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Speaker 0 argues we are at the cusp of a new age and will achieve the expansion of peace, stating that together we can lead this and become not a secondary power, but a primary power in the advance of humanity. Speaker 1 emphasizes living in a time of miracles and unprecedented opportunities, and identifies the challenge as leveraging Israel's successes into our successes and victories here because we are one people. They say Israel's weakness is ours and Israel's strength is ours, and that now Israel has turned the entire geopolitical situation on its head, so the diaspora must leverage those wins and win here. Speaker 2 notes, in response, to skip Miami and go straight to Israel if leaving New York. They describe an Israeli economy undergoing a transformation, not only high-tech-led but with a built finance sector. They mention new tax laws and regulatory relaxation, with hedge funds set up in Israel in Q1 so Israel can become another capital of finance, potentially beating London within a short decade. They describe Israel as a gateway to the world: New York as a gateway to America, Hong Kong to China, Dubai to Southeast Asia, and IMEC running through Israel, with opportunities being limitless. They forecast building a trillion-dollar economy over the next decade and present a choice: stay in New York in a declining empire or come to Israel, which is part of the rising middle of the world moving south and east. Speaker 3 recalls a mission to bring a million immigrants to Israel, stating the need for those million olim to maintain Israel’s demographic balance, noting that the Soviet Jews who came saved the country and that it is necessary to save the country again. Speaker 4 reflects on the transformation of the American Jewish condition over the past two years and the anxiety over rising antisemitism. They contend that the only serious answer is to believe again that being Jewish is the most important thing in the world and in our lives, arguing that American society allowed Jews to live normal lives for decades, which was a pleasant holiday from destiny, but the holiday is over. They urge not lamenting fate but heeding the summons, shedding Jewish stars or wearing them with purpose, and embracing the truth that the Jewish people are not normal, never really were. They call for a great Jewish awakening to continue in strength.

Israel will remain in the Missouri corridor and eventually expand to all of Gaza, turning it into a resort with golf courses and beachside communities. The speaker believes people will prefer this over Tel Aviv.

Speaker 0: There is a spirit abroad in Israel, which people have not seen before, a spirit among younger people. They will not be diverted from defeating the enemy. It is no longer enough simply to what was called mowing the lawn, to keep the enemy down on the basis that they're always going to be there and we're always going to fight them. No. Enough. We will now fight to defeat the enemy because we know that only defeating the enemy is what we should be doing. And there's been a realization there's been a realization that this idea of mowing the lawn, this idea of not going too far, this idea of doing what the world expects us to do, that is galut mentality, that is diaspora mentality, that is trying to please and appease the world, but the world we now understand from what we're being living through and are still living through. The world cannot be appeased. It has to be fought. It has been described, and I think most wonderfully, as a move from Talmud to Tanakh, by which I mean this. The Talmud, that collection of rabbinical ordinances which justifiably can be said to have kept Israel kept the Jewish people alive since their exile from the land of Israel, is very much a diaspora mentality. It is a mentality which looks inward, which says we are up against a world which hates us, we have to protect ourselves. The Tanakh is full of stories of the Jewish people of antiquity fighting, fighting real battles, killing real people in defense of their nation and their people and their faith, and that is what has to be done. And I see that what we are seeing now in this war that has been fought is the resurrection of the Tanakh Jew, the return of the heroic Davidic warrior, strength not weakness.

The speaker suggests that the entire Gaza Strip should be planted with Jewish settlers and that the Arabs currently living there will eventually leave and go to other countries. They mention organizing meetings with various organizations focused on resettling Gaza. When asked about how to make the Arabs leave, the speaker hesitates but emphasizes that their main concern is the future of the Jewish nation and Israel. They also mention that creating a humanitarian problem in Gaza would force other countries to absorb the Arab refugees, similar to how they absorbed refugees from Syria.

