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Speaker 0 states that while they don't think it's fair, they dislike belittling the trans community and the right wing's rhetoric, emphasizing that trans people "just wanna survive." Speaker 1 questions who is talking down to whom, asking if female athletes are doing so. Speaker 2 accuses "Vanilla Barack Obama" of pandering for the black vote, recalling a previous discussion about reparations in a non-slave state. Now, according to Speaker 2, Obama has decided to make his stand on "letting boys beat up on girls," which Speaker 2 deems unfair.

Speaker 1 claims that Speaker 0's statements are lies. Speaker 1 founded the Asylum Seeker Network of Support to fight US policy, which evolved into creating programs. Speaker 2 says Speaker 0 is there to take from them, but they are standing as a community. Speaker 0 asks if they are taking pictures of children near trans flags, condoms, and sex-related items, which they deem inappropriate for a public park. Speaker 0 tells Speaker 2 to stop touching them. Speaker 1 says Speaker 0 is not welcome in their space, but Speaker 0 says it is a public park. Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1 of assault. Speaker 1 denies being violent and suggests Speaker 0 give them personal space. Speaker 0 accuses them of gaslighting and asks why they threw coffee at them, stating they are just there to cover the event.

Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1 of planning to discuss anti-trans topics after talking about abortion. Speaker 0 expresses anger and claims that the discussion is violent and triggering their students. Speaker 1 apologizes, but Speaker 0 dismisses the apology, stating that Speaker 1 cannot understand the experience of having a baby.

Speaker 0, identifying as the only Black lesbian in the room, asks Senator Winner a direct question about women’s safety in female-only spaces, referencing an incident at Gold’s Gym where she was attacked in a locker room by a self-identifying trans woman with a documented history of domestic violence. She asks what Senator Winner would say to women seeking assurance that their safety will be protected from men who, under California law, can self-identify as women in women-only spaces. Speaker 1 responds that “we want everyone to be safe,” and notes that trans people exist as both men and women, saying, “if you're trans women or women.” He emphasizes the need to protect safety for all, acknowledging that trans women are part of the discussion. Speaker 0 continues, praising Senator Winner for housing bills and other actions, but asserts that “millions of women across America are being harassed and sexually assaulted in locker rooms.” She reiterates that she is a lesbian Black woman, not transphobic or homophobic, and stresses that some bills passed by Winner are dangerous for women and young children. She states she represents her community and urges protection for women in light of concerns about trans-inclusive policies. Speaker 2 interjects, urging Speaker 0 to allow Senator Winner to respond, while Speaker 0 reiterates the need for protection of women, specifying “Women. Women. Trans women are doing things. Women. Women.” She asserts that she was assaulted, adding, “They are not. They are men.” She describes the assailant as someone who “broke his wife’s jaw” requiring reconstructive surgery, and emphasizes her identity as a lesbian who is Black. She invites another Black woman to share her feelings, while also challenging the presence of others in the room. Speaker 1 reiterates the goal of protecting the safety of all women and acknowledges that “trans women are also brutalized in this country.” The conversation emphasizes a tension between protecting women’s safety and acknowledging the experiences of trans women, with Speaker 0 insisting, “We cannot be raped in the bathrooms by men that wanna say they're women. They're not women.” Speaker 2 responds by leaving, citing that the group is not protecting women, and remarks on the bills, stating she has read many of them and still finds issues “not right.” The exchange ends with Speaker 2, introducing herself as Tish Heine, and a comment about not allowing Blackness and civil rights to be used to justify laws for children to transform, followed by a remark about disparities in access to tampons versus transformation medication. The conversation also touches on broader political history, with Speaker 1 and Speaker 0 referencing political dynamics, including a note that “things were going so smoothly” before recalling an earlier moment in 2008 involving Aaron Peskin.

Transgender boys benefit from free tampons in bathrooms. Speaker 1 argues that only women menstruate, based on chromosomes. Speaker 0 counters that trans men and non-binary individuals also menstruate. Speaker 1 insists that they are women dressed as men, while Speaker 0 questions the definition of a man. They debate the distinction between sex and gender, with Speaker 0 asserting that they are different. Speaker 1 disagrees and accuses Speaker 0 of making up conclusions. Speaker 0 argues against denying someone's identity, while Speaker 1 denies being hateful. The conversation ends with Speaker 0 accusing Speaker 1 of being hateful.

Speaker 0 asks Speaker 1 if biological men should be able to use women's restrooms. Speaker 1 questions the relevance to immigration. Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 1 has ever used the women's restroom, after Speaker 1 allegedly said everyone should use the other gender's bathroom today as a protest. Speaker 1 says they have not and denies advocating for men to use women's restrooms. Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 1 regrets encouraging men to use women's restrooms and if Speaker 1 ever considered that women don't want men in their bathrooms. Speaker 0 then asks if Speaker 1 thinks it's appropriate for men to use women's restrooms because Speaker 0 believes Speaker 1 is taking rights away from underage girls.

