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Speaker 0 expresses a view that the government is full of liars, accusing both sides of the political spectrum of dishonesty. The conversation then shifts to a provocative claim: "They insisted Hitler was bad and he was not. You don't think Hitler was bad? No. Not at all. There was no holocaust." This remark represents a stark reversal of widely accepted historical consensus, asserting that there was no Holocaust. The speaker describes a surprising personal justification for this belief, saying, "I've I've seen evidence. I my aunt Georgie was in a prison camp and she told me about it and there was no torture, there was no killing." The claim places emphasis on the anecdote of the speaker’s aunt, Georgie, who allegedly was "in a prison camp" and told the speaker about it, specifically asserting that "there was no torture" and "there was no murder." The speaker then elaborates that the aunt was "a Jew in in Germany," which adds a personal and ethnic dimension to the claim, suggesting that a Jewish person in Germany would have firsthand experience of the camp. In continuing, the speaker reiterates the assertion: "There was no torture. There was no murder." The description of the alleged camp life offered by the aunt includes contrasting details such as "films," "an orchestra," "movies," and "a soccer team," painting a picture of a benign environment within the context of a Nazi-prison setting. A further provocative assertion is included: "A Jew started the SS." This statement is presented as part of the aunt’s account or the speaker’s interpretation of the camp’s history, introducing a controversial claim about the origins of the Schutzstaffel. Overall, the speaker challenges the widely accepted historical record by claiming that Hitler was not bad, that there was no Holocaust, and that the aunt’s testimony describes a benign camp life with cultural and recreational elements, culminating in the assertion that a Jew started the SS. The dialogue thus presents a sequence of controversial statements grounded in the speaker’s belief based on an account from their aunt Georgie.

The defense lawyer for Ernst Zundel challenged Holocaust expert Dr. Raul Hilberg's testimony, questioning his belief that Adolf Hitler personally ordered the extermination of Jews. Hilberg stated Hitler's order was verbal, with the wording unknown, calling it a gap in history. The defense lawyer questioned Hilberg's reliance on a former SS officer's claims, some of which the lawyer deemed incredible, such as Hitler witnessing gassings and 25,000,000 Jews being killed. Hilberg admitted omitting these points from his book. Hilberg also stated that there is no single report about gas chambers. He said he couldn't swear there's correspondence to prove it.

A former German army officer testified for the defense, stating he arrived at Auschwitz in 1944 and only learned of mass Jewish deaths after the war. He claimed the camp was clean and described it as a happy work environment where he studied synthetic rubber production. According to him, there was no smell of burning flesh or evidence of gas chambers.

Defense lawyer challenges Holocaust expert's testimony on Hitler's involvement in extermination orders. Expert admits lack of concrete evidence for gas chambers in concentration camps. Questions raised about credibility of sources in expert's book on Jewish deaths during WWII. No definitive proof of gas chamber existence found in reports.

During the trial of Ernst Zundel, the defense lawyer challenged Holocaust expert Dr. Raul Hilberg's testimony, questioning his belief that Adolf Hitler personally ordered the extermination of Jews. Hilberg stated Hitler's order was verbal, with the exact wording unknown, calling it a gap in history. The defense lawyer questioned Hilberg's reliance on a former SS officer's claims, some of which were omitted from Hilberg's book due to their incredibility, such as Hitler witnessing gassings and the claim that 25,000,000 Jews were killed. Hilberg admitted there is no single report proving the existence of gas chambers in Nazi concentration camps, nor correspondence to prove it.

An investigator examined facilities expecting to find gas execution chambers, but determined they were incapable of using hydrogen cyanide gas for executions. A supervisor confirmed that ceiling holes were rebuilt after the war. Some people deny the Holocaust and perpetuate intolerance, racism, antisemitism, homophobia, xenophobia, and sexism. Holocaust denial is comparable to believing the federal government was involved in 9/11. Denying the Holocaust is baseless, ignorant, and hateful. The speaker believes that Jews were slaughtered in gas chambers, and these are facts, not opinions to be debated.

I went to Poland to inspect the gas chambers, expecting to find evidence of gas executions. To my surprise, I found nothing at Auschwitz, Birkenau, and Majdanek. I had believed in their existence for over 40 years, but now I can't accept what isn't there. Despite numerous eyewitness accounts, I was disheartened to discover that the facilities I expected to see do not exist. There are no films or documentation supporting the claims of gas execution chambers. It's hard to reconcile this with what I've been taught.