Speaker 0: So what do you think about the use of artificial intelligence or Lavender by the IDF in identifying Hamas targets? And secondly, do you agree with Elon Musk about that the population decline is a risk for humanity? Speaker 1: Look, I again, I'm not I'm not, you know, with without without going into all the you know, I I'm I'm not on top of all the details of what's going on in Israel because my my bias is to defer to Israel. It's it's not for us to to second guess every everything. And I I believe that broadly the IDF gets to decide what it wants to do and that they're broadly in the right. And that's that's sort of the the perspective I come back to and

Speaker 0: 5,000,000 Jews in Israel and 5,000,000 Jews in America cannot defeat 1,300,000,000 Muslims. But if the Christians are with us, maybe we have a fighting chance. It’s very unpalatable for Jews to love the Christians or to understand even if we don’t love the Christians that we should let the Christians help us. We should let the Christians help us. Speaker 1: What’s going on in the world today? There’s a very big divide. The 70 nations are really 35 and 35, and 35 are controlled by Edom, the Western world (what many consider America), and 35 are controlled by Ishmael, the Arab Muslim world. That world history is coming down to the two powers, the Western world against Ishmael. The question is, who stands last in that great war, which is also called Goy Gomagog. Right now, we are undergoing two simultaneous Golusim, Edom and Yeshma’am. We know that the two nations that will last till Mashiach comes is Rome and Yeshma’am. These are the only two nations that will exist until Mashiach comes. And, we wanna know who’s gonna be the last man standing, Asaph or Ishmael? By the way, my message to both of them is we wish both of them to wipe each other out. And, we all feel very comfortable here in the Western world. Yeah. You know, America will protect us and America will conquer Yeshmaul and then Mashiach will come. But, whatever it is, we wish both sides wiping out the other party. Speaker 2: There’s a battle between Edom and Ishmael. And until the end of days, these two forces will counterbalance. But what’s the greatest danger in the world? The greatest danger is if Eisov and Ishmael ever came together, if they ever united, they would destroy the world. You can never mix and together. When and come together, they destroy the world. Esau and Ishmael two times in history, and those were the two most dangerous moments in the collective history of a Jewish program. When Edom and Ishmael come together, Speaker 3: it brings destruction to the world. Speaker 1: If you wanna know, what would the world look like if the Western world and Ishmael ever got together? Auschwitz.

The discussion opens with Speaker 0 noting that the first foreign visit by a New York City mayor is significant and asks where each candidate would go first. Speaker 1 (Cuomo) replies, “First visit, I would visit The Holy Land.” Speaker 2, addressing hostility and antisemitism in New York, adds, “Given the hostility and the antisemitism that has been shown in New York, I would go to Israel.” Speaker 0 then directs the question to Speaker 2 (Tilson). Tilson responds, “Yeah. I’d make my fourth trip to Israel followed by my fifth trip to Ukraine, two of our greatest allies fighting on the front lines of the global war on terror.” Speaker 0 moves to Speaker 3 (Mamdani), who says, “I would stay in New York City. My plans are to address New Yorkers across the five boroughs and focus on that.” Speaker 4 interjects with a follow-up to Mamdani: “Mister Mamdani, can I just jump in? Would you visit Israel… as mayor?” Mamdani answers that as mayor, “I'll be doing as the mayor, I'll be standing up for Jewish New Yorkers, I'll be meeting them wherever they are across the five boroughs, whether that's in their synagogues and temples or at their homes or at the subway platform because, ultimately, we need to focus on delivering on their concerns.” The conversation then covers a direct question: “And just yes or no, do you believe in a Jewish state of Israel?” Mamdani replies, “I believe Israel has the right to exist.” Speaker 4 counters, “Not Israel. State?” Mamdani responds, “Notice. As a state with equal rights.” Speaker 1 presses Mamdani further, noting, “He won't he won't say it has a right to exist. Does a Jewish state be very clear?” Speaker 2 adds, “Answer was no. He won't visit Israel.” Mamdani claims, “I I said that That's what he was trying to say. No. Unlike you, I answered unlike you, I answered the question directly. Alright.” The conversation then shifts to Speaker 5, who shares a personal rationale: “My my goal would be to take my first trip to Israel. My wife's life work in this area means a lot to our family, and it could coincide with my young son, Miles, bar mitzvah, if you'd like to have his bar mitzvah.” Speaker 2 interjects briefly, “Okay. But” before the excerpt ends.

