. Speaker 0 reiterates she is talking about the current president-elect, not the past. Speaker 1 says she is not offended by Trump's comments from 8 years ago and tells Speaker 0 to deal with her own issues. Speaker 0 asks if anyone is remotely concerned about the nature of Trump. Speaker 1 responds that America needed someone with a strong lead who would stand up for white and black people, bring back jobs, allow Americans to have weapons, and ensure a conservative Supreme Court. She states that is why pollsters, broadcasters, commentators, and pundits were wrong.

Speaker 0: Expresses being a “never Trump” person and not liking him. Frames the discussion as a “he said, she said” dispute about who is telling the truth, jokingly questioning whether to believe Donald Trump who “always tells the truth? Just kidding,” or the woman on the tape. Speaker 1: States they cannot stand Trump, calling him a “fraud” and saying he is “exploiting these people,” describing him as a total fraud. Speaker 2: Agrees with Speaker 1, saying they don’t think Trump is the person and that he “doesn’t actually care about folks.” Speaker 0: Acknowledges an element of Trump support that has “its basis in racism or xenophobia.” Indicates a possible scenario where, if Trump has a strong chance of winning, they might have to “hold my nose and vote for Hillary Clinton,” adding they’re considering voting third party because they “can’t stomach Trump,” and describing him as “noxious” and leading “the white working class to a very dark place.”

The speaker believes Trump is a "crazy person." They feel that someone wants to be remembered in history as holding the line against Trump. When Trump was president and wanted to stimulate the economy, this person allegedly raised interest rates and did the opposite of what Trump wanted. The speaker concludes that "we don't want Trump to be in the clean government."

Speaker 0 asks if the person really wants Tom Emmer to be speaker, as they did not vote for congressman Jim Jordan. Speaker 1 responds that they do not like Tom Emmer and believes it is the worst job in America. Speaker 0 clarifies that they voted for someone they don't like because they didn't want to vote for Jim.

Speaker 1 stated that Jerome Powell is too late and slow, and that he is not happy with him. Speaker 1 claims he has let Powell know this. Speaker 1 believes that if he wanted Powell out, Powell would be out of his position very fast.

Harrell Hizmo, a principal economist at the Federal Reserve, prepares speeches for Jerome Powell. He says his work is "all classified." Hizmo believes Powell wants to be remembered for "holding the line" against Trump and helping the economy. He claims Powell is responsive and has shifted the Fed to consider equity, racial issues, wealth inequality, and climate change. Hizmo says Powell raised interest rates against Trump's wishes to stimulate the economy. He believes Powell is slow-rolling solutions to avoid a recession during an election year, fearing people could lose their homes and jobs. Hizmo states that some people think conservatives are dumb and that the Federal Reserve might discriminate against them depending on how "out there" they are. He also says the Fed had to introduce new regulations to offset actions taken by Trump.

Speaker 0 argues that Trump’s shift from “opening the Shadow Homos” to “blockading it” is ironic and reflects a strategic question for the United States. They say the irony highlights a broader question about American strategy and emphasize that their criticism is not merely to criticize but to assess the situation objectively. They note an interesting point raised by an expert: while blockade is not difficult to implement, it “just doesn’t work.” They reference economic experts who have weighed in, recognizing that Iran has undetermined but significant funds and multiple import/export avenues. Although Iran cannot freely pass ships through the Strait of Hormuz, they have alternative routes: the Caspian Sea for imports via land routes, and “floating oil across the world” for exports. The core question becomes how far Trump is willing to go to “strangle the Iranian economy” and whether that would pull the global economy into the mix. In this framing, the conversation centers on the feasibility and consequences of a harsher economic blockade against Iran and the potential global repercussions. Speaker 1 responds by characterizing Trump as lacking empathy for the economic impact on ordinary Americans and, more broadly, on people worldwide. They reference Trump’s own statements, noting that he has said it will “cost us more,” but “we’re gonna make a lot of money.” This quoted sentiment is used to support the claim that Trump does not consider or prioritize the cost to average citizens. Speaker 1 asserts that Trump “doesn’t feel it,” and therefore does not feel a sense of urgency to take action. They summarize Trump’s attitude as not demonstrating concern for the economic impact on the average American or global populations, which underpins the claim that there is no urgency to intervene despite potential price increases for gasoline or other goods. This exchange frames the discussion around the practicality of sanctions, the resilience of Iran’s economic channels, and the perceived indifference of Trump to domestic and international economic costs.

Speaker 0 asks if the speakers support Trump being indicted. Speaker 1 strongly opposes it, calling Trump the greatest of all time and claiming he was set up. Speaker 2 also opposes it, believing Trump can bring positive change. Speaker 3 sees it as political persecution and predicts it will increase Trump's support. When asked if their lives were better under Trump or Biden, Speaker 1 and Speaker 4 both express support for Trump, citing foreign policy, inflation, and border security as reasons. They want to "make America great again."

The policies under Donald Trump led to low inflation, rising wages, and stability. However, under Joe Biden, there is rising inflation and economic stagnation. It's important to acknowledge Trump's success and consider bringing him back for another term to restore a growing economy and peace globally.

The speaker believes someone is a "crazy person" who hates Trump and wants to be remembered in history as someone who opposed Trump and helped the economy. When Trump was president and wanted to stimulate the economy, this person allegedly raised interest rates and did the opposite of what Trump wanted. The speaker's feeling is that they don't want Trump in the clean government.

The speaker believes Biden has not done a good job with the economy. They identify as socially liberal and fiscally conservative. They thought the country was in a very good place economically under Trump before COVID-19. The speaker believes the current economic situation is out of hand.

Speaker 1 stated they are not a fan of tariffs but hope they work. Speaker 0 asked for the senator's comment about tariffs. Speaker 1 mentioned their hearing is not what it used to be.

Harrell Hizmo, a principal economist at the Federal Reserve, helps write speeches for Jerome Powell. Hizmo stated that the information he deals with is classified. He said that Powell wants to be remembered as someone who "held the line" against Trump and helped the economy. Hizmo believes Powell is responsive and that the Fed has changed under Powell to consider equity, racial issues, wealth inequality, and climate change. Hizmo said that Powell didn't want to create a recession, especially during an election year. He also stated that some people think conservatives are dumb and that the Federal Reserve might discriminate against them depending on how "out there" they are. Hizmo noted that the Fed has had to offset actions taken by Trump by introducing new regulations.

Speaker 0: I loathe Donald Trump. Speaker 0: Everything we care about is under siege by a racist, misogynistic, homophobic, xenophobic president. Speaker 0: Donald Trump is a convicted felon, an adjudicated rapist, and a congenital liar. He's a racist, sexist, misogynistic, narcissist. Speaker 1: When Pritzker calls Trump antidemocratic and authoritarian, he's effectively calling more than 70,000,000 Americans the same thing. Speaker 0: Illinois Democrats have done more in the last five years to push back on the wave of authoritarian, antidemocratic, MAGA Republican nonsense than in any other place in the country. Speaker 1: Not even an assassination attempt has tempered governor Pritzker. Speaker 0: I am very pleased that he remains relatively unharmed, but it's still true that Donald Trump is a convicted felon, an adjudicated rapist, has been a, congenital liar, and is unfit for the office of president of The United States. Speaker 1: Pritzker's vitriol has become extreme.