"Israel is in a fight for their lives." "I am tired of the word genocide." "If Israel wanted to commit genocide, they could. They have the capability to do that. They choose not to." "Hamas, they would commit genocide in thirty seconds. They just can't." "Israel is our friend. They're the most reliable friend we have in the Mideast." "A word of warning, if America pulls the plug on Israel, God will pull the plug on us." "October 7 was an effort to destroy the state of Israel, the largest loss of Jewish life since the holocaust, and here we are almost two years later and Israel's the bad guy." "Israel's the bad guy." "The bad guys are the radical Islamists who would kill everybody in this room if they could."

Now let me make quite plain so there's no misunderstandings. I'm not challenging the holocaust. I'm not challenging any of the central core stories of the of the holocaust. There was a huge tragedy of some kind or other. I do challenge however the version which had been so glibly presented that Adolf Hitler himself ordered it.

"Hitler claims in his book that the Jews are communists." "They made the Russian revolution." "They killed their 30,000,000 Russians, all the intelligent ones, in a cruel and horrific way." "And that's their plan for the entire world. The next country in line is Germany." "If we don't defeat them now, they will eliminate us, and they will slaughter another 20,000,000, all the intelligent people." "The Russian revolution was made by the Jews." "The Russian army was built by Trotsky, who was an incredible genius and antisemite like no other." "Who founded the KGB? Jews." "The Jews destroyed religion and faith." "Out of nine large German newspapers, seven were owned by Jews." "Now you understand why they don't teach it in schools?" "Because who writes the curriculum? Those same leftists." "They spread in Germany the heresy in God." "I feel like the messenger of God to exterminate the Jews because they don't believe in him."

The speaker questions the claim that six million Jews perished in German concentration camps during World War II. They cite gas chamber doors that allegedly didn't lock, some made of wood with glass windows, arguing they weren't airtight and would have harmed the guards. They mention Fred Lukter's analysis of Auschwitz gas chamber walls, which supposedly found no cyanide residue. The speaker highlights the existence of soccer teams, a theater, sewing rooms, and swimming pools in the camps, questioning why these would exist if extermination was the goal. A 1944 International Red Cross report allegedly found no evidence of extermination installations at Auschwitz. The speaker claims Jewish population records before and after the war show no significant change. They state that autopsies on 270,000 bodies found the cause of death was typhus and starvation, not poison gas. They allege some cremation smokestacks had no soot and one chimney wasn't connected to the building. The speaker concludes that evidence was manipulated for propaganda and that questioning the Holocaust is taboo because the narrative falls apart under scrutiny.

Ernst Zindel denies the Holocaust, claiming it's anti-German bias. He believes the high death toll in camps was due to typhus, not gas chambers. Zindel criticizes the Nuremberg trials and calls the Holocaust war propaganda. He argues for seeking the truth to avoid being mental slaves.

The speaker, a well-known author, discusses his shift from believing in the Holocaust to considering it a hoax. He reveals uncovering evidence in British archives suggesting the gas chamber story was a propaganda campaign by the Allies. Documents show the British Psychological Warfare Executive initiated the gas chamber narrative to divert attention from Soviet war crimes. The chairman of the Joint Intelligence Committee expressed concerns about the lie being exposed in 1944. The speaker questions the truth of Auschwitz and other atrocities, emphasizing the ongoing impact of wartime propaganda. Translation: The speaker, a famous author, talks about changing his beliefs from the Holocaust to a hoax. Evidence from British archives suggests the gas chamber story was Allied propaganda to cover up Soviet war crimes. The chairman of the Joint Intelligence Committee expressed worries about the lie being exposed in 1944. The speaker doubts the truth of Auschwitz and other atrocities, highlighting the lasting effects of wartime propaganda.

Speaker 0 urges historical perspective, noting the wartime Soviet alliance and that their anti-Nazi propaganda was accepted by the Allies; as victors, the Soviets "got to commit their propaganda to the history books as fact." He says current knowledge of Stalin's despotism and the KGB's deception, and the camps Majdanek, Belzec, Kelno, Treblinka, and Sobibor, have required relying on Soviet sources. "I believe in the inarguable fact that 6,000,000 Jews were killed in the war by Adolf Hitler and Nazis." He asks Speaker 2 if he believes that figure. Speaker 2 replies, "But I don't think 6,000,000 Jews were gassed. Now be careful. I I beg of you. This is against the law in Germany. If there was a German somebody that's in German state, you could have me thrown into prison before I leave Germany."