The speaker states that the army acts in a more moral fashion than the world. When asked how many Palestinians he has killed, he replies he doesn't count. He finds the removal of Gaza and the topic in general to be funny. He believes most people are racist. He states that only America can help Israel, needing their support, protection in the UN Security Council, and assistance in the Hague. He thanks President Biden and the people in Congress for their support. He believes when Israel wins, the entire civilized world wins. He mentions people are looking for a baby.

We have a generational issue with young people supporting Israel less. We need to address this quickly. The divide is not left vs. right but young vs. old. The language used by activists has shifted towards Iranian propaganda. We must act fast to counter this trend.

Speaker 1 treats the period starting 10/07/2023 as possibly the biggest turning point in Jewish history, perhaps the greatest since the fall of the temple. He notes Judaism has survived numerous catastrophes, but this could be a spiritual catastrophe for Judaism itself. He warns that events in Israel could destroy two thousand years of Jewish thinking, culture, and existence. He highlights a worst-case scenario of an ethnic cleansing campaign in Gaza and the West Bank resulting in the expulsion of 2,000,000 Palestinians. He argues this would accompany the establishment of Greater Israel, the disintegration of Israeli democracy, and a new Israel based on an ideology of Jewish supremacy and on anti-Jewish values. He portrays a country worshiping power and violence, militarily strong and economically viable, and concludes that no Jew anywhere will be able to deny this would be the real Judaism.

DNA tests are allegedly prohibited in Israel because they would reveal that virtually no Ashkenazi Jews are Semitic or have ancestral connection to Palestine. The speaker claims to have met Chinese, Vietnamese, and African Jews, none of whom are native to Palestine. The speaker states that some Ashkenazi Jews are entirely European in their DNA. The speaker recounts being assaulted by a BBC manager who had recently converted to Judaism. The speaker believes that converting to Judaism does not give someone the right to displace Palestinians.

Speaker 0 believes America was founded on Judeo-Christian values and Israel on Father Abraham. It's important to educate future generations about this foundation, preaching, teaching, and researching it. Speaker 1 notes that people assume current trends will continue, questioning if the younger generation in Israel will fight for their country. However, they fought like lions, as the Bible says. Similarly, some worry about waning Christian support for Israel and commitment to traditional American values. Speaker 1 believes a change is happening with people seeking spiritual content and returning to religion. When they seek the wellsprings of civilization, they'll return to their roots in the land at the edge of Asia and the Mediterranean.

Two, they're gonna try to ethnically cleanse Gaza. They're talking about basically removing 2,500,000 people from there.