Speaker 0 argues about genetics, Speaker 1 shifts to brain scans. Speaker 0 threatens violence. Speaker 2 mentions a criminal case involving a transgender person. Speaker 3 corrects someone on their gender, leading to a heated exchange.

Speaker 1 expresses that the situation is traumatizing and asserts that as a woman there is a space reserved for women. She questions the right of a transgender person to be in that space, stating, "he has a penis. A full and testicle. Okay? And and I don't care what it it's a man. You got one? You're a man." She argues that if they entered the men's section based on anatomy, it would be a man, and notes that they may not like women, but that for her and many other women, they do not feel comfortable and "it's not okay." She adds, "I'm sorry to talk to Okay? So well, I yeah. Yeah. You're sorry. You should be, sweetie, and you're out of alignment, and this is not right." She implies the other person is out of alignment and suggests attention to the situation, even commenting on the other person’s personal circumstances: "it must be hard not being a real man. Try it." She urges that every woman get all of their information. Speaker 0 responds, discussing a security guard who said that this is not allowed. Speaker 1 disregards the security guard's stance, insisting she does not care what the security guard says. Speaker 0 clarifies that the security guard doesn't want to be involved, and Speaker 1 insists that the guard should not have been present or allowed in the space. The exchange centers on whether a transgender person should be in the women's space and the authorities' stance on access. The discussion highlights discomfort, boundaries, and perceived inappropriateness from the perspective of Speaker 1, while Speaker 0 defers to the security guard's position. The dialogue ends with an emphatic consolidation of their stance: "Exactly. Thank you. Exactly. No."

Speaker 0 warns someone about their statement regarding men competing as females. They ask the person to leave, as they continue to make the same statement. Speaker 1 acknowledges that they are right and thanks the person for being present. They mention the importance of everyone following their own rules and ask for those who interrupt to leave, as it infringes on their First Amendment rights.

Speaker 0 expresses concern about going to a sports group and potentially being made uncomfortable. Speaker 1 argues that trans women are women and face the same risks of rape as cisgender women. Speaker 2 agrees and emphasizes that there should be no differentiation. Speaker 0 clarifies that they are not scared, but they just want to be able to go to the sports group without any issues. Speaker 1 suggests that Speaker 0 educate themselves on the topic, as there are many support groups available. Speaker 0 expresses frustration with being told they have to educate themselves.

Speaker 0 tells Speaker 1 that their opinion was not inclusive and goes against the school's policy. Speaker 1 argues that there are only two genders, but Speaker 0 disagrees and says that the school recognizes more than two genders. Speaker 1 feels that their opinion is being silenced and complains about being kicked out of class. Speaker 0 suggests making an official complaint, but Speaker 1 declines. The conversation ends with Speaker 1 expressing frustration and Speaker 0 allowing them to stay in the classroom.

Speaker 0 stated they were more concerned with Donald Trump's congresswoman. Speaker 1 asked if Speaker 0 had served in a combat zone and if they were still friends with school shooters, which Speaker 0 denied. Speaker 1 referenced a debate stage where Speaker 0 allegedly claimed friendship with school shooters. Regarding bullying, Speaker 0 said it's okay to bully the bully at times, which Speaker 1 interpreted as condoning bullying. Speaker 1 accused the Democrat party of violence and asked if Speaker 0 was at Tiananmen Square, to which Speaker 0 responded they were there in January 1990. Speaker 1 then asked, "What is a woman?" Speaker 0 said they didn't understand the question. Speaker 1 wanted Speaker 0 to say a woman is an adult human female and that men can't become women, accusing the party of erasing women.

Speaker 1 attempts to interview Speaker 2, who claims Speaker 1 says lies. Speaker 2 says they founded the Asylum Seeker Network of Support to fight US policy, which evolved into creating programs. Speaker 2 says Speaker 1 is there to take from them, while they stand as a community. Speaker 1 asks why pictures of children are being taken, citing trans flags and condoms on a table as inappropriate for children. Speaker 1 accuses Speaker 2 of touching and stepping on them. Speaker 2 says Speaker 1 is not welcome. Speaker 1 claims they are being assaulted and asks why they were hit. Speaker 2 denies violence and asks for personal space. Speaker 1 accuses them of gaslighting and asks why coffee was thrown at them while covering the event.

Speaker 0 asks Speaker 1 why they are there repeatedly. Speaker 1 explains they are there to have conversations and wear a sign about children and puberty blockers. Speaker 2 asks Speaker 1 to move for their safety due to angry people nearby. Speaker 1 questions why they should move instead of dealing with the violent individuals. Speaker 2 states they are there to keep Speaker 1 safe and suggests moving to prevent a breach of the peace. Speaker 1 argues that they are not causing the aggression. Speaker 2 insists that Speaker 1's presence is causing the breach. Speaker 1 continues to stand their ground. Speaker 2 agrees to speak to the aggressive individuals if they approach Speaker 1 again.