Speaker 0 states that there is not the slightest evidence Adolf Hitler knew what was happening to the Jews, to the Holocaust, or to Auschwitz. He says he has offered £1,000 English money, 2,000 Canadian dollars, since 1977 and over the last nine years in television programs and worldwide media, to anyone who can find one wartime document showing that Hitler even knew about Auschwitz or about what was going on in the Eastern Front. He asserts that nobody can find such a document, and that historians hesitate, look at each other, and ask if someone else has the proof. He recounts that Jekyll says no, Hilgeruber says no, Jakobson says perhaps Bouchard has it, and Bouchard says he thought Jekyll had it, so they go around in circles. Because they cannot prove they have the evidence, they turn on he (Irving), accusing him of fascism and discrediting him, claiming nobody should believe him. He then says he has come up in the archives with a whole string of documents that meet his criteria—genuine documents written by people in positions to know, created not for any exterior or ulterior motive. He describes these as a narrow file of documents showing Hitler deliberately, explicitly linked to the Holocaust as we can say, or linked to the fate of the Jews, that great tragedy. He asserts that all these documents show Hitler intervening to stop anything nasty happening to the Jews. The core claims are: (1) there is no wartime document proving Hitler knew about Auschwitz or the Holocaust; (2) his ongoing public challenge and financial offer to discover such a document; (3) the existence of a verified set of documents written by insiders, allegedly showing Hitler intervening to prevent harm to the Jews, and explicitly linking Hitler to the Holocaust in his actions.

Bishop Williamson, are these your words? You claim that no Jews were killed in gas chambers and that the Holocaust is a lie. Yes, I believe the evidence strongly contradicts the claim that six million Jews were deliberately gassed. I think there were no gas chambers. Historical revisionists suggest that around 200,000 to 300,000 Jews died in concentration camps, but not from gassing. Fred Leuchter, an expert on gas chambers, concluded that the supposed gas chambers could not have functioned as claimed. He pointed out the lack of necessary safety features, like high chimneys, and the doors were not airtight. This is not antisemitism; it’s about historical truth based on evidence. Germany has paid significant reparations due to guilt over the Holocaust, but I don’t believe six million were gassed. I must caution you, discussing this could lead to legal issues in Germany.

I defend my ethnic group and country against the propaganda from World War II, which I see as an extortion racket against the German people, benefiting Zionists financially. This ties into the discussion about the Anne Frank diary. A German forensic examination in 1980 revealed that parts of the diary were written in ballpoint pen ink, which was only available after 1951, suggesting either Anne Frank was alive then or she didn’t write the diary. Regarding the claim of six million Jewish deaths, it's easy to disprove since there weren't that many Jews in Nazi-occupied areas. The West German government pays reparations, but it was established by the Allied forces and lacks legitimacy, as it was handpicked and suppressed opposition parties.

"I was in DACA for seventeen months after the war as a US department attorney and can state that there was no gas chamber in Dachau, nor was there a gas chamber at any of the other concentration camps in Germany." "no document has been found that proves that a plan for Jewish extermination by the third Reich was ever contemplated. Expulsion, yes, but extermination, no." "The Holocaust narrative is used to strengthen Jewish identity simultaneously as undermining, demonizing, and delegitimizing white European identity." "The Holocaust narrative is primarily used to discourage policies such as nationalism and instead promote globalism and multiculturalism in the Western world." "Any criticism against the Jews or the Jewish State of Israel had practically been outlawed." "The mere fact that Holocaust denial laws in Europe exist should raise an eyebrow." "Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression."

Defense witness Ditleid Felderrer compared himself to Voltaire, defending free speech. He visited Auschwitz 27 times, claiming to find amenities like a swimming pool, banquet room, sauna, and dance hall. He called a crematorium a Hollywood set. Ernst Zindel used Felderer's research in his work. During cross-examination, Felderer read from leaflets mocking the Holocaust and gas chambers, for which he faced prosecution in Sweden. Translation: Defense witness Ditleid Felderrer compared himself to Voltaire, defending free speech. He visited Auschwitz 27 times, claiming to find amenities like a swimming pool, banquet room, sauna, and dance hall. He called a crematorium a Hollywood set. Ernst Zindel used Felderer's research in his work. During cross-examination, Felderer read from leaflets mocking the Holocaust and gas chambers, for which he faced prosecution in Sweden.