Ehud: I don’t disagree with anything you said, and I don’t know who he trusts on these kinds of… Who the president really trusts. McDonough? The young guy. But he doesn’t—there was a Samantha Power—Power. No. The difference between who he trusts and who he likes. Larry Turner? She’s an idiot. I noticed that Obama listens to her. His door telephone is always open for her. He listens to her. He believes her instincts about politics, about who is against him, who is for him, what’s going around, who is hooking what from Chicago to the world. Ehud: But it’s like, do you think Richard Nixon ultimately cared what he listened to, what B. D. Luloso thought? Ehud: Listen to this: B. B. Robozo—Robozo was some kind of business, semi-corrupt business guy who was Richard Nixon’s best friend. And whenever Nixon went to Key Biscayne or California, B. B. Robozo was there. Nixon would spend a lot of time on B. B. Robozo’s boat. If B. B. Robozo wanted something, Nixon would stay. But I don’t think when Nixon was deciding what to do about open war, he was talking to B. B. Robozo. Ehud: Valerie Jarrett. So—in this regard, he’s probably alone, but he feels, compared to other leaders I happened to meet in the last decades, Obama impressed me as an extremely autonomous person. He feels good with himself, even when he’s alone in the home. I didn’t see in him what we know in Clinton or in Our Palace. There is anxiety, a need for love, for explicit expressions of love, there’s deep within their personality. I didn’t see anything of this in him. Obama: I’ve never seen that. Ehud: There’s lots of things to say. Bob Reich told me a story—Robert Reich, Secretary of Labor—he said Clinton would look at him in a cabinet meeting, and if Clinton looked annoyed or looked away, Clinton would call within two days: “How’s it going, Bob? What’s up? Is there something on your mind?” Obama wouldn’t call. He had lunch alone half the days. He didn’t schedule time to be alone. If he did some event where he spoke to a thousand people, they would give him a little rest time afterwards. He’s human, too. It’s the same: he wants to be with the people. It’s a source of strength in tough moments in politics, probably not the most effective way to mobilize people. Ehud: Another thing: President of the United States and you like to play golf. It’s a big asset. The President likes to play golf with his buddies—three guys: photographer, campaign guy, three buddies from Chicago. Most presidents played with members of Congress or business leaders; Obama is cerebral, and they gave him the nickname Black Jesus during the campaign. He has a sense of himself as not me, but he’s not like Clinton in that sense. Ehud: On Iran, the discussion turned to the possibility of surgical operations vs. broader war. The Pentagon developed subtle scalpels, more effective than ours. The goal is to delay the Iranian program by years, but the regime’s strategy is to defend its continuity, to build immunity—regime immunity—against intervention. The Iranians are like Pakistan and North Korea in wanting to avoid being toppled; they want to reach a rational capability that deters intervention. Ehud: The concern is time: for Israel, time is running out because Iran is expanding centrifuges, improving radars, and even GPS mines in the Strait of Hormuz. The regime’s calculation: they don’t have a timetable; they wait until they can secure immunity against external attempts. An election in Iran matters because it can delay or accelerate compromise, especially if the U.S. and partners are seen to be negotiating during an election year. Ehud: There was also discussion of the Arab world: Egypt is practical, not purely ideological. The leaders are practical—engineers who understand the need to feed tens of millions, to maintain tourism, the Suez Canal, and the canal economy. The argument was that US leverage matters; Europe is seen as constrained. The topic of how to engage with the moderate Sunni world to isolate Iran and support a regional security framework with the U.S., Europe, moderate Arab states, and Israel was raised. The aim would be to block fundamentalist terror, improve missile defense, and coordinate on Iran. Ehud: On Israel’s future, there was concern about a two-state approach versus a one-state reality. The Druze, Christians, and other minorities in Israel should be included, and there was advocacy for breaking the Orthodox rabbinate monopoly on marriage and conversions to Judaism to create a more open, plural society. The idea was to advance a plan that acknowledges borders, security, and regional cooperation, potentially with American guarantees. Ehud: The discussion touched on the possibility of a regional security system, with the moderate Arab world, and Israel as a focal point to manage security and block threats, which would help moderate Arab leaders justify engagement with Israel. The hope was that including the Palestinians and moving toward a regional framework would ease tensions and gain broader recognition. Ehud: The speakers reflected on the European economy: the Euro, German leadership, and the risk of “Southern Europe” becoming like Southern Italy—stable but with high unemployment and less dynamism. Germany’s role would be crucial in stabilizing Europe, but there was skepticism about rapid reforms. There was also commentary on Japan’s economic stance, with long-term bonds and potential inflation concerns; the risk of deflation versus inflation, and investor behavior in safe assets like US Treasuries. Ehud: In the financial world, there was talk about the “wall of money” entering markets, with deals in mining and private equity accelerating as rates stay low. There was speculation about who might pay for advisory services and how much compensation one could demand as a trusted adviser. Potential clients included sovereign wealth funds, private equity, and wealthy individuals who would value access to connections with prominent financiers and policymakers. Ehud: The conversation then shifted to Ehud’s post-government plans: he’s considering private equity, hedge funds, board roles, and advisory work. He discussed working with high-profile firms like Lookout (a cybersecurity firm), Palantir (Peter Thiel’s company), and Andreessen Horowitz, and he weighed the value of joining boards or advisory roles for significant compensation. There was talk of opportunities with Tony Blair and Panetta’s Foundation, and about leveraging relationships with influential figures like Petraeus and Panetta for strategic advisory roles. Ehud: The two discussed a potential collaboration involving a security-focused venture in which they would assemble a leadership team and pitch to sovereign wealth funds. They debated whether to pursue exclusive arrangements and how to structure compensation—whether high upfront fees or performance-based bonuses would be appropriate, given the urgency of opportunities and Ehud’s age. Ehud: There was talk of a German SPV structure to unlock value in suppressed German DACs, with a plan to acquire large German companies by taking minority stakes and reorganizing boards to bypass unions and passive shareholders. They described a Luxembourg or British Virgin Islands wrapper to enable financing and governance changes, and the goal of creating a management-driven, high-return vehicle akin to Berkshire Hathaway, with operational control over large assets. Ehud: They discussed approaching sovereign funds (Singapore, UAE, China) and state-owned investors to back restructured German companies, leveraging relationships within the German business world and the French/European regulatory environment. They explored the possibility of static, long-term advisory roles with leaders in global finance and industry, and using those platforms to drive value. Ehud: They also explored private-equity opportunities in other sectors—cybersecurity, infrastructure, mining, and even defense. They discussed the possibility of working with individuals like Klaus Kleinfeld (former Siemens exec, Alcoa head) and others to place Ehud into advisory or board roles, and whether to pursue roles that could yield immediate money while also enabling longer-term influence. Ehud: The conversation closed with practical steps: define concrete opportunities, gather numbers and returns, determine what the partners want (exclusivity, timeframe), and set a deadline for offers. They agreed to pursue a formal offer by March 14-20, with a final decision by April 1. They emphasized the need for crisp, precise positioning due to Ehud’s age, and to avoid overpromising. They planned to meet again, compare offers, and decide which path to take—whether with a security-focused outfit, a financial advisory role, or a combination of both. Ehud: The sense was that there are many opportunities for people with connections and credibility, and that the next few years could see rapid development in advisory services, sovereign wealth–backed deals, and strategic investments across defense, cybersecurity, and regional security. The overarching theme was leveraging decades of experience to match high-potential opportunities with the right partners, while navigating regulatory, geopolitical, and reputational considerations.