A transgender activist was asked to explain the premise of the movement, but they deflected and changed the subject. The speaker believes it is their right to ask this question because there are civil rights specifically for women, such as special bathrooms and sports leagues. They argue that if men are claiming the right to enter these spaces, either all special rights for women need to be abolished or the activists need to explain how these men are actually women. The speaker is not willing to abolish women's rights and believes most women in the country feel the same way.

Trans women are women, but the speaker disagrees. They argue that nobody confronts the speaker's opinion and questions why anyone would want to be close to a trans woman. The speaker insults the trans woman, saying she doesn't look or act like a woman. The trans woman defends herself, stating that many people accept and support her. The conversation becomes heated, and the speaker asks the trans woman to leave their store. The trans woman mentions that some people find the situation hurtful, but the speaker dismisses their feelings, claiming not to care at their age. They mention their service in Vietnam as a reason for their indifference.

The speaker is asked about a previous statement regarding having a gay son. The speaker deflects the question and insults the interviewer. The interviewer then brings up the speaker's comments about the trans community and asks if they will continue to address it. The speaker goes on a rant, calling the trans community an infection and expressing opposition to teaching about gender diversity. The speaker concludes by labeling the interviewer as the enemy.

The speaker discusses the issue of including trans women in the category of women. They argue that not including trans women is transphobic and offensive. The speaker believes that trans people exist and should be recognized as the gender they identify with. They express concern that excluding trans women erases their experiences and perpetuates harmful ideas. The conversation becomes heated as the speaker challenges the other person's beliefs and urges them to educate themselves on the topic. The discussion touches on the issue of rape, highlighting that trans women are also vulnerable to sexual violence.

The speakers discuss the importance of using proper pronouns and addressing transgender individuals. They argue that using incorrect pronouns undermines the argument against allowing transgender individuals in certain spaces. They mention Rachel Levine, a transgender individual in a high position, and criticize the use of gender-neutral terms like "egg carriers" to refer to women. The speakers assert their right to use factual language and express concern for the safety of women. They emphasize the need to speak out against these issues to avoid further losses.

Transgender boys benefit from free tampons in bathrooms. Speaker 1 argues that only women menstruate, based on chromosomes. Speaker 0 counters that trans men and non-binary individuals also menstruate. Speaker 1 insists that they are women dressed as men, while Speaker 0 questions the definition of a man. They debate the distinction between sex and gender, with Speaker 0 emphasizing that gender is about identity. Speaker 1 claims that those who disagree are labeled as hateful, but denies harboring hate. Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1 of being hateful towards transgender men. The conversation ends unresolved.

Speaker 0 explains that it's common to have fears based on past experiences, but it's important not to let those fears cloud our judgment. Speaker 1 expresses concern about trans women, but Speaker 0 encourages them to educate themselves and seek support from online groups. Speaker 1 argues that trans women are not women, but Speaker 0 emphasizes that being trans is not a belief system, but a fact. Speaker 0 clarifies that being trans is not a choice, just like being gay is not a choice. The conversation revolves around understanding and accepting transgender individuals.

Speaker 0 asks about the price, to which Speaker 1 responds with $69. Speaker 1 then asks about the pronouns Speaker 0 goes by. Speaker 0 questions why it matters and Speaker 1 explains they need to attend a gender queer protest. Speaker 0 asks for the protest time, but Speaker 1 gives a vague response. Speaker 0 then asks how many genders there are, and Speaker 1 estimates around 930. Speaker 0 insults Speaker 1, who doesn't care and mentions having Speaker 0's clothes. Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 1 has always lived there, and Speaker 1 explains it's their trans wife's place. Speaker 0 asks if Speaker 1 married a man, and Speaker 1 confirms it. Speaker 0 repeats the question, and Speaker 1 says it's up to interpretation.

Speaker 0 asks, "What is a woman?" Speaker 1 says they are unsure how to answer the question. Speaker 0 states that a woman is an adult human female and that men cannot become women. Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1's party of violence and erasing women, further claiming they don't respect women. Speaker 0 calls Speaker 1 a bigot, misogynist, and sexist.

The speaker asks if requiring women to undress in front of Leah Thomas and allowing Leah Thomas to undress in front of female athletes constitutes sexual harassment. The other speaker responds that students should not feel unsafe in any locker room. The first speaker then asks if it constitutes sexual harassment to force women to undress in front of biological males, to which the second speaker expresses concern about forcing women to undress in front of biological males. The first speaker further asks if requiring female swimmers to dress with Leah Thomas, who identifies as male, would constitute sexual harassment. The second speaker requests the question to be repeated and states that it is not a yes or no question for them.

Speaker 0 accuses Speaker 1 of spreading propaganda and not providing education. Speaker 1 questions if Speaker 0 will target the transgender community next. Speaker 0 interrupts Speaker 2, apologizes, and insults Speaker 1's understanding of the topic. Speaker 1 points out Speaker 0's lack of knowledge.