"In 1943, the communists will use the word Nazis, fascist, and antisemitic in order to push the public mind to make them believe something by using repetition." "Germany was arresting all the bankers because they were charging so much interest that they were destroying the country." "60,000,000 Germans died." "after World War two, all these generals in America actually realized they fought the wrong enemy. The enemy is within." "Even general Patton said we should have fought with the fascist against the communist, otherwise, our country will degrade." "There's also another part that was left out of the story." "Yes."

The speaker claims that no one in Germany knows where the alleged 6 million Jews were killed. After five years of questioning various German institutions, including Jewish centers and judges, about the location of the Holocaust and receiving no answers, the speaker wrote to the Minister of Justice requesting an open discussion. Receiving no response, the speaker concluded the Holocaust did not exist and published this conclusion online. The speaker believes that those imprisoned for Holocaust denial in Germany should be exonerated, as they were speaking the truth. The speaker highlights the large number of trials related to Holocaust denial in Germany, alleging that judges avoid engaging with evidence due to fear of Jewish reprisal, instead relying on the claim that the Holocaust is "obvious." The speaker equates their inquiries with the principle of press freedom.

I defend my ethnic group and native country against what I see as a massive, lingering propaganda lie from World War II. I view it as an extortion racket against the German people, hugely profitable for Zionists, cloaked in humanity. Relating to the Anne Frank diary, a German forensic report from 1980 tested diary sheets and found ballpoint pen ink, which only came into use in 1951. This suggests the writer was alive then, questioning Anne's authorship or death date. Regarding the claim that 6,000,000 Jews died, it's easily disproven because there weren't 6,000,000 Jews in Nazi-occupied areas. Concentration camps existed, but the West German government's reparations don't validate the claim because it was installed by Allied occupying authorities and lacked genuine opposition.

“Say, it is also totally wrong to call that gas chamber a fake. It's a reconstruction.” “If mister Irving doesn't know the difference between a reconstruction and a fake, then he shouldn't call himself a historian.” “That is what I would call a fake.” “And if they haven't had the honesty to write in big letters above the door, what you are seeing is just a reconstruction on the basis of eyewitness testimony, then that is a fake.” “And I find $22,000 for pointing this fact out because it's an embarrassment.” “The embarrassment is, of course, why do they show the school children the fake building here when allegedly there were genuine gas chamber ruling just down the road three or four miles away?” “The psychological warfare executive were behind the entire gas chamber story.” “We've had a good run for our money with this gas chamber lie, but really we've got to be careful because eventually it's going to be exposed and then our entire psychological warfare effort will be brought down with it.” “And here we are in 1988, and that hare is still running.”