Speaker 0: In time, Europe has not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think we're gonna be part of the throes of that transformation, which must take place. Europe is not gonna be the monolithic societies that they once were in the last century. Speaker 1: Now, I think we have a moral and political and social and economic obligation to look after refugees. You can't you have three alternatives. Leave them on the beaches. Send them back to have their throats slit in Syria, or let them walk up to the Balkans into razor wire borders, or welcome them. Those are the only alternatives. Speaker 0: Jews are gonna be at the center of that. It's a huge transformation for Europe to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role and without that transformation, Europe will not survive. Speaker 2: There are 65,000,000 displaced people in the world right now. Matthew, that number is larger than the population of The United Kingdom, and it's not getting any smaller. What we've seen here is that governments are absolutely feckless in attempting to broker peace agreements, be it Syria or anywhere else, which has created this. Speaker 3: Billionaire George Soros says he's investing $500,000,000 to start ups founded by refugees. Soros is responding to president Barack Obama's call to action initiative. That's a request for companies to help refugees and migrants. Speaker 4: And Norwegian society has a very a very short history with ethnic minorities at a scale. So there is a job to be done. So we do have rising antisemitism, and we have rising antisignism, and we have Islamophobia, and we have racism. So we have a lot to do. So we still have have a need of NGOs like the center against racism. Speaker 5: But then he dismissed out of hand what the Prime Minister is doing in relation to migration. Now, I happen to believe that people in this country don't want to pull the drawbridges up, actually. But they do want a fair system. They don't want a free fall. They don't like this sense that people can come here and take us for a ride. And the point, Evan, is this. That in other member states, they have a contributory system of social insurance. I've seen it and discussed it in different contexts. So that people are sort of working and paying their taxes and putting in before they have the right to take out. Speaker 6: The European Union was intentionally set up to give minority organizations influence on the management of Europe. Harry Truman read an article about Kalergi in 1945. He was so impressed that he adopted the Kalergi plan as US official policy as well. After 1965, the real demographic changes of European countries would be seen. Brock Schisholm, former director of the World Health Organization said, what people in all places have to do is to limit a birth rate and promote mixed marriages between different races. This aims to create a single race in the world which will be directed by a central authority. Speaker 7: Very clear that the Jews want to exterminate the European race and that the means to weakening the European race would be to dissolve all the European nations, destroy all their cultural heritage and their national traditions and replace that with the European Union and then to invite in Africans, Middle Easterners and Asians to dilute the blood of Europeans through miscegenation to the point where they became a degenerate mixed race.

Speaker 0 expresses support for Israel and the right of Israel to defend itself, but says they have to do this because they simply have no option if they are to survive as a country, and frankly, in many ways, as a race in that part of the world. Speaker 1 asks whether immigration represents a major threat to Britain from a demographic perspective, noting that in the last twenty years the white British population has declined from 87% to 74%, and asks if that is a concern. Speaker 0回答: No. No. Speaker 1 reiterates the claim of rapid demographic change, stating that the fastest and most rapid decline of the white British population ever experienced in British history has occurred in a tiny short period of time, and that majority cities that were once 90% white British are now majority ethnic minorities, citing London, Leicester, and Birmingham, and asks why this isn’t a concern of Speaker 0. Speaker 0 responds: But they're not unrecognizable as being English because of skin color. They're unrecognizable because of culture. He adds that he genuinely thinks the British are the most open minded, most accepting people.

Speaker 0 states that settlers do not plan attacks in advance and do not wake up thinking about violence because their life is good. Speaker 1 claims Speaker 0 wants Palestinians to leave, but Speaker 0 denies this. Speaker 0 says what is on their mind is how to bring more people to settle the land and develop it. Speaker 0 claims to not think in terms of Beta because they think, "I'm a Jew, I'm a settler, I'm a human being." Speaker 1 suggests Speaker 0 is thinking tribally, prioritizing their own people to the exclusion of others, which Speaker 1 calls sociopathic. Speaker 0 disagrees, stating this is normal.

The speaker argues that American Jews are wrestling with a category they inherited from our European ancestors about 250 years ago. As Jews moved into modern nation-states and pursued secular jobs and secular education, they reimagined Judaism to fit in. Judaism was transformed into something like a Protestant-style religion: a framework that worked well for a long period, enabling Jews to participate in broader society. The speaker emphasizes that Jews are not merely a religion, nor are we a race or ethnicity. Instead, Jews are a nation, civilization, tribe, peoplehood, and above all, a family. Therefore, a young person in America who thinks Judaism is simply a Protestant religion risks viewing the 7,000,000 Jews in Israel as merely co-religionists. If that is the lens, the natural question becomes: what do you owe to them? It would be like telling a mainline, very progressive Protestant in Berkeley, California that they must care about a Pentecostal in Brazil. In that framing, it doesn’t make sense, because it’s a category error. The speaker clarifies that the people in Israel are not merely co-religionists; they are siblings. The danger lies in thinking of Israel's Jewish population primarily through the lens of shared religious practice. When that happens, there is a risk of sliding into anti-Zionism, because the fundamental, personal connection to Israel—as siblings within a broader Jewish family—gets diminished or lost if Israel is reduced to a subset of co-religionists who share a particular religious outlook or social-justice framework. Key contrasts highlighted include the historical adaptation that treated Judaism as a Protestant-style religion to fit into secular, modern-state life, versus the present understanding that Jewish identity encompasses nationhood, civilization, and family ties. The speaker suggests that recognizing Israel as part of a family, not just a co-religionist community, is essential to maintaining connections that are not solely defined by theological agreement or social-justice alignment but by a broader shared Jewish peoplehood.