The transcript presents an extensive compilation of claims from a group of speakers arguing that the established Holocaust narrative is false or exaggerated and that many historical incidents have been misrepresented or fabricated by Allied propaganda, Soviet influence, and Jewish-led organizations. The speakers frame Holocaust revisionism as a legitimate scholarly effort rather than denial, asserting that revisionists do not dispute that Jews and others suffered and died in the war, but dispute the scale, methods, and specifics of extermination. Key asserted points and claims - Holocaust definition and revisionism - The Holocaust is described as a belief that 6,000,000 Jews were murdered primarily by gassing in “shower rooms,” a narrative the speakers say is amplified by Hollywood, media, and schools. A growing movement of scientists, historians, engineers, journalists, and free-speech activists is portrayed as revisionist, though often branded as “Holocaust deniers” to discourage discourse. Revisionists are said not to deny persecution, deprivation of civil rights, deportation, internment, forced labor, or deaths in camps and ghettos, including deaths from disease; they also say that many victims died in ways other than genocide and that many victims’ dignity is not denied. - Internment and civilian camps in the United States - After Pearl Harbor, over 100,000 people of Japanese descent on the Pacific Coast were interned by Executive Order 9066; the text claims this restricted freedoms, required identity cards, and denied compensation or war reparations. The narrative includes accounts of interned individuals describing camp life, guard presence, and harsh conditions. - General wartime devastation and context - The war is described as a conflict that would not have occurred if “international jury” had not declared war on Germany in 1933, with emphasis on typhus, subversion, and crowded camps as drivers of disease and death. The speakers stress that millions died across battlefields, ships, and cities, and that propaganda surrounding German crimes obscures Allied or Soviet misdeeds. - Claims about typhus, gas chambers, and cremation - Typhus epidemics are said to explain many deaths in camps; Cyclone B (hydrogen cyanide) is claimed to have been used for delousing and pest control rather than execution, with several speakers arguing that gas chambers as homicidal devices did not exist or were technically infeasible. They assert there is no scientific proof of gassing, no German documents proving extermination plans, and that cremation and delousing procedures served health purposes rather than execution purposes. - Expert testimonies and forensics are cited (e.g., Leuchter, Rudolf, Lift, Lindsay) to support the claim that the gas chambers could not have functioned as execution facilities, noting technical impossibilities such as lack of explosion-proof features, gasketed doors, or proper gas delivery systems. - Specific camp narratives and testimonies - The camps are described as having been centers of labor, medical care, and even cultural activity, with accounts of weddings, births, nurseries, orchestras, libraries, theater performances, and recreational activities. Some testimonies describe attempts to maintain humanity and morale under harsh conditions, including a piano in Block 1, children’s art, and soccer games. - Several testimonies challenge the image of mass exterminations, claiming instead that most deaths resulted from disease, starvation, and Allied bombing, and that Red Cross and Vatican inquiries found no evidence of homicidal gas chambers. - A number of survivor testimonials are presented as quotations or paraphrases challenging the notion of mass murder in gas chambers, with some individuals denying personal knowledge of gas chambers or mass killings. - Documentary, legal, and scholarly disputes - The Institute for Historical Review (IHR) and other revisionist scholars are described as measuring and challenging the established narrative, sometimes facing legal or financial pressure. The transcript cites various researchers and forensics teams (e.g., Leuchter, Krakov, Farison, Groff, Farison, Larsson) as having concluded that homicidal gassings were not technically feasible in the cited facilities. - It is claimed that many postwar figures and witnesses provided testimonies or stories later recognized as unreliable or fabricated, including famous Holocaust survivors whose accounts are presented as inconsistent or false. Names and cases (e.g., Herman Rosenblatt, Anne Frank, Elie Wiesel) are invoked to illustrate alleged fraud or manipulation, though these claims contradict well-established historical records. - Propaganda, media, and the so-called “Holocaust industry” - The text asserts that the Holocaust narrative is used as a tool to enforce globalist policy, promote multiculturalism, and suppress nationalist sentiments among white Europeans. It claims that ongoing denazification efforts, legal penalties for questioning the Holocaust, and control over media and online platforms are designed to suppress dissent and promote a one-sided portrayal. - There is a claim that “atrocity propaganda” and black propaganda have been used to shape public perception, with references to Sefton Delmer and Allied psychological warfare, and accusations that postwar trials and media representations were heavily biased or manipulated. - Population counts, mortality figures, and documentary evidence - Several sections contest the veracity of the commonly cited death tolls, the reliability of Red Cross and other international communications, and the authenticity of diaries and eyewitness testimonies. The transcript asserts that the Nuremberg trials did not use physical or technical evidence to establish gas chamber existence and that some documents used as proof were mistranslated or contextualized wrongly. - The piece repeatedly emphasizes that millions of Jews did not die in the camps, that the “6,000,000” figure is a symbolic or religious number, and that high-profile Holocaust narratives are part of a constructed orthodoxy. - Final framing - The speakers position Holocaust revisionism as a defense of free speech and historical inquiry, arguing that questioning the official narrative is essential to truth. They claim laws against denial suppress inquiry and that truth should stand on its own merits without legal protection. They also suggest that conflicting accounts, forged documents, and political agendas have shaped the popular memory of World War II. Note on structure and tone - The transcript interweaves personal testimonials, expert opinions, documentary references, and polemical assertions. It repeatedly contrasts “revisionists” with conventional accounts, often asserting that mainstream portrayals are driven by propaganda, financial interests, or political goals. The overall thrust is to challenge the conventional understanding of the Holocaust, question the evidentiary basis for extermination claims, and highlight alleged inconsistencies in survivor narratives and official records.

Did six million j really perished in World War two German concentration camps? Or is that number just a little bit exaggerated? The latches can be opened from the inside or the outside, as I am showing right here. You cannot lock somebody into this room. They couldn't lock them in, and some gas chamber doors were made with wooden doors. Wooden doors to gas chambers? Come on. It's not airtight. He found no cyanide residue at all. The Auschwitz exhibit is a fake, pure and simple. Why would they have soccer and swimming pools to people they're about to exterminate? Not a single person died of poison gas.