Ted Pike and his wife Alin argue that Israel operates the most powerful lobby in Congress through APAC, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. They claim that through this influence, Israel demands and receives nearly $5,000,000,000 annually. They assert that no elected official dares criticize Israel for fear that the Jewish lobby will accuse him of antisemitism, the kiss of death for any politician. They state that the president also knows what Israel wants and that Israel gets it; acting otherwise is political suicide. They claim the mass media, founded and controlled primarily by Jews, manipulates the spigot of information from which Heartland America drinks, and that the message is: if you criticize Israel, you are antisemitic. They warn listeners to be safe, keep their heads down, or they are fair game for being knocked off by the Zionist shooting gallery. Speaker 1 adds that as a result, our president and elected officials are slaves to political correctness when it comes to Jews and Israel. They cannot seriously criticize Israel, especially as the source of Mideast strike and terrorism. They cannot suggest an end of aid to Israel. They cannot even protest Zionist control of Congress.

Approach thinking about maximally Christian committed state in a world in which your the partners for getting there, you know, quite a few of them are not gonna be Christian. I would say briefly that that Jews in this ideal republic that I would envision or that we'd hammer out, Jews would be more welcome than they currently are here.

But if you if you were to say, how does Israel solve this problem forever in the future? I think that if you leave a scrap of Palestinian DNA Wait. Can I ask you real quick? If we destroy all of Gaza, what is the loss to the world? I didn't say that there's a loss to the world. I don't really think that the Palestinians provide Wait. Time out. If Israel did eliminate 2,300,000 Gazans. Right? Let's say it took them even a long time, short time, whatever. They just completely eliminate, wipe them all out. This would cause a response by the Arab countries. There would 100% cause a response by the Arab countries. They would thank us. But I legitimately cannot think of any

Speaker 0 explains that Netanyahu evokes Jewish history in his religious text and sentiment to rally support for attacks, and that Nurode explains this increases right-wing sentiment in Israel. Speaker 1 notes that when Netanyahu announced the offensive against Iran, he did not just discuss threats but invoked Jewish history, drawing parallels with Jews rising up against Persian enslavement more than two thousand years ago. Speaker 2 adds: “My brothers and sisters, in two days, we celebrate the holiday of Purim. Two thousand five hundred years ago in ancient Persia, an enemy rose against us with the exact same goal of destroying our people.” Speaker 1 continues: “A day later, Netanyahu invoked scripture describing the government in Tehran as Amalek, the ultimate enemy in the Old Testament, the enemy whose memory and existence must be erased.” Speaker 2: “We read in this week's Torah portions. Remember what Amalek did to you. We remember and we act.” Speaker 1 remarks that this is not the first time Netanyahu has used the Amalek reference to justify violence against an adversary. In fact, his reference to Palestinians as Amalek was cited during hearings in the genocide case against Israel at the International Court of Justice. Speaker 0 states that inciting religious fervor is not unique to Netanyahu; it’s a popular tactic among right-wing and populist leaders to rally support, and it often pays off. She cites opinion polls to illustrate how widespread these sentiments are: a Hebrew University poll on Israel’s war on Gaza found 75% of Jewish Israelis believe there are no innocence in Gaza; a survey by the Institute for National Security released last month shows 78% of Israelis consider Iran a serious threat. Speaker 1 adds that mixing scripture with mainstream politics is playing with fire and has led to talk of a greater Israel spanning from the Euphrates to the Nile River and erasing existing Arab countries in the process, an ambition referenced not only by Netanyahu but also by the head of the opposition in Israel. Speaker 0 concludes with the attribution: Jahan Bin.

Speaker 0: The discussion turns to how long you plan to stay in public life. Speaker 1: I don’t measure it by time, but by missions and tasks. I’m supported by a great majority of the people in the country, and that support comes despite foreign reporting. That is why I keep winning elections. When people say I might be a king, I respond that I’m not a king—I have to get elected, for God’s sake. I have great support at home: my wife is incredible, she’s a lioness; my two boys support me; and the people support me. Speaker 0: What do they support you for? Speaker 1: They want me to complete the quest for peace. They understand that I really liberated Israel’s economy from stagnant semi-socialism to become one of the most remarkable founts of creativity, innovation, and technology in the world. We have unbelievable technology today, and we now have an opportunity. Israel was a country with $17,000 per capita when I took over as foreign minister; I had a brief stint there. Today it’s going to cross $60,000 per capita. It’s still a way to go, but that’s a change that no country experienced because of the free market revolution that I introduced here. Speaker 0: There’s a sense of an upcoming revolution. Speaker 1: I see a much greater revolution coming. It’s here, it’s not coming; it’s already here. All the wondrous technologies we have—some of them are very frightening. I’ve talked to the leaders of AI in the world, and you ask yourself, there are so many blessings in this, but there could be a curse. The task is to challenge it, or to channel it into the blessings that Israel can give itself and the world. I think there’s another revolution coming, and I tend to steer it along with the achievement of a broader peace. These are two enormous tasks that I’d like to take on. And when history is within reach, you don’t step aside; you step forward. And that’s what I’m doing.

The speaker notes that all 50 US states are below the population replacement rate, even Utah. Iran, Italy, and South Korea are also below this rate. Israel is presented as an exception. The speaker suggests people have kids if other people have kids, and stop when others stop. In South Korea, the fertility rate is 0.7, leading to a rapid population decline. An inverted demographic pyramid, with more old than young people, may shift politics to favor benefits for the old, penalizing those with children. One demographer's thesis is that once the birth rate flips and goes below replacement level, it doesn't flip back due to political disincentives. If every woman has one baby, in approximately 990 years, there could be only one person left on the planet, leading to extinction.

Speaker 0 and Speaker 1 discuss the basis for Jewish connection to the land and who has a legitimate claim to it. Speaker 0 begins by stating that there are about 16,000,000 Jews in total worldwide, with 8,000,000 living in the area being discussed, and the remainder living mainly in New York, South Florida, and a few other places. He notes that this is a small population with historical and biblical connections to the land, and asks if such a connection exists. Speaker 1 responds that Bibi’s family lived in Eastern Europe and that there is no evidence they ever lived in the land, and that he isn’t religious. He questions whether there is a true ancestral link. Speaker 0 asks whether there is evidence of any genuine ancestral connection. Speaker 1 asks if there is a family tree for Bibi, and if not, whether anyone has one. Speaker 0 asks how they know, and Speaker 1 elaborates that the point is to establish an ancestral connection to the land. He notes that there has been a practice of Judaism and a connection to the language, suggesting that Bibi has fought for the land, and that his family has fought for it. He raises an obvious, meaningful question: where does this right come from? He explains that many people in the territory Israel controls, particularly in the West Bank, have genetic evidence of having been there for thousands of years, with many identified as Christians for two thousand years, and even if some did not practice Judaism or were Samaritan or pre-Islam, the question remains: how do they compare in terms of rights to someone whose ancestors lived in Latvia or Poland and were Jewish? He questions the basis of being “Jewish” by faith, language, or Torah. Speaker 0 challenges the question, asking how we know if Bibi’s ancestors ever lived there, and expresses confusion about what Speaker 1 is trying to determine. Speaker 1 emphasizes that a claim of rights based on ancestral presence is significant because many claims hinge on whether ancestors lived there, whether money flowed, and whether displacement occurred. He reiterates that it is not a theoretical issue like a grandparent’s distant past, but a real question of who has the right to be there. Speaker 0 remains unable to fully process Speaker 1’s point.